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"It's called a Geobomb."

Every red flag just went up. All of them. I'm so (not) ready!

The end is nigh, well at least they get to finish it in their terms

That panel of everyone on the bridge is something I really wanted from day one. Autobots and Decepticons on one ship as one crew. I was very bummed when not one con joined the crew since the war was technically over at the start. I was hoping that would ave happened, especially since RID had some working together

That geobomb is either going to kill every single one of them, or somehow save them. My money’s on it being another geobomb that’ll send them back to the Functionist universe or something.

anyone else intrigued by that close up of Misfire's back?

That "You're intimidating!" line got me. Personally, I've been digging the return of the old Ultra Magnus.

avarathriul wrote:anyone else intrigued by that close up of Misfire's back?

I think he's just running to the ship like the others. It's a faux panel break, not like his own panel where he's hiding something.

Counterpunch wrote:

avarathriul wrote:anyone else intrigued by that close up of Misfire's back?

I think he's just running to the ship like the others. It's a faux panel break, not like his own panel where he's hiding something.

i can dig that too

Out this week with IDW Publishing are three new issues in their Transformers comics as we rush towards the end of it all in the Summer of Transformers - continuing below with the second chapter of the final story arc for Transformers: Lost Light (Crucible), with art once more by Jack Lawrence.

Check out the preview and join the conversation in the Energon Pub discussion boards, and make sure to join us for the review discussion after the comic book is out this Wednesday!

Transformers: Lost Light #21—Cover A: Jack Lawrence
James Roberts (w) • Jack Lawrence (a & c)
Something is coming. It cannot be stalled. It cannot be avoided. It cannot be reasoned with. As the end of everything draws near, a simple instruction rings out across the universe: prepare, confront, repel.

Some people are ready for the fight of their lives. Rodimus and the increasingly shambolic crew of the Lost Light…yeah, they’re really not. Like, at all.
FC • 32 pages • $3.99

Transformers: Lost Light #21—Cover B: Geoff Senior
James Roberts (w) • Jack Lawrence (a) • Geoff Senior(c)
FC • 32 pages • $3.99

Bullet points:
Lost Light’s grand finale kicks into high gear!
Features the arrival—at long last—of the Grand Architect!
Don’t miss the B cover by beloved Transformers artist Geoff Senior!
Variant cover by Jack Lawrence!

Anyone else starting to think this "Grand architect" is really just a revived Pharma. Pharma had his head blown off and his hands remove. Although Pharma did get his hands back he could be having them replaced. And the vocal synthesizer could be explained through it needing to be retuned to match his original voice. Hope this makes some sense. Oh and Pharma was leading the worldsweeps and sparkeaters in drifts vision.

Optimus Prime13th wrote:Anyone else starting to think this "Grand architect" is really just a revived Pharma.

I dont think so. The grand architect is on a higher level than Tyrest and Pharma was below Tyrest so it would be a huge step up for him.

Stranger things have happened in this comic series so I still wouldn't be surprised if it was Pharma. Maybe he was rebuilt by someone or thing on Mederi. I know the Knight are dead in all, or supposedly but their bodies and technology should still be on the planet. Maybe they used said tech to build pharma into something else. Either that, or the Grand Architect is just a crazed Knight of Cybertron who wants to rule the universe.

Optimus Prime13th wrote:Anyone else starting to think this "Grand architect" is really just a revived Pharma. Pharma had his head blown off and his hands remove. Although Pharma did get his hands back he could be having them replaced. And the vocal synthesizer could be explained through it needing to be retuned to match his original voice. Hope this makes some sense. Oh and Pharma was leading the worldsweeps and sparkeaters in drifts vision.

Part of me thinks it is, but would the timing work out? We first saw the Grand Architect rescuing Flame and Scorponok after they fled from the DJD, which was right around the time of LSoTW. Pharma was still on Delphi at the time.

We don't know exactly how long Scorponok and Flame were floating in space before being collected, but it seems unlikely that they were stuck out there until after Pharma was pulled to Mederi (or wherever), particularly where Flywheels was rescued while the war was still going.

william-james88 wrote:

Optimus Prime13th wrote:Anyone else starting to think this "Grand architect" is really just a revived Pharma.

I dont think so. The grand architect is on a higher level than Tyrest and Pharma was below Tyrest so it would be a huge step up for him.

Well, tentacle people pulled him through the gate, so...

Maybe he saw something there and learned something that stepped him up?

Or maybe he's a puppet of that entity?

With Pharma being a doctor and the whole Mederi planet thing being Cybertopia, I think it's a decent theory.

The grand architect has been around for at least 500 years because he was hiring black smiths around the galaxy. We know Pharma is coming back in some capacity. Perhaps he takes possession of Pharmas lifeless body.

Does seem weird he hasn’t shown up yet in this story and it’s flame building a body...

I do follow the theory that it's pharma's body at least but not necessarily his spark unless it was his spark and pharma only pretended to follow him before

It’s someone from Transformers lore that’s for sure. I don’t think it’s a new creation. Being a new character this far in would seem kind of bland.

Things from fiction that I could see as the Grand Architect is maybe something like Devil Z or hell how about the Vok?! No one has touched them since 3H they were energy beings that were architects in their own way.

Counterpunch wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Optimus Prime13th wrote:Anyone else starting to think this "Grand architect" is really just a revived Pharma.

I dont think so. The grand architect is on a higher level than Tyrest and Pharma was below Tyrest so it would be a huge step up for him.

Well, tentacle people pulled him through the gate, so...

Maybe he saw something there and learned something that stepped him up?

Or maybe he's a puppet of that entity?

With Pharma being a doctor and the whole Mederi planet thing being Cybertopia, I think it's a decent theory.

I'm only like 50 pages into Eugenesis but it already has Quints ready to throw some brains into Cybertronian bodies. I'm gonna guess Pharma's body, some Quintesson leader's mind.

I’m not putting too much in the tentacles. Those tentacles were drawn the same way as the ones that were attacking Rodimus and Cyclonus in death of Optimus Prime.

ScottyP wrote:

Counterpunch wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Optimus Prime13th wrote:Anyone else starting to think this "Grand architect" is really just a revived Pharma.

I dont think so. The grand architect is on a higher level than Tyrest and Pharma was below Tyrest so it would be a huge step up for him.

Well, tentacle people pulled him through the gate, so...

Maybe he saw something there and learned something that stepped him up?

Or maybe he's a puppet of that entity?

With Pharma being a doctor and the whole Mederi planet thing being Cybertopia, I think it's a decent theory.

I'm only like 50 pages into Eugenesis but it already has Quints ready to throw some brains into Cybertronian bodies. I'm gonna guess Pharma's body, some Quintesson leader's mind.

"The Grand Architect" is a pretty Quintesson sounding name.

That being said however Simon Furman always intended the Magnificence to be a Quintesson artifact. Never made it into the stories but with the Magnificance and omega guardians returning and the Quints not being in books lately perhaps James is finally bringing back one of Furman lost ideas.

One thing that has been on my mind is the Necro world. The big theory is Cybertron was made from that mold but I think that mold was made from Cybertron. Cybertron is natural and those planets Skids saw in Remain in light were made from that mold.

I don't know, I'd feel a bit deflated if it turned out to be a quint, never been a big fan of them and I'm glad they've been no shows. This thing they are supposed to be up against though, I wonder if Roberts is going to have it be a monster straight out of lovecraft...unless he really screwed with people and had unicron eat all the cast so prime and the others had to fight their corrupted bodies in the main unicron series

ZeroWolf wrote:I don't know, I'd feel a bit deflated if it turned out to be a quint, never been a big fan of them and I'm glad they've been no shows. This thing they are supposed to be up against though, I wonder if Roberts is going to have it be a monster straight out of lovecraft...unless he really screwed with people and had unicron eat all the cast so prime and the others had to fight their corrupted bodies in the main unicron series

You just solved it. Roberts is brining back the elder gods from infestation 2!

Ya know if Shockwave hadn’t made his return in OP there’d probably be a lot of speculation on him. Especially with the line “on hand or two?”

Hah it still could be Shockwave all barber would have to do is push Shockwave into a portal/singularity again on the unicron series!

Randomhero wrote:The grand architect has been around for at least 500 years because he was hiring black smiths around the galaxy.

Au fuck, I know who it is then, it's Shockwave. Like that it ties into the Unicron story.

Does anyone here think Lost Light will still be able to be enjoyed as its own title for the next months or do we have to pick up Unicron and Optimus Prime for things to make sense going forward?

william-james88 wrote:

Randomhero wrote:The grand architect has been around for at least 500 years because he was hiring black smiths around the galaxy.

Au ****, I know who it is then, it's Shockwave. Like that it ties into the Unicron story.

Does anyone here think Lost Light will still be able to be enjoyed as its own title for the next months or do we have to pick up Unicron and Optimus Prime for things to make sense going forward?

The fact that he's been pretty busy in Op tells me I don't think it's him I'm sure Roberts is keeping his stuff seperate from the rest of Idw.

I feel like it's Quintisons involved but not necessarily the grand architect themselves.

Also I'm pretty sure it was said the Lost Light wasn't going to be involved with Unicron in any way during it's run.

Deadput wrote:Also I'm pretty sure it was said the Lost Light wasn't going to be involved with Unicron in any way during it's run.

That reading order checklist in Unicron 1 says otherwise

william-james88 wrote:

Randomhero wrote:The grand architect has been around for at least 500 years because he was hiring black smiths around the galaxy.

Au ****, I know who it is then, it's Shockwave. Like that it ties into the Unicron story.

Does anyone here think Lost Light will still be able to be enjoyed as its own title for the next months or do we have to pick up Unicron and Optimus Prime for things to make sense going forward?

This isn’t part of Unicron. This is James story he created year and years ago. Like I mentioned over the weekend John barber did an interview with Moonbase 2 and John revealed that they both were planning on ending their series coincidently at the same time. John called James and told “I think Im at good spot to conclude my run in about a year” and James said he was planning out Lost alight and figured he had a little over a year left too and would wrap up the series and take time away.

Also Shockwave wasnt running around 500 years ago. He was in deep stasis on earth under a volcano and I wouldn’t put money it’s the other Shockwave since he’s been busy staying away from cybertronian for the most part as onyx prime.

Like I said this is James story he wrote from the beginning. He admitted that while changes here and there have happened this is the conclusion he created 7 years ago and unicron was not something they were planning till last year.

william-james88 wrote:

Deadput wrote:Also I'm pretty sure it was said the Lost Light wasn't going to be involved with Unicron in any way during it's run.

That reading order checklist in Unicron 1 says otherwise

That check list is just a check list to the end of the runs and promote them going bi weekly

Randomhero wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Deadput wrote:Also I'm pretty sure it was said the Lost Light wasn't going to be involved with Unicron in any way during it's run.

That reading order checklist in Unicron 1 says otherwise

That check list is just a check list to the end of the runs and promote them going bi weekly

Ok thaks, it really confused me (as you can see)

Hmmm, with the apparent ripping of the fabric of time and space, I'm thinking somehow Autobot Megatron may show up.

Deadput wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Randomhero wrote:The grand architect has been around for at least 500 years because he was hiring black smiths around the galaxy.

Au ****, I know who it is then, it's Shockwave. Like that it ties into the Unicron story.

Does anyone here think Lost Light will still be able to be enjoyed as its own title for the next months or do we have to pick up Unicron and Optimus Prime for things to make sense going forward?

The fact that he's been pretty busy in Op tells me I don't think it's him I'm sure Roberts is keeping his stuff seperate from the rest of Idw.

I feel like it's Quintisons involved but not necessarily the grand architect themselves.

Also I'm pretty sure it was said the Lost Light wasn't going to be involved with Unicron in any way during it's run.

James has not been part of any of the interviews that are dealing with the big finale with unicron. The only thing he’s got is I think creative input. He and Scott do get thanks for creative insight in the credits.

Why couldn't it be Shockwave? Isn't LL running 3 weeks behind OP, given what happened on DoTL?

AlphaBass wrote:Why couldn't it be Shockwave? Isn't LL running 3 weeks behind OP, given what happened on DoTL?

Optimus Prime is now like a year and half after #50 of TF. Lost Light is like what? Maybe a month or two? Just shut your brain off with trying to figure out if these two comics intersect.

That’s always been a problem since day one. Rid spanned maybe three months until dark Cybertron while MTMTE had the balls to say from issue one to dark Cybertron spanned 18 months.

RID #7-23 is like 2 days. Ironhide and the dinobots leave at dawn and literally return the next night with surperion to battle the Decepticons. That series was so condensed while MTMTE would jump months between issues.

Yeah, I don't think it's Shockwave, given the two lines barely cross.

Elder Gods give me MK flashbacks. And let's not even consider Springer.

GUYS GUYS I FIGURED IT OUT: all the answers are in Heart of Darkness.

Va'al wrote:GUYS GUYS I FIGURED IT OUT: all the answers are in Heart of Darkness.

Not....sure...if....you're....serious...or....not....


Also, I've started wondering if it's Thunderwing (Thunderwing was a pretender as a toy, and we never see Thunderwing "conscious" again after he covered himself with his pretender shell in Stormbringer.)

Other, other answer is 5 time-displaced Shockwaves in a costume together cosplaying as a Quintesson!

Grindcore. He survived sideswipes beating in revelations. Him and scourge are back baby!

Ms. Trebuchette wrote:

Va'al wrote:GUYS GUYS I FIGURED IT OUT: all the answers are in Heart of Darkness.

Not....sure...if....you're....serious...or....not....


Also, I've started wondering if it's Thunderwing (Thunderwing was a pretender as a toy, and we never see Thunderwing "conscious" again after he covered himself with his pretender shell in Stormbringer.)

Other, other answer is 5 time-displaced Shockwaves in a costume together cosplaying as a Quintesson!

Given that I have read this issue last Friday, I can assure you I am totally mcgoatilly serious.

Va'al wrote:

Ms. Trebuchette wrote:

Va'al wrote:GUYS GUYS I FIGURED IT OUT: all the answers are in Heart of Darkness.

Not....sure...if....you're....serious...or....not....


Also, I've started wondering if it's Thunderwing (Thunderwing was a pretender as a toy, and we never see Thunderwing "conscious" again after he covered himself with his pretender shell in Stormbringer.)

Other, other answer is 5 time-displaced Shockwaves in a costume together cosplaying as a Quintesson!

Given that I have read this issue last Friday, I can assure you I am totally mcgoatilly serious.

Ya know, if John actually sends me that OTHER thing he once said he would send me, I'm going to spend a month trolling you and Scotty about knowing things that you don't.

Va'al wrote:Given that I have read this issue last Friday, I can assure you I am totally mcgoatilly serious.

It's obviously Thinkbox

This discussion is awesome! Lots of cool stuff here.

I'm still torn on the Grand Architect and his story, and by the looks of it from the solicitations, we won't see his true form until 25 no matter what.

I'm saying it's a Quintesson, finally making their long awaited appearance after being teased by Wheelie back oh how many years ago now, and that same art showing up in Unicron's innards?

I'm still praying it's not quints and I would like anyone with foreknowledge to come and assure me it's not. Leave me have my outer god theories! Come on randomhero you've been bang on the money other times, surely you must have a couple of good theories that don't involve the worst ideas of season 3 g1

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:This discussion is awesome! Lots of cool stuff here.

I'm still torn on the Grand Architect and his story, and by the looks of it from the solicitations, we won't see his true form until 25 no matter what.

I'm saying it's a Quintesson, finally making their long awaited appearance after being teased by Wheelie back oh how many years ago now, and that same art showing up in Unicron's innards?

They’ve shown up. Was the main villain in the flint dille trilogy.

Randomhero wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:This discussion is awesome! Lots of cool stuff here.

I'm still torn on the Grand Architect and his story, and by the looks of it from the solicitations, we won't see his true form until 25 no matter what.

I'm saying it's a Quintesson, finally making their long awaited appearance after being teased by Wheelie back oh how many years ago now, and that same art showing up in Unicron's innards?

They’ve shown up. Was the main villain in the flint dille trilogy.

Wot

He's on about the -ity series (autocracy, monstrosity...Urm, whatever the third one was called where metroplex throws down with trypticon)

ZeroWolf wrote:He's on about the -ity series (autocracy, monstrosity...Urm, whatever the third one was called where metroplex throws down with trypticon)

Now I remember. Still though, I'm on Quintesson at the moment

I also hope that Quintessons are not involved. I always found them to be lame. They were okay for the cartoon back in the day, because it was basically a 22-minute toy commercial, but the comics have more depth to them and they need more complex characters. The only way I wouldn't mind seeing them is if they were Unicron's henchmen, but that won't happen since LL is not involved in that story.