Legacy Beast Wars Inferno Found in China + In Hand Images

primalxconvoy wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:It's more to do with how short staffed we are here.

Then employ taller ones?

Big Grim wrote:

o.supreme wrote:For those that still own the original TM II Megatron, how's that vac metal holding up?

Honestly, all of my Transmetals seem to be holding up fine.

~ Grim

Emerje wrote:

primalxconvoy wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:It's more to do with how short staffed we are here.

Then employ taller ones?

I'm 6'7".
Emerje

Emerje wrote:Even Rattrap? He seems to be the most notorious chrome shedder. All of my Transmetals are fine, except I recently took Rattrap off the shelf where he'd been for years and I was shocked to find most of his chrome had cracked and pealed.

Emerje

Big Grim wrote:

Emerje wrote:Even Rattrap? He seems to be the most notorious chrome shedder. All of my Transmetals are fine, except I recently took Rattrap off the shelf where he'd been for years and I was shocked to find most of his chrome had cracked and pealed.

Emerje

Not sure I have Rattrap anymore. Would have to check. But Megatron (TMI & II), Primal TMI, Optimal, Depthcharge and Rampage are all pretty healthy looking. I'm actually getting a new spot for displaying figures sorted, so I'll have to catalogue what I still own.

*Edit*

Also, that Inferno is gloriously manic looking! I can hear him screaming "For the Royalty!"

~ Grim

Immortal Starscream wrote:...the way the new ant head looks on the chest still bugs me a teeny bit...

Bounti76 wrote:So...... he's basically a retool of Wildrider, with a spoiler. I wonder why Hasbro decided to go with that instead of a new mold, like the other 3 limbs got.

sol magnus wrote:

Bounti76 wrote:So...... he's basically a retool of Wildrider, with a spoiler. I wonder why Hasbro decided to go with that instead of a new mold, like the other 3 limbs got.

A retool is fine in the sense that the transformation is the same so they can be legs, I just wish the grille was more Lambo like. I see they...tried, but I'm not all that happy with the result. The spoiler is helpful.

BLIX007 wrote:Are we really surprised that this is a repaint/retool of Wildrider? Hasbro's cost savings/laziness is a little maddening. If they stay true to form they will most likely release a new molded Breakdown as a dang exclusive that will be compatible with this version of Menasor that will be horded and sold for scalped prices. If I remember correctly this would be similar to how they did in combiner wars version of Wildrider as a truck by a different name then actually brought out a more legit looking Wildrider later. Wish they could just stick the landing and not get lazy when completing a group. Cant wait to see what corners they cut on SS86 Snarl and Swoop. So disappointing.

Overcracker wrote:Looks better with the spoiler, but he's still basically just a white Wild Rider. Really lazy way to end the set. But as there's no other way to compete the set, so one must buy it.

I will be supper annoyed if they release Ana ctual Breakdown later with a completely new car shell, like they did with CW members.

BLIX007 wrote:If they stay true to form they will most likely release a new molded Breakdown as a dang exclusive that will be compatible with this version of Menasor that will be horded and sold for scalped prices.

BLIX007 wrote:If I remember correctly this would be similar to how they did in combiner wars version of Wildrider as a truck by a different name then actually brought out a more legit looking Wildrider later.

Sabrblade wrote:Who are Breakdown's wavemates? Maybe it was they who ate too much of the budget for that Deluxe class wave, leaving Breakdown to be a retool instead of a new mold.

ZeroWolf wrote:I don't think they'll be pulling that trick with this Breakdown, the CW are exceptions because they made new members first (except Blast Off who was the only one to retain the character, just not the alt mode)

Bare in mind that pattern was only accurate for the first original gestalt teams, and that might have had something to do with what Takara were doing with Unite Warriors.

Also I don't think he looks that bad with the group, or even noticeable in a group vehicle shot.

Randomhero wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Who are Breakdown's wavemates? Maybe it was they who ate too much of the budget for that Deluxe class wave, leaving Breakdown to be a retool instead of a new mold.

He didn’t have any. He was part of package refreshes from wave one plus wheejack but rumors are they’ve shuffled around wave four and moved wave one of evolution into it.

Randomhero wrote:

Overcracker wrote:Looks better with the spoiler, but he's still basically just a white Wild Rider. Really lazy way to end the set. But as there's no other way to compete the set, so one must buy it.

I will be supper annoyed if they release Ana ctual Breakdown later with a completely new car shell, like they did with CW members.

You do understand that wildrider from combiner wars was literally deadend with a new head right?

How was that more accepting than this a figure that has a new rear car, spoiler, guns torso and head.

The combiners wars version legit didn’t look anything like wildrider aside from his head and you folks are treating it as if hasbro gave you what you wanted. You got two limbs that were identical in alt mode. That’s not what you’re getting here

ZeroWolf wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Who are Breakdown's wavemates? Maybe it was they who ate too much of the budget for that Deluxe class wave, leaving Breakdown to be a retool instead of a new mold.

He didn’t have any. He was part of package refreshes from wave one plus wheejack but rumors are they’ve shuffled around wave four and moved wave one of evolution into it.

So like we've seen before then with Siege wave 5 and the last wave of Kingdom

Overcracker wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

Overcracker wrote:Looks better with the spoiler, but he's still basically just a white Wild Rider. Really lazy way to end the set. But as there's no other way to compete the set, so one must buy it.

I will be supper annoyed if they release Ana ctual Breakdown later with a completely new car shell, like they did with CW members.

You do understand that wildrider from combiner wars was literally deadend with a new head right?

How was that more accepting than this a figure that has a new rear car, spoiler, guns torso and head.

The combiners wars version legit didn’t look anything like wildrider aside from his head and you folks are treating it as if hasbro gave you what you wanted. You got two limbs that were identical in alt mode. That’s not what you’re getting here

I mean things like Blastoff. Were we got an actual Blastoff later. Not repaints of the same. mold in basically the same line with a wave difference.

Overcracker wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

Overcracker wrote:Looks better with the spoiler, but he's still basically just a white Wild Rider. Really lazy way to end the set. But as there's no other way to compete the set, so one must buy it.

I will be supper annoyed if they release Ana ctual Breakdown later with a completely new car shell, like they did with CW members.

You do understand that wildrider from combiner wars was literally deadend with a new head right?

How was that more accepting than this a figure that has a new rear car, spoiler, guns torso and head.

The combiners wars version legit didn’t look anything like wildrider aside from his head and you folks are treating it as if hasbro gave you what you wanted. You got two limbs that were identical in alt mode. That’s not what you’re getting here

I mean things like Blastoff. Were we got an actual Blastoff later. Not repaints of the same. mold in basically the same line with a wave difference.

Randomhero wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Who are Breakdown's wavemates? Maybe it was they who ate too much of the budget for that Deluxe class wave, leaving Breakdown to be a retool instead of a new mold.

He didn’t have any. He was part of package refreshes from wave one plus wheejack but rumors are they’ve shuffled around wave four and moved wave one of evolution into it.

So like we've seen before then with Siege wave 5 and the last wave of Kingdom

Doesn’t matter either way. Once he’s fully revealed and once he’s out everyone will have moved on and treated the next figure as the worst figure ever and call hasbro lazy for not reading their minds and giving them exactly what they want just like every reveal of a figure. Every figure is the west figure ever till the next one with certain fans who hate everything

AcademyofDrX wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Who are Breakdown's wavemates? Maybe it was they who ate too much of the budget for that Deluxe class wave, leaving Breakdown to be a retool instead of a new mold.

He didn’t have any. He was part of package refreshes from wave one plus wheejack but rumors are they’ve shuffled around wave four and moved wave one of evolution into it.

So like we've seen before then with Siege wave 5 and the last wave of Kingdom

Doesn’t matter either way. Once he’s fully revealed and once he’s out everyone will have moved on and treated the next figure as the worst figure ever and call hasbro lazy for not reading their minds and giving them exactly what they want just like every reveal of a figure. Every figure is the west figure ever till the next one with certain fans who hate everything

Haha, right? I'm constantly in awe of the TF fandom's ability to set themselves up for disappointment with unrealistic expectations. Meanwhile, raggedy Masters fans just go "please, sir, may we have another repaint?"

Randomhero wrote:

Overcracker wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

Overcracker wrote:Looks better with the spoiler, but he's still basically just a white Wild Rider. Really lazy way to end the set. But as there's no other way to compete the set, so one must buy it.

I will be supper annoyed if they release Ana ctual Breakdown later with a completely new car shell, like they did with CW members.

You do understand that wildrider from combiner wars was literally deadend with a new head right?

How was that more accepting than this a figure that has a new rear car, spoiler, guns torso and head.

The combiners wars version legit didn’t look anything like wildrider aside from his head and you folks are treating it as if hasbro gave you what you wanted. You got two limbs that were identical in alt mode. That’s not what you’re getting here

I mean things like Blastoff. Were we got an actual Blastoff later. Not repaints of the same. mold in basically the same line with a wave difference.

Oh please let’s not pretend that takara blastoff pulls off the shuttle mode at all and has decent proportions. He was a box with wings. His arms hung off the side his chest was ridiculous unless you configured him how hasbro chose to he has thrusters for hands and his deco wasn’t right plus he did the thing this fandom things is taboo and parts formed. Takara! Takara the company that can’t do wrong did that by themselves! If anything hasbro at least took the mold and decoed it better and for cheaper

Overcracker wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

Overcracker wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

Overcracker wrote:Looks better with the spoiler, but he's still basically just a white Wild Rider. Really lazy way to end the set. But as there's no other way to compete the set, so one must buy it.

I will be supper annoyed if they release Ana ctual Breakdown later with a completely new car shell, like they did with CW members.

You do understand that wildrider from combiner wars was literally deadend with a new head right?

How was that more accepting than this a figure that has a new rear car, spoiler, guns torso and head.

The combiners wars version legit didn’t look anything like wildrider aside from his head and you folks are treating it as if hasbro gave you what you wanted. You got two limbs that were identical in alt mode. That’s not what you’re getting here

I mean things like Blastoff. Were we got an actual Blastoff later. Not repaints of the same. mold in basically the same line with a wave difference.

Oh please let’s not pretend that takara blastoff pulls off the shuttle mode at all and has decent proportions. He was a box with wings. His arms hung off the side his chest was ridiculous unless you configured him how hasbro chose to he has thrusters for hands and his deco wasn’t right plus he did the thing this fandom things is taboo and parts formed. Takara! Takara the company that can’t do wrong did that by themselves! If anything hasbro at least took the mold and decoed it better and for cheaper

Not the point. Whether Blastoff was good or bad is not relevant. The fact it exists in addition to the jet blastoff, and would have been a better option form the get go is the point.

If Takara decides to make a new Breakdown a year form now and Hasbro decides the also want to release it 2 years from now, and that BreakDown is better than this one because it at least looks more like BreakDown is kind of a cheap tactic.

I don't think any of the other stunt icons are bad. I did not criticize them for what they did. I just think making Breakdown the same mold as Wild Rider after all the ingenious engineering and design of the other figures was lazy.

Would you be o.k if they just repainted DragStrip brown and called him Dead End? We got a distinct mold for Dead End even though they both do the same thing to combine with Menasor. Would retooling the front to look more like a Lambo be too much to ask for?

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Looks like we're gonna have to ask Mark about why Wildrider and Breakdown are (forced to have) the same base mold.

AcademyofDrX wrote:

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Looks like we're gonna have to ask Mark about why Wildrider and Breakdown are (forced to have) the same base mold.

Why? We know what he'll say, it was easier for the feet and more cost-effective. There's no mystery to solve here.

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:

AcademyofDrX wrote:

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Looks like we're gonna have to ask Mark about why Wildrider and Breakdown are (forced to have) the same base mold.

Why? We know what he'll say, it was easier for the feet and more cost-effective. There's no mystery to solve here.

At least some acknowledgement of a possible dedicated Breakdown mold in the original plan?

AcademyofDrX wrote:

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:

AcademyofDrX wrote:

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Looks like we're gonna have to ask Mark about why Wildrider and Breakdown are (forced to have) the same base mold.

Why? We know what he'll say, it was easier for the feet and more cost-effective. There's no mystery to solve here.

At least some acknowledgement of a possible dedicated Breakdown mold in the original plan?

What is the value of having that? "If they release a new mold Breakdown in two years I'll be mad, if they planned for a new mold but cheaped out I'll be mad..." We could all just, like, not be mad? Or just choose to be mad regardless of what's happening, I don't understand why it's worth the trouble to worry about at this point.

Sabrblade wrote:

AcademyofDrX wrote:

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:

AcademyofDrX wrote:

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Looks like we're gonna have to ask Mark about why Wildrider and Breakdown are (forced to have) the same base mold.

Why? We know what he'll say, it was easier for the feet and more cost-effective. There's no mystery to solve here.

At least some acknowledgement of a possible dedicated Breakdown mold in the original plan?

What is the value of having that? "If they release a new mold Breakdown in two years I'll be mad, if they planned for a new mold but cheaped out I'll be mad..." We could all just, like, not be mad? Or just choose to be mad regardless of what's happening, I don't understand why it's worth the trouble to worry about at this point.

Mark will probably bring it up in his Instagram designer notes, anyway.

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

AcademyofDrX wrote:

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:

AcademyofDrX wrote:

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Looks like we're gonna have to ask Mark about why Wildrider and Breakdown are (forced to have) the same base mold.

Why? We know what he'll say, it was easier for the feet and more cost-effective. There's no mystery to solve here.

At least some acknowledgement of a possible dedicated Breakdown mold in the original plan?

What is the value of having that? "If they release a new mold Breakdown in two years I'll be mad, if they planned for a new mold but cheaped out I'll be mad..." We could all just, like, not be mad? Or just choose to be mad regardless of what's happening, I don't understand why it's worth the trouble to worry about at this point.

Mark will probably bring it up in his Instagram designer notes, anyway.

And an explanation goes a long way. Not that everyone will accept that, but that's on them.

AcademyofDrX wrote:(...) Plus while people here are dissatisfied, this has prompted a full-blown flamewar at other sites, and hopefully we can avoid that.

Overcracker wrote:If Takara decides to make a new Breakdown a year form now and Hasbro decides the also want to release it 2 years from now, and that BreakDown is better than this one because it at least looks more like BreakDown is kind of a cheap tactic.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:I'm annoyed at Breakdown's spoiler, myself. Both it being 1-piece and thus needing to detach for transformation, and it needing to detach if you want to mount the guns. They couldn't have set it up with a tab on one side and a slot on the other (kinda similar to RiD Prowl), to take advantage of the tabs and slots his guns use to combine?

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:

Overcracker wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

Overcracker wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

Overcracker wrote:Looks better with the spoiler, but he's still basically just a white Wild Rider. Really lazy way to end the set. But as there's no other way to compete the set, so one must buy it.

I will be supper annoyed if they release Ana ctual Breakdown later with a completely new car shell, like they did with CW members.

You do understand that wildrider from combiner wars was literally deadend with a new head right?

How was that more accepting than this a figure that has a new rear car, spoiler, guns torso and head.

The combiners wars version legit didn’t look anything like wildrider aside from his head and you folks are treating it as if hasbro gave you what you wanted. You got two limbs that were identical in alt mode. That’s not what you’re getting here

I mean things like Blastoff. Were we got an actual Blastoff later. Not repaints of the same. mold in basically the same line with a wave difference.

Oh please let’s not pretend that takara blastoff pulls off the shuttle mode at all and has decent proportions. He was a box with wings. His arms hung off the side his chest was ridiculous unless you configured him how hasbro chose to he has thrusters for hands and his deco wasn’t right plus he did the thing this fandom things is taboo and parts formed. Takara! Takara the company that can’t do wrong did that by themselves! If anything hasbro at least took the mold and decoed it better and for cheaper

Not the point. Whether Blastoff was good or bad is not relevant. The fact it exists in addition to the jet blastoff, and would have been a better option form the get go is the point.

If Takara decides to make a new Breakdown a year form now and Hasbro decides the also want to release it 2 years from now, and that BreakDown is better than this one because it at least looks more like BreakDown is kind of a cheap tactic.

I don't think any of the other stunt icons are bad. I did not criticize them for what they did. I just think making Breakdown the same mold as Wild Rider after all the ingenious engineering and design of the other figures was lazy.

Would you be o.k if they just repainted DragStrip brown and called him Dead End? We got a distinct mold for Dead End even though they both do the same thing to combine with Menasor. Would retooling the front to look more like a Lambo be too much to ask for?

Looks like we're gonna have to ask Mark about why Wildrider and Breakdown are (forced to have) the same base mold.

BLIX007 wrote: Cant wait to see what corners they cut on SS86 Snarl and Swoop. So disappointing.

Till-all-R1 wrote:I'm curios if they will also make Offroad or Blackjack at some point that can also connect to Menesor?

Overcracker wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

Overcracker wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

Overcracker wrote:Looks better with the spoiler, but he's still basically just a white Wild Rider. Really lazy way to end the set. But as there's no other way to compete the set, so one must buy it.

I will be supper annoyed if they release Ana ctual Breakdown later with a completely new car shell, like they did with CW members.

You do understand that wildrider from combiner wars was literally deadend with a new head right?

How was that more accepting than this a figure that has a new rear car, spoiler, guns torso and head.

The combiners wars version legit didn’t look anything like wildrider aside from his head and you folks are treating it as if hasbro gave you what you wanted. You got two limbs that were identical in alt mode. That’s not what you’re getting here

I mean things like Blastoff. Were we got an actual Blastoff later. Not repaints of the same. mold in basically the same line with a wave difference.

Oh please let’s not pretend that takara blastoff pulls off the shuttle mode at all and has decent proportions. He was a box with wings. His arms hung off the side his chest was ridiculous unless you configured him how hasbro chose to he has thrusters for hands and his deco wasn’t right plus he did the thing this fandom things is taboo and parts formed. Takara! Takara the company that can’t do wrong did that by themselves! If anything hasbro at least took the mold and decoed it better and for cheaper

Not the point. Whether Blastoff was good or bad is not relevant. The fact it exists in addition to the jet blastoff, and would have been a better option form the get go is the point.

If Takara decides to make a new Breakdown a year form now and Hasbro decides the also want to release it 2 years from now, and that BreakDown is better than this one because it at least looks more like BreakDown is kind of a cheap tactic.

I don't think any of the other stunt icons are bad. I did not criticize them for what they did. I just think making Breakdown the same mold as Wild Rider after all the ingenious engineering and design of the other figures was lazy.

Would you be o.k if they just repainted DragStrip brown and called him Dead End? We got a distinct mold for Dead End even though they both do the same thing to combine with Menasor. Would retooling the front to look more like a Lambo be too much to ask for?

Dr. Caelus wrote:I also feel like a more accurate Breakdown would not have made the people at Lambourghini happy. Obviously we've had a few licensed lambos in the past few years, but I'm sure that digs into the budget each time.