Leader vs Voyager: Which is the Better Megatron Figure from Transformers: The Last Knight
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In the previous movie toyline, Age of Extinction, the debate was on which was the better Grimlock since he was the only character with two new toys in the collector oriented line in two different classes. However, both were mediocre so it was more of a question of which wasn't as bad. But now with The Last Knight's Megatron, it's the reverse with two really awesome looking toys. But which is best?
I will break it down through categories and pick a winner, based on what I feel and read online from you guys, and then we will all say our preference in the forums. Sound good?
Jet Mode:
The leader definitely wins by having some kibble free wings in jet mode. Having those flame effects in the back is a really nice touch too. it is quite an imposing jet. The back of the jet is also cleaner than the voyager which has the robot shoulders there looking asymmetrical. The fact that the wings on the leader have no kibble underneath them really makes the jet look sleek and adds to the alt mode's distinctiveness from the robot mode. The alt mode of TLK Megatron is a gorgeous jet design and the leader is a better representation of it.
Leader
Voyager
Leader
Voyager
Robot Mode:
This one is a toss up with the leader edging out the voyager by just a bit. The leader has more dedicated parts for the robot mode with the jet kibble relegated to the back and on the arm cannon while the voyager has some fuselage doubling (unconvincingly) as part of the knight skirt and jet wings wrapped around the robot legs. But that also means he has a cleaner back, more alt mode integration (which I can't be mad about) and a cannon that looks fully dedicated to the robot mode. The arms on the voyager are better since the forearms are sleeker. The leader's standard arm pose gives you gorilla arms but you can adjust that with the wrist swivel, which gives you a giant hole and unseemly wide forearms.
Speaking of articulation, both give you a decent range. The leader even has double jointed knees if you use a transformation hinge but after seeing the images below you might not use it for the robot mode. The leader does something else that I did not notice until having him in hand, the sleekness of the torso, as it tapers down, is hampered by the backpack. Meaning that you don't get that nice shape at the midsection and instead it looks like those u convincing Power Rangers zords where they draw a sleeker body on a rectangle and make the collector/child pretend it's not there. Also, the leader ends up with a crotch hole ala MP 10, which the voyager does not have. With all these knocks against the leader, you would think the voyager would win this easily but I really like how good the leader's robot mode looks with the face mask and how clean the robot mode is. Point goes to the leader.
Voyager
Leader
Gimmicks:
The leader clearly has more gimmicks than the voyager. All the voyager has is light piping (eyes and "gills"), which is something absent in the leader figure and actually works well enough on the voyager. You get a cool evil look with it. Now the leader's gimmicks are both its pro and con. Yes, the facemask is really cool but for that to work you end up with a really derpy looking mouth when the mask isn't deployed. You also get a weak spring loaded feature for the front of the jet to come undone and it is as annoying as Leader Optimus' spring loaded swords. Sometimes too much is like not enough and I would rather not get a gimmick than a poorly executed one. The face mask is still cool but the fact that I hesitate to transform the leader just because of how annoying that bit will be means I prefer the voyager for keeping things 100.
Facesculpt:
As just said, the retracted chin on the leader doesn't look good and makes him look more derpy than menacing. Almost reminds me of Sloth from the Goonies. Voyager wins this one.
Voyager
Leader
Paint/Deco:
The voyager wins here by a landslide. Both toys go for a very different look with the silver deco and I fail to understand why. The voyager uses the silver as a way to subtly add to the layering of the armour. Its a nice effect that seems to only work on the naked eye. What is baffling is that the leader uses silver paint to instead give a weathered or battle damaged look. It is blotchy and not uniform and looks random.
Leader
Leader
Leader
Voyager
Arm Cannon:
Oddly enough, I find the voyager's a tad bit too small. It's maybe movie accurate but it doesn't look very threatening. The Leader's is way too big. The fire effect is super cool and I am able to pose him the right way so that the weight is evenly carried across the toy, but it still looks very big. I give both of them major props for avoiding the partsforming route.
In the end, the Voyager wins here but not by much.
Transformation:
This is the big one. I much prefer the Voyager's transformation since I much prefer unfolding panels instead of the panel forming and massaging you have to do with the leader (in the back portion of the jet). There is more of a shell aspect with the leader which the voyager doesn't have since almost every part of the robot mode is reused for the jet mode. Also, the first step they give you for the leader is to transform the nosecone from the cannon which is a terrible idea. It will surely keep getting undone as you keep transforming since it is spring loaded. The voyager is really a joy to convert from one mode to the next. Nothing gets in the way too much and there isn't anything annoying. It is also far more intuitive and there is no need to exert pressure anywhere. My leader already has some stretch marks where the nosecone tabs into the forearms.
While the voyager wins out most of the categories it is still a tough call when the ones the leader wins is when it comes to the best looking modes. In the end, its all about what you want best. If you will be transforming these often, the voyager is the way to go. But if you just want to pose him, the leader works better since he is far more screen accurate. However, you wouldn't be able to pose him with anyone since the only other toy in his scale in this line is the inaccurate Optimus Prime leader. Still, I can't say this pic below isn't awesome and I don't regret getting both.
I will break it down through categories and pick a winner, based on what I feel and read online from you guys, and then we will all say our preference in the forums. Sound good?
Jet Mode:
The leader definitely wins by having some kibble free wings in jet mode. Having those flame effects in the back is a really nice touch too. it is quite an imposing jet. The back of the jet is also cleaner than the voyager which has the robot shoulders there looking asymmetrical. The fact that the wings on the leader have no kibble underneath them really makes the jet look sleek and adds to the alt mode's distinctiveness from the robot mode. The alt mode of TLK Megatron is a gorgeous jet design and the leader is a better representation of it.
Leader
Voyager
Leader
Voyager
Robot Mode:
This one is a toss up with the leader edging out the voyager by just a bit. The leader has more dedicated parts for the robot mode with the jet kibble relegated to the back and on the arm cannon while the voyager has some fuselage doubling (unconvincingly) as part of the knight skirt and jet wings wrapped around the robot legs. But that also means he has a cleaner back, more alt mode integration (which I can't be mad about) and a cannon that looks fully dedicated to the robot mode. The arms on the voyager are better since the forearms are sleeker. The leader's standard arm pose gives you gorilla arms but you can adjust that with the wrist swivel, which gives you a giant hole and unseemly wide forearms.
Speaking of articulation, both give you a decent range. The leader even has double jointed knees if you use a transformation hinge but after seeing the images below you might not use it for the robot mode. The leader does something else that I did not notice until having him in hand, the sleekness of the torso, as it tapers down, is hampered by the backpack. Meaning that you don't get that nice shape at the midsection and instead it looks like those u convincing Power Rangers zords where they draw a sleeker body on a rectangle and make the collector/child pretend it's not there. Also, the leader ends up with a crotch hole ala MP 10, which the voyager does not have. With all these knocks against the leader, you would think the voyager would win this easily but I really like how good the leader's robot mode looks with the face mask and how clean the robot mode is. Point goes to the leader.
Voyager
Leader
Gimmicks:
The leader clearly has more gimmicks than the voyager. All the voyager has is light piping (eyes and "gills"), which is something absent in the leader figure and actually works well enough on the voyager. You get a cool evil look with it. Now the leader's gimmicks are both its pro and con. Yes, the facemask is really cool but for that to work you end up with a really derpy looking mouth when the mask isn't deployed. You also get a weak spring loaded feature for the front of the jet to come undone and it is as annoying as Leader Optimus' spring loaded swords. Sometimes too much is like not enough and I would rather not get a gimmick than a poorly executed one. The face mask is still cool but the fact that I hesitate to transform the leader just because of how annoying that bit will be means I prefer the voyager for keeping things 100.
Facesculpt:
As just said, the retracted chin on the leader doesn't look good and makes him look more derpy than menacing. Almost reminds me of Sloth from the Goonies. Voyager wins this one.
Voyager
Leader
Paint/Deco:
The voyager wins here by a landslide. Both toys go for a very different look with the silver deco and I fail to understand why. The voyager uses the silver as a way to subtly add to the layering of the armour. Its a nice effect that seems to only work on the naked eye. What is baffling is that the leader uses silver paint to instead give a weathered or battle damaged look. It is blotchy and not uniform and looks random.
Leader
Leader
Leader
Voyager
Arm Cannon:
Oddly enough, I find the voyager's a tad bit too small. It's maybe movie accurate but it doesn't look very threatening. The Leader's is way too big. The fire effect is super cool and I am able to pose him the right way so that the weight is evenly carried across the toy, but it still looks very big. I give both of them major props for avoiding the partsforming route.
In the end, the Voyager wins here but not by much.
Transformation:
This is the big one. I much prefer the Voyager's transformation since I much prefer unfolding panels instead of the panel forming and massaging you have to do with the leader (in the back portion of the jet). There is more of a shell aspect with the leader which the voyager doesn't have since almost every part of the robot mode is reused for the jet mode. Also, the first step they give you for the leader is to transform the nosecone from the cannon which is a terrible idea. It will surely keep getting undone as you keep transforming since it is spring loaded. The voyager is really a joy to convert from one mode to the next. Nothing gets in the way too much and there isn't anything annoying. It is also far more intuitive and there is no need to exert pressure anywhere. My leader already has some stretch marks where the nosecone tabs into the forearms.
While the voyager wins out most of the categories it is still a tough call when the ones the leader wins is when it comes to the best looking modes. In the end, its all about what you want best. If you will be transforming these often, the voyager is the way to go. But if you just want to pose him, the leader works better since he is far more screen accurate. However, you wouldn't be able to pose him with anyone since the only other toy in his scale in this line is the inaccurate Optimus Prime leader. Still, I can't say this pic below isn't awesome and I don't regret getting both.
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Re: Leader vs Voyager: Which is the Better Megatron Figure from Transformers: The Last Knight (1904084)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on August 13th, 2017 @ 9:15am CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on August 13th, 2017 @ 9:15am CDT
Nice article, but better edit some pictures. Instead of the voyager, we see some double posts of the leader's pictures.
Still, this make me want to get the leader but only if it's on sale. If not, meh, I'll just miss out.
Still, this make me want to get the leader but only if it's on sale. If not, meh, I'll just miss out.
Re: Leader vs Voyager: Which is the Better Megatron Figure from Transformers: The Last Knight (1904088)
Posted by MrBlack on August 13th, 2017 @ 9:46am CDT
Posted by MrBlack on August 13th, 2017 @ 9:46am CDT
One point I will add is that my Leader Megs has some very wobbly hips, which makes posing him a bit of a chore. That giant arm cannon can throw off his balance in some poses as well. Voyager Megs has much tighter joints.
I agree that Leader Megs is the winner as a display piece though. He's just so big and imposing and that jet mode is amazing. Voyager Megs is the better toy though.
I agree that Leader Megs is the winner as a display piece though. He's just so big and imposing and that jet mode is amazing. Voyager Megs is the better toy though.
Re: Leader vs Voyager: Which is the Better Megatron Figure from Transformers: The Last Knight (1904089)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on August 13th, 2017 @ 10:05am CDT
Posted by Rodimus Prime on August 13th, 2017 @ 10:05am CDT
Thanks, Willy J, I've been looking for an analysis like this if only to help me decide on the Voyager, since I already bought the leader. I have yet to transform him, so I have a question: how does transforming him to jet mode compare to transforming RoTF Jetfire? If you can recall that figure, that is.
Re: Leader vs Voyager: Which is the Better Megatron Figure from Transformers: The Last Knight (1904092)
Posted by dragons on August 13th, 2017 @ 10:13am CDT
Posted by dragons on August 13th, 2017 @ 10:13am CDT
Don't have time patience read everything I look at pictures leader class for me after viewing two reviews on two figures
Re: Leader vs Voyager: Which is the Better Megatron Figure from Transformers: The Last Knight (1904094)
Posted by Cobotron on August 13th, 2017 @ 11:12am CDT
Enjoyable!
Jetfire was a chore. Leader Megs is a breeze in comparison.
Posted by Cobotron on August 13th, 2017 @ 11:12am CDT
If I may, I'd like to answer that.Rodimus Prime wrote: how does transforming him to jet mode compare to transforming RoTF Jetfire?
Enjoyable!
Jetfire was a chore. Leader Megs is a breeze in comparison.
Re: Leader vs Voyager: Which is the Better Megatron Figure from Transformers: The Last Knight (1904099)
Posted by SureShot18 on August 13th, 2017 @ 11:37am CDT
Posted by SureShot18 on August 13th, 2017 @ 11:37am CDT
Nice write-up. I still feel like the Leader is only superior in jet mode. Of course I haven't messed with either of them but I should have the voyager this week if I get him ordered today. But like I said in the 'Tron, you can't go wrong with either of them given the awesomeness of the TLK Megatron design.
Re: Leader vs Voyager: Which is the Better Megatron Figure from Transformers: The Last Knight (1904106)
Posted by william-james88 on August 13th, 2017 @ 12:03pm CDT
Oh I know that figure well. Its very different. Jetfire is a robot under a jet and Megatron is not that since his arms and legs make up part of the actual jet. There are still some panels to conect with Leader Megatron but its notthing compared to the panelforming chore that Jetfire was. Believe it or not, the toy Megatron reminds me more of is ROTF Optimus Prime especially with the spring loaded front.
Posted by william-james88 on August 13th, 2017 @ 12:03pm CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:Thanks, Willy J, I've been looking for an analysis like this if only to help me decide on the Voyager, since I already bought the leader. I have yet to transform him, so I have a question: how does transforming him to jet mode compare to transforming RoTF Jetfire? If you can recall that figure, that is.
Oh I know that figure well. Its very different. Jetfire is a robot under a jet and Megatron is not that since his arms and legs make up part of the actual jet. There are still some panels to conect with Leader Megatron but its notthing compared to the panelforming chore that Jetfire was. Believe it or not, the toy Megatron reminds me more of is ROTF Optimus Prime especially with the spring loaded front.
Re: Leader vs Voyager: Which is the Better Megatron Figure from Transformers: The Last Knight (1904110)
Posted by Evil Eye on August 13th, 2017 @ 1:08pm CDT
Posted by Evil Eye on August 13th, 2017 @ 1:08pm CDT
Yeah I think I'll go Voyager if I get either version of this mold. They both look pretty great though I will say.
Re: Leader vs Voyager: Which is the Better Megatron Figure from Transformers: The Last Knight (1904111)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on August 13th, 2017 @ 1:11pm CDT
I think that that's the underrated beauty of this movie line, that, no matter your budget, you can still get an exceptional rendition of Megatron (I've heard great things about the 'kiddie' versions too), something that no other movie - or normal line, can boast
I have the voyager, and have seen the leader numerous times, I don't regret skipping the leader version for the voyager, it's far superior
Posted by Hellscream9999 on August 13th, 2017 @ 1:11pm CDT
Black Hat wrote:Yeah I think I'll go Voyager if I get either version of this mold. They both look pretty great though I will say.
I think that that's the underrated beauty of this movie line, that, no matter your budget, you can still get an exceptional rendition of Megatron (I've heard great things about the 'kiddie' versions too), something that no other movie - or normal line, can boast
I have the voyager, and have seen the leader numerous times, I don't regret skipping the leader version for the voyager, it's far superior
Re: Leader vs Voyager: Which is the Better Megatron Figure from Transformers: The Last Knight (1904112)
Posted by Evil Eye on August 13th, 2017 @ 1:13pm CDT
Posted by Evil Eye on August 13th, 2017 @ 1:13pm CDT
Yeah, that's one of the genuinely good things about this line, even if there have been some duds. I only own one TLK toy- Barricade (I wanted a Nitro Zeus but I haven't seen him yet, not even at TFNation!) but he's alright. Feels like a 2007 toy in a good way.
Re: Leader vs Voyager: Which is the Better Megatron Figure from Transformers: The Last Knight (1904113)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on August 13th, 2017 @ 1:16pm CDT
Mine can't form his car mode, so, there's that, on the plus side, my vastly superior dotm barricade now has some great accessories
Posted by Hellscream9999 on August 13th, 2017 @ 1:16pm CDT
Black Hat wrote:Yeah, that's one of the genuinely good things about this line, even if there have been some duds. I only own one TLK toy- Barricade (I wanted a Nitro Zeus but I haven't seen him yet, not even at TFNation!) but he's alright. Feels like a 2007 toy in a good way.
Mine can't form his car mode, so, there's that, on the plus side, my vastly superior dotm barricade now has some great accessories
Re: Leader vs Voyager: Which is the Better Megatron Figure from Transformers: The Last Knight (1904117)
Posted by Lunatic Prime on August 13th, 2017 @ 1:25pm CDT
Posted by Lunatic Prime on August 13th, 2017 @ 1:25pm CDT
The Leader's face reminds me more of Jeepers Creepers.
And do you have any clue what the hole in his crotch is for? It's not for transformation as far as I can tell.
And do you have any clue what the hole in his crotch is for? It's not for transformation as far as I can tell.
Here's a big problem for me. I don't like the Voyager's jet mode. So I would have him in robot mode all the time and the easy transformation isn't a plus to me that way. The Leader I love in both modes so I'd like to transform him a lot but it's really annoying.If you will be transforming these often, the voyager is the way to go. But if you just want to pose him, the leader works better since he is far more screen accurate.
I think (and a lot of reviewers, too) that he's pretty much in scale with the other Decepticon mainline figures. And this way also with the Autobot Deluxe class cars.However, you wouldn't be able to pose him with anyone since the only other toy in his scale in this line is the inaccurate Optimus Prime leader.
Re: Leader vs Voyager: Which is the Better Megatron Figure from Transformers: The Last Knight (1904127)
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on August 13th, 2017 @ 1:59pm CDT
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on August 13th, 2017 @ 1:59pm CDT
I still prefer the Voyager in both modes. The leg kibble under the wings of the voyager doesn't bother me as much as I thought it would. It still looks really sleek and I think it gives the overall design more balance. Plus the underside of the jet looks tidier to me too. In robot mode I just can't get past that comically large attempt at a fusion cannon when it clearly looks nothing more than the entire front of the jet. Plus I love how the wings fold in segments around the legs so well you barely even notice they're there. Much more clever than simple swinging down behind the robot mode back.
But anyways yes both are really great Transformers figures but the voyager is my preference (even just for size, cos I don't like Leader class figures unless they're meant to be some extra large brute force character, I prefer my commander types in Voyager class) and I can see why there are leader sized KO's of the Voyager (which even improve on it's forearms with wrist swivels and cover panels). Really though whatever size you prefer ya can't go far wrong with TLK Megs.
But anyways yes both are really great Transformers figures but the voyager is my preference (even just for size, cos I don't like Leader class figures unless they're meant to be some extra large brute force character, I prefer my commander types in Voyager class) and I can see why there are leader sized KO's of the Voyager (which even improve on it's forearms with wrist swivels and cover panels). Really though whatever size you prefer ya can't go far wrong with TLK Megs.
Re: Leader vs Voyager: Which is the Better Megatron Figure from Transformers: The Last Knight (1904128)
Posted by william-james88 on August 13th, 2017 @ 2:01pm CDT
I really don't. I tried posing him with Barricade today to face off against MPM3 BB and AD 31 Leader Optimus and it looked aweful. Barricade looked puny while BB seemed the right height.
Lets look at it this way. We know Prime and Megs are as tall or just about. We know how Bee compared to prime due to their extensive fighting. Its pretty much MPM3 scaled with the latest Leader Prime mold. So if Bee has to be a voyager, then barricade being a deluxe no longer works, right?
You can try it but I find it looks pretty bad. Doesnt this look better?
No clue. Thats why I wanted to point it out and compare it to MP10's crotch hole which also has no purpose aside from being an eyesore.
Posted by william-james88 on August 13th, 2017 @ 2:01pm CDT
Lunatic Prime wrote:I think (and a lot of reviewers, too) that he's pretty much in scale with the other Decepticon mainline figures. And this way also with the Autobot Deluxe class cars.
I really don't. I tried posing him with Barricade today to face off against MPM3 BB and AD 31 Leader Optimus and it looked aweful. Barricade looked puny while BB seemed the right height.
Lets look at it this way. We know Prime and Megs are as tall or just about. We know how Bee compared to prime due to their extensive fighting. Its pretty much MPM3 scaled with the latest Leader Prime mold. So if Bee has to be a voyager, then barricade being a deluxe no longer works, right?
You can try it but I find it looks pretty bad. Doesnt this look better?
Lunatic Prime wrote:And do you have any clue what the hole in his crotch is for? It's not for transformation as far as I can tell.
No clue. Thats why I wanted to point it out and compare it to MP10's crotch hole which also has no purpose aside from being an eyesore.
Re: Leader vs Voyager: Which is the Better Megatron Figure from Transformers: The Last Knight (1904130)
Posted by Cobotron on August 13th, 2017 @ 2:17pm CDT
After inspecting Leader Meg's crotch hole (
) I think it's just a unfortunate byproduct of molding and structural support. The back of that piece is the center of a hinge. The piece of the hinge has to be strong to withstand the riggers of use, so it's double walled. The only way to inject plastic inside the piece is to have a hole there. To build the inner walls the mold has to have an opposing wall to hold the plastic there, and the only way to get that bit of mold separated from the plastic is to leave a hole in the surface. So to summarize, it's structural.
I'd rather have a hole in the molding than a broken hinge.
Posted by Cobotron on August 13th, 2017 @ 2:17pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Lunatic Prime wrote:And do you have any clue what the hole in his crotch is for? It's not for transformation as far as I can tell.
No clue. Thats why I wanted to point it out and compare it to MP10's crotch hole which also has no purpose aside from being an eyesore.
After inspecting Leader Meg's crotch hole (
) I think it's just a unfortunate byproduct of molding and structural support. The back of that piece is the center of a hinge. The piece of the hinge has to be strong to withstand the riggers of use, so it's double walled. The only way to inject plastic inside the piece is to have a hole there. To build the inner walls the mold has to have an opposing wall to hold the plastic there, and the only way to get that bit of mold separated from the plastic is to leave a hole in the surface. So to summarize, it's structural.I'd rather have a hole in the molding than a broken hinge.
Re: Leader vs Voyager: Which is the Better Megatron Figure from Transformers: The Last Knight (1904131)
Posted by Lunatic Prime on August 13th, 2017 @ 2:25pm CDT
It might look better but Megs is a big jet and so he has to tower all of the others. But I know that scale isn't always right with Transformers and mass shifting is usual.
Posted by Lunatic Prime on August 13th, 2017 @ 2:25pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Lunatic Prime wrote:I think (and a lot of reviewers, too) that he's pretty much in scale with the other Decepticon mainline figures. And this way also with the Autobot Deluxe class cars.
I really don't. I tried posing him with Barricade today to face off against MPM3 BB and AD 31 Leader Optimus and it looked aweful. Barricade looked puny while BB seemed the right height.
Lets look at it this way. We know Prime and Megs are as tall or just about. We know how Bee compared to prime due to their extensive fighting. Its pretty much MPM3 scaled with the latest Leader Prime mold. So if Bee has to be a voyager, then barricade being a deluxe no longer works, right?
You can try it but I find it looks pretty bad. Doesnt this look better?
It might look better but Megs is a big jet and so he has to tower all of the others. But I know that scale isn't always right with Transformers and mass shifting is usual.
Re: Leader vs Voyager: Which is the Better Megatron Figure from Transformers: The Last Knight (1904132)
Posted by breacher on August 13th, 2017 @ 2:42pm CDT
Posted by breacher on August 13th, 2017 @ 2:42pm CDT
I'd like to add that chefatron posted a follow-up on crosshairs. The important bits are: Almost all of the problems he had with the original were solved when he returned it to TRU and got another copy.The wheel doesn't pop off anymore, the guns tab into the trench coat much better, the elbow joints aren't as tight, and can now properly align, and it did come with instructions this time. Looks like another case of bad QC. geez, has/tak, your qc department must be pretty bad lately.
Anyway, my thoughts on the figure: Absolutely amazing. One of the best deluxes in the line. I know he's just a remold, but he's an improvement in every way. Movie accurate guns (two of them now), more accurate paint job, more efficient kibble storage, the trench coat used solid plastic now, and looks much better, the shoulders don't get in the way, transformation in more streamlined, and overall, it's just an excellent re-do of an already decent mold. The only thing that bugs me is the (still) lacking paint on the head. Would have looked much better if they used slightly less bright plastic for the face, and painted the goggles dark grey or something. It just looks weird the way it is now.
Anyway, my thoughts on the figure: Absolutely amazing. One of the best deluxes in the line. I know he's just a remold, but he's an improvement in every way. Movie accurate guns (two of them now), more accurate paint job, more efficient kibble storage, the trench coat used solid plastic now, and looks much better, the shoulders don't get in the way, transformation in more streamlined, and overall, it's just an excellent re-do of an already decent mold. The only thing that bugs me is the (still) lacking paint on the head. Would have looked much better if they used slightly less bright plastic for the face, and painted the goggles dark grey or something. It just looks weird the way it is now.
Re: Leader vs Voyager: Which is the Better Megatron Figure from Transformers: The Last Knight (1904155)
Posted by Prime Target on August 13th, 2017 @ 6:12pm CDT
Posted by Prime Target on August 13th, 2017 @ 6:12pm CDT
"One of the least anticipated" I've been wanting this thing since it was announced!
Re: Leader vs Voyager: Which is the Better Megatron Figure from Transformers: The Last Knight (1904162)
Posted by nycPrime on August 13th, 2017 @ 7:58pm CDT
My sentiments exactly. I really only wanted the leader for the killer jet mode. But it'll take up too much space and the scale is off. So I decided to be good and hold off for now. But I'll keep an eye out for deals and if it can be had in the $30s, I'll probably pull the trigger, If not, then so be it.
So I finally ordered the Voyager Megs just now. Well it's actually the 2nd time I've ordered it, but the first one got lost in transit. Last day of HTS 15% off and free ship, so went with it. Gotta say it was tempting to throw in the leader at $43 all in, but didn't give in.
Now come on Walmart, let's get deluxe Hot Rod in stock already! That should be it for me and the movie toys.
Posted by nycPrime on August 13th, 2017 @ 7:58pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:Still, this make me want to get the leader but only if it's on sale. If not, meh, I'll just miss out.
My sentiments exactly. I really only wanted the leader for the killer jet mode. But it'll take up too much space and the scale is off. So I decided to be good and hold off for now. But I'll keep an eye out for deals and if it can be had in the $30s, I'll probably pull the trigger, If not, then so be it.
So I finally ordered the Voyager Megs just now. Well it's actually the 2nd time I've ordered it, but the first one got lost in transit. Last day of HTS 15% off and free ship, so went with it. Gotta say it was tempting to throw in the leader at $43 all in, but didn't give in.
Now come on Walmart, let's get deluxe Hot Rod in stock already! That should be it for me and the movie toys.
Re: Leader vs Voyager: Which is the Better Megatron Figure from Transformers: The Last Knight (1904176)
Posted by MaverickPrime on August 13th, 2017 @ 9:57pm CDT
Posted by MaverickPrime on August 13th, 2017 @ 9:57pm CDT
Will, what do you mean by the crotch hole leader Megs and MP10 have?
Re: Leader vs Voyager: Which is the Better Megatron Figure from Transformers: The Last Knight (1904193)
Posted by william-james88 on August 13th, 2017 @ 10:57pm CDT
I mean that Leader Megatron has a hole around his crotch area...
... and it reminded me of the hole found at a similar area on MP 10
Also guys, you will be seeing a lot of that Leader Megatron, he also comes in the next Leader wave with Dragonstorm. So he will be there until the movie line dies out.
Posted by william-james88 on August 13th, 2017 @ 10:57pm CDT
MaverickPrime wrote:Will, what do you mean by the crotch hole leader Megs and MP10 have?
I mean that Leader Megatron has a hole around his crotch area...
... and it reminded me of the hole found at a similar area on MP 10
Also guys, you will be seeing a lot of that Leader Megatron, he also comes in the next Leader wave with Dragonstorm. So he will be there until the movie line dies out.
Re: Leader vs Voyager: Which is the Better Megatron Figure from Transformers: The Last Knight (1904198)
Posted by nycPrime on August 13th, 2017 @ 11:34pm CDT
Hopefully at a huge discount!
Posted by nycPrime on August 13th, 2017 @ 11:34pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Also guys, you will be seeing a lot of that Leader Megatron, he also comes in the next Leader wave with Dragonstorm. So he will be there until the movie line dies out.
Hopefully at a huge discount!
Re: Leader vs Voyager: Which is the Better Megatron Figure from Transformers: The Last Knight (1904205)
Posted by primalxconvoy on August 14th, 2017 @ 4:06am CDT
Posted by primalxconvoy on August 14th, 2017 @ 4:06am CDT
Re: Leader vs Voyager: Which is the Better Megatron Figure from Transformers: The Last Knight (1904232)
Posted by Rodimus Knight on August 14th, 2017 @ 9:36am CDT
Posted by Rodimus Knight on August 14th, 2017 @ 9:36am CDT
The first Movie figure since the classic Optimus movie version was released that I'll buy.
Although not the best fit perhaps because of the some detailing, but I think this would be a great one for Toyhax to create labels for to make a body for the upcoming Minvera Headmaster release.
Although not the best fit perhaps because of the some detailing, but I think this would be a great one for Toyhax to create labels for to make a body for the upcoming Minvera Headmaster release.
Re: Leader vs Voyager: Which is the Better Megatron Figure from Transformers: The Last Knight (1904257)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 14th, 2017 @ 11:53am CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 14th, 2017 @ 11:53am CDT
Ok, so after playing around with the 3 TLK figures I got Saturday, I have some thoughts of my own to add to Will's review.
First, and most importantly, both voyagers are in my running for Figure of the Year. They are both that good, and the only contender at this point to them is MP Artfire.
Now, we'll start with Hound first, because it's easier. This mold blows the AoE one out of the water. the wheel to feet transformation is brilliant, and the legs overall are great. The fender flipping, the wheel gears, the giant utility belt, it is all brilliant and lots of fun. This Hound is also more his size in comparison to the others. He actually looks like the bulkhead he is supposed to be. The upper body is also far better. The arms on the AoE one were wonky, but this one nails it. The arms the great, the sculpting is great, and there is just enough paint to make the detailing work. The head sculpt is really good too, though its a tossup between the 2 figures over which is better. The TLK one is a lot bigger though, so i like it more. Oh and the removable helmet, nice touch.
The only place he is really lacking is in the weapons. Come on, where is the Gatling gun!
Transformation is great too. It is not finnicky, it is fairly straightforward while still being fairly complex in movement, and the altmode looks great with the weapons wrack installed.
Really great figure, highly recommended.
Now, for the Megatrons. The voyager is overall the "better" figure, but I find the leader to be the more "fun" figure.
the voyager in incredibly intuitive. the transformation is insane and cool and is where this figure to me really stands out. There is nothing finnicky or panicky about this figure's moves. It shifts modes like a RotF figure, it is that good. The robot mode looks awesome, the headsculpt is amazing, and the only bad thing i have to say about the figure is the smallish cannon and a wish for a wrist swivel. that is it. The alt mode is brilliant too, and I love how both figures don't really have a "jet under robot" style. They are a lot like Leader Generations Jetfire: the robot is there, but it is not obvious, and it really blends in with the rest of the jet mode.
The leader is huge man, huge! And heavy! I love the flame effects, the face plate gimmick, and the giant kibble free jet mode. The jet mode may be the best alt mode of any movie jet figure. the robot mode is really cool too, but the transformation is just ever so slightly more nickpicky than the voyager, and the leader's arms are a bit wonky, but it can pull some awesome poses. And I love the giant cannon. I will be able to post some pictures hopefully wednesday so I can show off these figures, because they are both well worth having.
My final verdict: voyager is the best overall figure, leader is the more fun figure overall, both are worth their price and owning. And you should get Hound too. This is the fat ballerina we have been waiting for!
First, and most importantly, both voyagers are in my running for Figure of the Year. They are both that good, and the only contender at this point to them is MP Artfire.
Now, we'll start with Hound first, because it's easier. This mold blows the AoE one out of the water. the wheel to feet transformation is brilliant, and the legs overall are great. The fender flipping, the wheel gears, the giant utility belt, it is all brilliant and lots of fun. This Hound is also more his size in comparison to the others. He actually looks like the bulkhead he is supposed to be. The upper body is also far better. The arms on the AoE one were wonky, but this one nails it. The arms the great, the sculpting is great, and there is just enough paint to make the detailing work. The head sculpt is really good too, though its a tossup between the 2 figures over which is better. The TLK one is a lot bigger though, so i like it more. Oh and the removable helmet, nice touch.
The only place he is really lacking is in the weapons. Come on, where is the Gatling gun!
Transformation is great too. It is not finnicky, it is fairly straightforward while still being fairly complex in movement, and the altmode looks great with the weapons wrack installed.
Really great figure, highly recommended.
Now, for the Megatrons. The voyager is overall the "better" figure, but I find the leader to be the more "fun" figure.
the voyager in incredibly intuitive. the transformation is insane and cool and is where this figure to me really stands out. There is nothing finnicky or panicky about this figure's moves. It shifts modes like a RotF figure, it is that good. The robot mode looks awesome, the headsculpt is amazing, and the only bad thing i have to say about the figure is the smallish cannon and a wish for a wrist swivel. that is it. The alt mode is brilliant too, and I love how both figures don't really have a "jet under robot" style. They are a lot like Leader Generations Jetfire: the robot is there, but it is not obvious, and it really blends in with the rest of the jet mode.
The leader is huge man, huge! And heavy! I love the flame effects, the face plate gimmick, and the giant kibble free jet mode. The jet mode may be the best alt mode of any movie jet figure. the robot mode is really cool too, but the transformation is just ever so slightly more nickpicky than the voyager, and the leader's arms are a bit wonky, but it can pull some awesome poses. And I love the giant cannon. I will be able to post some pictures hopefully wednesday so I can show off these figures, because they are both well worth having.
My final verdict: voyager is the best overall figure, leader is the more fun figure overall, both are worth their price and owning. And you should get Hound too. This is the fat ballerina we have been waiting for!
Re: Leader vs Voyager: Which is the Better Megatron Figure from Transformers: The Last Knight (1904333)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on August 14th, 2017 @ 5:24pm CDT
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on August 14th, 2017 @ 5:24pm CDT
On the side, has there ever been a confirmation about the exclusivity of the Reveal the Shield subline? From the looks of it it's partially shared, as I've spotted the One-Step set at a local Target... but the DotM Voyager redeco I spotted at TRU, sticker and all.
Re: Leader vs Voyager: Which is the Better Megatron Figure from Transformers: The Last Knight (1904344)
Posted by william-james88 on August 14th, 2017 @ 7:04pm CDT
There was never any specified exclusive retailer for the entire line. Target was presumed by process of elimination.
Posted by william-james88 on August 14th, 2017 @ 7:04pm CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:On the side, has there ever been a confirmation about the exclusivity of the Reveal the Shield subline? From the looks of it it's partially shared, as I've spotted the One-Step set at a local Target... but the DotM Voyager redeco I spotted at TRU, sticker and all.
There was never any specified exclusive retailer for the entire line. Target was presumed by process of elimination.
Re: Leader vs Voyager: Which is the Better Megatron Figure from Transformers: The Last Knight (1904365)
Posted by EunuchRon on August 14th, 2017 @ 9:16pm CDT
Posted by EunuchRon on August 14th, 2017 @ 9:16pm CDT
I know it ain't a hundred percent movie accurate, but I look at the big jet nose on the arm for Leader Megs as being a big shield. I mean he's got that big sword axe thing, and Prime's got a shield with a gun in it, so why not Megs? It's like the tank turret on ROTF Megs. Only gripe I got is no waist swivel, and what is up with those weak hips? Awesome in every other way though!
Re: Leader vs Voyager: Which is the Better Megatron Figure from Transformers: The Last Knight (1904375)
Posted by nycPrime on August 14th, 2017 @ 10:34pm CDT
Posted by nycPrime on August 14th, 2017 @ 10:34pm CDT
So I'm not very familiar with the TLK line of toys. Why is the voyager optimus so hard to find? I saw that it was in wave 1 with Grimlock, and my local TRU had almost 10 Grimlocks. I don't even see a good option of getting it online unless I buy it with Grimlock from BBTS. Any chance this will become readily available again, either online or in stores?
Re: Leader vs Voyager: Which is the Better Megatron Figure from Transformers: The Last Knight (1904378)
Posted by Sabrblade on August 14th, 2017 @ 10:37pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on August 14th, 2017 @ 10:37pm CDT
Simple. Optimus Prime sells, while nobody wants that AOE Grimlock mold, so Prime flies off the shelves while unsold Grimlock pile up.nycPrime wrote:So I'm not very familiar with the TLK line of toys. Why is the voyager optimus so hard to find?
Re: Leader vs Voyager: Which is the Better Megatron Figure from Transformers: The Last Knight (1904383)
Posted by nycPrime on August 14th, 2017 @ 10:46pm CDT
Posted by nycPrime on August 14th, 2017 @ 10:46pm CDT
Yea figured that was the answer. Any insight on if there may be more available down the line, especially given the popularity of the figure?
Re: Leader vs Voyager: Which is the Better Megatron Figure from Transformers: The Last Knight (1904384)
Posted by Sabrblade on August 14th, 2017 @ 10:47pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on August 14th, 2017 @ 10:47pm CDT
The SDCC one is, amazingly, still for sale on HTS.nycPrime wrote:Yea figured that was the answer. Any insight on if there may be more available down the line, especially given the popularity of the figure?
Re: Leader vs Voyager: Which is the Better Megatron Figure from Transformers: The Last Knight (1904386)
Posted by nycPrime on August 14th, 2017 @ 10:50pm CDT
LoL thought about it when I ordered Primitive OP but didn't feel like dropping 50 on a voyager. After tax and shipping, I'm better off with the 2 pack from BBTS. But then I'd be stuck with Grimlock.
Posted by nycPrime on August 14th, 2017 @ 10:50pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:The SDCC one is, amazingly, still for sale on HTS.nycPrime wrote:Yea figured that was the answer. Any insight on if there may be more available down the line, especially given the popularity of the figure?
LoL thought about it when I ordered Primitive OP but didn't feel like dropping 50 on a voyager. After tax and shipping, I'm better off with the 2 pack from BBTS. But then I'd be stuck with Grimlock.
Re: Leader vs Voyager: Which is the Better Megatron Figure from Transformers: The Last Knight (1904389)
Posted by william-james88 on August 14th, 2017 @ 10:55pm CDT
Is he really sold out everywhere you looked? Including Tru, target and Walmart? I still see him myself. Sure, lots more Grimlock, But Optimus is still around. He's he most popular character so stores would order more of that wave than any other.
In any case, he is available on e-bay for 45$ shipped
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?siteid=0&pub=5574891718&campid=5336631220&customid=&toolid=10001&mkevt=1&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.ca%2Fitm%2FTRANSFORMERS-5-T%20...%20SwhvFZArNh%3C%2Fa%3E%3F
Posted by william-james88 on August 14th, 2017 @ 10:55pm CDT
nycPrime wrote:Sabrblade wrote:The SDCC one is, amazingly, still for sale on HTS.nycPrime wrote:Yea figured that was the answer. Any insight on if there may be more available down the line, especially given the popularity of the figure?
LoL thought about it when I ordered Primitive OP but didn't feel like dropping 50 on a voyager. After tax and shipping, I'm better off with the 2 pack from BBTS. But then I'd be stuck with Grimlock.
Is he really sold out everywhere you looked? Including Tru, target and Walmart? I still see him myself. Sure, lots more Grimlock, But Optimus is still around. He's he most popular character so stores would order more of that wave than any other.
In any case, he is available on e-bay for 45$ shipped
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?siteid=0&pub=5574891718&campid=5336631220&customid=&toolid=10001&mkevt=1&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.ca%2Fitm%2FTRANSFORMERS-5-T%20...%20SwhvFZArNh%3C%2Fa%3E%3F
Re: Leader vs Voyager: Which is the Better Megatron Figure from Transformers: The Last Knight (1904390)
Posted by nycPrime on August 14th, 2017 @ 11:02pm CDT
I haven't looked for it that much. I can probably find it if I tried harder. There are no Walmarts in NYC. There's only one TRU that is convenient for me, and that's the one with 10 Grimlocks. I'll look around at some Targets near me. I'll also be in NJ next weekend, and pretty sure I'll be near a Walmart and Target. It just struck me as odd that it wasn't even readily available online.
Posted by nycPrime on August 14th, 2017 @ 11:02pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Is he really sold out everywhere you looked? Including Tru, target and Walmart? I still see him myself. Sure, lots more Grimlock, But Optimus is still around. He's he most popular character so stores would order more of that wave than any other.
In any case, he is available on e-bay for 45$ shipped
I haven't looked for it that much. I can probably find it if I tried harder. There are no Walmarts in NYC. There's only one TRU that is convenient for me, and that's the one with 10 Grimlocks. I'll look around at some Targets near me. I'll also be in NJ next weekend, and pretty sure I'll be near a Walmart and Target. It just struck me as odd that it wasn't even readily available online.
Re: Leader vs Voyager: Which is the Better Megatron Figure from Transformers: The Last Knight (1904396)
Posted by Autobot Roadburn on August 15th, 2017 @ 12:45am CDT
I'd occasionally check the Toys R Us shopping site, I've seen him pop up once or twice while I've been looking for Masterpiece Bumblebee.
Posted by Autobot Roadburn on August 15th, 2017 @ 12:45am CDT
nycPrime wrote:william-james88 wrote:Is he really sold out everywhere you looked? Including Tru, target and Walmart? I still see him myself. Sure, lots more Grimlock, But Optimus is still around. He's he most popular character so stores would order more of that wave than any other.
In any case, he is available on e-bay for 45$ shipped
I haven't looked for it that much. I can probably find it if I tried harder. There are no Walmarts in NYC. There's only one TRU that is convenient for me, and that's the one with 10 Grimlocks. I'll look around at some Targets near me. I'll also be in NJ next weekend, and pretty sure I'll be near a Walmart and Target. It just struck me as odd that it wasn't even readily available online.
I'd occasionally check the Toys R Us shopping site, I've seen him pop up once or twice while I've been looking for Masterpiece Bumblebee.
Re: Leader vs Voyager: Which is the Better Megatron Figure from Transformers: The Last Knight (1904411)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on August 15th, 2017 @ 8:16am CDT
Posted by Rodimus Prime on August 15th, 2017 @ 8:16am CDT
I saw last night that my Walmart has a few Flip and Change Bees and Rods. I was gonna pass on TLK Hot Rod, but if the deluxe is painted as sharp as the Flip and Change is, I'm gonna pick one up if I ever find it. Also, I wonder if there's any chance of a TLK Hot Rod in G1 colors somewhere down the line.
Re: Leader vs Voyager: Which is the Better Megatron Figure from Transformers: The Last Knight (1904412)
Posted by william-james88 on August 15th, 2017 @ 8:19am CDT
Posted by william-james88 on August 15th, 2017 @ 8:19am CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:Also, I wonder if there's any chance of a TLK Hot Rod in G1 colors somewhere down the line.
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Posted by Hellscream9999 on August 15th, 2017 @ 8:27am CDT
HEY!
That banner is out of date, arcee, artfire, g2 menasor, exhaust and oil slick all exist now
Guess its not too wishful at this point based on some of the obscurities there that now have figures
Posted by Hellscream9999 on August 15th, 2017 @ 8:27am CDT
william-james88 wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:Also, I wonder if there's any chance of a TLK Hot Rod in G1 colors somewhere down the line.
HEY!
That banner is out of date, arcee, artfire, g2 menasor, exhaust and oil slick all exist now
Guess its not too wishful at this point based on some of the obscurities there that now have figures
Re: Leader vs Voyager: Which is the Better Megatron Figure from Transformers: The Last Knight (1904488)
Posted by Omegatron. on August 15th, 2017 @ 3:13pm CDT
Posted by Omegatron. on August 15th, 2017 @ 3:13pm CDT
Rodimus277 posted this in the Titans Return thread a few days ago but in case anyone hasn't seen it here is a review of Cogman.
It has English subtitles, which I think were only recently added.
It has English subtitles, which I think were only recently added.
Re: Leader vs Voyager: Which is the Better Megatron Figure from Transformers: The Last Knight (1904507)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on August 15th, 2017 @ 4:41pm CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on August 15th, 2017 @ 4:41pm CDT
All of these Grimlocks gonna go on super clearance SOMEDAY, right? Because I'd get one in those sexy colors for 15 or 20$CAN. But not the 40$CAN plus taxes they ask for.
Re: Leader vs Voyager: Which is the Better Megatron Figure from Transformers: The Last Knight (1904547)
Posted by nycPrime on August 15th, 2017 @ 8:09pm CDT
Posted by nycPrime on August 15th, 2017 @ 8:09pm CDT
Voyager Megatron arrived via HTS today. It's my first ever live action movie figure. Wow, what a figure! I've only seen the first movie and I'm not a huge fan of any of the bot modes so that's why I've avoided getting into this line. I'm okay with the bot mode here, but man, amazing quality. I don't remember the last time I got a figure that had such nice and tight joints. As some have mentioned, I feel the arm cannon is a tad too small. And I really, really, really wish it had that battle mask gimmick.
I'm not the type of person that cares for transformation (unless it's annoyingly difficult), but it was actually enjoyable in this case. And the main reason I got: jet mode, which is a winner. The feet under the wings do annoy me more than I thought it would. The jet mode is so lovely I'm super attempted to get the leader as well. Must. Resist. Temptation.
I'm not the type of person that cares for transformation (unless it's annoyingly difficult), but it was actually enjoyable in this case. And the main reason I got: jet mode, which is a winner. The feet under the wings do annoy me more than I thought it would. The jet mode is so lovely I'm super attempted to get the leader as well. Must. Resist. Temptation.
Re: Leader vs Voyager: Which is the Better Megatron Figure from Transformers: The Last Knight (1904554)
Posted by Autobot Roadburn on August 15th, 2017 @ 8:24pm CDT
Glad you like it! The tight joints were one of my favorite things about him too, nearly all my figures for months have had one loose joint in one spot or another. It's something I can deal with, but man, when I opened up my Megatron it was nice to just have literally zero issues right out of the box. He's easily my favorite movie Megs, with the DotM voyager fairly close behind.
I agree about the gimmick, that was literally the only thing making me want the leader after how satisfying the voyager was. I doubt it'll happen, but since there were a couple voyager Optimus figures found with an exposed face I wonder if we'll get a voyager Megatron variant with the faceplate on.
Posted by Autobot Roadburn on August 15th, 2017 @ 8:24pm CDT
nycPrime wrote:Voyager Megatron arrived via HTS today. It's my first ever live action movie figure. Wow, what a figure! I've only seen the first movie and I'm not a huge fan of any of the bot modes so that's why I've avoided getting into this line. I'm okay with the bot mode here, but man, amazing quality. I don't remember the last time I got a figure that had such nice and tight joints. As some have mentioned, I feel the arm cannon is a tad too small. And I really, really, really wish it had that battle mask gimmick.
I'm not the type of person that cares for transformation (unless it's annoyingly difficult), but it was actually enjoyable in this case. And the main reason I got: jet mode, which is a winner. The feet under the wings do annoy me more than I thought it would. The jet mode is so lovely I'm super attempted to get the leader as well. Must. Resist. Temptation.
Glad you like it! The tight joints were one of my favorite things about him too, nearly all my figures for months have had one loose joint in one spot or another. It's something I can deal with, but man, when I opened up my Megatron it was nice to just have literally zero issues right out of the box. He's easily my favorite movie Megs, with the DotM voyager fairly close behind.
I agree about the gimmick, that was literally the only thing making me want the leader after how satisfying the voyager was. I doubt it'll happen, but since there were a couple voyager Optimus figures found with an exposed face I wonder if we'll get a voyager Megatron variant with the faceplate on.
Re: Leader vs Voyager: Which is the Better Megatron Figure from Transformers: The Last Knight (1904555)
Posted by william-james88 on August 15th, 2017 @ 8:25pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on August 15th, 2017 @ 8:25pm CDT
If any of you are are thirsty for more Cogman, Kevin Liu has posted a video review. While it is in Chinese, he does add English subtitles so you can follow along and see him in all his aspects.
We also have additional images from Toy-People of the deluxes from Transformers: The Last Knight that have yet to be released: Crosshairs and Bumblebee. Dragonstorm can be found there too. There is also a great group shot of the Autobot team from Transformers the Last Knight. Say what you want about this toy line but those sure are some pretty bots.
We also have additional images from Toy-People of the deluxes from Transformers: The Last Knight that have yet to be released: Crosshairs and Bumblebee. Dragonstorm can be found there too. There is also a great group shot of the Autobot team from Transformers the Last Knight. Say what you want about this toy line but those sure are some pretty bots.
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Posted by Autobot Roadburn on August 15th, 2017 @ 8:27pm CDT
Posted by Autobot Roadburn on August 15th, 2017 @ 8:27pm CDT
Nooo, I convinced myself I didn't need Crosshairs!
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Posted by Lucky Logician on August 15th, 2017 @ 8:48pm CDT
Seeing a thin Megatron with no arm cannon is just really weird.
Posted by Lucky Logician on August 15th, 2017 @ 8:48pm CDT
Seeing a thin Megatron with no arm cannon is just really weird.
Re: Leader vs Voyager: Which is the Better Megatron Figure from Transformers: The Last Knight (1904588)
Posted by SureShot18 on August 15th, 2017 @ 11:01pm CDT
Posted by SureShot18 on August 15th, 2017 @ 11:01pm CDT
I'm gonna end up buying that Crosshairs, Cogman, and Bumblebee aren't I...why do the photos make them look so gooood.
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Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 16th, 2017 @ 9:03am CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 16th, 2017 @ 9:03am CDT
So I picked up this guy yesterday:
Very very mixed feelings with this one. The new torso bot is great! Skulk is genuinely really fun to hold and play around with. He can pose really well (sort of weird, but still really well) and the molding and detail is fantastic! If you just had him, the combined mode would hold all kinds of promises!
But then come the limbs. I am not joking when I say these limbs (I already own Abominus, so I have experience with them) are the worst quality figures I own. The molds have to be dead for the limbs to be this awful.
Thrash (left arm): his head and front legs pop off when you open his chest and his armor pieces on his legs are so loose they slide by themselves and will not hold in place.
Rupture (right arm): his ball joints are pathetic. his wings fall off just standing in place. and his robot head joint is so stiff I am afraid to transform him into robot mode.
Gorge (left leg): his ball joints are so loose his beast and robot modes are useless. He will not stand. And the pegs won't work for combined mode, so he just flops around unless he is actually bearing weight equally on his head and feet.
Glug (right leg): worst of the lot. his beast mode head will not tab together, he is almost completely useless as a leg (the only reason he is working is because I have him very mistransformed and the combining system is much more secure on this one, more on that in a moment) and his ball joints are awful too.
The combining system is pretty good though for the legs. they now possess some clips on Skulks arms that peg in and hold the legs, which allows for the mistransformations that make the legs work better.
But still, I have to say avoid this figure. Skulk is great! But that is it. The limbs are of pitiful and painfully bad quality. Not worth the full price.
PS: Quintessa is cool, but she is so tiny!
Very very mixed feelings with this one. The new torso bot is great! Skulk is genuinely really fun to hold and play around with. He can pose really well (sort of weird, but still really well) and the molding and detail is fantastic! If you just had him, the combined mode would hold all kinds of promises!
But then come the limbs. I am not joking when I say these limbs (I already own Abominus, so I have experience with them) are the worst quality figures I own. The molds have to be dead for the limbs to be this awful.
Thrash (left arm): his head and front legs pop off when you open his chest and his armor pieces on his legs are so loose they slide by themselves and will not hold in place.
Rupture (right arm): his ball joints are pathetic. his wings fall off just standing in place. and his robot head joint is so stiff I am afraid to transform him into robot mode.
Gorge (left leg): his ball joints are so loose his beast and robot modes are useless. He will not stand. And the pegs won't work for combined mode, so he just flops around unless he is actually bearing weight equally on his head and feet.
Glug (right leg): worst of the lot. his beast mode head will not tab together, he is almost completely useless as a leg (the only reason he is working is because I have him very mistransformed and the combining system is much more secure on this one, more on that in a moment) and his ball joints are awful too.
The combining system is pretty good though for the legs. they now possess some clips on Skulks arms that peg in and hold the legs, which allows for the mistransformations that make the legs work better.
But still, I have to say avoid this figure. Skulk is great! But that is it. The limbs are of pitiful and painfully bad quality. Not worth the full price.
PS: Quintessa is cool, but she is so tiny!
Re: Leader vs Voyager: Which is the Better Megatron Figure from Transformers: The Last Knight (1904705)
Posted by TFmonkeybiz on August 16th, 2017 @ 12:45pm CDT
I'm not surprised at all. Aside from the fact that Hasbro's quality control team seem to have disappeared from the face of the earth, most of the limb molds have all been flogged to death over the past few years.
Blight (Gorge) and Twinstrike (Thrash) have gotten off fairly light, only being used to make GO! Burara and Garara respectively,before this, however, Rippersnapper (Glug) was also used to make Predacons Rising Cindersaur, Go! Jurara, AOE Grimlock, TF 2014 Grimlock and TLK Grimlock and Windrazor (Rupture) was also used to make Prime Divebomb, Go! Barara, and TF 2014 Strafe.
All in all, it's a miracle that most of them came out even semi- functional.
Posted by TFmonkeybiz on August 16th, 2017 @ 12:45pm CDT
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:So I picked up this guy yesterday:
Very very mixed feelings with this one. The new torso bot is great! Skulk is genuinely really fun to hold and play around with. He can pose really well (sort of weird, but still really well) and the molding and detail is fantastic! If you just had him, the combined mode would hold all kinds of promises!
But then come the limbs. I am not joking when I say these limbs (I already own Abominus, so I have experience with them) are the worst quality figures I own. The molds have to be dead for the limbs to be this awful.
Thrash (left arm): his head and front legs pop off when you open his chest and his armor pieces on his legs are so loose they slide by themselves and will not hold in place.
Rupture (right arm): his ball joints are pathetic. his wings fall off just standing in place. and his robot head joint is so stiff I am afraid to transform him into robot mode.
Gorge (left leg): his ball joints are so loose his beast and robot modes are useless. He will not stand. And the pegs won't work for combined mode, so he just flops around unless he is actually bearing weight equally on his head and feet.
Glug (right leg): worst of the lot. his beast mode head will not tab together, he is almost completely useless as a leg (the only reason he is working is because I have him very mistransformed and the combining system is much more secure on this one, more on that in a moment) and his ball joints are awful too.
The combining system is pretty good though for the legs. they now possess some clips on Skulks arms that peg in and hold the legs, which allows for the mistransformations that make the legs work better.
But still, I have to say avoid this figure. Skulk is great! But that is it. The limbs are of pitiful and painfully bad quality. Not worth the full price.
PS: Quintessa is cool, but she is so tiny!
I'm not surprised at all. Aside from the fact that Hasbro's quality control team seem to have disappeared from the face of the earth, most of the limb molds have all been flogged to death over the past few years.
Blight (Gorge) and Twinstrike (Thrash) have gotten off fairly light, only being used to make GO! Burara and Garara respectively,before this, however, Rippersnapper (Glug) was also used to make Predacons Rising Cindersaur, Go! Jurara, AOE Grimlock, TF 2014 Grimlock and TLK Grimlock and Windrazor (Rupture) was also used to make Prime Divebomb, Go! Barara, and TF 2014 Strafe.
All in all, it's a miracle that most of them came out even semi- functional.
Re: Leader vs Voyager: Which is the Better Megatron Figure from Transformers: The Last Knight (1904759)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on August 16th, 2017 @ 5:20pm CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on August 16th, 2017 @ 5:20pm CDT
I got rid of Abobinus because I simply had no fun with that set. And after viewing a few video and article reviews of Infernocus I'll have to skip entirely. Really, ALL the components should have been new molds... The torso voyager size, the limbs deluxe size, Combiner Wars compatible, in a nice 150$CAN box set.
But eh, wishful thinking.
But eh, wishful thinking.
