Kingdom Wave 3 Deluxes Out in Singapore Giving us a Look at the Packaging
Friday, June 4th, 2021 9:28AM CDT
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Q3 starts next month so it was a matter of time before the wave 3 deluxes were found somewhere. The US was the first country to get the wave 3 leader Galvatron (many US fans now have him) but Singapore now has the wave 3 deluxes. These include Wheeljack, Wingfinger, Tracks and Scorponok. The image from Izaac Ryan which you can see below shows us the packaging. We also have an image that shows us the core class packaging. It isn't certain how much time it will take for these to show up in the west but at least we know Wave 3 is being shipped out.
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Re: Kingdom Wave 3 Deluxes Out in Singapore Giving us a Look at the Packaging (2106486)
Posted by DeathReviews on June 4th, 2021 @ 10:35am CDT
Posted by DeathReviews on June 4th, 2021 @ 10:35am CDT
Is Wheeljack just a re-release of Earthrise then? Wonder if they simply took all the unsold ER Wheeljack figures and transferred them into Kingdom boxes...
Re: Kingdom Wave 3 Deluxes Out in Singapore Giving us a Look at the Packaging (2106487)
Posted by Sabrblade on June 4th, 2021 @ 10:38am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on June 4th, 2021 @ 10:38am CDT
That is not how rereleases work.DeathReviews wrote:Is Wheeljack just a re-release of Earthrise then? Wonder if they simply took all the unsold ER Wheeljack figures and transferred them into Kingdom boxes...
Re: Kingdom Wave 3 Deluxes Out in Singapore Giving us a Look at the Packaging (2106488)
Posted by DeathReviews on June 4th, 2021 @ 10:39am CDT
Or..... IS IT? Mwuh ha ha ha haaaaaaaaaa
Posted by DeathReviews on June 4th, 2021 @ 10:39am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:That is not how rereleases work.DeathReviews wrote:Is Wheeljack just a re-release of Earthrise then? Wonder if they simply took all the unsold ER Wheeljack figures and transferred them into Kingdom boxes...
Or..... IS IT? Mwuh ha ha ha haaaaaaaaaa
Re: Kingdom Wave 3 Deluxes Out in Singapore Giving us a Look at the Packaging (2106489)
Posted by sol magnus on June 4th, 2021 @ 10:42am CDT
Well, maybe if there were actually any leftover Wheeljacks. But there aren't any in my area.
Posted by sol magnus on June 4th, 2021 @ 10:42am CDT
DeathReviews wrote:Sabrblade wrote:That is not how rereleases work.DeathReviews wrote:Is Wheeljack just a re-release of Earthrise then? Wonder if they simply took all the unsold ER Wheeljack figures and transferred them into Kingdom boxes...
Or..... IS IT? Mwuh ha ha ha haaaaaaaaaa
Well, maybe if there were actually any leftover Wheeljacks. But there aren't any in my area.
Re: Kingdom Wave 3 Deluxes Out in Singapore Giving us a Look at the Packaging (2106490)
Posted by Sabrblade on June 4th, 2021 @ 10:42am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on June 4th, 2021 @ 10:42am CDT
DeathReviews wrote:Sabrblade wrote:That is not how rereleases work.DeathReviews wrote:Is Wheeljack just a re-release of Earthrise then? Wonder if they simply took all the unsold ER Wheeljack figures and transferred them into Kingdom boxes...
Or..... IS IT? Mwuh ha ha ha haaaaaaaaaa
Re: Kingdom Wave 3 Deluxes Out in Singapore Giving us a Look at the Packaging (2106491)
Posted by william-james88 on June 4th, 2021 @ 10:42am CDT
It's just a rerelase. meaning that they produced more for this new line.
Posted by william-james88 on June 4th, 2021 @ 10:42am CDT
DeathReviews wrote:Is Wheeljack just a re-release of Earthrise then? Wonder if they simply took all the unsold ER Wheeljack figures and transferred them into Kingdom boxes...
It's just a rerelase. meaning that they produced more for this new line.
Re: Kingdom Wave 3 Deluxes Out in Singapore Giving us a Look at the Packaging (2106498)
Posted by Betenoire on June 4th, 2021 @ 11:40am CDT
Nah they just ship all the old packaging to Ollie's and Ross related store apparently. Often without going to Target, Walmart or even Hasbro Pulse first it seems.
Posted by Betenoire on June 4th, 2021 @ 11:40am CDT
DeathReviews wrote:Sabrblade wrote:That is not how rereleases work.DeathReviews wrote:Is Wheeljack just a re-release of Earthrise then? Wonder if they simply took all the unsold ER Wheeljack figures and transferred them into Kingdom boxes...
Or..... IS IT? Mwuh ha ha ha haaaaaaaaaa
Nah they just ship all the old packaging to Ollie's and Ross related store apparently. Often without going to Target, Walmart or even Hasbro Pulse first it seems.
Re: Kingdom Wave 3 Deluxes Out in Singapore Giving us a Look at the Packaging (2106501)
Posted by o.supreme on June 4th, 2021 @ 12:12pm CDT
Posted by o.supreme on June 4th, 2021 @ 12:12pm CDT
Well hasbro isn't to this pont yet. but some companies are starting to experiment with recycling old toys 
https://www.mahoningmatters.com/local-n ... ow-3767835
Also, noticeably absent in those pictures is Voyager Rhinox. I know aronj found him in the Phoenix area, and the video reviewer found him in Las Vegas, but did we ever figure out who he is repacked with? I want to say it was Cyclonus, but I also thought I heard rumors ER Starscream was going to repackaged in Kingdom as well at some point?
https://www.mahoningmatters.com/local-n ... ow-3767835
Also, noticeably absent in those pictures is Voyager Rhinox. I know aronj found him in the Phoenix area, and the video reviewer found him in Las Vegas, but did we ever figure out who he is repacked with? I want to say it was Cyclonus, but I also thought I heard rumors ER Starscream was going to repackaged in Kingdom as well at some point?
Re: Kingdom Wave 3 Deluxes Out in Singapore Giving us a Look at the Packaging (2106511)
Posted by william-james88 on June 4th, 2021 @ 1:23pm CDT
It's Cyclonus
Posted by william-james88 on June 4th, 2021 @ 1:23pm CDT
o.supreme wrote:Well hasbro isn't to this pont yet. but some companies are starting to experiment with recycling old toys
https://www.mahoningmatters.com/local-n ... ow-3767835
Also, noticeably absent in those pictures is Voyager Rhinox. I know aronj found him in the Phoenix area, and the video reviewer found him in Las Vegas, but did we ever figure out who he is repacked with? I want to say it was Cyclonus, but I also thought I heard rumors ER Starscream was going to repackaged in Kingdom as well at some point?
It's Cyclonus
Re: Kingdom Wave 3 Deluxes Out in Singapore Giving us a Look at the Packaging (2106512)
Posted by Rogue-Primal on June 4th, 2021 @ 1:27pm CDT
Posted by Rogue-Primal on June 4th, 2021 @ 1:27pm CDT
Lot of countries are lucky to get wave 2 and 3. Iceland is still so far behind i had to use the comic book store special import service just to be able to get Optimus Primal (Wave 1) mine is scheduled for july arrival.
Rest of Wave 1 is barely here and blackarachnia and warpath are shelfwarmers over here. Cheetor, Leader Kingdom G1 Optimus, Dinobot, Paleotrex and Leader Megatron sold out fast. Core Optimus and Rattrap figures sold out too.
I hate the european/scandinavian supply lines over here
So far i own
Core Rattrap and Core Optimus Prime (my favorites so far)
Cheetor I haven't transformed him, so no neck fur breakage.
Paleotrex
Still need Core Megatron and Optimus Primal.
Rest of Wave 1 is barely here and blackarachnia and warpath are shelfwarmers over here. Cheetor, Leader Kingdom G1 Optimus, Dinobot, Paleotrex and Leader Megatron sold out fast. Core Optimus and Rattrap figures sold out too.
I hate the european/scandinavian supply lines over here
So far i own
Core Rattrap and Core Optimus Prime (my favorites so far)
Cheetor I haven't transformed him, so no neck fur breakage.
Paleotrex
Still need Core Megatron and Optimus Primal.
Re: Kingdom Wave 3 Deluxes Out in Singapore Giving us a Look at the Packaging (2106513)
Posted by o.supreme on June 4th, 2021 @ 1:32pm CDT
Cool. I hope that Inferno is repacked with Tigatron in wave 4 to get him some more distribution...but again I keep hearing about a re-release of ER Starscream in Kingdom packaging, I hope that's not the case.
Posted by o.supreme on June 4th, 2021 @ 1:32pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:It's Cyclonus
Cool. I hope that Inferno is repacked with Tigatron in wave 4 to get him some more distribution...but again I keep hearing about a re-release of ER Starscream in Kingdom packaging, I hope that's not the case.
Re: Kingdom Wave 3 Deluxes Out in Singapore Giving us a Look at the Packaging (2106514)
Posted by Overcracker on June 4th, 2021 @ 1:43pm CDT
That's the Coronation Starscream for SS-86 AFAIK.
Don't think there's another ER SS set for Kingdom.
Posted by Overcracker on June 4th, 2021 @ 1:43pm CDT
o.supreme wrote:william-james88 wrote:It's Cyclonus
Cool. I hope that Inferno is repacked with Tigatron in wave 4 to get him some more distribution...but again I keep hearing about a re-release of ER Starscream in Kingdom packaging, I hope that's not the case.
That's the Coronation Starscream for SS-86 AFAIK.
Don't think there's another ER SS set for Kingdom.
Re: Kingdom Wave 3 Deluxes Out in Singapore Giving us a Look at the Packaging (2106518)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on June 4th, 2021 @ 2:31pm CDT
There is. This has been confirmed by store listings from several months ago as well as Kingdom promotional artwork and some “character bios” for the exclusive box sets. Inferno might be released again in Kingdom if it does expand to fit in a fifth wave like Siege, as rumors are hinting. Or, Inferno might get slotted into a “revision wave” in the future. E.g., Starscream could be swapped out for Inferno in latter shipments of wave 4.
Posted by Wolfman Jake on June 4th, 2021 @ 2:31pm CDT
Overcracker wrote:o.supreme wrote:william-james88 wrote:It's Cyclonus
Cool. I hope that Inferno is repacked with Tigatron in wave 4 to get him some more distribution...but again I keep hearing about a re-release of ER Starscream in Kingdom packaging, I hope that's not the case.
That's the Coronation Starscream for SS-86 AFAIK.
Don't think there's another ER SS set for Kingdom.
There is. This has been confirmed by store listings from several months ago as well as Kingdom promotional artwork and some “character bios” for the exclusive box sets. Inferno might be released again in Kingdom if it does expand to fit in a fifth wave like Siege, as rumors are hinting. Or, Inferno might get slotted into a “revision wave” in the future. E.g., Starscream could be swapped out for Inferno in latter shipments of wave 4.
Re: Kingdom Wave 3 Deluxes Out in Singapore Giving us a Look at the Packaging (2106520)
Posted by Nemesis Reformatted on June 4th, 2021 @ 2:34pm CDT
It's amazing how they felt the need to reissue Wheeljack again but never felt the need to reissue Titans Return Misfire, Windblade or Twin Twist. Wheeljack was already in Earthrise AND Netflix. I can't believe they would go for a 3rd round.
But I gave up on trying to make sense out of Hasbro long ago.
Posted by Nemesis Reformatted on June 4th, 2021 @ 2:34pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:DeathReviews wrote:Is Wheeljack just a re-release of Earthrise then? Wonder if they simply took all the unsold ER Wheeljack figures and transferred them into Kingdom boxes...
It's just a rerelase. meaning that they produced more for this new line.
It's amazing how they felt the need to reissue Wheeljack again but never felt the need to reissue Titans Return Misfire, Windblade or Twin Twist. Wheeljack was already in Earthrise AND Netflix. I can't believe they would go for a 3rd round.
But I gave up on trying to make sense out of Hasbro long ago.
Re: Kingdom Wave 3 Deluxes Out in Singapore Giving us a Look at the Packaging (2106521)
Posted by aronjlove on June 4th, 2021 @ 2:38pm CDT
Posted by aronjlove on June 4th, 2021 @ 2:38pm CDT
PvP has a video for Tracks. The transformation looks less fiddly than the MP, but not by much. The clear plastic backpack also has me a little worried, but my ER Datsuns have been solid, so not too worried.
Re: Kingdom Wave 3 Deluxes Out in Singapore Giving us a Look at the Packaging (2106525)
Posted by o.supreme on June 4th, 2021 @ 2:49pm CDT
Posted by o.supreme on June 4th, 2021 @ 2:49pm CDT
Re: TR deluxe wave 5 (Misfire, Twin Twist, Windblade). I still to this day don't know what happened. I remember seeing pre-order placeholders (meaning they had the pics saying "coming soon" but you couldn't actually order them), on TRU site and the old Hasbrotoyshop, then all of a sudden they just went away. Must have been a distribution issue. They never appeared in most stores, and ended up at a discount chain, only in the Eastern U.S. for dirt cheap prices and a scalpers paradise. Things are *slightly better* now in that, fans have expressed their frustration with distribution. One point I can say in Hasbro's favor was in 2018 when PotP deluxe wave 2 fell way short of demand, Hasbro actually did good by doing another run and getting more of them out there. Also they seem to be reissuing a LOT of the popular toys of the past couple of years such as the Titans, and CC Jetfire.
But unfortunately we can't win them all. TR wave 5 was a wave that initially had nothing I wanted. Later I did want to get Twintwist, and was fortunate to get a TT Legends Version on eBay for an insanely reasonable price. I expected it to either be the Hasbro version listed incorrectly, or some sort of knockoff, or have some defect, since they can easily go for $100+ now, but no, it was completely legit, and MISB.
But unfortunately we can't win them all. TR wave 5 was a wave that initially had nothing I wanted. Later I did want to get Twintwist, and was fortunate to get a TT Legends Version on eBay for an insanely reasonable price. I expected it to either be the Hasbro version listed incorrectly, or some sort of knockoff, or have some defect, since they can easily go for $100+ now, but no, it was completely legit, and MISB.
Re: Kingdom Wave 3 Deluxes Out in Singapore Giving us a Look at the Packaging (2106526)
Posted by Overcracker on June 4th, 2021 @ 2:50pm CDT
I see,
So 2 ER Starscreams at the same time from the same mold, in 2 different lines? Odd.
Posted by Overcracker on June 4th, 2021 @ 2:50pm CDT
Wolfman Jake wrote:Overcracker wrote:o.supreme wrote:william-james88 wrote:It's Cyclonus
Cool. I hope that Inferno is repacked with Tigatron in wave 4 to get him some more distribution...but again I keep hearing about a re-release of ER Starscream in Kingdom packaging, I hope that's not the case.
That's the Coronation Starscream for SS-86 AFAIK.
Don't think there's another ER SS set for Kingdom.
There is. This has been confirmed by store listings from several months ago as well as Kingdom promotional artwork and some “character bios” for the exclusive box sets. Inferno might be released again in Kingdom if it does expand to fit in a fifth wave like Siege, as rumors are hinting. Or, Inferno might get slotted into a “revision wave” in the future. E.g., Starscream could be swapped out for Inferno in latter shipments of wave 4.
I see,
So 2 ER Starscreams at the same time from the same mold, in 2 different lines? Odd.
Re: Kingdom Wave 3 Deluxes Out in Singapore Giving us a Look at the Packaging (2106528)
Posted by Rogue-Primal on June 4th, 2021 @ 3:01pm CDT
That just proves how popular he is. I still own the original variant of Earthrise Voyager Starscream and it's amazing on it's own
Posted by Rogue-Primal on June 4th, 2021 @ 3:01pm CDT
Overcracker wrote:Wolfman Jake wrote:Overcracker wrote:o.supreme wrote:william-james88 wrote:It's Cyclonus
Cool. I hope that Inferno is repacked with Tigatron in wave 4 to get him some more distribution...but again I keep hearing about a re-release of ER Starscream in Kingdom packaging, I hope that's not the case.
That's the Coronation Starscream for SS-86 AFAIK.
Don't think there's another ER SS set for Kingdom.
There is. This has been confirmed by store listings from several months ago as well as Kingdom promotional artwork and some “character bios” for the exclusive box sets. Inferno might be released again in Kingdom if it does expand to fit in a fifth wave like Siege, as rumors are hinting. Or, Inferno might get slotted into a “revision wave” in the future. E.g., Starscream could be swapped out for Inferno in latter shipments of wave 4.
I see,
So 2 ER Starscreams at the same time from the same mold, in 2 different lines? Odd.
That just proves how popular he is. I still own the original variant of Earthrise Voyager Starscream and it's amazing on it's own
Re: Kingdom Wave 3 Deluxes Out in Singapore Giving us a Look at the Packaging (2106529)
Posted by aronjlove on June 4th, 2021 @ 3:10pm CDT
Posted by aronjlove on June 4th, 2021 @ 3:10pm CDT
That's right, Starscream is mentioned in the Battle Across Time descriptions. Huh, wonder what is going to differentiate him from the ER release.
Re: Kingdom Wave 3 Deluxes Out in Singapore Giving us a Look at the Packaging (2106531)
Posted by Jeddostotle7 on June 4th, 2021 @ 3:14pm CDT
Going by Optimus, Arcee, and Wheeljack:
nothing at all.
Posted by Jeddostotle7 on June 4th, 2021 @ 3:14pm CDT
aronjlove wrote:That's right, Starscream is mentioned in the Battle Across Time descriptions. Huh, wonder what is going to differentiate him from the ER release.
Going by Optimus, Arcee, and Wheeljack:
nothing at all.
Re: Kingdom Wave 3 Deluxes Out in Singapore Giving us a Look at the Packaging (2106532)
Posted by o.supreme on June 4th, 2021 @ 3:14pm CDT
Presumably nothing. Same as Leader Prime, Arcee, and Wheeljack.
Posted by o.supreme on June 4th, 2021 @ 3:14pm CDT
aronjlove wrote:That's right, Starscream is mentioned in the Battle Across Time descriptions. Huh, wonder what is going to differentiate him from the ER release.
Presumably nothing. Same as Leader Prime, Arcee, and Wheeljack.
Re: Kingdom Wave 3 Deluxes Out in Singapore Giving us a Look at the Packaging (2106533)
Posted by ZeroWolf on June 4th, 2021 @ 3:14pm CDT
In Kingdoms case, the same thing that differentiates Leader Class Optimus Prime, Deluxe Class Arcee and Wheeljack aka absolutely nothing. It's going to be the Earthrise release in Kingdom box. The SS86 release on the other hand will be sold at Leader Class price point.
EDIT:
Three posts saying the exact same thing at the exact same time
Posted by ZeroWolf on June 4th, 2021 @ 3:14pm CDT
aronjlove wrote:That's right, Starscream is mentioned in the Battle Across Time descriptions. Huh, wonder what is going to differentiate him from the ER release.
In Kingdoms case, the same thing that differentiates Leader Class Optimus Prime, Deluxe Class Arcee and Wheeljack aka absolutely nothing. It's going to be the Earthrise release in Kingdom box. The SS86 release on the other hand will be sold at Leader Class price point.
EDIT:
Three posts saying the exact same thing at the exact same time
Re: Kingdom Wave 3 Deluxes Out in Singapore Giving us a Look at the Packaging (2106534)
Posted by aronjlove on June 4th, 2021 @ 3:17pm CDT
Posted by aronjlove on June 4th, 2021 @ 3:17pm CDT
Ah, ok. I was thinking he was going to be actually part of the Battle Across Time packs, but those references are just to other Kingdom figures. Gotcha
Re: Kingdom Wave 3 Deluxes Out in Singapore Giving us a Look at the Packaging (2106536)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on June 4th, 2021 @ 3:42pm CDT
I can't believe all you sillies missed the most obvious thing they changed from ER to Kingdom for all of the re-releases. The boxes!
(I'll show myself out now)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on June 4th, 2021 @ 3:42pm CDT
Jeddostotle7 wrote:aronjlove wrote:That's right, Starscream is mentioned in the Battle Across Time descriptions. Huh, wonder what is going to differentiate him from the ER release.
Going by Optimus, Arcee, and Wheeljack:
nothing at all.
o.supreme wrote:aronjlove wrote:That's right, Starscream is mentioned in the Battle Across Time descriptions. Huh, wonder what is going to differentiate him from the ER release.
Presumably nothing. Same as Leader Prime, Arcee, and Wheeljack.
ZeroWolf wrote:aronjlove wrote:That's right, Starscream is mentioned in the Battle Across Time descriptions. Huh, wonder what is going to differentiate him from the ER release.
In Kingdoms case, the same thing that differentiates Leader Class Optimus Prime, Deluxe Class Arcee and Wheeljack aka absolutely nothing. It's going to be the Earthrise release in Kingdom box. The SS86 release on the other hand will be sold at Leader Class price point.
EDIT:
Three posts saying the exact same thing at the exact same time
I can't believe all you sillies missed the most obvious thing they changed from ER to Kingdom for all of the re-releases. The boxes!
(I'll show myself out now)
Re: Kingdom Wave 3 Deluxes Out in Singapore Giving us a Look at the Packaging (2106537)
Posted by o.supreme on June 4th, 2021 @ 3:59pm CDT
I actually feel sorry for whoever had to draw completely new artwork for Kingdom Leader Optimus Prime. I mean it looks amazing, but for something most people already got in ER..., and obviously very little take notice of . Arcee and Wheeljack appear to just have had the same art ported over (and resized) with the Kingdom background, I could be in error though.
Posted by o.supreme on June 4th, 2021 @ 3:59pm CDT
TF-fan kev777 wrote:I can't believe all you sillies missed the most obvious thing they changed from ER to Kingdom for all of the re-releases. The boxes!
(I'll show myself out now)
I actually feel sorry for whoever had to draw completely new artwork for Kingdom Leader Optimus Prime. I mean it looks amazing, but for something most people already got in ER..., and obviously very little take notice of
. Arcee and Wheeljack appear to just have had the same art ported over (and resized) with the Kingdom background, I could be in error though.
Re: Kingdom Wave 3 Deluxes Out in Singapore Giving us a Look at the Packaging (2106539)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on June 4th, 2021 @ 4:35pm CDT
I don't mind the re-releases at all. ER Optimus was pretty damn hard to find so people get a second chance. As for Arcee, appart my local geek store, the ER was either never stocked, or it sold out quickly. Finally for Wheeljack, don't even count the Netflix one. Those damn things are distributed willy-nally so that a "why not" for this one.
TLDr I'm all for re-releases. Especially for figures of the last waves of a series that retailers often skip.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on June 4th, 2021 @ 4:35pm CDT
o.supreme wrote:TF-fan kev777 wrote:I can't believe all you sillies missed the most obvious thing they changed from ER to Kingdom for all of the re-releases. The boxes!
(I'll show myself out now)
I actually feel sorry for whoever had to draw completely new artwork for Kingdom Leader Optimus Prime. I mean it looks amazing, but for something most people already got in ER..., and obviously very little take notice of
I don't mind the re-releases at all. ER Optimus was pretty damn hard to find so people get a second chance. As for Arcee, appart my local geek store, the ER was either never stocked, or it sold out quickly. Finally for Wheeljack, don't even count the Netflix one. Those damn things are distributed willy-nally so that a "why not" for this one.
TLDr I'm all for re-releases. Especially for figures of the last waves of a series that retailers often skip.
Re: Kingdom Wave 3 Deluxes Out in Singapore Giving us a Look at the Packaging (2106540)
Posted by o.supreme on June 4th, 2021 @ 4:48pm CDT
Posted by o.supreme on June 4th, 2021 @ 4:48pm CDT
oddly enough, while I saw plenty of ER Optimus Prime, I've never seen one in Kingdom packaging at retail...Arcee, I've seen plenty of both.
I'm for re-releases also, but it should be characters that had a low production run. ER Astrotrain was a great example, as the Siege one never was stocked at any store around me. Inferno would be a good candidate for a 2022 re-release assuming there is no Kingdom wave 5,(I know it's been rumored..) or no wave re-packs as Wolfman mentioned.
I'm for re-releases also, but it should be characters that had a low production run. ER Astrotrain was a great example, as the Siege one never was stocked at any store around me. Inferno would be a good candidate for a 2022 re-release assuming there is no Kingdom wave 5,(I know it's been rumored..) or no wave re-packs as Wolfman mentioned.
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Posted by Rtron on June 4th, 2021 @ 5:09pm CDT
Posted by Rtron on June 4th, 2021 @ 5:09pm CDT
They seem to have fixed this very minor mistake:
(from emgo's review of Galvatron)
(from emgo's review of Galvatron)
Re: Kingdom Wave 3 Deluxes Out in Singapore Giving us a Look at the Packaging (2106542)
Posted by Nuclearxpotato on June 4th, 2021 @ 5:43pm CDT
Sunstreaker was more deserving of a reissue (especially with ER Sideswipe being moved to Kingdom).
However, the TR Jets are supposedly the next TR molds up for reissue in the Retro Headmasters line. I don't think rumours stated whether they'll have Siege or Legends Targetmasters, but I suspect it's the Siege ones.
Posted by Nuclearxpotato on June 4th, 2021 @ 5:43pm CDT
Nemesis Reformatted wrote: It's amazing how they felt the need to reissue Wheeljack again but never felt the need to reissue Titans Return Misfire, Windblade or Twin Twist. Wheeljack was already in Earthrise AND Netflix. I can't believe they would go for a 3rd round.
But I gave up on trying to make sense out of Hasbro long ago.
Sunstreaker was more deserving of a reissue (especially with ER Sideswipe being moved to Kingdom).
However, the TR Jets are supposedly the next TR molds up for reissue in the Retro Headmasters line. I don't think rumours stated whether they'll have Siege or Legends Targetmasters, but I suspect it's the Siege ones.
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Posted by Sowndwave76 on June 4th, 2021 @ 5:53pm CDT
Wow... I never saw one ER Prime, and saw multiple in Kingdom packaging the first week I saw any Kingdom figures at Target. Although other than seeing Megatron once, he's been the only leader class from Kingdom I've seen. Ever. And it was back during that first week (that second week there was still one left; back when they had a combo of TF figures on an endcap).
There have been 4 Kingdom Arcee's at the Target by me for over a month now.
What I hope is that Hastak has heard how many of us had trouble finding ER waves 2 & 3, and considers re-releasing multiples of those figures.
I had to look it up, but I figured out that I only ever saw Smokescreen (at an Aldi of all places) out of all of wave 2 and wave 3. And that was for all classes.
Call it bad luck, scalper city, or whatever, but bottom line is that's pretty ridiculous.
I was checking stores 2-3 times a week (both Target and Walmart).
I know Starscream is really popular... But man, I won't be surprised at all if this Kingdom release ends up being a shelf warmer. It really is too bad that Hastak could've have re-released Thrust, even if it was just at Target again.
Posted by Sowndwave76 on June 4th, 2021 @ 5:53pm CDT
o.supreme wrote:oddly enough, while I saw plenty of ER Optimus Prime, I've never seen one in Kingdom packaging at retail...Arcee, I've seen plenty of both.
I'm for re-releases also, but it should be characters that had a low production run. ER Astrotrain was a great example, as the Siege one never was stocked at any store around me. Inferno would be a good candidate for a 2022 re-release assuming there is no Kingdom wave 5,(I know it's been rumored..) or no wave re-packs as Wolfman mentioned.
Wow... I never saw one ER Prime, and saw multiple in Kingdom packaging the first week I saw any Kingdom figures at Target. Although other than seeing Megatron once, he's been the only leader class from Kingdom I've seen. Ever. And it was back during that first week (that second week there was still one left; back when they had a combo of TF figures on an endcap).
There have been 4 Kingdom Arcee's at the Target by me for over a month now.
What I hope is that Hastak has heard how many of us had trouble finding ER waves 2 & 3, and considers re-releasing multiples of those figures.
I had to look it up, but I figured out that I only ever saw Smokescreen (at an Aldi of all places) out of all of wave 2 and wave 3. And that was for all classes.
Call it bad luck, scalper city, or whatever, but bottom line is that's pretty ridiculous.
I was checking stores 2-3 times a week (both Target and Walmart).
I know Starscream is really popular... But man, I won't be surprised at all if this Kingdom release ends up being a shelf warmer. It really is too bad that Hastak could've have re-released Thrust, even if it was just at Target again.
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Posted by Sowndwave76 on June 4th, 2021 @ 6:14pm CDT
Yup... Agreed.
One of many I never saw. I get it, online retailers probably had plenty.
But he was one I was on the fence about, especially with the yellows looking so off in photos and in video reviews. Had I seen him in-person, I'm pretty sure I would've bought him.
Same goes for Trailbreaker, possibly the Allicon, and to a lesser extent, Runamuck.
The ER fiasco has taught me a lesson; if I see any figure I even think I remotely want, I buy it.
And for how often we go to stores, making a return is hardly an inconvenience.
Posted by Sowndwave76 on June 4th, 2021 @ 6:14pm CDT
Nuclearxpotato wrote:Sunstreaker was more deserving of a reissue (especially with ER Sideswipe being moved to Kingdom).
Yup... Agreed.
One of many I never saw. I get it, online retailers probably had plenty.
But he was one I was on the fence about, especially with the yellows looking so off in photos and in video reviews. Had I seen him in-person, I'm pretty sure I would've bought him.
Same goes for Trailbreaker, possibly the Allicon, and to a lesser extent, Runamuck.
The ER fiasco has taught me a lesson; if I see any figure I even think I remotely want, I buy it.
And for how often we go to stores, making a return is hardly an inconvenience.
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Posted by Tuned Agent on June 4th, 2021 @ 6:16pm CDT
Hold up, is that actually a rumor? Like, a credible one? Because I'll be HYPED if that happens.
Posted by Tuned Agent on June 4th, 2021 @ 6:16pm CDT
Nuclearxpotato wrote:However, the TR Jets are supposedly the next TR molds up for reissue in the Retro Headmasters line. I don't think rumours stated whether they'll have Siege or Legends Targetmasters, but I suspect it's the Siege ones.
Hold up, is that actually a rumor? Like, a credible one? Because I'll be HYPED if that happens.
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Posted by aronjlove on June 4th, 2021 @ 7:21pm CDT
Indeed, as I had heard, they specifically were NOT being done as they were not Headmasters, but Targetmasters and the retro label did not exactly apply to Targetmasters becoming Titanmasters.
Edit: And I could use a Triggerhappy
Posted by aronjlove on June 4th, 2021 @ 7:21pm CDT
Tuned Agent wrote:Nuclearxpotato wrote:However, the TR Jets are supposedly the next TR molds up for reissue in the Retro Headmasters line. I don't think rumours stated whether they'll have Siege or Legends Targetmasters, but I suspect it's the Siege ones.
Hold up, is that actually a rumor? Like, a credible one? Because I'll be HYPED if that happens.
Indeed, as I had heard, they specifically were NOT being done as they were not Headmasters, but Targetmasters and the retro label did not exactly apply to Targetmasters becoming Titanmasters.
Edit: And I could use a Triggerhappy
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Posted by Autobot N on June 4th, 2021 @ 7:34pm CDT
Posted by Autobot N on June 4th, 2021 @ 7:34pm CDT
Out of curiosity, where did you hear that?aronjlove wrote:Tuned Agent wrote:Nuclearxpotato wrote:However, the TR Jets are supposedly the next TR molds up for reissue in the Retro Headmasters line. I don't think rumours stated whether they'll have Siege or Legends Targetmasters, but I suspect it's the Siege ones.
Hold up, is that actually a rumor? Like, a credible one? Because I'll be HYPED if that happens.
Indeed, as I had heard, they specifically were NOT being done as they were not Headmasters, but Targetmasters and the retro label did not exactly apply to Targetmasters becoming Titanmasters.
Edit: And I could use a Triggerhappy
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Posted by aronjlove on June 4th, 2021 @ 7:38pm CDT
Post I saw on Reddit way back when the figures were first announced. Not anything concrete but the choices of the first two waves lead me to believe them.
Posted by aronjlove on June 4th, 2021 @ 7:38pm CDT
Autobot N wrote:Out of curiosity, where did you hear that?aronjlove wrote:Tuned Agent wrote:Nuclearxpotato wrote:However, the TR Jets are supposedly the next TR molds up for reissue in the Retro Headmasters line. I don't think rumours stated whether they'll have Siege or Legends Targetmasters, but I suspect it's the Siege ones.
Hold up, is that actually a rumor? Like, a credible one? Because I'll be HYPED if that happens.
Indeed, as I had heard, they specifically were NOT being done as they were not Headmasters, but Targetmasters and the retro label did not exactly apply to Targetmasters becoming Titanmasters.
Edit: And I could use a Triggerhappy
Post I saw on Reddit way back when the figures were first announced. Not anything concrete but the choices of the first two waves lead me to believe them.
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Posted by william-james88 on June 4th, 2021 @ 8:30pm CDT
Not a credible rumour. Right now, the Walmart exclusives for reissues are based on beaat wars. None of the credible leakers have stated the TR jets being reissued.
Posted by william-james88 on June 4th, 2021 @ 8:30pm CDT
Tuned Agent wrote:Nuclearxpotato wrote:However, the TR Jets are supposedly the next TR molds up for reissue in the Retro Headmasters line. I don't think rumours stated whether they'll have Siege or Legends Targetmasters, but I suspect it's the Siege ones.
Hold up, is that actually a rumor? Like, a credible one? Because I'll be HYPED if that happens.
Not a credible rumour. Right now, the Walmart exclusives for reissues are based on beaat wars. None of the credible leakers have stated the TR jets being reissued.
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Posted by Nuclearxpotato on June 4th, 2021 @ 8:48pm CDT
I think Wreck-Gar said it like, a month and a half back. I'm probably crossing wires, but I think the exact details involved the Jets being next in line for reissues if the current plans sell well.
Like I said, this is something I'm probably misremembering.
Posted by Nuclearxpotato on June 4th, 2021 @ 8:48pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Tuned Agent wrote:Nuclearxpotato wrote:However, the TR Jets are supposedly the next TR molds up for reissue in the Retro Headmasters line. I don't think rumours stated whether they'll have Siege or Legends Targetmasters, but I suspect it's the Siege ones.
Hold up, is that actually a rumor? Like, a credible one? Because I'll be HYPED if that happens.
Not a credible rumour. Right now, the Walmart exclusives for reissues are based on beaat wars. None of the credible leakers have stated the TR jets being reissued.
I think Wreck-Gar said it like, a month and a half back. I'm probably crossing wires, but I think the exact details involved the Jets being next in line for reissues if the current plans sell well.
Like I said, this is something I'm probably misremembering.
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Posted by Nuclearxpotato on June 4th, 2021 @ 10:25pm CDT
Posted by Nuclearxpotato on June 4th, 2021 @ 10:25pm CDT
Don't know where to say it (is there a Post-WFC thread?) but Wreck-Gar has stated that the Jr Headmasters (only Autobots so far :/ ) are coming to Legacy.
I think we're at the point to start coming to terms that we're not going back to Generations, we're going back to Generation 1 with three newer characters. If all the rumoured figures are in Evo, we already have over half the Deluxe slots filled out with G1 characters (8 by current counts), 1 BW (Tarantulas), and 2 Prime (Arcee and Knockout); no mention of Armada.
I think we're at the point to start coming to terms that we're not going back to Generations, we're going back to Generation 1 with three newer characters. If all the rumoured figures are in Evo, we already have over half the Deluxe slots filled out with G1 characters (8 by current counts), 1 BW (Tarantulas), and 2 Prime (Arcee and Knockout); no mention of Armada.
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Posted by william-james88 on June 4th, 2021 @ 11:33pm CDT
Right here: rumours-abound-new-transformers-legacy-line-and-studio-series-priorities-in-2022-p2106561.php#p2106561
Posted by william-james88 on June 4th, 2021 @ 11:33pm CDT
Nuclearxpotato wrote:Don't know where to say it (is there a Post-WFC thread?) .
Right here: rumours-abound-new-transformers-legacy-line-and-studio-series-priorities-in-2022-p2106561.php#p2106561
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Posted by Nuclearxpotato on June 5th, 2021 @ 1:21am CDT
Posted by Nuclearxpotato on June 5th, 2021 @ 1:21am CDT
william-james88 wrote:Nuclearxpotato wrote:Don't know where to say it (is there a Post-WFC thread?) .
Right here: rumours-abound-new-transformers-legacy-line-and-studio-series-priorities-in-2022-p2106561.php#p2106561
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Posted by Emerje on June 5th, 2021 @ 2:55am CDT
Prime Wars Trilogy followed very specific play patterns: combiners, Titan Masters, combiners and Prime Masters. At the time rereleasing Titan Masters would have been a step backwards when they were focused on a story about Primes instead of Titans. War for Cybertron Trilogy has been a little more fluid since the play pattern is things like effect parts and Weaponizers (et al) and carries through the whole trilogy.
Doesn't Starscream only get mentioned as a character because of the Core figure? The only "leak" I could find was this one back in August, but I'm pretty sure it was actually Earthrise Starscream since the screen says there's 2 on the floor.
Emerje
Posted by Emerje on June 5th, 2021 @ 2:55am CDT
Nemesis Reformatted wrote:william-james88 wrote:DeathReviews wrote:Is Wheeljack just a re-release of Earthrise then? Wonder if they simply took all the unsold ER Wheeljack figures and transferred them into Kingdom boxes...
It's just a rerelase. meaning that they produced more for this new line.
It's amazing how they felt the need to reissue Wheeljack again but never felt the need to reissue Titans Return Misfire, Windblade or Twin Twist. Wheeljack was already in Earthrise AND Netflix. I can't believe they would go for a 3rd round.
But I gave up on trying to make sense out of Hasbro long ago.
Prime Wars Trilogy followed very specific play patterns: combiners, Titan Masters, combiners and Prime Masters. At the time rereleasing Titan Masters would have been a step backwards when they were focused on a story about Primes instead of Titans. War for Cybertron Trilogy has been a little more fluid since the play pattern is things like effect parts and Weaponizers (et al) and carries through the whole trilogy.
aronjlove wrote:That's right, Starscream is mentioned in the Battle Across Time descriptions. Huh, wonder what is going to differentiate him from the ER release.
Doesn't Starscream only get mentioned as a character because of the Core figure? The only "leak" I could find was this one back in August, but I'm pretty sure it was actually Earthrise Starscream since the screen says there's 2 on the floor.
Emerje
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Posted by Jeddostotle7 on June 5th, 2021 @ 3:13am CDT
Earthrise Starscream's DPCI is 087-16-9987, though, while this one is different (like the other Kingdom repacks of ER figures were). The reason it says "2 on floor" is probably just the system looking at the entirety of the "WFC Voyager" assortment rather than the specific item.
Posted by Jeddostotle7 on June 5th, 2021 @ 3:13am CDT
Emerje wrote:Nemesis Reformatted wrote:william-james88 wrote:DeathReviews wrote:Is Wheeljack just a re-release of Earthrise then? Wonder if they simply took all the unsold ER Wheeljack figures and transferred them into Kingdom boxes...
It's just a rerelase. meaning that they produced more for this new line.
It's amazing how they felt the need to reissue Wheeljack again but never felt the need to reissue Titans Return Misfire, Windblade or Twin Twist. Wheeljack was already in Earthrise AND Netflix. I can't believe they would go for a 3rd round.
But I gave up on trying to make sense out of Hasbro long ago.
Prime Wars Trilogy followed very specific play patterns: combiners, Titan Masters, combiners and Prime Masters. At the time rereleasing Titan Masters would have been a step backwards when they were focused on a story about Primes instead of Titans. War for Cybertron Trilogy has been a little more fluid since the play pattern is things like effect parts and Weaponizers (et al) and carries through the whole trilogy.aronjlove wrote:That's right, Starscream is mentioned in the Battle Across Time descriptions. Huh, wonder what is going to differentiate him from the ER release.
Doesn't Starscream only get mentioned as a character because of the Core figure? The only "leak" I could find was this one back in August, but I'm pretty sure it was actually Earthrise Starscream since the screen says there's 2 on the floor.
Emerje
Earthrise Starscream's DPCI is 087-16-9987, though, while this one is different (like the other Kingdom repacks of ER figures were). The reason it says "2 on floor" is probably just the system looking at the entirety of the "WFC Voyager" assortment rather than the specific item.
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Posted by Emerje on June 5th, 2021 @ 3:35am CDT
Actually scratch what I said, it's probably the SS86 Starscream from when he was originally supposed to be a Voyager before getting bumped up to Leader. Starscream's numbers match up with SS86 Scourge while the Kingdom figures match each other.
Starscream 087 06 5839
Scourge 087 06 5839
Optimus Primal 087 16 9183
Tigatron 087 16 9183
And those Kingdom Voyager figures use the same 087 16 as Earthrise while both Scourge and Starscream show "2 on floor" since they carry the same DPCI through the line at Target.
Emerje
Posted by Emerje on June 5th, 2021 @ 3:35am CDT
Jeddostotle7 wrote:Earthrise Starscream's DPCI is 087-16-9987, though, while this one is different (like the other Kingdom repacks of ER figures were). The reason it says "2 on floor" is probably just the system looking at the entirety of the "WFC Voyager" assortment rather than the specific item.
Actually scratch what I said, it's probably the SS86 Starscream from when he was originally supposed to be a Voyager before getting bumped up to Leader. Starscream's numbers match up with SS86 Scourge while the Kingdom figures match each other.
Starscream 087 06 5839
Scourge 087 06 5839
Optimus Primal 087 16 9183
Tigatron 087 16 9183
And those Kingdom Voyager figures use the same 087 16 as Earthrise while both Scourge and Starscream show "2 on floor" since they carry the same DPCI through the line at Target.
Emerje
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Posted by Jeddostotle7 on June 5th, 2021 @ 3:40am CDT
That would make a lot more sense, yeah.
Posted by Jeddostotle7 on June 5th, 2021 @ 3:40am CDT
Emerje wrote:Jeddostotle7 wrote:Earthrise Starscream's DPCI is 087-16-9987, though, while this one is different (like the other Kingdom repacks of ER figures were). The reason it says "2 on floor" is probably just the system looking at the entirety of the "WFC Voyager" assortment rather than the specific item.
Actually scratch what I said, it's probably the SS86 Starscream from when he was originally supposed to be a Voyager before getting bumped up to Leader. Starscream's numbers match up with SS86 Scourge while the Kingdom figures match each other.
Starscream 087 06 5839
Scourge 087 06 5839
Optimus Primal 087 16 9183
Tigatron 087 16 9183
And those Kingdom Voyager figures use the same 087 16 as Earthrise while both Scourge and Starscream show "2 on floor" since they carry the same DPCI through the line at Target.
Emerje
That would make a lot more sense, yeah.
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Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on June 5th, 2021 @ 12:14pm CDT
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on June 5th, 2021 @ 12:14pm CDT
*starts planning the Fossilizer combiner* Now for a name...
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Posted by JazztfLaw on June 5th, 2021 @ 9:46pm CDT
Posted by JazztfLaw on June 5th, 2021 @ 9:46pm CDT
My local stores still have Wave 1 figures on the shelves. I'm actually scared to even check anymore because it's been the same ones for about 2 months now.
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Posted by Nemesis Primal on June 7th, 2021 @ 12:44am CDT
Gravemaker?
Marrow-whack?
...wait a minute-
Posted by Nemesis Primal on June 7th, 2021 @ 12:44am CDT
Boneyard?Jelze Bunnycat wrote:*starts planning the Fossilizer combiner* Now for a name...
Gravemaker?
Marrow-whack?
...wait a minute-
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Posted by Autobot N on June 7th, 2021 @ 8:45am CDT
Posted by Autobot N on June 7th, 2021 @ 8:45am CDT
BonertronNemesis Primal wrote:Boneyard?Jelze Bunnycat wrote:*starts planning the Fossilizer combiner* Now for a name...
Gravemaker?
Marrow-whack?
...wait a minute-
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Posted by Sabrblade on June 7th, 2021 @ 9:32am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on June 7th, 2021 @ 9:32am CDT
Bonecrusher
Gravedigger
Gravedigger
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Posted by Razorbeast88 on June 7th, 2021 @ 9:34am CDT
Posted by Razorbeast88 on June 7th, 2021 @ 9:34am CDT
Paleonite..finger
