Kingdom Road Rage found in Target Stores
Tuesday, October 12th, 2021 8:09AM CDT
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Transformers Kingdom Road Rage was a redcard exclusive preorder but it is now showing up in stores. It started showing up last week and we got a few sightings of Road Rage from various states like Idaho and Maryland to name a few. You can purchase this in stores without having a Red Card.
If you want to check out a review before being sure to purchase, especially since that Tracks mold has been getting a real kicking, here is a review from fellow Seibertronian Chuckdawg1999.
If you want to check out a review before being sure to purchase, especially since that Tracks mold has been getting a real kicking, here is a review from fellow Seibertronian Chuckdawg1999.
chuckdawg1999 wrote:I don't want to jinx anything, but Road Rage feels like some of the issues that I experienced with Tracks are fixed. Unfortunately, the mold still feels off with the plastic still feeling incredibly brittle. I can't recommend this figure 100% but if you want to roll the dice the choice is yours.
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Re: Kingdom Road Rage found in Target Stores (2118315)
Posted by daedalus25 on October 12th, 2021 @ 8:39am CDT
Posted by daedalus25 on October 12th, 2021 @ 8:39am CDT
I would feel miffed that Road Rage is showing up in stores after being led to believe it was a Red Card exclusive, but by signing up for a Red Card online I got a $50 Target coupon and now get 5% off on purchases, so I can't complain about that.
Re: Kingdom Road Rage found in Target Stores (2118316)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on October 12th, 2021 @ 8:40am CDT
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on October 12th, 2021 @ 8:40am CDT
Good to know. The one I got from Target in the mail is a floppy mess. Hopefully I can see enough into the package to see the pins on the legs to see if they are better than the one I got.
Re: Kingdom Road Rage found in Target Stores (2118317)
Posted by william-james88 on October 12th, 2021 @ 8:53am CDT
Can't you just push in the pins and the legs won't be as floppy?
Posted by william-james88 on October 12th, 2021 @ 8:53am CDT
TF-fan kev777 wrote:Good to know. The one I got from Target in the mail is a floppy mess. Hopefully I can see enough into the package to see the pins on the legs to see if they are better than the one I got.
Can't you just push in the pins and the legs won't be as floppy?
Re: Kingdom Road Rage found in Target Stores (2118323)
Posted by Glarryg on October 12th, 2021 @ 10:02am CDT
I thought this might happen, but I'm still glad I went through all the rigamarole anyway. They never had Runabout available in any of my local stores, so if I hadn't ordered that one online I would have missed it. I missed out on Redwing by not ordering online, but that's not as big a deal to me. What's angering me is that Origins Bumblebee not only isn't showing up in the stores, it's also not available on Target's website.
Glarryg
Posted by Glarryg on October 12th, 2021 @ 10:02am CDT
william-james88 wrote:Transformers Kingdom Road Rage was a redcard exclusive preorder but it is now showing up in stores. It started showing up last week and we got a few sightings of Road Rage from various states like Idaho and Maryland to name a few. You can purchase this in stores without having a Red Card.
I thought this might happen, but I'm still glad I went through all the rigamarole anyway. They never had Runabout available in any of my local stores, so if I hadn't ordered that one online I would have missed it. I missed out on Redwing by not ordering online, but that's not as big a deal to me. What's angering me is that Origins Bumblebee not only isn't showing up in the stores, it's also not available on Target's website.
Glarryg
Re: Kingdom Road Rage found in Target Stores (2118326)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on October 12th, 2021 @ 11:07am CDT
Yes, but the area around the pin holes already has some stress marks. I'm going to try, but if it makes things worse, it is nice to know I might be able to easily get another.
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on October 12th, 2021 @ 11:07am CDT
william-james88 wrote:TF-fan kev777 wrote:Good to know. The one I got from Target in the mail is a floppy mess. Hopefully I can see enough into the package to see the pins on the legs to see if they are better than the one I got.
Can't you just push in the pins and the legs won't be as floppy?
Yes, but the area around the pin holes already has some stress marks. I'm going to try, but if it makes things worse, it is nice to know I might be able to easily get another.
Re: Kingdom Road Rage found in Target Stores (2118339)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on October 12th, 2021 @ 12:57pm CDT
We got TONS of Origin Bumblebees in Minnesota. They arrived in August and you can still find them easily enough in stores, though the numbers have dwindled. While the Kingdom and Studio Series pegs were empty for months this summer, Buzzworthy Bumblebee stuff just kept pouring in.
Posted by Wolfman Jake on October 12th, 2021 @ 12:57pm CDT
Glarryg wrote:What's angering me is that Origins Bumblebee not only isn't showing up in the stores, it's also not available on Target's website.
Glarryg
We got TONS of Origin Bumblebees in Minnesota. They arrived in August and you can still find them easily enough in stores, though the numbers have dwindled. While the Kingdom and Studio Series pegs were empty for months this summer, Buzzworthy Bumblebee stuff just kept pouring in.
Re: Kingdom Road Rage found in Target Stores (2118340)
Posted by o.supreme on October 12th, 2021 @ 1:06pm CDT
Agreed on all counts except for the origins BB himself. While it seems like plenty were made, distribution was way uneven on this one. I saw pics of some Target stores with Dozens of them, and some like my area, I saw it once, and then gone. It doesn't effect me personally, but yeah I'd be a little irked if I was one of the ones that really wanted it, and none came to my area, while others were just warming pegs elsewhere. Its too bad Walmart and Target didn't have a system whereby instead of ordering more product from the warehouse directly, they could shift inventory internally.
*Example* If your store in Omaha NB has 20 Origin BB that are just sitting around not selling, and a store a few cities over on the same trucking route has none, and wants 10 of them, ship them, over, so they will sell, just as an example.
Posted by o.supreme on October 12th, 2021 @ 1:06pm CDT
Wolfman Jake wrote:Buzzworthy Bumblebee stuff just kept pouring in.
Agreed on all counts except for the origins BB himself. While it seems like plenty were made, distribution was way uneven on this one. I saw pics of some Target stores with Dozens of them, and some like my area, I saw it once, and then gone. It doesn't effect me personally, but yeah I'd be a little irked if I was one of the ones that really wanted it, and none came to my area, while others were just warming pegs elsewhere. Its too bad Walmart and Target didn't have a system whereby instead of ordering more product from the warehouse directly, they could shift inventory internally.
*Example* If your store in Omaha NB has 20 Origin BB that are just sitting around not selling, and a store a few cities over on the same trucking route has none, and wants 10 of them, ship them, over, so they will sell, just as an example.
Re: Kingdom Road Rage found in Target Stores (2118341)
Posted by sol magnus on October 12th, 2021 @ 1:09pm CDT
Obviously, even all the way out here I'm not trying to say 'distribution bad' on Origin Bumblebee, I will say I barely got the two the I got before they all seemed to dry up. I finally got a World's Collide, but that seems like it was due to a restock. I think we'll see Origin Bee come back around at some point, too.
Posted by sol magnus on October 12th, 2021 @ 1:09pm CDT
o.supreme wrote:Wolfman Jake wrote:Buzzworthy Bumblebee stuff just kept pouring in.
Agreed on all counts except for the origins BB himself. While it seems like plenty were made, distribution was way uneven on this one. I saw pics of some Target stores with Dozens of them, and some like my area, I saw it once, and then gone. It doesn't effect me personally, but yeah I'd be a little irked if I was one of the ones that really wanted it, and none came to my area, while others were just warming pegs elsewhere. Its too bad Walmart and Target didn't have a system whereby instead of ordering more product from the warehouse directly, they could shift inventory internally.
*Example* If your store in Omaha NB has 20 Origin BB that are just sitting around not selling, and a store a few cities over on the same trucking route has none, and wants 10 of them, ship them, over, so they will sell, just as an example.
Obviously, even all the way out here I'm not trying to say 'distribution bad' on Origin Bumblebee, I will say I barely got the two the I got before they all seemed to dry up. I finally got a World's Collide, but that seems like it was due to a restock. I think we'll see Origin Bee come back around at some point, too.
Re: Kingdom Road Rage found in Target Stores (2118399)
Posted by Emerje on October 12th, 2021 @ 10:28pm CDT
Posted by Emerje on October 12th, 2021 @ 10:28pm CDT
The only Origins Bumblebee I've seen at Target is the one I bought and the only reason it was still there was because the box was completely crushed and probably nobody wanted to take a chance on it being broken. I figured it was my one shot at getting one so I took the chance and thankfully it was fine.
Still haven't been able to find the Worlds Collide set yet despite checking constantly, spurned on by others saying they've been finding heavy restocks lately.
I'm still waiting for my Roadrage to show up. It shipped on Oct 1st and just sat in Oregon until Oct 5th after a long delay by UPS, slowly worked it way across the country until it finally arrived at the local UPS facility on October 9th, somehow got transferred to the USPS during a federal holiday Monday, was supposed to be delivered Tuesday (both Target and UPS say it was, it wasn't), and now USPS is saying it got delayed to Wednesday. *Sigh*
Emerje
Still haven't been able to find the Worlds Collide set yet despite checking constantly, spurned on by others saying they've been finding heavy restocks lately.
I'm still waiting for my Roadrage to show up. It shipped on Oct 1st and just sat in Oregon until Oct 5th after a long delay by UPS, slowly worked it way across the country until it finally arrived at the local UPS facility on October 9th, somehow got transferred to the USPS during a federal holiday Monday, was supposed to be delivered Tuesday (both Target and UPS say it was, it wasn't), and now USPS is saying it got delayed to Wednesday. *Sigh*
Emerje
Re: Kingdom Road Rage found in Target Stores (2118438)
Posted by Till-all-R1 on October 13th, 2021 @ 12:11pm CDT
Speaking of, where I used to work we had the option to do store to store transfers for a customer, so if you have the product number of the item you wanted we'd look it up and call the closest one and have it shipped to us. Then contact said customer that it has arrived, of course this was all before the whole ship to home era thus we started to phase out doing it because it required hands on attention.
I don't know how many other retailers might offer this as a "customer service" feature, especially in today's ship to home era but it might be worth a try if you local areas is barren and the option to ship never pops up.
Posted by Till-all-R1 on October 13th, 2021 @ 12:11pm CDT
o.supreme wrote:Wolfman Jake wrote:Buzzworthy Bumblebee stuff just kept pouring in.
*Example* If your store in Omaha NB has 20 Origin BB that are just sitting around not selling, and a store a few cities over on the same trucking route has none, and wants 10 of them, ship them, over, so they will sell, just as an example.
Speaking of, where I used to work we had the option to do store to store transfers for a customer, so if you have the product number of the item you wanted we'd look it up and call the closest one and have it shipped to us. Then contact said customer that it has arrived, of course this was all before the whole ship to home era thus we started to phase out doing it because it required hands on attention.
I don't know how many other retailers might offer this as a "customer service" feature, especially in today's ship to home era but it might be worth a try if you local areas is barren and the option to ship never pops up.
Re: Kingdom Road Rage found in Target Stores (2118446)
Posted by william-james88 on October 13th, 2021 @ 2:27pm CDT
I don't know bout the US but in Canada Gamestop ships store to store. Toysrus and Walmart do not.
Posted by william-james88 on October 13th, 2021 @ 2:27pm CDT
Till-all-R1 wrote:o.supreme wrote:Wolfman Jake wrote:Buzzworthy Bumblebee stuff just kept pouring in.
*Example* If your store in Omaha NB has 20 Origin BB that are just sitting around not selling, and a store a few cities over on the same trucking route has none, and wants 10 of them, ship them, over, so they will sell, just as an example.
Speaking of, where I used to work we had the option to do store to store transfers for a customer, so if you have the product number of the item you wanted we'd look it up and call the closest one and have it shipped to us. Then contact said customer that it has arrived, of course this was all before the whole ship to home era thus we started to phase out doing it because it required hands on attention.
I don't know how many other retailers might offer this as a "customer service" feature, especially in today's ship to home era but it might be worth a try if you local areas is barren and the option to ship never pops up.
I don't know bout the US but in Canada Gamestop ships store to store. Toysrus and Walmart do not.
Re: Kingdom Road Rage found in Target Stores (2118493)
Posted by Autobot_Benz on October 14th, 2021 @ 4:33pm CDT
Posted by Autobot_Benz on October 14th, 2021 @ 4:33pm CDT
Surprised the site hasn't posted that Waspinator and Shadow Panther are up on Amazon for pre-order $22.99 with a November release date.Just click other sellers for them. Tigatron was up very shortly but didn't last long
Re: Kingdom Road Rage found in Target Stores (2118508)
Posted by Overcracker on October 14th, 2021 @ 6:58pm CDT
Posted by Overcracker on October 14th, 2021 @ 6:58pm CDT
Well, it happened. Amazon cancelled my Tigatron Pre-Order due to lack of availability.
Now I’ll have to find somewhere else to get him from.
Now I’ll have to find somewhere else to get him from.
Re: Kingdom Road Rage found in Target Stores (2118514)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on October 14th, 2021 @ 7:24pm CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on October 14th, 2021 @ 7:24pm CDT
I managed to get a Tigatron preorder, due in a couple weeks. I am excited for him.
I did get Road Rage over the weekend. This is my first handling of the mold, and I think it will be the last. She is honestly pretty terrible. robot mode is a sloppy mess, transformation is a lot like Rhinox in that it is a clunky mess. Car mode is insecure, as is flying car mode. This is a case where the MP is better, and the generations figure used the MP as a goby, but it really should not have used it as a goby, and it's a case where the generations figure should have easily been better.
I did get Road Rage over the weekend. This is my first handling of the mold, and I think it will be the last. She is honestly pretty terrible. robot mode is a sloppy mess, transformation is a lot like Rhinox in that it is a clunky mess. Car mode is insecure, as is flying car mode. This is a case where the MP is better, and the generations figure used the MP as a goby, but it really should not have used it as a goby, and it's a case where the generations figure should have easily been better.
Re: Kingdom Road Rage found in Target Stores (2118587)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on October 15th, 2021 @ 7:56pm CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on October 15th, 2021 @ 7:56pm CDT
Took Road Rage to work today. I really want her to be good, but she isn't. I think she might only be beat by the Chromia mold in terms of weakest WFC figure
Re: Kingdom Road Rage found in Target Stores (2118592)
Posted by Overcracker on October 15th, 2021 @ 8:28pm CDT
Posted by Overcracker on October 15th, 2021 @ 8:28pm CDT
Yes, the Tracks mold in general is one of the weaker deluxe cars in the WFC trilogy.
Chromia suffers from having a mold designed to be a combiner limb, but having the combiner bits taken out, so ends up being a lack luster deluxe, since she still has all the compromises of her combiner enabled brethren err. (Sistren?) without the combining feature for which it was compromised.
I think the Wheeljack / Sunstreaker molds are the better ones with Sideswipe in close second.
Chromia suffers from having a mold designed to be a combiner limb, but having the combiner bits taken out, so ends up being a lack luster deluxe, since she still has all the compromises of her combiner enabled brethren err. (Sistren?) without the combining feature for which it was compromised.
I think the Wheeljack / Sunstreaker molds are the better ones with Sideswipe in close second.
Re: Kingdom Road Rage found in Target Stores (2118657)
Posted by Nuclearxpotato on October 16th, 2021 @ 4:50pm CDT
Tracks, Arcee, Rhinox, and Chromia seem to be the weakest molds in WFC (excluding the smaller molds since Hasbro kinda abandoned that idea).
Posted by Nuclearxpotato on October 16th, 2021 @ 4:50pm CDT
Overcracker wrote:Yes, the Tracks mold in general is one of the weaker deluxe cars in the WFC trilogy.
Tracks, Arcee, Rhinox, and Chromia seem to be the weakest molds in WFC (excluding the smaller molds since Hasbro kinda abandoned that idea).
Re: Kingdom Road Rage found in Target Stores (2118658)
Posted by sol magnus on October 16th, 2021 @ 4:54pm CDT
It's funny people's opinions of 'weak' molds. I'm not saying they're 'great' molds, but Chromia has been used as the star in a stop motion animation series (Zeta Squad). It's all in what you're gonna use it for, I guess.
Posted by sol magnus on October 16th, 2021 @ 4:54pm CDT
Nuclearxpotato wrote:Overcracker wrote:Yes, the Tracks mold in general is one of the weaker deluxe cars in the WFC trilogy.
Tracks, Arcee, Rhinox, and Chromia seem to be the weakest molds in WFC (excluding the smaller molds since Hasbro kinda abandoned that idea).
It's funny people's opinions of 'weak' molds. I'm not saying they're 'great' molds, but Chromia has been used as the star in a stop motion animation series (Zeta Squad). It's all in what you're gonna use it for, I guess.
Re: Kingdom Road Rage found in Target Stores (2118659)
Posted by o.supreme on October 16th, 2021 @ 6:28pm CDT
Posted by o.supreme on October 16th, 2021 @ 6:28pm CDT
Just an interesting experience I had today. At Target the only Kingdom toy on the shelves was a single Road Rage. Not on my want list but it was good to see. I know we talk about kids vs collectors, who the toys are for and who actually buys them. I believe Hasbro has previously stated that recently the ratio seems to be about 70% comes from parents buying for kids and 30% is collectors.
I'm not saying they are right or wrong, but I do hear from many saying the toy industry would obviously not survive without kids which I tend to agree. However with the exception of holidays, I hardly ever see anyone else buying toys. Today was a rare occurrence though. A kid actually picked up the Road Rage toy and the parent was going to buy it for him. I couldn't help but think that the kid had no idea how fortunate he is. He had no idea it is a store " exclusive". He just saw it and liked it. It was just cool to see something I often hear about, but don't actually witness.
I'm not saying they are right or wrong, but I do hear from many saying the toy industry would obviously not survive without kids which I tend to agree. However with the exception of holidays, I hardly ever see anyone else buying toys. Today was a rare occurrence though. A kid actually picked up the Road Rage toy and the parent was going to buy it for him. I couldn't help but think that the kid had no idea how fortunate he is. He had no idea it is a store " exclusive". He just saw it and liked it. It was just cool to see something I often hear about, but don't actually witness.
Re: Kingdom Road Rage found in Target Stores (2118662)
Posted by Nuclearxpotato on October 16th, 2021 @ 6:57pm CDT
Now that I think about it, Chromia probably isn't so much weak as she's just average. The origins from PotP probably started her on a bad foot.
Posted by Nuclearxpotato on October 16th, 2021 @ 6:57pm CDT
sol magnus wrote:Nuclearxpotato wrote:Overcracker wrote:Yes, the Tracks mold in general is one of the weaker deluxe cars in the WFC trilogy.
Tracks, Arcee, Rhinox, and Chromia seem to be the weakest molds in WFC (excluding the smaller molds since Hasbro kinda abandoned that idea).
It's funny people's opinions of 'weak' molds. I'm not saying they're 'great' molds, but Chromia has been used as the star in a stop motion animation series (Zeta Squad). It's all in what you're gonna use it for, I guess.
Now that I think about it, Chromia probably isn't so much weak as she's just average. The origins from PotP probably started her on a bad foot.
Re: Kingdom Road Rage found in Target Stores (2118663)
Posted by Overcracker on October 16th, 2021 @ 7:00pm CDT
Don’t own Arcee, so can’t really comment on her.
As for Rhinox, I think he could have been better. The transformation is awkward but both Rhino and Robot modes are quite good.
I think the inaccurate head and a really awkward transformation cause people to not like his as much.
Posted by Overcracker on October 16th, 2021 @ 7:00pm CDT
sol magnus wrote:Nuclearxpotato wrote:Overcracker wrote:Yes, the Tracks mold in general is one of the weaker deluxe cars in the WFC trilogy.
Tracks, Arcee, Rhinox, and Chromia seem to be the weakest molds in WFC (excluding the smaller molds since Hasbro kinda abandoned that idea).
It's funny people's opinions of 'weak' molds. I'm not saying they're 'great' molds, but Chromia has been used as the star in a stop motion animation series (Zeta Squad). It's all in what you're gonna use it for, I guess.
Don’t own Arcee, so can’t really comment on her.
As for Rhinox, I think he could have been better. The transformation is awkward but both Rhino and Robot modes are quite good.
I think the inaccurate head and a really awkward transformation cause people to not like his as much.
Re: Kingdom Road Rage found in Target Stores (2118664)
Posted by Sabrblade on October 16th, 2021 @ 7:17pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on October 16th, 2021 @ 7:17pm CDT
To be fair, for those who want to use the character but don't own the Thrilling 30 mold from seven years ago (and who don't want to buy it off BBTS), their present-day options are kinda limited to just the Siege mold.sol magnus wrote:It's funny people's opinions of 'weak' molds. I'm not saying they're 'great' molds, but Chromia has been used as the star in a stop motion animation series (Zeta Squad). It's all in what you're gonna use it for, I guess.
Re: Kingdom Road Rage found in Target Stores (2118713)
Posted by william-james88 on October 17th, 2021 @ 4:45pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on October 17th, 2021 @ 4:45pm CDT
I feel like writing a site articke called "Hot Take, Kingdom Tracks is better than MP Tracks".
Re: Kingdom Road Rage found in Target Stores (2118714)
Posted by Autobot N on October 17th, 2021 @ 4:51pm CDT
Posted by Autobot N on October 17th, 2021 @ 4:51pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:I feel like writing a site articke called "Hot Take, Kingdom Tracks is better than MP Tracks".
Re: Kingdom Road Rage found in Target Stores (2118716)
Posted by Overcracker on October 17th, 2021 @ 4:58pm CDT
Posted by Overcracker on October 17th, 2021 @ 4:58pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:I feel like writing a site articke called "Hot Take, Kingdom Tracks is better than MP Tracks".
Re: Kingdom Road Rage found in Target Stores (2118717)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on October 17th, 2021 @ 5:03pm CDT
I had MP Roadrage before. I dumped her at my local geek store for store credits without a care. She wasn't really good.
At least the old Generations RTS deluxe Tracks wasn't too bad if I base my Judgement on Wheeljack, his moldmate. I wonder how the G1 original measure up against other G1 autobot cars of the time?
Posted by -Kanrabat- on October 17th, 2021 @ 5:03pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:I feel like writing a site articke called "Hot Take, Kingdom Tracks is better than MP Tracks".
I had MP Roadrage before. I dumped her at my local geek store for store credits without a care. She wasn't really good.
At least the old Generations RTS deluxe Tracks wasn't too bad if I base my Judgement on Wheeljack, his moldmate. I wonder how the G1 original measure up against other G1 autobot cars of the time?
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Posted by william-james88 on October 17th, 2021 @ 11:46pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on October 17th, 2021 @ 11:46pm CDT
Let me know though. I know what makes MP tracks bad, but what makes Kingdom tracks so bad?
Re: Kingdom Road Rage found in Target Stores (2118735)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on October 18th, 2021 @ 4:44am CDT
Legs issues as I heard.
Still haven't transform it yet?
Posted by -Kanrabat- on October 18th, 2021 @ 4:44am CDT
william-james88 wrote:Let me know though. I know what makes MP tracks bad, but what makes Kingdom tracks so bad?
Legs issues as I heard.
Still haven't transform it yet?
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Posted by Gauntlet101010 on October 18th, 2021 @ 7:08am CDT
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on October 18th, 2021 @ 7:08am CDT
I think Kingdom Tracks is alright. The feet are weird, sure, but it's no deal breaker for me. All that clear plastic is a worry for the future, though.
I have RTS Tracks and like Kingdom more mainly because I don't think the chunkiness of the RTS mold really suits Tracks. I like it for Wheeljack just fine and haven't replaced him.
I have RTS Tracks and like Kingdom more mainly because I don't think the chunkiness of the RTS mold really suits Tracks. I like it for Wheeljack just fine and haven't replaced him.
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Posted by TF-fan kev777 on October 18th, 2021 @ 7:35am CDT
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on October 18th, 2021 @ 7:35am CDT
Tracks suffers from an overly complicated leg transformation that is really fiddly combined with bad QC on the same legs.
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Posted by Wolfman Jake on October 18th, 2021 @ 10:53am CDT
Kingdom Tracks isn’t bad. My only problem with it is that it needs more paint apps. It’s not just missing some toy sticker details, but a bunch of animation character model details too. As a figure, it looks the part in both modes. I think the transformation is clever. The legs aren’t bad at all. It’s just a newish mechanism that takes some time to learn. You have to manipulate two pivot points at once. It isn’t hard. The legs are pretty loose, though, so it’s a pain if you want to play with the figure, but if all you want to do is display it, there’s really no issue. A lot of people are just very averse to clear plastic too, just for fear of breakage, but I think it’s an overblown issue.
Posted by Wolfman Jake on October 18th, 2021 @ 10:53am CDT
william-james88 wrote:Let me know though. I know what makes MP tracks bad, but what makes Kingdom tracks so bad?
Kingdom Tracks isn’t bad. My only problem with it is that it needs more paint apps. It’s not just missing some toy sticker details, but a bunch of animation character model details too. As a figure, it looks the part in both modes. I think the transformation is clever. The legs aren’t bad at all. It’s just a newish mechanism that takes some time to learn. You have to manipulate two pivot points at once. It isn’t hard. The legs are pretty loose, though, so it’s a pain if you want to play with the figure, but if all you want to do is display it, there’s really no issue. A lot of people are just very averse to clear plastic too, just for fear of breakage, but I think it’s an overblown issue.
Re: Kingdom Road Rage found in Target Stores (2118756)
Posted by Overcracker on October 18th, 2021 @ 11:30am CDT
Posted by Overcracker on October 18th, 2021 @ 11:30am CDT
Being the weakest figure does not make him outright terrible. The legs are a big issue in both modes as both the tabs and the pegs are too shallow for any type of secure purchase.
Pushing the pins in helps but does not solve the issue entirely.
The Windshield roof section is super thin translucent plastic and the tightness with which it pegs into the hood pieces is concerning.
The MP just suffers a bit from over engineering. The transformation is a bit awkward.. But both modes are excellent and hold together fine. It's also interesting that they share a similar lower leg transformation with the floating foot. Though MP works much much better than Kingdom.
The simplicity of the G1 figure has yet to me matched.
The Reveal the Shield version is just fine.
Pushing the pins in helps but does not solve the issue entirely.
The Windshield roof section is super thin translucent plastic and the tightness with which it pegs into the hood pieces is concerning.
The MP just suffers a bit from over engineering. The transformation is a bit awkward.. But both modes are excellent and hold together fine. It's also interesting that they share a similar lower leg transformation with the floating foot. Though MP works much much better than Kingdom.
The simplicity of the G1 figure has yet to me matched.
The Reveal the Shield version is just fine.
Re: Kingdom Road Rage found in Target Stores (2118760)
Posted by william-james88 on October 18th, 2021 @ 11:54am CDT
I have, hence my controversial statement(not that anyone loved the MP)
I think 3 things are helping me here:
1. I got Rhinox first and those legs are waaaay more complicated to the point where they should have just stuck with the standard transformation of having his Rhino feet be his robot feet.
2. My Tracks comes from wave 4. Could it be that there was indeed a running change? True, the leg side panels don't tab in much but the friction on mine was ok enough that it didn't really cause a problem and the ankles are good and tight (but the hips are not)
3. I don't think I ever expected less from a Transfomer after reading all the criticism, so my expectations were low low low.
Posted by william-james88 on October 18th, 2021 @ 11:54am CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:william-james88 wrote:Let me know though. I know what makes MP tracks bad, but what makes Kingdom tracks so bad?
Legs issues as I heard.
Still haven't transform it yet?
I have, hence my controversial statement(not that anyone loved the MP)
TF-fan kev777 wrote:Tracks suffers from an overly complicated leg transformation that is really fiddly combined with bad QC on the same legs.
I think 3 things are helping me here:
1. I got Rhinox first and those legs are waaaay more complicated to the point where they should have just stuck with the standard transformation of having his Rhino feet be his robot feet.
2. My Tracks comes from wave 4. Could it be that there was indeed a running change? True, the leg side panels don't tab in much but the friction on mine was ok enough that it didn't really cause a problem and the ankles are good and tight (but the hips are not)
3. I don't think I ever expected less from a Transfomer after reading all the criticism, so my expectations were low low low.
Re: Kingdom Road Rage found in Target Stores (2118762)
Posted by sol magnus on October 18th, 2021 @ 12:03pm CDT
I love mine. Maybe not as much as others, but I still have him when I sold off the majority of my Masterpiece collection. Then again, he is one of my sentimental favorites in the 'get the ones I had as a kid' department.
If you ho by that, why are you buying anything at all?
Posted by sol magnus on October 18th, 2021 @ 12:03pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:william-james88 wrote:Let me know though. I know what makes MP tracks bad, but what makes Kingdom tracks so bad?
Legs issues as I heard.
Still haven't transform it yet?
I have, hence my controversial statement(not that anyone loved the MP)
I love mine. Maybe not as much as others, but I still have him when I sold off the majority of my Masterpiece collection. Then again, he is one of my sentimental favorites in the 'get the ones I had as a kid' department.
3. I don't think I ever expected less from a Transfomer after reading all the criticism, so my expectations were low low low.
If you ho by that, why are you buying anything at all?
Re: Kingdom Road Rage found in Target Stores (2118771)
Posted by william-james88 on October 18th, 2021 @ 12:43pm CDT
I really love trying out new molds, I want to experience as many as I can. So I was always gonna get tracks
Posted by william-james88 on October 18th, 2021 @ 12:43pm CDT
sol magnus wrote:william-james88 wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:william-james88 wrote:Let me know though. I know what makes MP tracks bad, but what makes Kingdom tracks so bad?
Legs issues as I heard.
Still haven't transform it yet?
I have, hence my controversial statement(not that anyone loved the MP)
I love mine. Maybe not as much as others, but I still have him when I sold off the majority of my Masterpiece collection. Then again, he is one of my sentimental favorites in the 'get the ones I had as a kid' department.3. I don't think I ever expected less from a Transfomer after reading all the criticism, so my expectations were low low low.
If you ho by that, why are you buying anything at all?
I really love trying out new molds, I want to experience as many as I can. So I was always gonna get tracks
Re: Kingdom Road Rage found in Target Stores (2118772)
Posted by sol magnus on October 18th, 2021 @ 12:47pm CDT
Tracks turned out to be fine (for me), but he does have 'flaws.' The Masterpiece better captures his svelte form, whereas the Kingdom version seems a bit squat. Not enough for me to dislike it, but I see it every time I handle him (or Road Rage cuz yes mine showed up in the mail on Friday).
Posted by sol magnus on October 18th, 2021 @ 12:47pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:sol magnus wrote:william-james88 wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:william-james88 wrote:Let me know though. I know what makes MP tracks bad, but what makes Kingdom tracks so bad?
Legs issues as I heard.
Still haven't transform it yet?
I have, hence my controversial statement(not that anyone loved the MP)
I love mine. Maybe not as much as others, but I still have him when I sold off the majority of my Masterpiece collection. Then again, he is one of my sentimental favorites in the 'get the ones I had as a kid' department.3. I don't think I ever expected less from a Transfomer after reading all the criticism, so my expectations were low low low.
If you ho by that, why are you buying anything at all?
I really love trying out new molds, I want to experience as many as I can. So I was always gonna get tracks
Tracks turned out to be fine (for me), but he does have 'flaws.' The Masterpiece better captures his svelte form, whereas the Kingdom version seems a bit squat. Not enough for me to dislike it, but I see it every time I handle him (or Road Rage cuz yes mine showed up in the mail on Friday).
Re: Kingdom Road Rage found in Target Stores (2118773)
Posted by Sabrblade on October 18th, 2021 @ 12:55pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on October 18th, 2021 @ 12:55pm CDT
Tracks is supposed to be a bit squat. The MP got his cartoon proportions all wrong by making him slim and lanky.sol magnus wrote:Tracks turned out to be fine (for me), but he does have 'flaws.' The Masterpiece better captures his svelte form, whereas the Kingdom version seems a bit squat. Not enough for me to dislike it, but I see it every time I handle him (or Road Rage cuz yes mine showed up in the mail on Friday).
Re: Kingdom Road Rage found in Target Stores (2118780)
Posted by william-james88 on October 18th, 2021 @ 1:22pm CDT
Another point to the Kingdom toy!
Posted by william-james88 on October 18th, 2021 @ 1:22pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Tracks is supposed to be a bit squat. The MP got his cartoon proportions all wrong by making him slim and lanky.sol magnus wrote:Tracks turned out to be fine (for me), but he does have 'flaws.' The Masterpiece better captures his svelte form, whereas the Kingdom version seems a bit squat. Not enough for me to dislike it, but I see it every time I handle him (or Road Rage cuz yes mine showed up in the mail on Friday).
Another point to the Kingdom toy!
Re: Kingdom Road Rage found in Target Stores (2118792)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on October 18th, 2021 @ 1:46pm CDT
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on October 18th, 2021 @ 1:46pm CDT
My Tracks isn't bad. The pin on one leg is right where it should be and the other leg is just barely not in far enough, not enough to make me want to fix it. Everything is fairly tight.
Road Rage on the other hand is terrible. The pins on both legs need to be pushed in but are already showing some stress marks. While Tracks transformation is a little finnicky, Road Rage is downright frustrating. I'll be trying the fix as soon as I can find another in store near me just in case.
Road Rage on the other hand is terrible. The pins on both legs need to be pushed in but are already showing some stress marks. While Tracks transformation is a little finnicky, Road Rage is downright frustrating. I'll be trying the fix as soon as I can find another in store near me just in case.
Re: Kingdom Road Rage found in Target Stores (2118803)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on October 18th, 2021 @ 2:54pm CDT
That make the Kingdom deluxe superior to the MP.
I remember my MP Roadrage. Not only her legs were annoying, but that backpack was a total scrapyard.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on October 18th, 2021 @ 2:54pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Another point to the Kingdom toy!
That make the Kingdom deluxe superior to the MP.
I remember my MP Roadrage. Not only her legs were annoying, but that backpack was a total scrapyard.
Re: Kingdom Road Rage found in Target Stores (2118804)
Posted by william-james88 on October 18th, 2021 @ 3:03pm CDT
I have some major beef with that MP. While I don't mind a backpack, the MP tried to do something where the backpack was integral to the character's build. So instead of it just being a backpack (like it is on the kingdom toy or on any other toy), that's where the robot arms were, and they connected to the body from the back with hinges on clear plastic. That would give 0 integrity to the figure and it was prone to just undo itself. It also made the figure look like it was just made of air, it made for a super weird effect.
The Kingdom one has gaps too, but at least the majority of the robot exists on the same plane/axis instead of not being clear on where his center of gravity should be.
Posted by william-james88 on October 18th, 2021 @ 3:03pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:william-james88 wrote:Another point to the Kingdom toy!
That make the Kingdom deluxe superior to the MP.
I remember my MP Roadrage. Not only her legs were annoying, but that backpack was a total scrapyard.
I have some major beef with that MP. While I don't mind a backpack, the MP tried to do something where the backpack was integral to the character's build. So instead of it just being a backpack (like it is on the kingdom toy or on any other toy), that's where the robot arms were, and they connected to the body from the back with hinges on clear plastic. That would give 0 integrity to the figure and it was prone to just undo itself. It also made the figure look like it was just made of air, it made for a super weird effect.
The Kingdom one has gaps too, but at least the majority of the robot exists on the same plane/axis instead of not being clear on where his center of gravity should be.
Re: Kingdom Road Rage found in Target Stores (2118808)
Posted by Sculyblast on October 18th, 2021 @ 4:36pm CDT
The true Masterpiece tracks does not have a backpack!
Posted by Sculyblast on October 18th, 2021 @ 4:36pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:I have some major beef with that MP. While I don't mind a backpack, the MP tried to do something where the backpack was integral to the character's build.
The true Masterpiece tracks does not have a backpack!
Re: Kingdom Road Rage found in Target Stores (2118809)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on October 18th, 2021 @ 4:41pm CDT
Only missing the wings for the flight mode.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on October 18th, 2021 @ 4:41pm CDT
Sculyblast wrote:The true Masterpiece tracks does not have a backpack!
Only missing the wings for the flight mode.
Re: Kingdom Road Rage found in Target Stores (2118811)
Posted by sol magnus on October 18th, 2021 @ 4:43pm CDT
I wouldn't call that exactly squat, but he's even squatter on the Kingdom version. Again, it certainly isn't a deal breaker.
Posted by sol magnus on October 18th, 2021 @ 4:43pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Tracks is supposed to be a bit squat. The MP got his cartoon proportions all wrong by making him slim and lanky.sol magnus wrote:Tracks turned out to be fine (for me), but he does have 'flaws.' The Masterpiece better captures his svelte form, whereas the Kingdom version seems a bit squat. Not enough for me to dislike it, but I see it every time I handle him (or Road Rage cuz yes mine showed up in the mail on Friday).
I wouldn't call that exactly squat, but he's even squatter on the Kingdom version. Again, it certainly isn't a deal breaker.
Re: Kingdom Road Rage found in Target Stores (2118814)
Posted by Overcracker on October 18th, 2021 @ 4:59pm CDT
I'm sorry, what?
I think you are misremembering the MP. Nowhere do the arms connect to the backpack, and there is no actual translucent plastic on the arm hinges at all.
The arms connect to the a plate that has the hinge and rod that holds the backpack. Also, the robot arms are on the bottom of the car.
The one that had the arms inside the backpack, was the Reveal the Shield version.
Transformers Masterpiece Tracks Gallery
Posted by Overcracker on October 18th, 2021 @ 4:59pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:william-james88 wrote:Another point to the Kingdom toy!
That make the Kingdom deluxe superior to the MP.
I remember my MP Roadrage. Not only her legs were annoying, but that backpack was a total scrapyard.
I have some major beef with that MP. While I don't mind a backpack, the MP tried to do something where the backpack was integral to the character's build. So instead of it just being a backpack (like it is on the kingdom toy or on any other toy), that's where the robot arms were, and they connected to the body from the back with hinges on clear plastic. That would give 0 integrity to the figure and it was prone to just undo itself. It also made the figure look like it was just made of air, it made for a super weird effect.
The Kingdom one has gaps too, but at least the majority of the robot exists on the same plane/axis instead of not being clear on where his center of gravity should be.
I'm sorry, what?
I think you are misremembering the MP. Nowhere do the arms connect to the backpack, and there is no actual translucent plastic on the arm hinges at all.
The arms connect to the a plate that has the hinge and rod that holds the backpack. Also, the robot arms are on the bottom of the car.
The one that had the arms inside the backpack, was the Reveal the Shield version.
Transformers Masterpiece Tracks Gallery
Re: Kingdom Road Rage found in Target Stores (2118826)
Posted by william-james88 on October 18th, 2021 @ 8:26pm CDT
Yeah thats what I was referring to, thanks for exllaining it better. Amd man, those pics give me PTSD, what a garbage connection that was.
Posted by william-james88 on October 18th, 2021 @ 8:26pm CDT
Overcracker wrote:The arms connect to the a plate that has the hinge and rod that holds the backpack.
Yeah thats what I was referring to, thanks for exllaining it better. Amd man, those pics give me PTSD, what a garbage connection that was.
Re: Kingdom Road Rage found in Target Stores (2118841)
Posted by william-james88 on October 19th, 2021 @ 8:47am CDT
Posted by william-james88 on October 19th, 2021 @ 8:47am CDT
Lol, found this short review of Tracks online:
I dunno which Tracks figure I was unhappier with: this one or the MP.
Well, I got rid of the MP.
This one? It’s a piece of crap, but it’s still better than the MP.
Re: Kingdom Road Rage found in Target Stores (2118847)
Posted by Overcracker on October 19th, 2021 @ 12:09pm CDT
But it makes even less sense. Both do a very similar thing with regards to the backpack.
The only difference is the rod on the Kingdom backpack is fixed in place and only rotates, and the MP has a hinge that lets it move up and down.
But the in the end they are pretty much the same thing.
I think this is a case of simply wanting the Kingdom version to be better than the MP with no actual basis in reality.
Posted by Overcracker on October 19th, 2021 @ 12:09pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Overcracker wrote:The arms connect to the a plate that has the hinge and rod that holds the backpack.
Yeah thats what I was referring to, thanks for exllaining it better. Amd man, those pics give me PTSD, what a garbage connection that was.
But it makes even less sense. Both do a very similar thing with regards to the backpack.
The only difference is the rod on the Kingdom backpack is fixed in place and only rotates, and the MP has a hinge that lets it move up and down.
But the in the end they are pretty much the same thing.
I think this is a case of simply wanting the Kingdom version to be better than the MP with no actual basis in reality.
Re: Kingdom Road Rage found in Target Stores (2118849)
Posted by Autobot N on October 19th, 2021 @ 12:34pm CDT
Posted by Autobot N on October 19th, 2021 @ 12:34pm CDT
What's the deal with Tracks always having bad figures
Re: Kingdom Road Rage found in Target Stores (2118850)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on October 19th, 2021 @ 12:36pm CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on October 19th, 2021 @ 12:36pm CDT
If the imperfect Generations deluxe is pretty similar to the MP and the MP is no better than the flawed deluxe, then the MP is clearly doing something wrong... Or the deluxe took its inspiration in the wrong place.
Tracks clearly have a bad... track record!
Autobot N wrote:What's the deal with Tracks always having bad figures
Tracks clearly have a bad... track record!
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