Legacy Wild Rider Revealed + Blitzwing Revealed to have 41 Steps from Robot to Tank Mode
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Ahead of Tuesday, CBR is giving us a preview of the toys we'll see tomorrow. Through them, Hasbro has unveiled Legacy deluxe Wild Rider and leader Blitzwing. Since they are a preview for tomorrow that means there is a really good chance we will see the rest of Legacy's second wave. The Blitzwing photos further show us that there was little to no mistransformation going on in the photos we saw earlier and the the blurb does confirm what we all know, his modes are based on the cartoon. Of course, all this may be obvious to some, but many are still struggling with the paradigm shift, mainly because Hasbro never made it clear for all and left it more for us to figure it out as they kept releasing product.
While many have called this generations line "mini mps", Hasbro designers are now using that term openly when presenting and we are seeing what that truly means. Remember, the MP line does not have a strict correlation between price and size, where MP Bumblebee and MP Skids are similarly priced while one is much smaller than the other (one being deluxe sized and the other being voyager sized) and two bots of the same size can have a price difference of over one hundred dollars. None of us question that, but bringing that same logic into a toyline with defined price points, like the generations line, means that toys which have the same height could (and do) end up at different price points. Plus you add the notion of a unified scale, like the MP line, and more focus on animation accuracy than any Generations line in the past. Blitzwing is an emblem of this paradigm shift where he truly is a mini MP in that sense. We would not have questioned such slavish G1 accuracy to the point of detriment (according to some) on an MP figure and Hasbro is applying that same logic to this generations version.
Here are the images followed by the product info:
Hasbro has provided CBR with an exclusive first look at the Transformers: Generations Legacy Deluxe Decepticon Wild Rider and the Transformers: Generations Legacy Leader Blitzwing figures ahead of their wide reveal tomorrow, Tuesday, April 12. The Deluxe Decepticon Wild Rider retails for $24.99 USD, while the Leader Blitzwing retails for $55.99. Both figures are due for release this July and will be available for pre-order on Hasbro Pulse and other retailers starting April 12 at 1 p.m. EST.
Transformers: Generations Legacy Deluxe Decepticon Wild Rider
(Ages 8 and Up / Approx. Retail Price: $24.99 / Available: July 2022)
This TRANSFORMERS: LEGACY 5.5-inch DELUXE DECEPTICON WILD RIDER robot toy is inspired by the animated series, The Transformers, updated with a Generations-style design. WILD RIDER lives up to his name. He’s a bit of a loose cannon. When he hits the road, he drives to destroy!
WILD RIDER action figure converts from robot to sports car mode in 17 steps and comes with 2 Energon blaster accessories. The DECEPTICON WILD RIDER toy also combines as the MENASOR figure’s left leg. Collect other TRANSFORMERS: LEGACY combiner figures to form MENASOR (each sold separately, subject to availability)!
Transformers: Generations Legacy Leader Blitzwing
(Ages 8 and Up / Approx. Retail Price: $55.99 / Available: July 2022)
This TRANSFORMERS: LEGACY 7-inch LEADER BLITZWING robot toy is inspired by the animated series, The Transformers, updated with a Generations-style design. BLITZWING terrorizes his opponents by switching between his three modes in battle, laughing all the while! The triple changer action figure converts from robot to jet mode in 32 steps and from robot to tank mode in 41 steps. BLITZWING also comes with a sword, 2 blaster accessories and features a rotating turret in tank mode
While many have called this generations line "mini mps", Hasbro designers are now using that term openly when presenting and we are seeing what that truly means. Remember, the MP line does not have a strict correlation between price and size, where MP Bumblebee and MP Skids are similarly priced while one is much smaller than the other (one being deluxe sized and the other being voyager sized) and two bots of the same size can have a price difference of over one hundred dollars. None of us question that, but bringing that same logic into a toyline with defined price points, like the generations line, means that toys which have the same height could (and do) end up at different price points. Plus you add the notion of a unified scale, like the MP line, and more focus on animation accuracy than any Generations line in the past. Blitzwing is an emblem of this paradigm shift where he truly is a mini MP in that sense. We would not have questioned such slavish G1 accuracy to the point of detriment (according to some) on an MP figure and Hasbro is applying that same logic to this generations version.
Here are the images followed by the product info:
Hasbro has provided CBR with an exclusive first look at the Transformers: Generations Legacy Deluxe Decepticon Wild Rider and the Transformers: Generations Legacy Leader Blitzwing figures ahead of their wide reveal tomorrow, Tuesday, April 12. The Deluxe Decepticon Wild Rider retails for $24.99 USD, while the Leader Blitzwing retails for $55.99. Both figures are due for release this July and will be available for pre-order on Hasbro Pulse and other retailers starting April 12 at 1 p.m. EST.
Transformers: Generations Legacy Deluxe Decepticon Wild Rider
(Ages 8 and Up / Approx. Retail Price: $24.99 / Available: July 2022)
This TRANSFORMERS: LEGACY 5.5-inch DELUXE DECEPTICON WILD RIDER robot toy is inspired by the animated series, The Transformers, updated with a Generations-style design. WILD RIDER lives up to his name. He’s a bit of a loose cannon. When he hits the road, he drives to destroy!
WILD RIDER action figure converts from robot to sports car mode in 17 steps and comes with 2 Energon blaster accessories. The DECEPTICON WILD RIDER toy also combines as the MENASOR figure’s left leg. Collect other TRANSFORMERS: LEGACY combiner figures to form MENASOR (each sold separately, subject to availability)!
Transformers: Generations Legacy Leader Blitzwing
(Ages 8 and Up / Approx. Retail Price: $55.99 / Available: July 2022)
This TRANSFORMERS: LEGACY 7-inch LEADER BLITZWING robot toy is inspired by the animated series, The Transformers, updated with a Generations-style design. BLITZWING terrorizes his opponents by switching between his three modes in battle, laughing all the while! The triple changer action figure converts from robot to jet mode in 32 steps and from robot to tank mode in 41 steps. BLITZWING also comes with a sword, 2 blaster accessories and features a rotating turret in tank mode
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Re: Legacy Wild Rider Revealed + Blitzwing Revealed to have 41 Steps from Robot to Tank Mode (2131068)
Posted by Munkky on April 11th, 2022 @ 2:22pm CDT
Posted by Munkky on April 11th, 2022 @ 2:22pm CDT
Wildrider does look nice, I'm still not 100% sold on the Stunticons, but they're shaping up to be at least a bit better than the Combiner Wars ones. The more I see of Blitzwing the less I feel like getting one, he's now at the very bottom of my maybe pile. Here's hoping we see the whole of Wave 2 tomorrow, or at least a decent chunk of it.
Re: Legacy Wild Rider Revealed + Blitzwing Revealed to have 41 Steps from Robot to Tank Mode (2131069)
Posted by william-james88 on April 11th, 2022 @ 2:34pm CDT
I agree
Maybe it's because people grew up at different times with differnet toys. For anyone who's a fan of the G1 Devastator toy, or the smaller train combiners, frames are just as integral to the idea of a combiner toy. But for those who got into it with Combiner Wars, it might be different.
I'm a power rangers fan so I'm even fine with partsforming. I just like the idea of building a behemoth.
Maybe the wise thing then would be to buy lots of Dragstrips as a short term investment.
Posted by william-james88 on April 11th, 2022 @ 2:34pm CDT
Sowndwave76 wrote:I think this Wildrider looks very good. And both modes, too.
Imo he looks better than Dragstrip (relatively speaking).
I agree
o.supreme wrote:Unfortunately the term has been convoluted recently in the minds of some fans. whether all components are physically touching each other, or combined via a frame. To me it makes no difference, but to some it does.
Maybe it's because people grew up at different times with differnet toys. For anyone who's a fan of the G1 Devastator toy, or the smaller train combiners, frames are just as integral to the idea of a combiner toy. But for those who got into it with Combiner Wars, it might be different.
I'm a power rangers fan so I'm even fine with partsforming. I just like the idea of building a behemoth.
sol magnus wrote:I fully expect to be vindicated by all the people yelling 'eh, I don't want the new Stunticons cuz reasons'.
Maybe the wise thing then would be to buy lots of Dragstrips as a short term investment.
Re: Legacy Wild Rider Revealed + Blitzwing Revealed to have 41 Steps from Robot to Tank Mode (2131070)
Posted by william-james88 on April 11th, 2022 @ 2:35pm CDT
I gotta say, that jet mode looks really unapealing in Hasbro's professional photography.
Posted by william-james88 on April 11th, 2022 @ 2:35pm CDT
Munkky wrote:Wildrider does look nice, I'm still not 100% sold on the Stunticons, but they're shaping up to be at least a bit better than the Combiner Wars ones. The more I see of Blitzwing the less I feel like getting one, he's now at the very bottom of my maybe pile. Here's hoping we see the whole of Wave 2 tomorrow, or at least a decent chunk of it.
I gotta say, that jet mode looks really unapealing in Hasbro's professional photography.
Re: Legacy Wild Rider Revealed + Blitzwing Revealed to have 41 Steps from Robot to Tank Mode (2131072)
Posted by palmcd on April 11th, 2022 @ 2:44pm CDT
Posted by palmcd on April 11th, 2022 @ 2:44pm CDT
"Mini Masterpiece" or not that plane mode is unforgivable and the tank mode. though "screen accurate", is ugly as sin.
Re: Legacy Wild Rider Revealed + Blitzwing Revealed to have 41 Steps from Robot to Tank Mode (2131073)
Posted by Overcracker on April 11th, 2022 @ 3:00pm CDT
Posted by Overcracker on April 11th, 2022 @ 3:00pm CDT
Wild Rider looks excellent. Been pondering the idea of cancelling my Dragstrip pre-order, since Amazon is taking their sweet time to ship it, but seeing Willd Rider now I think I'll wait. Also Motormaster looks excellent in vehicle mode. I guess I'll bite the bullet and and keep pre-ordering Meansor parts even if I'm not completely sold on the "skeleton with cars slapped on it" method of combining.
Blitzwing....
Hopefully you can finagle those lower panels into something less awkward for Jet mode. Tank mode and robot mode look great.
The last lingering question Is... What do those red Energon hulk hands go to exactly? Do we know if there's some other figure that will use them? I'm sure they aren't meant for Blitzwing directly even if they come with him. I think it's something like the core class sword parts there's likely some other use for those hands with parts from other leader class figures.
Blitzwing....
Hopefully you can finagle those lower panels into something less awkward for Jet mode. Tank mode and robot mode look great.
The last lingering question Is... What do those red Energon hulk hands go to exactly? Do we know if there's some other figure that will use them? I'm sure they aren't meant for Blitzwing directly even if they come with him. I think it's something like the core class sword parts there's likely some other use for those hands with parts from other leader class figures.
Re: Legacy Wild Rider Revealed + Blitzwing Revealed to have 41 Steps from Robot to Tank Mode (2131074)
Posted by sol magnus on April 11th, 2022 @ 3:01pm CDT
Yeah, I'm still getting Blitzwing, but there's no helping the jet mode.
Posted by sol magnus on April 11th, 2022 @ 3:01pm CDT
Overcracker wrote:Wild Rider looks excellent. Been pondering the idea of cancelling my Dragstrip pre-order, since Amazon is taking their sweet time to ship it, but seeing Willd Rider now I think I'll wait. Also Motormaster looks excellent in vehicle mode. I guess I'll bite the bullet and and keep pre-ordering Meansor parts even if I'm not completely sold on the "skeleton with cars slapped on it" method of combining.
Blitzwing....
Hopefully you can finagle those lower panels into something less awkward for Jet mode. Tank mode and robot mode look great.
Yeah, I'm still getting Blitzwing, but there's no helping the jet mode.
Re: Legacy Wild Rider Revealed + Blitzwing Revealed to have 41 Steps from Robot to Tank Mode (2131076)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on April 11th, 2022 @ 3:17pm CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on April 11th, 2022 @ 3:17pm CDT
Wildrider looks ANAZING.
I'm looking forward all the Legacy Stunticons.
That Blitzwing again.
The bot is fantastic but that "pregnant" jet...
That tank with its "dick" out...
I'm looking forward all the Legacy Stunticons.
That Blitzwing again.
The bot is fantastic but that "pregnant" jet...
That tank with its "dick" out...
Re: Legacy Wild Rider Revealed + Blitzwing Revealed to have 41 Steps from Robot to Tank Mode (2131079)
Posted by blackeyedprime on April 11th, 2022 @ 3:28pm CDT
Posted by blackeyedprime on April 11th, 2022 @ 3:28pm CDT
Blitzwings still nothing like the cartoon look for both of his alt modes. Every picture makes him easier to pass on.
Wild rider looks really good, maybe his back bits could have folded away more in bot mode but the main thing is Hasbro has finally learned how to make deluxe cars with out mismatched panelling yayayyayayayayayay! Still really not keen on Drag Strip but I think I'd pick up wild rider with out feeling the need to complete the stunticons as car mode is probably a stand out over the last three plus years of car bots.
Wild rider looks really good, maybe his back bits could have folded away more in bot mode but the main thing is Hasbro has finally learned how to make deluxe cars with out mismatched panelling yayayyayayayayayay! Still really not keen on Drag Strip but I think I'd pick up wild rider with out feeling the need to complete the stunticons as car mode is probably a stand out over the last three plus years of car bots.
Re: Legacy Wild Rider Revealed + Blitzwing Revealed to have 41 Steps from Robot to Tank Mode (2131080)
Posted by DeathReviews on April 11th, 2022 @ 3:35pm CDT
Posted by DeathReviews on April 11th, 2022 @ 3:35pm CDT
Nice Legend Blitzwing photos. Still, 43 steps to convert to tank - and they STILL couldn't be bothered to add a couple more steps, in order to hide the jet cockpit? Even if it wasn't jutting out AS MUCH, that would be better than this.
No gripes about Wildrider yet. Though I'm wondering what they're trying to hide by not showing what he looks like from behind...
No gripes about Wildrider yet. Though I'm wondering what they're trying to hide by not showing what he looks like from behind...
Re: Legacy Wild Rider Revealed + Blitzwing Revealed to have 41 Steps from Robot to Tank Mode (2131082)
Posted by sol magnus on April 11th, 2022 @ 3:39pm CDT
When do they ever show what any figure looks like from behind?
Posted by sol magnus on April 11th, 2022 @ 3:39pm CDT
DeathReviews wrote:No gripes about Wildrider yet. Though I'm wondering what they're trying to hide by not showing what he looks like from behind...
When do they ever show what any figure looks like from behind?
Re: Legacy Wild Rider Revealed + Blitzwing Revealed to have 41 Steps from Robot to Tank Mode (2131083)
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on April 11th, 2022 @ 3:44pm CDT
Yeah, that's more a Takara thing than a Hasbro
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on April 11th, 2022 @ 3:44pm CDT
sol magnus wrote:DeathReviews wrote:No gripes about Wildrider yet. Though I'm wondering what they're trying to hide by not showing what he looks like from behind...
When do they ever show what any figure looks like from behind?
Yeah, that's more a Takara thing than a Hasbro
Re: Legacy Wild Rider Revealed + Blitzwing Revealed to have 41 Steps from Robot to Tank Mode (2131084)
Posted by william-james88 on April 11th, 2022 @ 3:46pm CDT
Aa the article states, the jet mode cockpit in tank mode is part of this being a mini mp, trying to recreate the look on the show. So the extra steps are actually to make it look like this.
It's a feature, not a flaw
Posted by william-james88 on April 11th, 2022 @ 3:46pm CDT
DeathReviews wrote:Nice Legend Blitzwing photos. Still, 43 steps to convert to tank - and they STILL couldn't be bothered to add a couple more steps, in order to hide the jet cockpit? Even if it wasn't jutting out AS MUCH, that would be better than this.
No gripes about Wildrider yet. Though I'm wondering what they're trying to hide by not showing what he looks like from behind...
Aa the article states, the jet mode cockpit in tank mode is part of this being a mini mp, trying to recreate the look on the show. So the extra steps are actually to make it look like this.
It's a feature, not a flaw
Re: Legacy Wild Rider Revealed + Blitzwing Revealed to have 41 Steps from Robot to Tank Mode (2131085)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on April 11th, 2022 @ 4:19pm CDT
Crazy, right? These photos make the issues with both alt modes look worse than the ones we've seen previously. Its like they chose the absolute worse possible angle for jet mode.
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on April 11th, 2022 @ 4:19pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Munkky wrote:Wildrider does look nice, I'm still not 100% sold on the Stunticons, but they're shaping up to be at least a bit better than the Combiner Wars ones. The more I see of Blitzwing the less I feel like getting one, he's now at the very bottom of my maybe pile. Here's hoping we see the whole of Wave 2 tomorrow, or at least a decent chunk of it.
I gotta say, that jet mode looks really unapealing in Hasbro's professional photography.
Crazy, right? These photos make the issues with both alt modes look worse than the ones we've seen previously. Its like they chose the absolute worse possible angle for jet mode.
Re: Legacy Wild Rider Revealed + Blitzwing Revealed to have 41 Steps from Robot to Tank Mode (2131086)
Posted by Sowndwave76 on April 11th, 2022 @ 4:34pm CDT
Posted by Sowndwave76 on April 11th, 2022 @ 4:34pm CDT
I'm by no means defending Blitzwing's jet mode... It's not good unless viewed from almost directly above.
My thought though, is how many people are buying this figure for the jet mode? Especially with that mode as a first priority?
My next thought, is how many people are truly planning on displaying him in jet mode?
I get it, $55+ for a triple-changer and of course ideally all 3 modes are on point.
It is unfortunate that they packed in really lame accessories that pushed it up to leader class price.
But that robot mode is really good. I have to give Hastak credit for getting these proportions done so well. The same can be said about Wild Rider.
Also, those head/face sculpts are incredible. Which unfortunately (and somewhat surprisingly) can't be said for all recent figures, including Dragstrip.
I do understand if those alt modes were that important for some. And that disappointment could make that price a real turn-off.
But I'm looking forward to him as much as any other figure this year (after SS86 Sludge)!
My thought though, is how many people are buying this figure for the jet mode? Especially with that mode as a first priority?
My next thought, is how many people are truly planning on displaying him in jet mode?
I get it, $55+ for a triple-changer and of course ideally all 3 modes are on point.
It is unfortunate that they packed in really lame accessories that pushed it up to leader class price.
But that robot mode is really good. I have to give Hastak credit for getting these proportions done so well. The same can be said about Wild Rider.
Also, those head/face sculpts are incredible. Which unfortunately (and somewhat surprisingly) can't be said for all recent figures, including Dragstrip.
I do understand if those alt modes were that important for some. And that disappointment could make that price a real turn-off.
But I'm looking forward to him as much as any other figure this year (after SS86 Sludge)!
Re: Legacy Wild Rider Revealed + Blitzwing Revealed to have 41 Steps from Robot to Tank Mode (2131088)
Posted by ZeroWolf on April 11th, 2022 @ 4:37pm CDT
It was the complexity and parts count that pushed it past the Voyager price point.
Posted by ZeroWolf on April 11th, 2022 @ 4:37pm CDT
Sowndwave76 wrote:I'm by no means defending Blitzwing's jet mode... It's not good unless viewed from almost directly above.
My thought though, is how many people are buying this figure for the jet mode? Especially with that mode as a first priority?
My next thought, is how many people are truly planning on displaying him in jet mode?
I get it, $55+ for a triple-changer and of course ideally all 3 modes are on point.
It is unfortunate that they packed in really lame accessories that pushed it up to leader class price.
But that robot mode is really good. I have to give Hastak credit for getting these proportions done so well. The same can be said about Wild Rider.
Also, those head/face sculpts are incredible. Which unfortunately (and somewhat surprisingly) can't be said for all recent figures, including Dragstrip.
I do understand if those alt modes were that important for some. And that disappointment could make that price a real turn-off.
But I'm looking forward to him as much as any other figure this year (after SS86 Sludge)!
It was the complexity and parts count that pushed it past the Voyager price point.
Re: Legacy Wild Rider Revealed + Blitzwing Revealed to have 41 Steps from Robot to Tank Mode (2131089)
Posted by DeathReviews on April 11th, 2022 @ 4:45pm CDT
And here I thought it was only a thing among software developers to deliberately perpetuate mistakes, flaws and imperfections as 'features', and then charge you extra for them...
Posted by DeathReviews on April 11th, 2022 @ 4:45pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:DeathReviews wrote:Nice Legend Blitzwing photos. Still, 43 steps to convert to tank - and they STILL couldn't be bothered to add a couple more steps, in order to hide the jet cockpit? Even if it wasn't jutting out AS MUCH, that would be better than this.
No gripes about Wildrider yet. Though I'm wondering what they're trying to hide by not showing what he looks like from behind...
Aa the article states, the jet mode cockpit in tank mode is part of this being a mini mp, trying to recreate the look on the show. So the extra steps are actually to make it look like this.
It's a feature, not a flaw
And here I thought it was only a thing among software developers to deliberately perpetuate mistakes, flaws and imperfections as 'features', and then charge you extra for them...
Re: Legacy Wild Rider Revealed + Blitzwing Revealed to have 41 Steps from Robot to Tank Mode (2131090)
Posted by blackeyedprime on April 11th, 2022 @ 5:04pm CDT
Daft thing is, I have TR Blitzwing mold in display in all three forms, Megatron as a jet to represent him borrowing the decepticons powers fighting Optimus. Blitzwing and G2 Megs in bot mode, Vega/M Bison and a Megatron to be repainted as action master tank in tank mode. I wouldnt want Legacy Blitzwing for any mode (he's a bit of a shrimp in comparison with TR bots and I kept TR astrotrain over WFCs astro train voyager with plastic).
Posted by blackeyedprime on April 11th, 2022 @ 5:04pm CDT
Sowndwave76 wrote:I'm by no means defending Blitzwing's jet mode... It's not good unless viewed from almost directly above.
My thought though, is how many people are buying this figure for the jet mode? Especially with that mode as a first priority?
Daft thing is, I have TR Blitzwing mold in display in all three forms, Megatron as a jet to represent him borrowing the decepticons powers fighting Optimus. Blitzwing and G2 Megs in bot mode, Vega/M Bison and a Megatron to be repainted as action master tank in tank mode. I wouldnt want Legacy Blitzwing for any mode (he's a bit of a shrimp in comparison with TR bots and I kept TR astrotrain over WFCs astro train voyager with plastic).
Re: Legacy Wild Rider Revealed + Blitzwing Revealed to have 41 Steps from Robot to Tank Mode (2131091)
Posted by Sowndwave76 on April 11th, 2022 @ 5:20pm CDT
I get it. However, I completely disagree with anyone who wants to claim the Legacy version's robot mode is bad (I'm not saying you specifically implied this).
For what it's trying to achieve especially in terms of cartoon-like appearance, it's nowhere even close to "bad".
If we're getting the ER Ironhide mold for SS86, this Blitzwing most definitely could have been in that subline based on the bot mode alone.
Posted by Sowndwave76 on April 11th, 2022 @ 5:20pm CDT
blackeyedprime wrote:I wouldnt want Legacy Blitzwing for any mode (he's a bit of a shrimp in comparison with TR bots and I kept TR astrotrain over WFCs astro train voyager with plastic).
I get it. However, I completely disagree with anyone who wants to claim the Legacy version's robot mode is bad (I'm not saying you specifically implied this).
For what it's trying to achieve especially in terms of cartoon-like appearance, it's nowhere even close to "bad".
If we're getting the ER Ironhide mold for SS86, this Blitzwing most definitely could have been in that subline based on the bot mode alone.
Re: Legacy Wild Rider Revealed + Blitzwing Revealed to have 41 Steps from Robot to Tank Mode (2131092)
Posted by MeGrimlock78 on April 11th, 2022 @ 5:23pm CDT
Posted by MeGrimlock78 on April 11th, 2022 @ 5:23pm CDT
Can't wait for Wildrider to get retooled as K.I.T.T.!
Ahem. Anyway.
From the box art, Blitz's jet nose in tank mode kinda looks like a canon...
Ahem. Anyway.
From the box art, Blitz's jet nose in tank mode kinda looks like a canon...
Re: Legacy Wild Rider Revealed + Blitzwing Revealed to have 41 Steps from Robot to Tank Mode (2131093)
Posted by ZeroWolf on April 11th, 2022 @ 5:39pm CDT
Blitzwing was probably in legacy because of slot availability.
Posted by ZeroWolf on April 11th, 2022 @ 5:39pm CDT
Sowndwave76 wrote:blackeyedprime wrote:I wouldnt want Legacy Blitzwing for any mode (he's a bit of a shrimp in comparison with TR bots and I kept TR astrotrain over WFCs astro train voyager with plastic).
I get it. However, I completely disagree with anyone who wants to claim the Legacy version's robot mode is bad (I'm not saying you specifically implied this).
For what it's trying to achieve especially in terms of cartoon-like appearance, it's nowhere even close to "bad".
If we're getting the ER Ironhide mold for SS86, this Blitzwing most definitely could have been in that subline based on the bot mode alone.
Blitzwing was probably in legacy because of slot availability.
Re: Legacy Wild Rider Revealed + Blitzwing Revealed to have 41 Steps from Robot to Tank Mode (2131094)
Posted by SpaceEagle on April 11th, 2022 @ 5:46pm CDT
Posted by SpaceEagle on April 11th, 2022 @ 5:46pm CDT
That's a lot more kibble on Wild Rider than I expected, but he does look veeeeerrrrey damn good otherwise. Probably kibble that you can fiddle with to look nicer. Still definitely getting both of these figures.
Re: Legacy Wild Rider Revealed + Blitzwing Revealed to have 41 Steps from Robot to Tank Mode (2131095)
Posted by william-james88 on April 11th, 2022 @ 5:48pm CDT
Or a question of budget. Like he worked within the allocated budget left for Legacy leaders and not SS leaders.
Posted by william-james88 on April 11th, 2022 @ 5:48pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:Sowndwave76 wrote:blackeyedprime wrote:I wouldnt want Legacy Blitzwing for any mode (he's a bit of a shrimp in comparison with TR bots and I kept TR astrotrain over WFCs astro train voyager with plastic).
I get it. However, I completely disagree with anyone who wants to claim the Legacy version's robot mode is bad (I'm not saying you specifically implied this).
For what it's trying to achieve especially in terms of cartoon-like appearance, it's nowhere even close to "bad".
If we're getting the ER Ironhide mold for SS86, this Blitzwing most definitely could have been in that subline based on the bot mode alone.
Blitzwing was probably in legacy because of slot availability.
Or a question of budget. Like he worked within the allocated budget left for Legacy leaders and not SS leaders.
Re: Legacy Wild Rider Revealed + Blitzwing Revealed to have 41 Steps from Robot to Tank Mode (2131096)
Posted by william-james88 on April 11th, 2022 @ 6:14pm CDT
Yeah, but that just means the eventual MP from Takara will also be ugly as sin in tank mode.
Having looked at Wild Rider some more, I am not as enthusiastic as before. While what they are doing with Blitzwing goes with their Mini MP mentality they've been touting, they do some really odd choices with the stunticons. Dragstrip had those odd shoulder pylons and now Wild Rider loses the shoulder wheels which are present on the G1 toy and animation model. Since there is very little compromising this figure in theory for him to combine, I have no clue why Hasbro didn't just do a transformation that would have the wheels end up in the proper position. Plus, it would help lessen the back kibble (which aside from the wheels, is accurate to either the toy or the cartoon).
Plus, I hate clear plastic hinges, and that's what Wild Rider has for the car front connecting to the robot.
Also, I read the facebook comments on the official facebook page for hasbro where they revealed this themselves and the comments are mostly positive with lots of excitement. So hasbro must be feeling pretty good about this output.
Posted by william-james88 on April 11th, 2022 @ 6:14pm CDT
palmcd wrote:"Mini Masterpiece" or not that plane mode is unforgivable and the tank mode. though "screen accurate", is ugly as sin.
Yeah, but that just means the eventual MP from Takara will also be ugly as sin in tank mode.
SpaceEagle wrote:That's a lot more kibble on Wild Rider than I expected, but he does look veeeeerrrrey damn good otherwise. Probably kibble that you can fiddle with to look nicer. Still definitely getting both of these figures.
Having looked at Wild Rider some more, I am not as enthusiastic as before. While what they are doing with Blitzwing goes with their Mini MP mentality they've been touting, they do some really odd choices with the stunticons. Dragstrip had those odd shoulder pylons and now Wild Rider loses the shoulder wheels which are present on the G1 toy and animation model. Since there is very little compromising this figure in theory for him to combine, I have no clue why Hasbro didn't just do a transformation that would have the wheels end up in the proper position. Plus, it would help lessen the back kibble (which aside from the wheels, is accurate to either the toy or the cartoon).
Plus, I hate clear plastic hinges, and that's what Wild Rider has for the car front connecting to the robot.
Also, I read the facebook comments on the official facebook page for hasbro where they revealed this themselves and the comments are mostly positive with lots of excitement. So hasbro must be feeling pretty good about this output.
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Posted by Sabrblade on April 11th, 2022 @ 7:18pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on April 11th, 2022 @ 7:18pm CDT
Well, it's Facebook. It's full of "Geewun yes-men" who like anything that looks enough like 1980s G1. The same crowd also praised the Machimina Prime Wars Trilogy cartoon and the Siege and Earthrise seasons of the War For Cybertron Trilogy cartoon.william-james88 wrote:Also, I read the facebook comments on the official facebook page for hasbro where they revealed this themselves and the comments are mostly positive with lots of excitement. So hasbro must be feeling pretty good about this output.
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Posted by sol magnus on April 11th, 2022 @ 7:21pm CDT
"Geewun yes-men?" I didn't know we were elitist around here...
Posted by sol magnus on April 11th, 2022 @ 7:21pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Well, it's Facebook. It's full of "Geewun yes-men" who like anything that looks enough like 1980s G1. The same crowd also praised the Machimina Prime Wars Trilogy cartoon and the Siege and Earthrise seasons of the War For Cybertron Trilogy cartoon.william-james88 wrote:Also, I read the facebook comments on the official facebook page for hasbro where they revealed this themselves and the comments are mostly positive with lots of excitement. So hasbro must be feeling pretty good about this output.
"Geewun yes-men?" I didn't know we were elitist around here...
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Posted by ZeroWolf on April 11th, 2022 @ 7:27pm CDT
Ah yes, forgot that could differ between lines
Posted by ZeroWolf on April 11th, 2022 @ 7:27pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:Sowndwave76 wrote:blackeyedprime wrote:I wouldnt want Legacy Blitzwing for any mode (he's a bit of a shrimp in comparison with TR bots and I kept TR astrotrain over WFCs astro train voyager with plastic).
I get it. However, I completely disagree with anyone who wants to claim the Legacy version's robot mode is bad (I'm not saying you specifically implied this).
For what it's trying to achieve especially in terms of cartoon-like appearance, it's nowhere even close to "bad".
If we're getting the ER Ironhide mold for SS86, this Blitzwing most definitely could have been in that subline based on the bot mode alone.
Blitzwing was probably in legacy because of slot availability.
Or a question of budget. Like he worked within the allocated budget left for Legacy leaders and not SS leaders.
Ah yes, forgot that could differ between lines
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Posted by Sabrblade on April 11th, 2022 @ 7:32pm CDT
I mean, it's 2022. How is it that after all these years, I still have to explain the difference between "G1" and "Geewun"?
Posted by Sabrblade on April 11th, 2022 @ 7:32pm CDT
I'm talking about the specific group who only goes for G1-related stuff and blindly so, not the kind of fans who like G1 but are of sound enough mind to recognize that anything G1-related is neither a flawless masterpiece nor the only good thing about Transformers. Hence my mentioning the Facebook crowd's blind acclaim of both the Machinima Prime Wars Trilogy and the Siege and Earthrise seasons of the WFCT cartoon, which around these parts received much more level-headed criticism for their very obvious flaws and few genuinely well-done aspects (like Jason Marnocha's entertaining performance as Megatron in both, for example).sol magnus wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Well, it's Facebook. It's full of "Geewun yes-men" who like anything that looks enough like 1980s G1. The same crowd also praised the Machimina Prime Wars Trilogy cartoon and the Siege and Earthrise seasons of the War For Cybertron Trilogy cartoon.william-james88 wrote:Also, I read the facebook comments on the official facebook page for hasbro where they revealed this themselves and the comments are mostly positive with lots of excitement. So hasbro must be feeling pretty good about this output.
"Geewun yes-men?" I didn't know we were elitist around here...
I mean, it's 2022. How is it that after all these years, I still have to explain the difference between "G1" and "Geewun"?
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Posted by sol magnus on April 11th, 2022 @ 7:34pm CDT
Because the goalposts get moved a lot, brother.
Posted by sol magnus on April 11th, 2022 @ 7:34pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:I mean, it's 2022. How is it that after all these years, I still have to explain the difference between "G1" and "Geewun"?
Because the goalposts get moved a lot, brother.
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Posted by SpaceEagle on April 11th, 2022 @ 8:27pm CDT
Yeah, like, I was pretty hyped - Drag Strip was pretty damn clean all things considered, the shoulder pylons didn't bug me in pics and I'm def forgetting they even exist on the figure in-hand. Honestly it even reminds me of Quick Man from the Mega Man series a bit which I find rather fitting.
But...if the 'bots aren't gonna be that integrated into Menasor, I expected a REALLY clean Wild Rider, so this genuinely perplexed me a little. I still think it looks GOOD and the sculpt overall is nicer than the CW version imo, but I'm still hoping that kibble can be fiddled with better. Although....maybe this also sorta maybe not really means that Menasor will have options to make the bots more properly integrated or slapped on to please both sides? Does make me even more curious to see Menasor now...and Motormaster's bot mode too...
Posted by SpaceEagle on April 11th, 2022 @ 8:27pm CDT
SpaceEagle wrote:That's a lot more kibble on Wild Rider than I expected, but he does look veeeeerrrrey damn good otherwise. Probably kibble that you can fiddle with to look nicer. Still definitely getting both of these figures.
william-james88 wrote:Having looked at Wild Rider some more, I am not as enthusiastic as before. While what they are doing with Blitzwing goes with their Mini MP mentality they've been touting, they do some really odd choices with the stunticons. Dragstrip had those odd shoulder pylons and now Wild Rider loses the shoulder wheels which are present on the G1 toy and animation model. Since there is very little compromising this figure in theory for him to combine, I have no clue why Hasbro didn't just do a transformation that would have the wheels end up in the proper position. Plus, it would help lessen the back kibble (which aside from the wheels, is accurate to either the toy or the cartoon).
Plus, I hate clear plastic hinges, and that's what Wild Rider has for the car front connecting to the robot.
Yeah, like, I was pretty hyped - Drag Strip was pretty damn clean all things considered, the shoulder pylons didn't bug me in pics and I'm def forgetting they even exist on the figure in-hand. Honestly it even reminds me of Quick Man from the Mega Man series a bit which I find rather fitting.
But...if the 'bots aren't gonna be that integrated into Menasor, I expected a REALLY clean Wild Rider, so this genuinely perplexed me a little. I still think it looks GOOD and the sculpt overall is nicer than the CW version imo, but I'm still hoping that kibble can be fiddled with better. Although....maybe this also sorta maybe not really means that Menasor will have options to make the bots more properly integrated or slapped on to please both sides? Does make me even more curious to see Menasor now...and Motormaster's bot mode too...
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Posted by Emerje on April 11th, 2022 @ 8:40pm CDT
I'm not so sure. We've seen them do extra parts so we could get both toy accuracy and cartoon accuracy in one figure like with Inferno and Grapple, but we've also seen alternate transformations built into figures like with Sunstreaker. I could see them either using an optional part to make it more realistic or work the cockpit into an optional transformation. Of course there's always option C where only the bot mode is cartoon accurate and the alt modes are realistic like they did with Swerve.
Incidentally TFSource and Sixo did an interesting rundown of Twitter reactions to Blitzwing. Spoiler - It's about as divisive as it is here.
Emerje
Posted by Emerje on April 11th, 2022 @ 8:40pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:palmcd wrote:"Mini Masterpiece" or not that plane mode is unforgivable and the tank mode. though "screen accurate", is ugly as sin.
Yeah, but that just means the eventual MP from Takara will also be ugly as sin in tank mode.
I'm not so sure. We've seen them do extra parts so we could get both toy accuracy and cartoon accuracy in one figure like with Inferno and Grapple, but we've also seen alternate transformations built into figures like with Sunstreaker. I could see them either using an optional part to make it more realistic or work the cockpit into an optional transformation. Of course there's always option C where only the bot mode is cartoon accurate and the alt modes are realistic like they did with Swerve.
Incidentally TFSource and Sixo did an interesting rundown of Twitter reactions to Blitzwing. Spoiler - It's about as divisive as it is here.
Emerje
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Posted by First-Aid on April 11th, 2022 @ 10:22pm CDT
Normally I'd say this needs to happen, but I want K.I.T.T. to be a voyager class. But I can see it for sure...
Posted by First-Aid on April 11th, 2022 @ 10:22pm CDT
MeGrimlock78 wrote:Can't wait for Wildrider to get retooled as K.I.T.T.!
Normally I'd say this needs to happen, but I want K.I.T.T. to be a voyager class. But I can see it for sure...
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Posted by o.supreme on April 11th, 2022 @ 10:38pm CDT
Indeed. That's why I personally find the term distastefull. But I get how prevalent things are so people use it I'll always refer to the original Transformers as just that, or "OG", original series etc...
I agree there are more level heads here, and am thankful. But some fans ( on social media especially) apply the negative connotation to anyone who even applies any slight praise to anything having to do with the original series.
Posted by o.supreme on April 11th, 2022 @ 10:38pm CDT
sol magnus wrote:Sabrblade wrote:I mean, it's 2022. How is it that after all these years, I still have to explain the difference between "G1" and "Geewun"?
Because the goalposts get moved a lot, brother.
Indeed. That's why I personally find the term distastefull. But I get how prevalent things are so people use it I'll always refer to the original Transformers as just that, or "OG", original series etc...
I agree there are more level heads here, and am thankful. But some fans ( on social media especially) apply the negative connotation to anyone who even applies any slight praise to anything having to do with the original series.
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Posted by Sabrblade on April 11th, 2022 @ 11:02pm CDT
We on here know Machinima's Prime Wars Trilogy was very mediocre in terms of writing, voice direction, animation, etc., but it received vast critical acclaim on Facebook and YouTube just because the characters looked like the ones from the 1980s.
The Bumblebee movie's opening scene has also been called "the ONLY good part of the movie" because of its use of G1-based designs, when those were just the icing (delicious icing, but still just icing) rather than the cake that was the rest of the movie's main story.
And when Kingdom's first wave was first unveiled, among the usual visitors to various fansites were a sudden bunch of lesser-knowns popping to deride the return of Beast Wars characters in typical "Trukk not Munky" fashion.
Fortunately, these kinds of sentiments seem to die down rather quickly as they come and go, with the majority of forum-dwelling fans such as ourselves appearing to appreciate G1 and other aspects of the brand with much more sensibility and rationality, able to recognize when there are parts of G1 (or any Transformers franchise) that we feel don't measure up as well as they could, or recognize when something does measure up.
Posted by Sabrblade on April 11th, 2022 @ 11:02pm CDT
Yeah, it's supposed to refer to the annoying subset of the fandom that cries foul about anything non-G1 in the brand and/or blindly praises anything that uses G1 designs regardless of how good it actually is.o.supreme wrote:sol magnus wrote:Sabrblade wrote:I mean, it's 2022. How is it that after all these years, I still have to explain the difference between "G1" and "Geewun"?
Because the goalposts get moved a lot, brother.
Indeed. That's why I personally find the term distastefull. But I get how prevalent things are so people use it I'll always refer to the original Transformers as just that, or "OG", original series etc...
I agree there are more level heads here, and am thankful. But some fans ( on social media especially) apply the negative connotation to anyone who even applies any slight praise to anything having to do with the original series.
We on here know Machinima's Prime Wars Trilogy was very mediocre in terms of writing, voice direction, animation, etc., but it received vast critical acclaim on Facebook and YouTube just because the characters looked like the ones from the 1980s.
The Bumblebee movie's opening scene has also been called "the ONLY good part of the movie" because of its use of G1-based designs, when those were just the icing (delicious icing, but still just icing) rather than the cake that was the rest of the movie's main story.
And when Kingdom's first wave was first unveiled, among the usual visitors to various fansites were a sudden bunch of lesser-knowns popping to deride the return of Beast Wars characters in typical "Trukk not Munky" fashion.
Fortunately, these kinds of sentiments seem to die down rather quickly as they come and go, with the majority of forum-dwelling fans such as ourselves appearing to appreciate G1 and other aspects of the brand with much more sensibility and rationality, able to recognize when there are parts of G1 (or any Transformers franchise) that we feel don't measure up as well as they could, or recognize when something does measure up.
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Posted by Coptur on April 12th, 2022 @ 2:34am CDT
I would prefer K.I.T.T. to be a deluxe like Gigawatt.
As I hope they do a K.I.T.T. & K.A.R.R. two pack
on a unrelated side note...
Transformers will always revert to a more G1 aesthetic just like Spider-Man will always revert to a old Blue and Red costume as they're the most iconic versions of the characters.
Sometimes you get a non G1 character usurping their G1 counterpart like Barricade, Knockout & Override but like we saw with Siege/Earthrise Barricade he gained his 'G1' look just like Knockout will with his Legacy toy and likely Override too.
Anything that followed G1 is a short term gimmick that lasts for a few years and they'll always revert to the G1 look and feel, but something always seems to survive from each new interpretation like the aforementioned Barricade, Knockout and heck even Hot Shot from Armada.
Don't believe me read 60s years of Spider-Man and if you're still unconvinced then just look at the reactions for the beginning of the Bumblebee movie compared to the reactions to the transformers from the other movies.
G1/Geeeeeeewuuuuuuun is Transformers.
not starting any arguments, just saying how i see it etc.
Posted by Coptur on April 12th, 2022 @ 2:34am CDT
First-Aid wrote:MeGrimlock78 wrote:Can't wait for Wildrider to get retooled as K.I.T.T.!
Normally I'd say this needs to happen, but I want K.I.T.T. to be a voyager class. But I can see it for sure...
I would prefer K.I.T.T. to be a deluxe like Gigawatt.
As I hope they do a K.I.T.T. & K.A.R.R. two pack
on a unrelated side note...
Transformers will always revert to a more G1 aesthetic just like Spider-Man will always revert to a old Blue and Red costume as they're the most iconic versions of the characters.
Sometimes you get a non G1 character usurping their G1 counterpart like Barricade, Knockout & Override but like we saw with Siege/Earthrise Barricade he gained his 'G1' look just like Knockout will with his Legacy toy and likely Override too.
Anything that followed G1 is a short term gimmick that lasts for a few years and they'll always revert to the G1 look and feel, but something always seems to survive from each new interpretation like the aforementioned Barricade, Knockout and heck even Hot Shot from Armada.
Don't believe me read 60s years of Spider-Man and if you're still unconvinced then just look at the reactions for the beginning of the Bumblebee movie compared to the reactions to the transformers from the other movies.
G1/Geeeeeeewuuuuuuun is Transformers.
not starting any arguments, just saying how i see it etc.
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Posted by -Kanrabat- on April 12th, 2022 @ 4:37am CDT
Voyager due to complexity and accessories like SS Hotrod?
Regardless, it's sure to be price at one zillion dollars in Canada for reasons. Especially if the thing turn out to be a TrU exclusive.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on April 12th, 2022 @ 4:37am CDT
First-Aid wrote:MeGrimlock78 wrote:Can't wait for Wildrider to get retooled as K.I.T.T.!
Normally I'd say this needs to happen, but I want K.I.T.T. to be a voyager class. But I can see it for sure...
Voyager due to complexity and accessories like SS Hotrod?
Regardless, it's sure to be price at one zillion dollars in Canada for reasons. Especially if the thing turn out to be a TrU exclusive.
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Posted by Rodimus Prime on April 12th, 2022 @ 4:42am CDT
This is my personal opinion, mind you, so don't get all bent out of shape. So far the line has gotten more right than wrong, but they dropped the ball on Blitzwing, especially the jet mode. Focusing just on the robot mode, I think it's still better than both TR and the previous Generations release, so if I find it cheap, I'll probably pick it up for display purposes, but it will barely see tank mode and will never see jet mode. No way is it worth $55.
And if there's a crossover with Knight Rider, why not use the ER Runabout mold? It's already black and the right vehicle model. Just give it a new head and some minor retooling, both for KITT and KARR.
Posted by Rodimus Prime on April 12th, 2022 @ 4:42am CDT
Absolutely not. This new Blitzwing barely looks like what we see on screen. The robot mode comes the closest, and the tank mode can pass, but that jet mode is atrocious. The fact that Hasbro actually considers this figure a "mini MP" shows how warped their new design team's view and creation process on the figure was. Not that the ER Ironhide mold should be in SS86 either.Sowndwave76 wrote:If we're getting the ER Ironhide mold for SS86, this Blitzwing most definitely could have been in that subline based on the bot mode alone.
This is my personal opinion, mind you, so don't get all bent out of shape. So far the line has gotten more right than wrong, but they dropped the ball on Blitzwing, especially the jet mode. Focusing just on the robot mode, I think it's still better than both TR and the previous Generations release, so if I find it cheap, I'll probably pick it up for display purposes, but it will barely see tank mode and will never see jet mode. No way is it worth $55.
And if there's a crossover with Knight Rider, why not use the ER Runabout mold? It's already black and the right vehicle model. Just give it a new head and some minor retooling, both for KITT and KARR.
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Posted by Sabrblade on April 12th, 2022 @ 6:08am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on April 12th, 2022 @ 6:08am CDT
In addition to KITT and KARR, I'd wanna see KARR 2.0 from the 2008 remake series, which could actually transform from a Ford Mustang Shelby GT500 KR into a semi-humanoid robot mode. He'd probably need his own new mold, though, much like Maverick and JP93.
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Posted by AcademyofDrX on April 12th, 2022 @ 7:14am CDT
I didn't completely agree on everything in this post, but this here is straight fire, you are speaking the truth. Most people's favorite part of the movie had almost no purpose in the movie except for fan service. Even if "Geewunner" as an actual fandom subset is largely a straw man, the blinding G1 nostalgia mindset is absolutely a real thing. (Full disclosure: my fandom tendencies are G1-centric but not exclusive.)
Posted by AcademyofDrX on April 12th, 2022 @ 7:14am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:The Bumblebee movie's opening scene has also been called "the ONLY good part of the movie" because of its use of G1-based designs, when those were just the icing (delicious icing, but still just icing) rather than the cake that was the rest of the movie's main story.
I didn't completely agree on everything in this post, but this here is straight fire, you are speaking the truth. Most people's favorite part of the movie had almost no purpose in the movie except for fan service. Even if "Geewunner" as an actual fandom subset is largely a straw man, the blinding G1 nostalgia mindset is absolutely a real thing. (Full disclosure: my fandom tendencies are G1-centric but not exclusive.)
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Posted by Emerje on April 12th, 2022 @ 7:22am CDT
Might as well do Power Rangers Turbo Team Night Rider while they're at it.
I could see a Deluxe KITT with swappable gimmick parts sold at a crossover Voyager price point.
Emerje
Posted by Emerje on April 12th, 2022 @ 7:22am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:In addition to KITT and KARR, I'd wanna see KARR 2.0 from the 2008 remake series, which could actually transform from a Ford Mustang Shelby GT500 KR into a semi-humanoid robot mode. He'd probably need his own new mold, though, much like Maverick and JP93.
Might as well do Power Rangers Turbo Team Night Rider while they're at it.
I could see a Deluxe KITT with swappable gimmick parts sold at a crossover Voyager price point.
Emerje
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Posted by william-james88 on April 12th, 2022 @ 7:36am CDT
Posted by william-james88 on April 12th, 2022 @ 7:36am CDT
Well, it's as we reported from the beginning, Motormaster will be a cab transforming into a robot with a battle station and both combine to make a frame for the Menasor combiner where the other cars will clip on, to give him that G1 look. We see all that now in this image of the back of the box. It's so G1 that the leg components clip in from behind exposing what's under the car for the leg mode. And we see the head sculpts of Menasor and Motormaster which look proper G1 as well. As people expressed from the beginning, this combiner will not be for everyone but it is going all out for fans who did want that real G1 look. And it is a popular look since 3rd party companies have been giving fans some options. Well now it's Hasbro's turn and you will let us know what you think. One thing's for sure, we at least see exactly where that Commander Price Point comes into play with Motormaster alone becoming a robot the size of a combiner.
These images are from Hasbro's official page on Weibo. We will probably see more of this bad boy later today at the event.
These images are from Hasbro's official page on Weibo. We will probably see more of this bad boy later today at the event.
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Posted by william-james88 on April 12th, 2022 @ 7:43am CDT
Posted by william-james88 on April 12th, 2022 @ 7:43am CDT
I'm actually impressed, this toy looks awesome. I get that it doesn't fit the standards of a combiner to all, but I don't see it that way. I see it as Hasbro having a clear goal of reproducing the cartoon look in a new toy and acing that mission. And it will be more affordable than any 3p option.
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Posted by sol magnus on April 12th, 2022 @ 7:45am CDT
Posted by sol magnus on April 12th, 2022 @ 7:45am CDT
Glorious. Just glorious. I'm as excited for this as I was for Rodimus last year.
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Posted by Immortal Starscream on April 12th, 2022 @ 7:54am CDT
Posted by Immortal Starscream on April 12th, 2022 @ 7:54am CDT
I am actually impressed. and hay look, it still has combiner wars ports on it too. looks like on the legs, so maybe you can have some cross play there. defiantly Definitely going to have to get this one
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Posted by william-james88 on April 12th, 2022 @ 7:59am CDT
Posted by william-james88 on April 12th, 2022 @ 7:59am CDT
Wait a sec, are those combiner port I see on the legs?
So he'd actually be compatible with the CW system.
So he'd actually be compatible with the CW system.
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Posted by sideswipe6520 on April 12th, 2022 @ 8:50am CDT
I immediately noticed that too. Based on where those are actually located in comparison to the torso mode I would say they appear like they could be. But those ports may be a bit smaller too.
I'm definitely intrigued by the possibility
Posted by sideswipe6520 on April 12th, 2022 @ 8:50am CDT
william-james88 wrote:Wait a sec, are those combiner port I see on the legs?
So he'd actually be compatible with the CW system.
I immediately noticed that too. Based on where those are actually located in comparison to the torso mode I would say they appear like they could be. But those ports may be a bit smaller too.
I'm definitely intrigued by the possibility
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Posted by o.supreme on April 12th, 2022 @ 9:07am CDT
Posted by o.supreme on April 12th, 2022 @ 9:07am CDT
It could be something similar to TT God Bomber. He came with CW ports on his legs, no real reason, but it definitely brought more fun and playability to the toy.
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Posted by Gauntlet101010 on April 12th, 2022 @ 9:09am CDT
I was hoping for that from the start since MM is the weakest part of the old Menasor set. Him I'd be tempted to replace.
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on April 12th, 2022 @ 9:09am CDT
william-james88 wrote:Wait a sec, are those combiner port I see on the legs?
So he'd actually be compatible with the CW system.
I was hoping for that from the start since MM is the weakest part of the old Menasor set. Him I'd be tempted to replace.
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Posted by DeathReviews on April 12th, 2022 @ 9:11am CDT
Posted by DeathReviews on April 12th, 2022 @ 9:11am CDT
Well, having savings was nice for a while, but Legacy Menasor looks shelf worthy....
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Posted by Agent 53 on April 12th, 2022 @ 9:16am CDT
Posted by Agent 53 on April 12th, 2022 @ 9:16am CDT
... I don't mind the way Menasor combines, or even the whole Motormaster just being the cab. However I can't help but feel that the trailer proportions are just... Off for me. it's something Hasbro have a habit of doing, of note Earthrise Prime's trailer.
It's not something that'll bother everyone, but it's just something I'm not keen on.
It's not something that'll bother everyone, but it's just something I'm not keen on.
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Posted by o.supreme on April 12th, 2022 @ 9:16am CDT
Posted by o.supreme on April 12th, 2022 @ 9:16am CDT
If it does turn out to be truly CW compatible, then darn ya Hasbro, you got me. I creatively found a way to have 3 Scattershots anyway (I have the single CW release for Modulus, The CW set is "Betatron", and the UW version is the true Computron)
So I could have the Legacy Stunticons be the Autobots in Disguise
So I could have the Legacy Stunticons be the Autobots in Disguise
