Larger Images of Takara Legends Jetfire & Sky-Byte
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Posted by OptimalOptimus2 on August 7th, 2014 @ 10:37am CDT
Posted by megatronus on August 7th, 2014 @ 10:38am CDT
mooncake623 wrote:Following yesterday's announcement of Takara's Legends Jetfire & Sky-Byte we have Larger images provided to us by the Agabyss Twitter page. Looks like this confirms our guesses of Jetfire loseing all the red chrome in favor of a flat red color, and Sky-Byte having extra paint applications. We've mirrored the images below.
Considering that Jetfire - looks real nice with the black details on the guns.
Posted by shajaki on August 7th, 2014 @ 11:05am CDT
im hoping that too. you gotta figure, if theres a chance they can repaint a toy into anything else that theyll do it. it all equals money to them.OptimalOptimus2 wrote:COME ON TAKARA! Repaint Sky-Byte into Cybershark! Please!!!!
jetfires jetfires jetfires.....
honestly im getting both. because who knows which one ill like better in hand, and it wont kill me to have two
Posted by fenrir72 on August 7th, 2014 @ 1:00pm CDT
Posted by reluctantyouth on August 7th, 2014 @ 1:56pm CDT
So interesting that Hasbro goes shiny chrome and Takara goes old school. I like this version much better and have pre-ordered 2 from TFSource.com. The figures are also listed on BBTS.com and are a dollar cheaper than TFSource. I went for the free shipping when ordering two as it was $151.90 through Source.
I figure this is a solid investment and would rather put my money into a well thought out old school homage than what Hasbro will be giving us. December cannot come soon enough for this great representation!!
Now to Amazon to cancel my Hasbro edition pre-order. Reprolabels could jazz up the Hasbro version but cannot cover up that stupid shiny chrome.
Posted by Rated X on August 7th, 2014 @ 4:26pm CDT
Posted by WildclawPrime on August 7th, 2014 @ 9:40pm CDT
Posted by megatronus on August 7th, 2014 @ 10:19pm CDT
WildclawPrime wrote:Why is it that Takara has the better paint schemes then the Hasbro releases?
Sometimes they do, sometimes they don't. It really depends on the particular line & figure.
Posted by fenrir72 on August 8th, 2014 @ 4:45am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on August 8th, 2014 @ 9:38am CDT
fenrir72 wrote:From amiami
http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail ... agecnt%3D1
Looks like no chrome this time.
http://www.seibertron.com/energonpub/takara-tomy-transformers-legends-thread-t101179s125.php#p1597310
Posted by Cyberpath on August 8th, 2014 @ 1:22pm CDT
I actually prefer the Hasbro version this time, it's slightly more cartoon-accurate.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on August 8th, 2014 @ 1:42pm CDT
Cyberpath wrote:Why is the Takara version much more expansive than Hasbro's?
I actually prefer the Hasbro version this time, it's slightly more cartoon-accurate.
It's basic economics really. It's actually on par with current Japanese prices for Leader Class, and in fact between US and EU prices (EU being 70 Euros)
Posted by fenrir72 on August 8th, 2014 @ 6:31pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:fenrir72 wrote:From amiami
http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail ... agecnt%3D1
Looks like no chrome this time.
http://www.seibertron.com/energonpub/takara-tomy-transformers-legends-thread-t101179s125.php#p1597310
The thread you are linking IS NOT from Amiami. So was THAT a means to correct something that does not need to be corrected?
For THOSE too busy to actually read the link
Cost: Y 7560 @ 30% off so it costs Y 5280 but ALL SOLD OUT.
So, do I get a "No" Prize?
Btw here's another link, this time at Hobbysearch:LG07 coming late December 2014
http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/list/1059/0/1
Cost: Y 7000 but HS is charging Y 5950.........not yet SOLD OUT.
Posted by fenrir72 on August 8th, 2014 @ 6:46pm CDT
Cyberpath wrote:Why is the Takara version much more expansive than Hasbro's?
I actually prefer the Hasbro version this time, it's slightly more cartoon-accurate.
If the stock pics are accurate and not open to further changes it looks like it will follow the exact color apps found in the box art.
See the stripes patterns on both chest panels (R and L)? The apps on his front shins. His sigils now have white borders and the armor have the black paint apps. And it looks like no chrome.
Being Japan bound, maybe this changes are Tomy's justification of a "slightly" higher SRP. He also might have a different colored plastic like the Japanese Drift had a different white from the Hasbro. I said "might" though.........
Posted by megatronus on August 8th, 2014 @ 6:52pm CDT
fenrir72 wrote:Cyberpath wrote:Why is the Takara version much more expansive than Hasbro's?
I actually prefer the Hasbro version this time, it's slightly more cartoon-accurate.
If the stock pics are accurate and not open to further changes it looks like it will follow the exact color apps found in the box art.
See the stripes patterns on both chest panels (R and L)? The apps on his front shins. His sigils now have white borders and the armor have the black paint apps. And it looks like no chrome.
Being Japan bound, maybe this changes are Tomy's justification of a "slightly" higher SRP. He also might have a different colored plastic like the Japanese Drift had a different white from the Hasbro. I said "might" though.........
A pearly white would make Takara Jetfire 100% worth the asking price, IMHO.
Posted by xyl360 on August 8th, 2014 @ 8:50pm CDT
megatronus wrote:fenrir72 wrote:Cyberpath wrote:Why is the Takara version much more expansive than Hasbro's?
I actually prefer the Hasbro version this time, it's slightly more cartoon-accurate.
If the stock pics are accurate and not open to further changes it looks like it will follow the exact color apps found in the box art.
See the stripes patterns on both chest panels (R and L)? The apps on his front shins. His sigils now have white borders and the armor have the black paint apps. And it looks like no chrome.
Being Japan bound, maybe this changes are Tomy's justification of a "slightly" higher SRP. He also might have a different colored plastic like the Japanese Drift had a different white from the Hasbro. I said "might" though.........
A pearly white would make Takara Jetfire 100% worth the asking price, IMHO.
I don't know what shade it will be, but I'd bet that the Takara version will use at least slightly different color plastics. They almost always do, sometimes subtly different and other times dramatically so, but it's almost always at least somewhat different.
Posted by fenrir72 on August 9th, 2014 @ 2:02am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on August 9th, 2014 @ 9:34am CDT
Their Gelshark is shinier than Sky-Byte, and their Jetfire has more paint apps than Hasbro's. So, for Jetfire, it's just a non-shiny bling.fenrir72 wrote:Tomy or specifically anything for the Japanese market has an extra bling, though in this case.......no bling?? hehehehe
Posted by fenrir72 on August 9th, 2014 @ 10:53am CDT
Posted by william-james88 on August 14th, 2014 @ 2:52pm CDT
I am puzzled as to how each of these Legends toys look to be the same size. Leo Prime and Optimus Primal use the same original molds and original ultra sizes right? So then which mold is that classic optimus from? It looks like the Deluxe Classics Prime but he was much smaller. And the movie optimus looks like the one step optimus but once again that size make me scratch my head as to what toy this is and if it was actually ever released before. Can anyone help?
Posted by Mindmaster on August 14th, 2014 @ 2:57pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:I am puzzled as to how each of these Legends toys look to be the same size. Leo Prime and Optimus Primal use the same original molds and original ultra sizes right? So then which mold is that classic optimus from? It looks like the Deluxe Classics Prime but he was much smaller. And the movie optimus looks like the one step optimus but once again that size make me scratch my head as to what toy this is and if it was actually ever released before. Can anyone help?
Generation One Optimus Prime, Optimus Primal, and Lio Convoy are from the Robotmasters line over in Japan back in 2004-ish, and were all scaled to one another. They're roughly Deluxe-sized. The Optimus Primal and Lio Convoy you see in those images are NOT the Ultra-ish figures originally featured in their respective lines, but scaled down versions.
Posted by william-james88 on August 14th, 2014 @ 3:01pm CDT
Mindmaster wrote:
Generation One Optimus Prime, Optimus Primal, and Lio Convoy are from the Robotmasters line over in Japan back in 2004-ish, and were all scaled to one another. They're roughly Deluxe-sized. The Optimus Primal and Lio Convoy you see in those images are NOT the Ultra-ish figures originally featured in their respective lines, but scaled down versions.
Thanks! So is this the same toy as the one from this piece of news:
http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/japanese-transformers-40/takara-tomy-announces-transformers-legends-new-line-celebrating-30-years-of-transformers-180247/
Because if the Primal is deluxe sized, he should be the same size as the rattrap
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on August 14th, 2014 @ 3:42pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Mindmaster wrote:
Generation One Optimus Prime, Optimus Primal, and Lio Convoy are from the Robotmasters line over in Japan back in 2004-ish, and were all scaled to one another. They're roughly Deluxe-sized. The Optimus Primal and Lio Convoy you see in those images are NOT the Ultra-ish figures originally featured in their respective lines, but scaled down versions.
Thanks! So is this the same toy as the one from this piece of news:
http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/japanese-transformers-40/takara-tomy-announces-transformers-legends-new-line-celebrating-30-years-of-transformers-180247/
Because if the Primal is deluxe sized, he should be the same size as the rattrap
No, that's the original BW Optimus Primal figure (well, the 10th anniversary retool). The main difference is in the hands.
Posted by william-james88 on August 14th, 2014 @ 6:31pm CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:william-james88 wrote:Mindmaster wrote:
Generation One Optimus Prime, Optimus Primal, and Lio Convoy are from the Robotmasters line over in Japan back in 2004-ish, and were all scaled to one another. They're roughly Deluxe-sized. The Optimus Primal and Lio Convoy you see in those images are NOT the Ultra-ish figures originally featured in their respective lines, but scaled down versions.
Thanks! So is this the same toy as the one from this piece of news:
http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/japanese-transformers-40/takara-tomy-announces-transformers-legends-new-line-celebrating-30-years-of-transformers-180247/
Because if the Primal is deluxe sized, he should be the same size as the rattrap
No, that's the original BW Optimus Primal figure (well, the 10th anniversary retool). The main difference is in the hands.
So takara is releasing 2 different scaled Optimus Primals in their Legends line then?
Posted by Sabrblade on August 14th, 2014 @ 6:33pm CDT
Do we even know for sure that the Legend Commander Collection is even part of the Legends toyline?william-james88 wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:william-james88 wrote:Mindmaster wrote:
Generation One Optimus Prime, Optimus Primal, and Lio Convoy are from the Robotmasters line over in Japan back in 2004-ish, and were all scaled to one another. They're roughly Deluxe-sized. The Optimus Primal and Lio Convoy you see in those images are NOT the Ultra-ish figures originally featured in their respective lines, but scaled down versions.
Thanks! So is this the same toy as the one from this piece of news:
http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/japanese-transformers-40/takara-tomy-announces-transformers-legends-new-line-celebrating-30-years-of-transformers-180247/
Because if the Primal is deluxe sized, he should be the same size as the rattrap
No, that's the original BW Optimus Primal figure (well, the 10th anniversary retool). The main difference is in the hands.
So takara is releasing 2 different scaled Optimus Primals in their Legends line then?
After all, it's "Legend Commander Collection" rather than "LegendS Commander Collection".
Posted by william-james88 on August 14th, 2014 @ 6:37pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Do we even know for sure that the Legend Commander Collection is even part of the Legends toyline?
After all, it's "Legend Commander Collection" rather than "LegendS Commander Collection".
Silly me, I thought there was some coherence to the similar names
Posted by Sabrblade on August 14th, 2014 @ 6:42pm CDT
Not to mention that the LCC toys were all TF Expo exclusives.william-james88 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Do we even know for sure that the Legend Commander Collection is even part of the Legends toyline?
After all, it's "Legend Commander Collection" rather than "LegendS Commander Collection".
Silly me, I thought there was some coherence to the similar names
Posted by Wolfman Jake on August 14th, 2014 @ 7:43pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on August 14th, 2014 @ 7:56pm CDT
I just use my Telemocha Series figure (which uses the RobotMasters mold) and have Cheetor (who is also the Telemocha Series figure, using the original BW mold, since the Universe Cheetor mold is garbage) in an action pose with his legs bent to make him squat shorter than Primal.Wolfman Jake wrote:I'm debating what will be the least "problematic" Optimus Primal to go in my Classics Beast Wars collection. The upcoming reissue of the original Ultra figure, which is bigger than voyager Rhinox, or this reissue of the Robotmasters figure, which is quite a bit smaller than Voyager Rhinox. I'm leaning towards a large figure, which would at least scale Primal properly with Cheetor, but then he'd be too big for Dinobot. Ugh...such a headache.
Though, I also use the original Rattrap mold since the Generations mold, while nice, is too big for even Rhinox and Dinobot, only scaling well with the original BW Ultra Optimus Primal mold.
Posted by Wolfman Jake on August 14th, 2014 @ 9:15pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on August 14th, 2014 @ 9:51pm CDT
This looks enough enough to me:Wolfman Jake wrote:Scale is simply a nightmare for Beast Wars figures.
Though, my Rattrap is the more show-accurate Japanese one with the copper head and hands.
Posted by Wolfman Jake on August 14th, 2014 @ 10:43pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on August 14th, 2014 @ 10:51pm CDT
That's what the Ultra mold is, though. A Classics version would be like this:Wolfman Jake wrote:Not bad, but I don't want to have to use the original BW toys to fill in my gaps.
Posted by Wolfman Jake on August 15th, 2014 @ 6:23pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:That's what the Ultra mold is, though. A Classics version would be like this:Wolfman Jake wrote:Not bad, but I don't want to have to use the original BW toys to fill in my gaps.
Yeah, I know the Ultra toy coming up from Takara is technically the original toy from Beast Wars, but it's been retooled and redecoed compared to the original release. That gives it a pass in my mind. I do have that deluxe Optimus Primal from the Beast Wars Anniversary line as well. He's the "Classics" primal on my shelf right now, and he's frankly not too bad in bot mode. Gorilla mode is a different matter, but I just kind of pretend he's transmetal. The biggest let down is the size. I wish some of that surf board mass could have gone into the figure itself instead.
Posted by Sabrblade on August 15th, 2014 @ 10:52pm CDT
But that tooling isn't new. It was already given that tooling back in 2007 for the Takara's Beast Wars Reborn release (which was released later that year for Hasbro's BW 10th Anniversary line).Wolfman Jake wrote:Yeah, I know the Ultra toy coming up from Takara is technically the original toy from Beast Wars, but it's been retooled and redecoed compared to the original release. That gives it a pass in my mind.
Posted by shajaki on August 15th, 2014 @ 11:06pm CDT
off topic: hey sarblade... doncha think telemocha cheetor is incredibly underated? ive always been a fan of the mold, but i was blown away with how nice the paint apps were.Sabrblade wrote:This looks enough enough to me:Wolfman Jake wrote:Scale is simply a nightmare for Beast Wars figures.
Though, my Rattrap is the more show-accurate Japanese one with the copper head and hands.
and i was going to say, as far as scale goes i thought beast wars was one of the best. only real issues lie with the original (season 1) toys. which as you can see, have since been rectified.
Posted by fenrir72 on August 17th, 2014 @ 9:00pm CDT
Posted by Va'al on September 3rd, 2014 @ 3:43am CDT
Posted by MemphisR56 on September 3rd, 2014 @ 7:06am CDT
Swerve and Tailgate look quite dull too, a lot unchanged; there was a lot of potential for tailgate to get some extra paint apps and break up all that white too, but all I can see that they've done is remove the blue flames from the hood.
That's cemented me picking up the hasbro versions then.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on September 3rd, 2014 @ 7:36am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on September 3rd, 2014 @ 7:39am CDT
"Swarp" is a mistranslation.Va'al wrote:(with the amusingly named Swarp)
The way Swerve's name is spelled in Japanese Katakana, スワーブ, gives us the Romanization of "Suwābu". Seeing as how the "bu" sound (ブ) is made from almost the same character as the "pu" sound (プ) but with a two little notches instead of little circle, it seems that RobotKingdom misread the ブ as a プ and misconstrued "Suwābu" into "Suwāpu" and came out with "Swarp" instead of "Swerve".
A similar thing happened with the Prime Arms Micron Swerve figure (the remold of Breakdown), whose name was initially mistranslated as "Swoop" (which is also written as スワープ "Swāpu", with the same little difference from スワーブ "Suwābu" in its プ vs. the latter's ブ)
Posted by Rated X on September 3rd, 2014 @ 7:44am CDT
Posted by shajaki on September 3rd, 2014 @ 8:47am CDT
*agrees*Rated X wrote:Takara needs to give fans a real tailgate from the scout windcharger mold, not this legends crappy mold.
but now that the character has a new mold, i doubt we'll ever see it.
Posted by Sabrblade on September 3rd, 2014 @ 2:05pm CDT
Posted by khrome on September 3rd, 2014 @ 2:06pm CDT
"My minicon turns into an arm cannon!"
"Well MY minicon is my head! What's your minicon do, Tails?"
"um.. I dont wanna talk about it"
Posted by Sabrblade on September 3rd, 2014 @ 2:12pm CDT
khrome wrote:Tailgate comes with a pooper-scooper bot?
Bomb disposal skid loader.
Posted by Sabrblade on September 3rd, 2014 @ 2:32pm CDT
Those ARE the Hasbro versions pictured (with Tailgate's flames digitally edited out of the pics). Those Takara pics are using images of Hasbro figures.MemphisR56 wrote:That grey plastic on the brainstorm is awful dark, the faceplate looks quite dull in those pictures too. It's quite a heavy contrast against the blue; remembering my childhood brainstorm figure it feels as though the hasbro version is the more accurate this time around.
Swerve and Tailgate look quite dull too, a lot unchanged; there was a lot of potential for tailgate to get some extra paint apps and break up all that white too, but all I can see that they've done is remove the blue flames from the hood.
That's cemented me picking up the hasbro versions then.
Posted by Wolfman Jake on September 5th, 2014 @ 12:11am CDT
MemphisR56 wrote:That grey plastic on the brainstorm is awful dark, the faceplate looks quite dull in those pictures too. It's quite a heavy contrast against the blue; remembering my childhood brainstorm figure it feels as though the hasbro version is the more accurate this time around.
Once again, I think Hasbro has gone with the G1 toy as the basis for their "Classics" rendition while Takara-Tomy aims more for screen accuracy from the original cartoon series. The G1 Brainstorm toy has lighter gray plastics, but on the show, the gray in Brainstorm's character model was a LOT darker. I used to just buy what Hasbro released because it's more readily available in stores in the U.S. (and cheaper), but my tastes have turned to screen accuracy of late, so I'm leaning more towards the Takara release for Brainstorm now. That is, unless Takara goes too far in trying to make him "screen accurate" to Headmasters and paints a mouth over his mouth plate.
Posted by Wolfman Jake on September 5th, 2014 @ 12:11am CDT