Listing for IDW Transformers: Lost Light Volume 3 TPB
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Thanks to online retailer Amazon.com, we have a listing for the issues of IDW Publishing's Transformers: Lost Light that follow the Mutineers Trilogy, collected as a trade paperback in volume 3 of the ongoing series!
The release date is currently set at September 18, 2018, and the current price for the pre-order is $13.07. This will go up to regular 19.99 later, so if you're in for the trade, take advantage of the discount. The book has the cover for issue #13, and as a bonus, you can also take a look at the Cyclonus-centric art by Jack Lawrence before it got coloured below!
A witty, smart, emotional take on fan-favorite Transformers characters in a sci-fi world unlike any other!
Winner of the Comixology Award for Best Ongoing Comic Series of 2017, as well as Best Writer for James Roberts!
Crammed into a dead Decepticon astropod that's ten sizes too small, the displaced crew of the Lost Light face their most serious threat yet: each other. No worries though, Rodimus can save the day! Plus, the Scavengers have never had it so good. The war is a receding memory, their patchy service records have been forgotten, and the five of them can roam the galaxy as they please. All's well that ends well? Not quite.
Collects issues #13-18.
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Posted by WreckerJack on December 31st, 2017 @ 4:18am CST
Posted by not_a_bot on December 31st, 2017 @ 5:41am CST
WreckerJack wrote:My GF pointed out Drift and Ratchet's pose looks like they are going to kiss. CANNOT UNSEE!
Well - Markerguru actually drew that once, too, so it happened.
Posted by Ironhidensh on December 31st, 2017 @ 7:52am CST
Basically, as much as I hated combiner Wars, they happened. They also established Combiner as a big freaking deal. No single Transformers, aside from a titan or Omega, should be able to handle them. The Stars Saber part really wrecked things for me. It should not have happened that he could take out Defensor so easily. It pulled me out if the story, and ruined the flow of an otherwise fast paced, action packed issue.
Posted by partholon on December 31st, 2017 @ 4:09pm CST
Lore Keeper wrote:an angry child spitefully smashing toys so we can't play with them.
Honestly, this is how all the gratuitous character deaths have been leaving me feeling lately. I applaud a story that isn't afraid to kill a character just because they're important, but it seems to become more excessive over time with these comics. Definitely feels like someone just came and smashed my Defensor and left my Optimus Maximus short one arm or leg.
im a little perturbed by that too.
roberts isnt going to be on these books forever, thats just the nature of the industry, so what state is he going to leave the IDWverse in for his sucessor ?
ive been hoping he'd be like a warren ellis- who can do some stellar stuff but still leave the main "universe" in a decent state.
more and more im starting to get the feel of a grant morison. who fuked up the x books for ages by leaving them in a right state and led to a complete reboot by joss whedon (who basically just ignored whole swathes of it and restarted from scratch).
the illusion of change is one of the hardest tricks to pull off in comics. theres a reason why the chris claremonts of the world held out on killing characters that often. sometimes its better for the book to just have someone taken out of the story in a different way.
Posted by Sagitta on January 1st, 2018 @ 7:26am CST
WreckerJack wrote:...How was Ambulon allowed to be the leg if he was dead? Either there is something they are not telling us or thats a bit of a plot hole. How can a leg be a leg if it can't move?
Well, in a back issue of one of the ongoing series (before Lost Light) they told Orion Pax's backstory. It was when the thugs sent by the Council murdered two of his officers and had Pax cornered. To aid himself Pax took the remains of one of his officers and prompted it to form into it's alt mode: a cycle.
More recently in "Lost Light" Rodimus and the others are riding around in the transformed spacecraft mode of a deceased Decepticon.
It's not out of the possible Amblulon's remains would be used in much the same way. He was designed to be a "leg" of a Decepticon combiner. Why he left the Decepticons originally.
So, Roberts is going by something established.
Posted by partholon on January 1st, 2018 @ 12:17pm CST
so there is not only precedent, its prob an outright call back.
Posted by o.supreme on January 2nd, 2018 @ 10:17am CST
Posted by Sagitta on January 2nd, 2018 @ 8:51pm CST
o.supreme wrote:^It's a similar situation with Bruticus in TAAO. Swindle was a comatose/dead bot (forget exactly which), but they still combined. I can understand how from a physical perspective. But now mentally, you are only starting out at 80% at best, plus we know that Combiners have to put in intense effort to meld mentally in the first place, having one out of commission makes it all the worse I would think.
True. But with the one being being out of commission does that make the easier for the over-all combiner to control the "dead-metal"...or harder without the additional "mental push"?
I know there was a G1 'toon episode on this: "B.O.T." but that doesn't exactly work into the equation. A different beast so to speak. Bruticus couldn't even stay connected together for any amount of time when Brawl's brain went A.W.O.L.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 3rd, 2018 @ 11:14am CST
But, I thought about this all weekend while thinking about the protectobots, and I have come up with another theory to pose:
All of this did in fact happen. And they did in fact find "cyberutopia". But here's the thing: LL9 showed that Scorponok is in this story, and he is in deep, like he is involved in the Knights stuff. Among the other things that he is involved with is the creation of new artificial cybertronians who can transform into anything and heal themselves from the dead. He also now has the magnificance, something Hot Rod/Rodimus had a starring role in back in its original storyline, and the magnificance can be used to help bring Cybertronians back from the dead.
So, Getaway finds Cyberutopia, they crew gets taken over by Scoroponok and his cronies, the dead are brought back to life, all of them. And then, when the crew of the LL that were thrown off the ship find Cyberutopia, it is defended and manned by their controlled crewmates, some of whom are back from the dead and include a Defensor using Rook again but with Ambulon replacing First Aid.
Along the way to freeing their revived dead friends and stopping Scorponok, Getaway gets hi comeuppance, finds out Skids died, and has a moment with Nautica over how Skids was her best friend but now she can't remember/care because of LL 8 and 9.
Speaking of which, that was an interesting moment when Getaway saw he wasn't Skids' best friend anymore
Posted by o.supreme on January 3rd, 2018 @ 11:26am CST
Sagitta wrote:o.supreme wrote:^It's a similar situation with Bruticus in TAAO. Swindle was a comatose/dead bot (forget exactly which), but they still combined. I can understand how from a physical perspective. But now mentally, you are only starting out at 80% at best, plus we know that Combiners have to put in intense effort to meld mentally in the first place, having one out of commission makes it all the worse I would think.
True. But with the one being being out of commission does that make the easier for the over-all combiner to control the "dead-metal"...or harder without the additional "mental push"?
I know there was a G1 'toon episode on this: "B.O.T." but that doesn't exactly work into the equation. A different beast so to speak. Bruticus couldn't even stay connected together for any amount of time when Brawl's brain went A.W.O.L.
I actually prefer the original animated continuity, but I consider its explanation of things completely separate from any comic-book universe. Defensor was able to form without First Aid at all in "The Ultimate Weapon", although without and arm he was hindered quite a bit. In the original animated series, I consider Combiners to have their own distinct personality when together, a new personality. Whereas in most comics, the *personality* that emerges from the combiner seems to be a melding of its various components, thus making it much more of a liability if one of them is missing, or dead, unconscious etc... I also like the idea established in Scramble City that a Decepticon (and presumably an Autobot as well), can sabotage a combiners ability to function by disrupting a combination sequence and forcing its way it. . Although if a new component was a willing participant (i.e. Scoop with Devastator) this would allow the combiner to resume optimum functionality. Just my two cents. I can talk about combiners all day
Posted by snavej on January 3rd, 2018 @ 2:51pm CST
Edit: What's the deal with Star Saber turning fanatic? I don't know much about him but he's supposed to be one of the central heroes of the franchise, especially in Japan. He's gone down a very different path in IDW. It's a very big leap. He seems to pop up only to ruin things for others.
If the Autobots can turn evil, we should see more Decepticons turning good. We've already had Megatron, Soundwave, Starscream and Thundercracker (maybe others: I forget). Shockwave did it too, just before he died. The Combaticons got a bit lovey-dovey. I'm waiting for the Stunticons to have a peaceful garden party with cucumber sandwiches for their many human guests!
Posted by ArmadaPrime on January 4th, 2018 @ 10:42pm CST
Even leaving aside the big debate subjects like megatron, prime, and stars team, you have it on a smaller scale with the scavengers, pyra magna, the dinobots, and loads more.
Though yes, seeing friends turn on each other can leave a bit of a sting!
Posted by X3ROhour on January 11th, 2018 @ 7:47am CST
WTF?!
WHY?!
Pick on the new guy?
y?
i love rook.
r they trying to hurt me?
f@#k!
Posted by ScottyP on January 12th, 2018 @ 4:34pm CST
CABIN FEVER! Crammed into a dead Decepticon astropod that's ten sizes too small, the displaced crew of the Lost Light face their most serious threat yet: each other. As tensions rise and tempers fray, only one Autobot is arrogant enough to think he can save the day. Enter Rodimus, expert mediator.
Check out the preview pages mirrored below, and reply to this news post to discuss the latest comics happenings with your fellow Transformers fans on our Energon Pub Forums!
Posted by Moody magpie on January 12th, 2018 @ 5:02pm CST
Posted by LE0KING on January 13th, 2018 @ 12:15am CST
Moody magpie wrote:So nice to see Alex Milne returning to the series, he has been missed.
Ah, that explains it. I was just thinking how beautiful this was. I thought maybe the new guy was stepping up his game... should have known.
Can we just give Alex a new series? Preferably written by M. Scott.
Posted by Tigertrack on January 13th, 2018 @ 7:06am CST
We see, of course.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 13th, 2018 @ 10:11am CST
Posted by Sunstar on January 13th, 2018 @ 10:43am CST
Posted by Deadput on January 13th, 2018 @ 12:31pm CST
Yay...
Posted by Va'al on January 14th, 2018 @ 4:36am CST
Featuring the return of the Scavengers, Grimlock included, we might find out where they ended up after being caught in the middle of a battle during the Mutineers' Trilogy - as (Commander) Nickel also makes an appearance. Check it out, and join the speculation-filled discussion in the Energon Pub.
MACGUFFIN QUEST! The Scavengers have never had it so good. The war is a receding memory, their patchy service records have been forgotten, and the five of them can roam the galaxy as they please. All’s well that ends well? Not quite. Because unbeknownst to Krok and Co., their next adventure… will be their last.
Posted by Va'al on January 14th, 2018 @ 4:41am CST
Posted by BATTLEMASTER IIC on January 14th, 2018 @ 6:02am CST
Posted by Sunstar on January 14th, 2018 @ 11:22am CST
Posted by Va'al on January 14th, 2018 @ 1:26pm CST
And while we're here, we also have some line art by artist Alex Milne, who is covering some of the interior artwork of issue #13 of the series, as seen in the three-page preview newsed here - and a look at the never actually seen alt-mode for Megatron in his More Than Meets the Eye redesign. Both are mirrored below!
Posted by Targetmaster Kup on January 14th, 2018 @ 1:30pm CST
Posted by Bounti76 on January 17th, 2018 @ 9:35pm CST
(W) James Roberts (A) Alex Milne (CA-Cvr B) Nick Roche (CA-RI) Brendan Cahill;
SECRETS AND LIES! As the Scavengers' journey reaches its ignoble end, the architect of their downfall puts the fate of half the Cybertronian race in their hands. Only one question remains: Are the worst Decepticons prepared to become the ONLY Decepticons?
On Cover B, Nick Roche gives us a spectacular shot of the long-absent (until recently) Scorponok, who looks all too happy to be greeting Misfire and Fulcrum.
And taking a look at the Retailer Incentive cover, done by Brendan Cahill, we see what seems to be one of the greatest mismatches of all time! Scorponok vs.....Nickel?!?
Coming sometime in the next several weeks (thanks, IDW!), do these covers whet your appetite for the Scavengers misadventures?
Posted by Bounti76 on January 17th, 2018 @ 9:55pm CST
MACGUFFIN QUEST! The Scavengers have never had it so good. The war is a receding memory, their patchy service records have been forgotten, and the five of them can roam the galaxy as they please. All's well that ends well? Not quite. Because unbeknownst to Krok and Co., their next adventure... will be their last
Posted by Deadput on January 18th, 2018 @ 12:27am CST
Ugh
Posted by Bounti76 on January 18th, 2018 @ 2:05am CST
Deadput wrote:This cover reminds me why I really hate every single thing about Nickle.
Ugh
*Nickel
Posted by Bounti76 on January 18th, 2018 @ 2:13am CST
Posted by steve2275 on January 18th, 2018 @ 2:26am CST
Posted by Targetmaster Kup on January 18th, 2018 @ 5:14am CST
Posted by snavej on January 18th, 2018 @ 6:30am CST
Posted by Va'al on January 18th, 2018 @ 6:42am CST
Targetmaster Kup wrote:That coloring on the B Covers is horrendous!
How so?
Posted by ZeroWolf on January 18th, 2018 @ 7:15am CST
As for the covers, the grimlock one is awesome and I do find the scorpoknok v Nickel cover hilarious, even if it would always be a one sided fight.
Posted by Hydrargyrus on January 18th, 2018 @ 8:23am CST
Posted by misfire19d on January 18th, 2018 @ 11:51am CST
Va'al wrote:Targetmaster Kup wrote:That coloring on the B Covers is horrendous!
How so?
How is it not horrendous?
shill
Posted by ZeroWolf on January 18th, 2018 @ 4:24pm CST
Posted by Daniel Adkins on January 18th, 2018 @ 5:01pm CST
misfire19d wrote:Va'al wrote:Targetmaster Kup wrote:That coloring on the B Covers is horrendous!
How so?
How is it not horrendous?
shill
It would help if you actually described your problems with it.
Posted by Va'al on January 19th, 2018 @ 3:23am CST
Daniel Adkins wrote:misfire19d wrote:Va'al wrote:Targetmaster Kup wrote:That coloring on the B Covers is horrendous!
How so?
How is it not horrendous?
shill
It would help if you actually described your problems with it.
Indeed! I was just asking to see if I understand the misgivings, whether I accept them or not.
Posted by Deadput on January 19th, 2018 @ 8:10am CST
ZeroWolf wrote:@Deadput what's so bad about Nickel? Please don't just answer back saying "everything", I'm genuinely curious as to why you don't like her.
Late reply but the answer is...
Everything
There is nothing I like about Nickel, I hate her personality and find it annoying as hell, I hate how she bosses the DJD and god damn Deathsaurus (Commander Nickel god kill me or actually better yet kill her), I hate how she basically ruined the DJD by being one of the first things that took away any credibility the DJD had as a threat and made them pathetic with her role being their team "mom" (Later other aditions ruined them further), I hate how she's this "cute" character similar to how far they took Tailgate (And ruined him as well).
Why the hell did she take command over Deathsaurus when she did absolutely nothing to deserve it literally nothing she's a prime example of a really bad oc.
The only thing I don't hate is her design instead I just simply don't like it since it's a "chibi" design I don't think works well.
Sorry I don't like badly written shoehorned in Robert Oc's (I only like Rung out of the "main" oc's he's introduced in MTMTE/LL the others I either hate such as Anode (Who I almost hate as much as Nickel), think are stale and boring (Nautica and Ambulon the only other ones I don't hate but I still don't find them great, Tyrest who is a generic insane bad guy among a sea of generic insane bad guys who so happen to be the only kind of character Roberts can attempt to write), have been ruined by bad writing (The DJD, Rapidfire as an example of wasted potential) or have not had enough time to be shown for me to have an opinion such as the rest of Thunderclash's and Firestar's Oc crew.
Edit: I forgot about Riptide and Fulcrum...probably because of how forgettable and bland they are.
I just irrationally hate her, every time I see or remember her my blood boils, I hate her more then any bad human in a Micheal Bay Transformers movie and is in my top 3 most hated characters in the whole franchise.
Posted by Lore Keeper on January 19th, 2018 @ 8:44am CST
Posted by Deadput on January 19th, 2018 @ 9:03am CST
Lore Keeper wrote:I agree with people that Nickel suddenly being the commander of Deathsaurus's forces comes from out of nowhere. But, I give James Roberts enough credit to expect that an explanation is forthcoming, and it will probably be delightfully humorous and interesting. Or I'm wrong and Nickel's the biggest Mary Sue ever.
Not with this series track record, it's gonna be a stupid explanation.
Posted by ZeroWolf on January 19th, 2018 @ 10:37am CST
Deadput wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:@Deadput what's so bad about Nickel? Please don't just answer back saying "everything", I'm genuinely curious as to why you don't like her.
Late reply but the answer is...
Everything
There is nothing I like about Nickel, I hate her personality and find it annoying as hell, I hate how she bosses the DJD and god damn Deathsaurus (Commander Nickel god kill me or actually better yet kill her), I hate how she basically ruined the DJD by being one of the first things that took away any credibility the DJD had as a threat and made them pathetic with her role being their team "mom" (Later other aditions ruined them further), I hate how she's this "cute" character similar to how far they took Tailgate (And ruined him as well).
Why the hell did she take command over Deathsaurus when she did absolutely nothing to deserve it literally nothing she's a prime example of a really bad oc.
The only thing I don't hate is her design instead I just simply don't like it since it's a "chibi" design I don't think works well.
Sorry I don't like badly written shoehorned in Robert Oc's (I only like Rung out of the "main" oc's he's introduced in MTMTE/LL the others I either hate such as Anode (Who I almost hate as much as Nickel), think are stale and boring (Nautica and Ambulon the only other ones I don't hate but I still don't find them great, Tyrest who is a generic insane bad guy among a sea of generic insane bad guys who so happen to be the only kind of character Roberts can attempt to write), have been ruined by bad writing (The DJD, Rapidfire as an example of wasted potential) or have not had enough time to be shown for me to have an opinion such as the rest of Thunderclash's and Firestar's Oc crew.
Edit: I forgot about Riptide and Fulcrum...probably because of how forgettable and bland they are.
I just irrationally hate her, every time I see or remember her my blood boils, I hate her more then any bad human in a Micheal Bay Transformers movie and is in my top 3 most hated characters in the whole franchise.
Thank you for replying and admitting it is irrational. See if don't find her annoying and maybe it's a sign that Roberts sense of humour isn't to everyone's tastes. I'm all for adding original character's especially more fembots and I know that people say there's still a lot of characters who were introduced in the toy lines that haven't seen any love but I think there's room for more.
Still I'm now curious as to who your other hated characters are.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 19th, 2018 @ 10:57am CST
I got my LL V1 last week and I read it, and I tolerated Lawrence's art more, but it also brought up a huge question for me: Anode. I have really disliked this character since her intro, but after issue 8 and then rereading Volume 1, there are some major issues.
Volume 1 our universe establishes her as being from Caminus. She was in the same sorority as Velocity, she was a blacksmith, she abandoned the place and left after failing to create a protoform. The same volume also had her knowing about Cybertron and Luna 2 and the Decepticons 500 years ago thanks to her leaving Caminus.
Volume 1 Functionist universe had her as being from Cybertron, still a female, still a blacksmith. But with the new functionist order, the colonies were not found. the history was altered well after the colony titans left, so that is not an issue, just that her colony would not have been found. Yet here she is a resident of Cybertron, still female.
Issue 8 then has her from Cybertron in our universe, and she traveled around a lot and decided to switch over from a he to a she.
So in short, in the space of 8 issues, she was shown to be from Caminus as a she, from Cybertron as a she, and from Cybertron as a he that became a she. Was this discrepancy ever brought up to Roberts and he answered? I'd really like to know.
Posted by ArmadaPrime on January 19th, 2018 @ 11:14am CST
As for the functionist-U anode, I'm not sure it's been directly addressed. It /could/ be that simply through talking with those who'd visited multiple-choice planets (organic or metallic), she realised what fit for her in much the same way as if she'd visited herself (as discussed in LL8), but I don't think that's been stated outright.
This is all of the top of my head, so I could well be wrong! There's a Tumblr account which collates all of Roberts' MTMTE-related answers to twitter questions, I'll see if I can find it when I get home
Posted by Daniel Adkins on January 19th, 2018 @ 2:27pm CST
Posted by Targetmaster Kup on January 19th, 2018 @ 5:33pm CST
It's looking better and better!
Posted by Ironhidensh on January 19th, 2018 @ 6:43pm CST