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Leaked Images of G1 Decepticon Cartoon Three Pack Appear

Transformers News: Leaked Images of G1 Decepticon Cartoon Three Pack Appear

Wednesday, October 4th, 2023 7:56AM CDT

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Straight off the Nemesis command bridge we've got our first look at what appears to be an upcoming reveal from Takara Tomy. Images posted to our Energon Pub forums by Seibertronian Sowndwave76 show what seems to be a three pack of War For Cybertron series Siege Shockwave (possibly without extra parts), Earthrise Megatron and the once exclusive Netflix Soundwave with Laserbeak. with such a blurry image it's hard to gleam too much else, but we can see Shockwave's "barrel" is gray now and the image refers to Megatron as having a brushed metal finish. The set also comes with the same "Nemesis Captain's Seat" (as the image calls it) as the one that came with Studio Series Leader Starscream.

We shouldn't have to wait too long for a better look as Takara Tomy appears to be preparing to reveal several figures at the end of this week (10/6 in Japan) including MP Rhinox and Legacy United Silverbolt.

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Re: Leaked Images of G1 Decepticon Cartoon Three Pack Appear (2170907)
Posted by Munkky on October 4th, 2023 @ 10:00am CDT
While I've been seeing a lot of hate for this set on other sites, I may actually buy it. I don't hate the Earthrise Megatron mould as much as everyone else does, and I sold my Siege Shockwave and Netflix Soundwave on Ebay a while ago and I wouldn't mind having those two again. I think it's good that Shockwave doesn't come with all that extra stuff the Siege version had, less stuff to put in my weapons/accessories tub, and I skipped Coronation Starscream so I've never had that throne accessory before. The lack of Ravage doesn't bother me too much because I was never keen on that Siege/Netflix version.
Re: Leaked Images of G1 Decepticon Cartoon Three Pack Appear (2170909)
Posted by AcademyofDrX on October 4th, 2023 @ 10:05am CDT
Munkky wrote:While I've been seeing a lot of hate for this set on other sites, I may actually buy it. I don't hate the Earthrise Megatron mould as much as everyone else does, and I sold my Siege Shockwave and Netflix Soundwave on Ebay a while ago and I wouldn't mind having those two again. I think it's good that Shockwave doesn't come with all that extra stuff the Siege version had, less stuff to put in my weapons/accessories tub, and I skipped Coronation Starscream so I've never had that throne accessory before. The lack of Ravage doesn't bother me too much because I was never keen on that Siege/Netflix version.

If you literally don't have any of the figures or the throne, then it should be a really good pickup. I think one of the main complaints is that so many people have at least a couple of these things already.
Re: Leaked Images of G1 Decepticon Cartoon Three Pack Appear (2170911)
Posted by Rtron on October 4th, 2023 @ 10:15am CDT
AcademyofDrX wrote:
Munkky wrote:While I've been seeing a lot of hate for this set on other sites, I may actually buy it. I don't hate the Earthrise Megatron mould as much as everyone else does, and I sold my Siege Shockwave and Netflix Soundwave on Ebay a while ago and I wouldn't mind having those two again. I think it's good that Shockwave doesn't come with all that extra stuff the Siege version had, less stuff to put in my weapons/accessories tub, and I skipped Coronation Starscream so I've never had that throne accessory before. The lack of Ravage doesn't bother me too much because I was never keen on that Siege/Netflix version.

If you literally don't have any of the figures or the throne, then it should be a really good pickup. I think one of the main complaints is that so many people have at least a couple of these things already.


There's another angle too: two of these guys might get new figures this year.
Re: Leaked Images of G1 Decepticon Cartoon Three Pack Appear (2170913)
Posted by DeathReviews on October 4th, 2023 @ 10:20am CDT
Munkky wrote:While I've been seeing a lot of hate for this set on other sites, I may actually buy it. I don't hate the Earthrise Megatron mould as much as everyone else does, and I sold my Siege Shockwave and Netflix Soundwave on Ebay a while ago and I wouldn't mind having those two again. I think it's good that Shockwave doesn't come with all that extra stuff the Siege version had, less stuff to put in my weapons/accessories tub, and I skipped Coronation Starscream so I've never had that throne accessory before. The lack of Ravage doesn't bother me too much because I was never keen on that Siege/Netflix version.


I agree on almost all those points. ER Megatron was a rare find, but I did kind of want a 'clean' version without the silver splattering. I also kind of hope they put the Siege Megatron head on to replace the ER one. That head looked kind of derpy.

Siege Shockwave was neat - but I frankly never cared for the 'octo' arms, and again, the silver splatters are just distracting. So a cleaner version without all the clutter would be nice. The only thing that might put me off would be that I'm perfectly content with Netflix Soundwave, so getting a second one doesn't really appeal. Hopefully these come to Hasbro Pulse at some point, with an option to buy each one separately....
Re: Leaked Images of G1 Decepticon Cartoon Three Pack Appear (2170936)
Posted by Till-all-R1 on October 4th, 2023 @ 12:28pm CDT
I've no use for an over priced 3-pk full of reuse I already have, have Megs and the Throne and Siege Shockwave is sufficient. While I'd like to get a proper G1 cassette player Soundwave, this really isn't it in the sense of recently redone Iron Hide/Ratchet. As well as Blaster. And even if he was new I'd still struggle to buying into the set due to the other two I already have. lol
Re: Leaked Images of G1 Decepticon Cartoon Three Pack Appear (2170939)
Posted by Emerje on October 4th, 2023 @ 1:21pm CDT
I'm probably going to get this set. I think this Shockwave looks better with the gray front in alt mode, Megatron will probably look better than the ER figure if they do the brushed metal effect well, and my Netflix Soundwave can't transform because one of the hip pins was misaligned so he can't do a split.

What I'm really curious about is how they intend to label it. Premium Finish? Legacy? With a 40th Anniversary label for sure. And there must be an Autobot counterpart, right?

Emerje
Re: Leaked Images of G1 Decepticon Cartoon Three Pack Appear (2170943)
Posted by Nemesis Destron on October 4th, 2023 @ 1:39pm CDT
Yeah I feel I will pick up this set. I will wait until the final images are posted so I can make a final decision...'nuff said! >:oP :VEHI:
Re: Leaked Images of G1 Decepticon Cartoon Three Pack Appear (2170952)
Posted by Overcracker on October 4th, 2023 @ 4:06pm CDT
Emerje wrote:I'm probably going to get this set. I think this Shockwave looks better with the gray front in alt mode, Megatron will probably look better than the ER figure if they do the brushed metal effect well, and my Netflix Soundwave can't transform because one of the hip pins was misaligned so he can't do a split.

What I'm really curious about is how they intend to label it. Premium Finish? Legacy? With a 40th Anniversary label for sure. And there must be an Autobot counterpart, right?

Emerje


If this is a 40th anniversary set, then yes one could expect an Autobot pack as well. Though what accessory would you throw in in place of the chair?

Or do you go for just Leader Prime and Trailer and 2 deluxes? Prowl and Bumblebee or Sideswipe and Bumblebee ? There's definitely gonna be a Bumblebee in that set right?
Or Kingdom Magnus's inner robot in prime colors, no trailer, Bumblebee + 3 deluxes and some accessories from the Centurion set?

I may be be tempted if this is around $120 bucks or less.
Re: Leaked Images of G1 Decepticon Cartoon Three Pack Appear (2170976)
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on October 4th, 2023 @ 5:35pm CDT
Emerje wrote:
AcademyofDrX wrote:I guess it's possible this company is an elaborate front.

I never said mold release agents don't exist, I said liquid agents aren't used in commercial injection molding. There's other kinds of molding that do use them like silicon molds and casting, but not injection molding. Just imagine all the imperfections on parts that would be left behind by pockets of liquid getting squeezed into crevices as hot plastic is pumped into the mold.

The one product they say can be used for injection molding they claim has to be cured first and non-transferring, certainly not a "release fluid" that has to be washed off and is going to turn into dry fuzz.

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See the first one again. Cured to the mold, non-transfering, doesn't need to be washed off. Definitely not a liquid that's going to cause fuzz on plastic.

I'm not wrong.

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1. Sorry, but you ARE wrong. At least in treating non-transferrence as a universal thing. Some mold release agents used in injection molding CAN leave residue on the plastic; this is a known annoyance to model kit builders. I learned about it in the model train world, where I was told certain kits were best cleaned off before trying to paint. It's typically just a slick film, but it can build up like soap scum in particularly egregious cases. When people weighed in that that's what the problem with Nacelle actually was, I was inclined to trust them because A. it was a thing I knew existed c/o experts and B. I deeply mistrust it when the fandom cries "The sky is falling"
2. That being said, the "dry fuzz" description is comcerning. All the reporting I'd seen, it appeared to more of a scum.

Regarding other news:
Happy about Magmatron, annoyed at Tidal Wave and hoping it's somehow not too late for them to either A. Leave the combining to a separate Leader-class figure so that people don't have to buy a bulky $200 toy just to get quasi-combining (and the Titan doesn't have to deal with trying to hide or else seamlessly integrate smaller copies of its boat components) or B. Scrap Titan TW in favor of Leader TW and give the Titan spot to someone else (Like Gigastorm, or maybe Energon OS. My misgivings about such have diminished a bit). Tigerhawk could be fun, but the original might be preferable.
The rock monsters: ...Okay I guess? Neat, but given last year I was hoping these would turn out to be Autobot Pretenders.
Open-window boxes on leaders is a stupid idea that will cost Hasbro dearly if followed through. The Putzwing refresh didn't shelfwarm because of the closed box, it shelfwarmed because 1. Insufficient demand for Putzwing (literally every other LE Leader has shifted readily) and 2. Demand for all figures is being negatively impacted by current prices.

I saw talk of "Leader Soundwave" on a prior page. There are two ways that makws sense: One is them pulling a Coronation Starscream and issuing him with extra stuff (like some of the cassettes), the other is if it's Machine Wars Soundwave from ER Doubledealer (who has yet to be milked).
Speaking of ER Doubledealer, I think the Putzwing refresh should have been split with a refresh of him (alternating between cases).

Now, some questions.
1. Has anyone ever found Legacy Armada Optimus at physical retail in the USA?
2. Do Skyquake and Dragon Megs have full shoulder rotation?
Re: Leaked Images of G1 Decepticon Cartoon Three Pack Appear (2170994)
Posted by Emerje on October 4th, 2023 @ 8:42pm CDT
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:1. Sorry, but you ARE wrong. At least in treating non-transferrence as a universal thing. Some mold release agents used in injection molding CAN leave residue on the plastic; this is a known annoyance to model kit builders. I learned about it in the model train world, where I was told certain kits were best cleaned off before trying to paint. It's typically just a slick film, but it can build up like soap scum in particularly egregious cases. When people weighed in that that's what the problem with Nacelle actually was, I was inclined to trust them because A. it was a thing I knew existed c/o experts and B. I deeply mistrust it when the fandom cries "The sky is falling"

I mentioned this before. That residue isn't necessarily mold release but simply a build up caused by injecting melted plastic into a mold. Plastic is oil based, when it's melted there's going to be some oils released, if it's softer plastic there's going to be plasticizer leakage. Those companies linked to above call their release agents "semi-permanent", they wear down over thousands of uses, the amounts that appear on plastic would be trace at best and a far cry from the claims of the fuzz being a "mold release fluid" that needs to be washed off as part of the production process, that just doesn't exist in commercial injection molding.

My own Nacelle has tiny bits of fuzz on different parts, not just the wings but also the left shoulder and right hip.

Emerje
Re: Leaked Images of G1 Decepticon Cartoon Three Pack Appear (2170999)
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on October 4th, 2023 @ 9:04pm CDT
Emerje wrote:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:1. Sorry, but you ARE wrong. At least in treating non-transferrence as a universal thing. Some mold release agents used in injection molding CAN leave residue on the plastic; this is a known annoyance to model kit builders. I learned about it in the model train world, where I was told certain kits were best cleaned off before trying to paint. It's typically just a slick film, but it can build up like soap scum in particularly egregious cases. When people weighed in that that's what the problem with Nacelle actually was, I was inclined to trust them because A. it was a thing I knew existed c/o experts and B. I deeply mistrust it when the fandom cries "The sky is falling"

I mentioned this before. That residue isn't necessarily mold release but simply a build up caused by injecting melted plastic into a mold. Plastic is oil based, when it's melted there's going to be some oils released, if it's softer plastic there's going to be plasticizer leakage. Those companies linked to above call their release agents "semi-permanent", they wear down over thousands of uses, the amounts that appear on plastic would be trace at best and a far cry from the claims of the fuzz being a "mold release fluid" that needs to be washed off as part of the production process, that just doesn't exist in commercial injection molding.
1. Those companies aren't everybody; just because they use semi-permanent stuff doesn't mean everybody does (or that that's how it was always done). And plastic model kits are, in fact, commercial injection molding. It might not actually be what's the case here, given some of the new information I've seen from you, but unless multiple veteran hobbyists have been wrongly informed for decades... mold release residue is a thing.
2. Again, everything I had seen prior to this point made the buildup on Nacelle figures appear to be more of a scum than a fuzz. Which had me inclined to agree with the "mold release residue" analysis.

Emerje wrote:My own Nacelle has tiny bits of fuzz on different parts, not just the wings but also the left shoulder and right hip.

Emerje
Take photos. Then scrape some off into a jar or plastic bag along with a bit of paper and seal it, and keep it under observation; see if it grows or withers (or if it does nothing). And bleach-wipe the rest off of your Nacelle. That should deal with it, whatever it is.
Re: Leaked Images of G1 Decepticon Cartoon Three Pack Appear (2171005)
Posted by Sabrblade on October 4th, 2023 @ 11:29pm CDT
Emerje wrote:What I'm really curious about is how they intend to label it. Premium Finish? Legacy?
And the answer is... neither of those!

It's a new separate line titled "Dramatic Capture Series".
Re: Leaked Images of G1 Decepticon Cartoon Three Pack Appear (2171047)
Posted by Emerje on October 5th, 2023 @ 8:19am CDT
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:1. Those companies aren't everybody; just because they use semi-permanent stuff doesn't mean everybody does (or that that's how it was always done). And plastic model kits are, in fact, commercial injection molding. It might not actually be what's the case here, given some of the new information I've seen from you, but unless multiple veteran hobbyists have been wrongly informed for decades... mold release residue is a thing.
2. Again, everything I had seen prior to this point made the buildup on Nacelle figures appear to be more of a scum than a fuzz. Which had me inclined to agree with the "mold release residue" analysis.

You're right, I shouldn't generalize, but I did provide several videos out of the dozens I've watched, two of which were from Bandai Gunpla factories. Not just toys, but also things like buckets, bottle caps and even one piece lawn chairs. The process moves too quickly for a liquid mold release fluid to be in use and to me it doesn't make sense to introduce anything to the mold other than the plastic out of risk of errors, it's bad enough they're contending with trapped air. Maybe at one time a liquid was used and that information has been handed down over the years, but it seems incredibly inefficient in modern molding where they have to pump out tens if not hundreds of thousands of runners a day. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think the "semi-permanent" release is sort of like Teflon, a non-stick coating that slowly loses a microscopic layer with every use. The Archon video I shared shows the kind of wear the molds go through.

Take photos. Then scrape some off into a jar or plastic bag along with a bit of paper and seal it, and keep it under observation; see if it grows or withers (or if it does nothing). And bleach-wipe the rest off of your Nacelle. That should deal with it, whatever it is.

In my case it's literally a few spots that I noticed, not really enough to scrape off as a sample. I did take pictures I wanted to hold on to incase this came up again. It's not terribly exciting, I'll admit.

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The last image of the shoulder was originally more substantial, sticking up out of the groove, it was filling that spot on the groove. I brushed over it with my finger nail to see if it would come loose, maybe some stray cardboard fibers, but it broke up instead, that's when I decided to take photos.

Emerje
Re: Leaked Images of G1 Decepticon Cartoon Three Pack Appear (2171048)
Posted by Emerje on October 5th, 2023 @ 8:31am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:
Emerje wrote:What I'm really curious about is how they intend to label it. Premium Finish? Legacy?
And the answer is... neither of those!

It's a new separate line titled "Dramatic Capture Series".

I'm guessing it's "capture" as in screen capture? Was there a scene with these three together on the Nemesis? I can't recall one.

Emerje
Re: Leaked Images of G1 Decepticon Cartoon Three Pack Appear (2171068)
Posted by Sabrblade on October 5th, 2023 @ 10:22am CDT
Emerje wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Emerje wrote:What I'm really curious about is how they intend to label it. Premium Finish? Legacy?
And the answer is... neither of those!

It's a new separate line titled "Dramatic Capture Series".

I'm guessing it's "capture" as in screen capture? Was there a scene with these three together on the Nemesis? I can't recall one.

Emerje
I agree that's what they mean by "capture", but no there was no scene of the three of them on the Nemesis in the G1 cartoon, since the interior of that ship was only ever seen in the first episode right before the Decepticons boarded the Ark. In this case, "Dramatic Capture" probably refers to a more general definition of we, the consumers, getting to create our own diorama scenes with these sets.

We'll just have to wait until tomorrow (or possibly later today since Japan is ahead of the West by a good number of hours) for the official reveal.
Re: Leaked Images of G1 Decepticon Cartoon Three Pack Appear (2171083)
Posted by Sabrblade on October 5th, 2023 @ 11:26am CDT
Legacy United Silverbolt official reveal.

https://hobby.dengeki.com/news/2102405/

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Re: Leaked Images of G1 Decepticon Cartoon Three Pack Appear (2171084)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on October 5th, 2023 @ 11:33am CDT
Looking good!
Re: Leaked Images of G1 Decepticon Cartoon Three Pack Appear (2171091)
Posted by william-james88 on October 5th, 2023 @ 12:23pm CDT
Takara has its big reveal day today, and that includes their next figures in Legacy, Beast Wars vs and the reveal of the new Dramatic Capture Series.

For Legacy, we have Silverbolt, which will be released as part of wave 2 in Legacy United. However, it is unclear if the deco we see is exclusive to Takara or if Hasbro's release will be identical.

For Beast Wars Vs we have Ghost Starscream and Waspinator two pack which has an MSRP of around $60 (so the same prices as a deluxe and voyager these days in the US).

Finally for the Dramatic Capture Series we have the box set of Decepticons in premium deco with throne. The MSRP is around the $110 mark.

None of these seem to be exclusive, so they will wind up on Amazon Japan with discounts, which will help make up for the added shipping cost. All are set of a March 2024 release.

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Re: Leaked Images of G1 Decepticon Cartoon Three Pack Appear (2171097)
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on October 5th, 2023 @ 12:40pm CDT
Ghost Starscream. Oh, yes. Waspinator ... I already have you. I wonder how much this set will wind up being? Because Ghost Screamer is tempting.

I guess this is the chance to grab Soundy for those who've missed out. Tough being packed with ER Megatron, though. Not only was Siege everywhere, but this Megatron has that terrible sworn/gun thing. At least Shockwave is pretty good. I don't think he really needed those extra bits. I wonder if this version will be prone to yellowing too.
Re: Leaked Images of G1 Decepticon Cartoon Three Pack Appear (2171099)
Posted by Overcracker on October 5th, 2023 @ 12:48pm CDT
Silverbolt is looking good.

The shoulders in flying wolf mode are kind of awkwardly placed, but other than that he looks great.

So yeah, definitely pre-ordering him.


The Beastwars set is very temping. Love me some shiny painted Waspinator and Ghost SS looks fantastic.
SS is using the coronation retool, with the awkward articulated fingers. But gets a new frowning face sculpt different to Earthrise and SS, and also apparently different from Skywarp's screaming face.


The only reason to get the Decepticon set, is the Netflix Soundwave. I forsee a ton of loose Megatrons, Shockwaves and chairs on Ebay in the future.
Re: Leaked Images of G1 Decepticon Cartoon Three Pack Appear (2171100)
Posted by william-james88 on October 5th, 2023 @ 12:54pm CDT
Gauntlet101010 wrote:Ghost Starscream. Oh, yes. Waspinator ... I already have you. I wonder how much this set will wind up being? Because Ghost Screamer is tempting.

I guess this is the chance to grab Soundy for those who've missed out. Tough being packed with ER Megatron, though. Not only was Siege everywhere, but this Megatron has that terrible sworn/gun thing. At least Shockwave is pretty good. I don't think he really needed those extra bits. I wonder if this version will be prone to yellowing too.


The prices are all standard retail, due to the high value of the American dollar right now
Re: Leaked Images of G1 Decepticon Cartoon Three Pack Appear (2171104)
Posted by Razorbeast88 on October 5th, 2023 @ 1:04pm CDT
I like Silverbolt
I wouldve appreciate something different about the upper arms in bot mode to look cleaner but im guessing it's show accurate to have the doggy paws up there
Re: Leaked Images of G1 Decepticon Cartoon Three Pack Appear (2171106)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on October 5th, 2023 @ 1:14pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:The prices are all standard retail, due to the high value of the American dollar right now


Shipping will be unavoidable.

Regardless, I'm really tempted to get the Waspinator and Ghost Screamer pack.
Wasp look great and I'm curious to see if that all clear Screamers will have SOLID joints instead of clear ones?
Re: Leaked Images of G1 Decepticon Cartoon Three Pack Appear (2171127)
Posted by Stormshot_Prime on October 5th, 2023 @ 4:11pm CDT
I KNEW that somehow, sometime, we’d be getting a new Ghost Starscream. That 2 pack is going to be a MUST for me, unless we get any sudden news of a regular release ghostie screamer.
Re: Leaked Images of G1 Decepticon Cartoon Three Pack Appear (2171135)
Posted by blackeyedprime on October 5th, 2023 @ 4:24pm CDT
I thought Waspinator was going to be clear plastic too. Might pass on it as much as i'd like the Starscream.
Re: Leaked Images of G1 Decepticon Cartoon Three Pack Appear (2171136)
Posted by ZeroWolf on October 5th, 2023 @ 4:25pm CDT
That Silverbolt is looking good! The rest, eh, I can live without.
Re: Leaked Images of G1 Decepticon Cartoon Three Pack Appear (2171140)
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on October 5th, 2023 @ 5:47pm CDT
I look forward to SIEGE Shockwaves being dumped on eBay by people who get the set.

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Armada Megatron looks pretty good, I have to say...

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...Though I definitely find him better with certain modifications made.

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I'm very happy they used this line to give Earthrise Dirge a real release. Glad to have him, he's pretty fun. This is actually my first time having any Earthrise Seekers, and I think it's a lovely mold.

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But I do hope if they do likewise for Ramjet and give us a Thrust restock, they'll switch to the original leg panels or else alter this one. This new leg panel they made for the Coneheads very clearly did not take altmode into account properly - they can't close properly and they block access to the flight stand port. And the limited access to the coneheads probably prevented Hasbro from getting adequate feedback.

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Blitzwing, I've already talked about a bit, but here's some pics. Also some more things of note:
* His ankle tilts don't work too well. At least, the right one doesn't. It's effectively a soft ratchet. The left one moves more freely for some reason.
* More bad design with the gauntlets: I discovered that while the pegs are hopeless, they can attach by slotting onto the arm panels... but the slots are on the same side as the 5mm pegs at the rear of the gauntlets, so the pegs up on the inside where they can conflict with his chest a bit.

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They make neat little drone turrets though.

And then of course there's this guy:
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Definitely every bit the showstopper he should be.

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Not full combiner size, but not too shy of it either.

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It'll be interesting to see how they handle Overload. And specifically, wearing both Overload and Jetfire at once; one of those two will have to come with a replacement backpack for that scenario.

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Action shot to round things out.
Re: Leaked Images of G1 Decepticon Cartoon Three Pack Appear (2171141)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on October 5th, 2023 @ 5:52pm CDT
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:I look forward to SIEGE Shockwaves being dumped on eBay by people who get the set.


Why would they? It's the exact same toy but without the extra bits. Plus, Siege Shockwave is basically worthless because it was over-produced.

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AAaaaaannnnnnnnndddddd eBay proves me wrong. :shock:
Re: Leaked Images of G1 Decepticon Cartoon Three Pack Appear (2171144)
Posted by Brokebot on October 5th, 2023 @ 6:29pm CDT
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:I look forward to SIEGE Shockwaves being dumped on eBay by people who get the set.


Well, that's where my Waspnator is headed if I get the Ghostscream set.
Re: Leaked Images of G1 Decepticon Cartoon Three Pack Appear (2171145)
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on October 5th, 2023 @ 6:35pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:I look forward to SIEGE Shockwaves being dumped on eBay by people who get the set.


Why would they? It's the exact same toy but without the extra bits.
Well, that's just it: since they're the same toy, people who already had SIEGE Shocky would be unlikely to keep both after getting this set. They'd want to unload one or the other (and then there's the people who will be dumping this set's Shockwave because Soundwave was literally the only one they wanted).

-Kanrabat- wrote:Plus, Siege Shockwave is basically worthless because it was over-produced.

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AAaaaaannnnnnnnndddddd eBay proves me wrong. :shock:
Yeeeah. The days of getting SIEGE Shockwave near, at, or below retail on eBay... have sadly ended. But if a bunch of people started unloading them because of this set, that could well change.
Re: Leaked Images of G1 Decepticon Cartoon Three Pack Appear (2171150)
Posted by Sowndwave76 on October 5th, 2023 @ 7:10pm CDT
I’m interested in that Decepticon 3-pack.
Although I still really don’t like the ER Megatron head sculpt…. It’s too small/narrow…. Or I guess the face sculpt should’ve been smaller.
I don’t know that I like the metallic paints on Soundwave.
And with this, I’m completely convinced this character needs a new mold—
for the love of God that stupid-ass landing gear on the forearms and lack of covers…
I mean that’s not the only issue I have with this mold, but for me those forearms are such eyesores.

I never bought Siege Shockwave…
So if I do get this set, I may end up being one who sells off that Megatron.
Re: Leaked Images of G1 Decepticon Cartoon Three Pack Appear (2171198)
Posted by sol magnus on October 6th, 2023 @ 6:00am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:It's possibly also a Japanese exclusive rather than a normal Hasbro item.

Supposedly we;re getting it on Pulse.
Re: Leaked Images of G1 Decepticon Cartoon Three Pack Appear (2171218)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on October 6th, 2023 @ 9:40am CDT
sol magnus wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:It's possibly also a Japanese exclusive rather than a normal Hasbro item.

Supposedly we;re getting it on Pulse.


As usual with most Japanese exclusives.

But for this here Canadian, my only real option is to pre-order from Amazon.jp if it appears over there.

Pulse charge a premium and their shipping costs are ludicrous.
Re: Leaked Images of G1 Decepticon Cartoon Three Pack Appear (2171234)
Posted by Nemesis Destron on October 6th, 2023 @ 12:42pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:I look forward to SIEGE Shockwaves being dumped on eBay by people who get the set.


Why would they? It's the exact same toy but without the extra bits. Plus, Siege Shockwave is basically worthless because it was over-produced.

...

AAaaaaannnnnnnnndddddd eBay proves me wrong. :shock:



I'm actually counting on Megatron from this set being dumped on eBay! :)) :VEHI:
Re: Leaked Images of G1 Decepticon Cartoon Three Pack Appear (2171235)
Posted by Hero Alpha on October 6th, 2023 @ 12:44pm CDT
Sowndwave76 wrote:I’m interested in that Decepticon 3-pack.
Although I still really don’t like the ER Megatron head sculpt…. It’s too small/narrow…. Or I guess the face sculpt should’ve been smaller.
I don’t know that I like the metallic paints on Soundwave.
And with this, I’m completely convinced this character needs a new mold—
for the love of God that stupid-ass landing gear on the forearms and lack of covers…
I mean that’s not the only issue I have with this mold, but for me those forearms are such eyesores.

I never bought Siege Shockwave…
So if I do get this set, I may end up being one who sells off that Megatron.



I agree so much on the need for forearm covers. That, plus no wrist-swivels on a lot of figures, and budget be damned, the extra nickel or even dime it would cost them is not an excuse. The bean counters have gotten out of hand with the hollowness, lack of paint and lack of articulation. Most of these figures could be near perfect with those things. I would bet the designers are frustrated as well. Now the clear plastic on joints or even windows needs to go too, and that may be on the designers. It doesnt look good to see a bunch of kibble crammed in there through the windows. Maybe I am in the minority, but I do not like the clear windows.
Re: Leaked Images of G1 Decepticon Cartoon Three Pack Appear (2171237)
Posted by Hero Alpha on October 6th, 2023 @ 12:44pm CDT
Hero Alpha wrote:
Sowndwave76 wrote:I’m interested in that Decepticon 3-pack.
Although I still really don’t like the ER Megatron head sculpt…. It’s too small/narrow…. Or I guess the face sculpt should’ve been smaller.
I don’t know that I like the metallic paints on Soundwave.
And with this, I’m completely convinced this character needs a new mold—
for the love of God that stupid-ass landing gear on the forearms and lack of covers…
I mean that’s not the only issue I have with this mold, but for me those forearms are such eyesores.

I never bought Siege Shockwave…
So if I do get this set, I may end up being one who sells off that Megatron.



I agree so much on the need for forearm covers. That, plus no wrist-swivels on a lot of figures, and budget be damned, the extra nickel or even dime it would cost them is not an excuse. The bean counters have gotten out of hand with the hollowness, lack of paint and lack of articulation. Most of these figures could be near perfect with those things. I would bet the designers are frustrated as well. Now the clear plastic on joints or even windows needs to go too, and that may be on the designers. It doesnt look good to see a bunch of kibble crammed in there through the windows. Maybe I am in the minority, but I do not like the clear windows.


EDIT: Sorry, I clicked quote instead of edit.
Re: Leaked Images of G1 Decepticon Cartoon Three Pack Appear (2171247)
Posted by Nemesis Destron on October 6th, 2023 @ 1:20pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:
sol magnus wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:It's possibly also a Japanese exclusive rather than a normal Hasbro item.

Supposedly we;re getting it on Pulse.


As usual with most Japanese exclusives.

But for this here Canadian, my only real option is to pre-order from Amazon.jp if it appears over there.

Pulse charge a premium and their shipping costs are ludicrous.



That sounds like some suck ass crap to deal with. I've never ordered from Pulse, is the shipping pretty fair here in the states? :VEHI:
Re: Leaked Images of G1 Decepticon Cartoon Three Pack Appear (2171248)
Posted by Sabrblade on October 6th, 2023 @ 1:22pm CDT
Nemesis Destron wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:
sol magnus wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:It's possibly also a Japanese exclusive rather than a normal Hasbro item.

Supposedly we;re getting it on Pulse.


As usual with most Japanese exclusives.

But for this here Canadian, my only real option is to pre-order from Amazon.jp if it appears over there.

Pulse charge a premium and their shipping costs are ludicrous.



That sounds like some suck ass crap to deal with. I've never ordered from Pulse, is the shipping pretty fair here in the states? :VEHI:
Yes. It's only Canadian shipping that costs extra when ordering from Pulse.
Re: Leaked Images of G1 Decepticon Cartoon Three Pack Appear (2171252)
Posted by Hero Alpha on October 6th, 2023 @ 1:37pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:
Nemesis Destron wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:
sol magnus wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:It's possibly also a Japanese exclusive rather than a normal Hasbro item.

Supposedly we;re getting it on Pulse.


As usual with most Japanese exclusives.

But for this here Canadian, my only real option is to pre-order from Amazon.jp if it appears over there.

Pulse charge a premium and their shipping costs are ludicrous.



That sounds like some suck ass crap to deal with. I've never ordered from Pulse, is the shipping pretty fair here in the states? :VEHI:
Yes. It's only Canadian shipping that costs extra when ordering from Pulse.


Only going on anecdotal evidence from here and a few other places, it seems like :HASBRO: is leaving money on the table. Surely they would make more working out, at least, a discount for Pulse collectors club or whatever its called.
Re: Leaked Images of G1 Decepticon Cartoon Three Pack Appear (2171255)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on October 6th, 2023 @ 1:44pm CDT
Hero Alpha wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Nemesis Destron wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:
sol magnus wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:It's possibly also a Japanese exclusive rather than a normal Hasbro item.

Supposedly we;re getting it on Pulse.


As usual with most Japanese exclusives.

But for this here Canadian, my only real option is to pre-order from Amazon.jp if it appears over there.

Pulse charge a premium and their shipping costs are ludicrous.



That sounds like some suck ass crap to deal with. I've never ordered from Pulse, is the shipping pretty fair here in the states? :VEHI:
Yes. It's only Canadian shipping that costs extra when ordering from Pulse.


Only going on anecdotal evidence from here and a few other places, it seems like :HASBRO: is leaving money on the table. Surely they would make more working out, at least, a discount for Pulse collectors club or whatever its called.

Taking that money and putting it in my pockets to say that only Americans living in continental America can be a Pulse Club member.
Re: Leaked Images of G1 Decepticon Cartoon Three Pack Appear (2171263)
Posted by Nemesis Destron on October 6th, 2023 @ 2:44pm CDT
I'll be looking for sellers looking to part ways with Ghost SS. I need one for my Ghostbusters TFs. :DANCE: :VEHI:
Re: Leaked Images of G1 Decepticon Cartoon Three Pack Appear (2171265)
Posted by Till-all-R1 on October 6th, 2023 @ 2:50pm CDT
Hero Alpha wrote:It doesn't look good to see a bunch of kibble crammed in there through the windows. Maybe I am in the minority, but I do not like the clear windows.

Initially I liked them because, well real windows are clear, not to mention the fact the OG toys had them as well. But I do agree it's a bit of an ugly view inside when all you see are hunks of plastic, so I have come around to the shaded windows more and more. It'd be different if what you saw inside were actually a vehicle's interior but that not likely to happen unless we want to add an extra $5 to the price in addition to body thickness.
Re: Leaked Images of G1 Decepticon Cartoon Three Pack Appear (2171275)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on October 6th, 2023 @ 6:25pm CDT
I finally decided to get Skyquake and Dreadwing.

While my wallet was crying tears of blood, I played with them a bit. The ship does not hold itself very solidly. Just a bit of a shake and it's "breaking up". At least the ships look good and feel dense in hand.

Image

The transformation was easy enough to figure out, but the nosecone connecting onto the waist is not very solid. The overall bots looks very nice at least.

Image

I'll be looking forward a possible Machine Wars Starscream repaint. Or why not a Dai Atlas?

Still, anyone who own these gotta admit. 15 years ago, those two would have been sold as Ultra Class at the very most.
Re: Leaked Images of G1 Decepticon Cartoon Three Pack Appear (2171286)
Posted by Emerje on October 6th, 2023 @ 9:20pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:I look forward to SIEGE Shockwaves being dumped on eBay by people who get the set.


Why would they? It's the exact same toy but without the extra bits. Plus, Siege Shockwave is basically worthless because it was over-produced.

Exact same toy?

Image
Image

If the colors stay like that through to production then it's more of a toy accurate figure than the Siege version. I think the new one is a much better looking figure. It is weird that they're selling this as a cartoon set, but going for toy colors on all 3.

Emerje
Re: Leaked Images of G1 Decepticon Cartoon Three Pack Appear (2171287)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on October 6th, 2023 @ 9:28pm CDT
Emerje wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:I look forward to SIEGE Shockwaves being dumped on eBay by people who get the set.


Why would they? It's the exact same toy but without the extra bits. Plus, Siege Shockwave is basically worthless because it was over-produced.

Exact same toy?

Image
Image

If the colors stay like that through to production then it's more of a toy accurate figure than the Siege version. I think the new one is a much better looking figure. It is weird that they're selling this as a cartoon set, but going for toy colors on all 3.

Emerje


When I said "exact same", I mostly meant mold-wise. It was obvious that the deco would be somewhat different.
Re: Leaked Images of G1 Decepticon Cartoon Three Pack Appear (2171326)
Posted by Razorbeast88 on October 7th, 2023 @ 9:16am CDT
https://www.instagram.com/p/CyFE7GKsG5X ... BiNWFlZA==

Post for magneous is up! Cool that you can give crashbar rock arms
And I like the head sculpt
Re: Leaked Images of G1 Decepticon Cartoon Three Pack Appear (2171346)
Posted by Nemesis Destron on October 7th, 2023 @ 3:07pm CDT



So my LG Windblade WAS my stand in figure but "there can be only one" so I will be picking this up it looks like a great figure indeed...'nuff said! :VEHI:
Re: Leaked Images of G1 Decepticon Cartoon Three Pack Appear (2171369)
Posted by TulioDude on October 7th, 2023 @ 6:37pm CDT
I want to see Silverbolt next to the other Maximals,to see how close is scale.
Re: Leaked Images of G1 Decepticon Cartoon Three Pack Appear (2171372)
Posted by Brokebot on October 7th, 2023 @ 8:34pm CDT
Nemesis Destron wrote:


So my LG Windblade WAS my stand in figure but "there can be only one" so I will be picking this up it looks like a great figure indeed...'nuff said! :VEHI:


Roid-Rage Windblade, the VTOL brick.
Re: Leaked Images of G1 Decepticon Cartoon Three Pack Appear (2171378)
Posted by Emerje on October 7th, 2023 @ 11:39pm CDT
Amazon Japan listings, they haven't been reduced yet:

Dramatic Capture Series, currently $137 USD after shipping: https://www.amazon.co.jp/-/en/gp/produc ... UTF8&psc=1?tag=seibertron00-22&
Beast Wars VS08 Phantom Showdown, currently at $86 USD after shipping: https://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B0C ... UTF8&psc=1?tag=seibertron00-22&

Emerje

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