Japanese Ultimate Bumblebee to Contain Die-Cast Metal?
Friday, October 19th, 2007 1:07PM CDT
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Posted by Skowl on October 19th, 2007 @ 1:08pm CDT
Phew... busy news day...
I need some ice tea...
Posted by Dark Ops on October 19th, 2007 @ 1:11pm CDT
Am I missing something? Is there a reason for the near-mystical status of die-cast?
Posted by Sherade on October 19th, 2007 @ 1:16pm CDT
Posted by Dagon on October 19th, 2007 @ 1:20pm CDT
Posted by Flashwave on October 19th, 2007 @ 1:31pm CDT
Bleah, not sure I;m impressed with this BB though.
Posted by Alex Kingdom on October 19th, 2007 @ 1:33pm CDT
Yours AK
Posted by DevastaTTor on October 19th, 2007 @ 1:34pm CDT
Posted by mattyc1007 on October 19th, 2007 @ 1:41pm CDT
Posted by Autobot032 on October 19th, 2007 @ 1:56pm CDT
Dark Ops wrote:I'll probably draw the wrath of quite a few purists, but being born in '80, I think I have a little bit of weight when I ask: What is the big deal about die-cast? I've always preferred plastics for the lightness and ability to hold a color, as opposed to joint-tasking weight and the chipping issues. Besides, plastics seem to have really improved since the original TFs.
Am I missing something? Is there a reason for the near-mystical status of die-cast?
The reason so many purists demand Die-Cast is because it ties the new to the old in a way. It's a piece of nostalgia ("They don't make 'em like that anymore!") and it brings back memories.
That's why there's a near-mythical status for D-C.
It's understandable, but it's not my cup of tea. I look at all of my collection pieces and then hold 20th. DVD Prime in my hands and then my sight and touch senses kick in and I see the major difference, and I don't get it either. I get the emotional attachment, I get the whole "Oooh, aaah!!" thing...but logically, it makes no sense to build something partially out of D-C. It really doesn't.
It's not cost effective.
It's heavier to ship.
It's easier to chip and lose it luster, where plastic won't. (well it can, but you know what I mean)
To me, a true Masterpiece line would be made of a full plastic construction. Although, the D-C pieces on Megatron and Starscream are required for the contruction...that level of metal content, I'd be fine with.
Part of the reason I don't tinker with DVD Prime all that much is his over simplified look, his lumbering size, his metal enhanced heft. Don't get me wrong, he's an essential piece to anyone's collection, but he has his flaws and the metal is one of the biggest thorns in my side over all of it.
I compared DVD Prime (the mold) to Movie Leader Class (the mold) and you can see the differences between the two figures. LCP is lighter. LCP can have paint chipping, but nowhere near as bad as DVD. LCP has more detailing because plastic can handle it better. (Don't get me wrong, the D-C on DVD is detailed, even has battle damage marks on his legs, but D-C just can't capture all the minute details like plastic does. At least not in my experience.)
LCP is leaps and bounds better as a toy/collectible than DVD. With that said, DVD still has it's merits like all of the Masterpiece figures do.
I think if they spent less money on the metal, and more on the design (like the 6 inch Convoy (w/ trailer) super detailed figure. I can't think of the line's name...) then I'd be hard pressed to decide between a Masterpiece figure and the current movie line figures.
...but that's not what we got.
So don't feel bad, another 1980'er feels the same way you do.
Posted by Agent 007 on October 19th, 2007 @ 2:28pm CDT
Posted by Starscream on October 19th, 2007 @ 3:11pm CDT
Posted by Bumblethumper on October 19th, 2007 @ 4:04pm CDT
Die-cast would make this 10x as desirable, and that has nothing to do with nostalgia.
Posted by Zeds on October 19th, 2007 @ 4:34pm CDT
Posted by i_amtrunks on October 19th, 2007 @ 5:53pm CDT
I'm not sure it's a great idea, the worst part of the titanium line was that it was fairly obvious which parts of the toy were made from which material. Kinda detracts from the look of the figure.
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on October 19th, 2007 @ 7:00pm CDT
If he were diecast here he'd be even more expensive.
I liek Die cast because of the weight mostly.
And 20th Prime has flaws? I like the use of Diecast on him ... well, different strokes, right?
Posted by omegaprimussupermode on October 19th, 2007 @ 8:12pm CDT
Posted by dragons on October 19th, 2007 @ 8:53pm CDT
Posted by mpchi on October 19th, 2007 @ 10:35pm CDT
But while I dislike Ultimate BB, its nice to see that the Japanese version might get improved, for others that find it desirable.
Posted by Sid Burn on October 20th, 2007 @ 12:10am CDT
I wasnt going to pick up UltBB until he went on sale anyway.
Being all yellow, I hope the diecast doesnt stick out like sore thumb.
Posted by Xgamer on October 20th, 2007 @ 12:42am CDT
Sorry.... couldnt resist.
Posted by 80sgeek on October 20th, 2007 @ 3:24am CDT
Posted by 1337W422102 on October 20th, 2007 @ 1:48pm CDT
Posted by Stormrider on October 21st, 2007 @ 8:20am CDT
Posted by Down_Shift on October 21st, 2007 @ 3:28pm CDT
Posted by Down_Shift on October 21st, 2007 @ 3:30pm CDT
Xgamer wrote:This saddens me... why cant any toy store around me have women that look like that???
Sorry.... couldnt resist.
You should see them in person, photos do them no justice.