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Interview with Composer Steve Jablonsky: Transformers, Michael Bay, Music, Life

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Thursday, July 31st, 2014 4:49PM CDT

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Curious to hear more from the creative mind behind the scores of the Transformers live-action movie franchise, including Age of Extinction, Steve Jablonsky? Look no further: MStarz were able to catch up with the composer to talk about his tastes in music, his formation, his arrival on the music scene and his relationship with director Michael Bay - check out the whole piece here, and a snippet below!

You've worked with filmmaker Michael Bay and his production company, Platinum Dunes, on a number of projects. How involved is he in working with you?

He's very involved. He said to me one time that for him, the sound of his movies is 50% of what he puts out there. He considers it that important. That includes music and sound effects. He wants to hear every cue, he likes to live with it for a little while-which I get, when someone hears a piece of music for the first time and I say, do you like it or not? If I were in his position, I would go "I think I like it. I need to hear it a few more times. Can I hear it again tomorrow?"

He's very involved, not just in sound and music, but he's very involved in every aspect of his films; which I think is why his life is just so crazy because he'll come to me to hear some music and he's always racing off to go to look at the color timing of the picture or to go listen to sound effects. Whatever it is, there are a million things ... he might be more involved than people think. The music to him, he either feels it or he doesn't. He feels the music and he knows it's something working for him. That's how he judges it, and like I said, he wants to hear everything. It's good for me because he pushes me to make it right. There's so much music in these movies, I kind of get lost in these scenes, writing for days and days. He's a good judge of what works, what doesn't and what's boring. It's a good collaboration, I think, that we have at this point.

How much creative freedom do you have?

He gives me all the freedom in the world, which is great. When we started Age of Extinction, the only thing he said to me is that it was a brand new cast; let's treat this as something new. We have three movies worth of music, but let's set it aside and start working on these new ideas. That was it; I just started writing and would send him theme pieces that I was writing. I wasn't even writing to picture yet, I was just writing music inspired by some of the visuals that I had seen in his cutting room. I would just send pieces to him to see what he was responding to. He seemed to be responding to the simpler things. This little piano melody I did and things like this, which is just something I thought would be cool in the movie. It's not something he asked me to do, so he definitely does give me an open canvas to try new things that I think might work. Of course, if he doesn't like it he's gonna say so. If there's something that's not quite right, he will definitely give me general notes. "I like this, you lose me here..." We have a good shorthand now where I can just send him music and he will listen to it when he's in the music mood. He will call me up and tell me if it's good or not. He let's me do what I think is right and we take it from there.
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Re: Interview with Composer Steve Jablonsky: Transformers, Michael Bay, Music, Life (1595559)
Posted by fenrir72 on July 31st, 2014 @ 7:28pm CDT
I remember the 1st time in the first movie when the Autobots arrived on Earth in protoform mode. "Arrival" iirc.........still raises the hairs on my skin..............epic, grandiose are just how I can describe it.

S. Jablonsky I put along side J.Williams, Zimmer,Elfman and H.G. Williams. All gods of OST for epic movies.
Re: Interview with Composer Steve Jablonsky: Transformers, Michael Bay, Music, Life (1595561)
Posted by fenrir72 on July 31st, 2014 @ 7:35pm CDT
VirusCarnage wrote:I don't quite understand the appeal for CDs anymore, I find digital to be much more convenient. It seems like making a CD version of the score would just be a waste of money imo.

I've listened to the score over 20 times (not even kidding lol) and my Favourite tracks are: I'm an Autobot, Optimus is Alive, Cemetery Wind, The Creators want you back, The Legend Exists, Dinobot Charge, and Honor To The End.


On my side, I rather have physical copies of his work. Similar to having physical representation of the TF figures. Digicopies are convenient I'd grant you that but screen resolution (in let's say digi comics) depends on the hardware and nothing compares to the real thing using your eyes. Same can be said of CDs. Make back ups? Fine but nothing compares to owning the real thing.

Waste of money? You mean more money for the producers and the consumer still pays the same cost of the physical copy.
Re: Interview with Composer Steve Jablonsky: Transformers, Michael Bay, Music, Life (1596646)
Posted by VirusCarnage on August 4th, 2014 @ 11:30pm CDT
fenrir72 wrote:
VirusCarnage wrote:I don't quite understand the appeal for CDs anymore, I find digital to be much more convenient. It seems like making a CD version of the score would just be a waste of money imo.

I've listened to the score over 20 times (not even kidding lol) and my Favourite tracks are: I'm an Autobot, Optimus is Alive, Cemetery Wind, The Creators want you back, The Legend Exists, Dinobot Charge, and Honor To The End.


On my side, I rather have physical copies of his work. Similar to having physical representation of the TF figures. Digicopies are convenient I'd grant you that but screen resolution (in let's say digi comics) depends on the hardware and nothing compares to the real thing using your eyes. Same can be said of CDs. Make back ups? Fine but nothing compares to owning the real thing.

Waste of money? You mean more money for the producers and the consumer still pays the same cost of the physical copy.


I worded that waste of money comment weird what I meant to say was that Cds would cost more money to produce then a digital version of the soundtrack, and if it doesn't sell well it would be a waste of money on their side.
Re: Interview with Composer Steve Jablonsky: Transformers, Michael Bay, Music, Life (1623527)
Posted by LOST Cybertronian on November 21st, 2014 @ 12:26am CST
Age of Extinction composer Steve Jablonsky addresses the issue of why the score to Age of Extinction is no longer available on iTunes after fans brought the matter to his attention. This is what he had to say on his Facebook page. If you are looking for a CD copy of the score, Steve mentions you can still get unsigned copies at La-La Land Records and once those are gone then that is it.

Steve Jablonsky wrote:I’ve received a lot of questions on Facebook and Twitter asking why the TF4 soundtrack was removed from iTunes. Here’s the short-ish answer: The AFM (American Federation of Musicians) has rules regarding soundtrack releases and re-use fees. One option they offer is the option to produce and sell 14,999 units without any additional re-use fees. Once sales hit 15,000+ units, additional payments kick in. The number 15,000 was chosen I believe because a good selling soundtrack generally sells around 5k-10k units, so this option provides most union film productions the opportunity to release a soundtrack and sell up to 15k units without incurring any additional re-use costs.

Now because you guys are so awesome, the TF4 score hit 15,000 units really quickly. I honestly had no idea the score had been pulled down until fans started contacting me asking why the soundtrack had vanished from iTunes, only a couple months after the release of the film. I suspected the 15k limit was the reason, a little investigation proved that to be the case.

Some of you have asked another great question: why are TF1 and TF2 still available? For both of those scores, the people responsible for paying the additional re-use costs chose to go ahead and pay them. In other words they allowed sales to go beyond the 15k limit. Different people are in charge of TF3 and TF4, and they have chosen not to pay the additional costs, which is why neither TF3 or TF4 are available any longer. It’s strictly an economic decision. The additional re-use costs can and do add up to significant numbers, especially with scores like Transformers. These movies are huge with a ton of score, and I hire a lot of very talented musicians to perform, which results in even higher re-use costs if we go beyond the 15k limit.

I have had many many discussions about this topic, unfortunately it is out of my hands because I am not the one responsible for paying the re-use fees. For those interested in a physical TF4 CD I believe La La Land records has some unsigned copies left (sorry the signed ones are all gone). After these are gone, the TF4 score will no longer be available. The TF3 score is already gone. My hope is that we will figure out a way to re-release in the future, but for now this is the situation.

This topic is very close to my heart. It’s really hard to put so many months of work into a score and then hear from people all over the world that they would love to purchase your music but they cannot because it’s not available. These are good people looking to buy this music, asking me what happened where did it go, and I don’t have a good answer for them. I’m hoping with more discussion we can find better ways to address this issue. I do believe there are better ways, where everyone can benefit without fans being left out in the cold because they didn’t buy the score fast enough.

thanks

Steve
Re: Interview with Composer Steve Jablonsky: Transformers, Michael Bay, Music, Life (1623535)
Posted by noctorro on November 21st, 2014 @ 1:27am CST
Dear Primus, that's weird. I love his music and was very sad not to be able to get the Dark Of The Moon score after it hit theaters. But I got it from da netz and have the recording session cd's so that's fine now. I'll try to get the physical copy of AOE, because it's a great score as well.
Re: Interview with Composer Steve Jablonsky: Transformers, Michael Bay, Music, Life (1623550)
Posted by Fifo on November 21st, 2014 @ 3:55am CST
It's business decisions like this that just encourage illegal sharing of music.
Re: Interview with Composer Steve Jablonsky: Transformers, Michael Bay, Music, Life (1623558)
Posted by Deathsanras on November 21st, 2014 @ 4:54am CST
Fifo wrote:It's business decisions like this that just encourage illegal sharing of music.

Good idea.
Re: Interview with Composer Steve Jablonsky: Transformers, Michael Bay, Music, Life (1623570)
Posted by griftimus prime on November 21st, 2014 @ 7:05am CST
tf3 score is already gone. when was it released on cd? never as far as i know. been waiting and watching for years to get it.
Re: Interview with Composer Steve Jablonsky: Transformers, Michael Bay, Music, Life (1623581)
Posted by Skywarp64 on November 21st, 2014 @ 9:20am CST
Guess it's a good thing I got "There Is No Plan", "Battle", and "It's Our Fight" while they were still there.
Re: Interview with Composer Steve Jablonsky: Transformers, Michael Bay, Music, Life (1623586)
Posted by TulioDude on November 21st, 2014 @ 10:10am CST
Is weird to think even digital copies are unavaliable...

Well,the next business decision is:Do NOT make more business with this group.
Re: Interview with Composer Steve Jablonsky: Transformers, Michael Bay, Music, Life (1623605)
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on November 21st, 2014 @ 12:05pm CST
Man, even at a time like this, Mr. Jablonsky always sounds thoughtful and understanding. A very professional response to an unfortunate economic/monetary circumstance for the distribution of th DOTM and AOE scores.
Re: Interview with Composer Steve Jablonsky: Transformers, Michael Bay, Music, Life (1623698)
Posted by ishigoto on November 21st, 2014 @ 7:19pm CST
FEAR NOT! https://play.google.com/store/music/alb ... 3gau&hl=en The score can still be found on Google Play if you want a digital download.
Re: Interview with Composer Steve Jablonsky: Transformers, Michael Bay, Music, Life (1623735)
Posted by BumbleDouche on November 21st, 2014 @ 9:09pm CST
As much as I dislike the movie-verse, I feel for Mr Jablonsky. Is it any wonder the music industry is suffering due to illegal downloading? A ten-second search on Google provides an huge list of free (illegal) download sites. The industry is pretty much encouraging this in preference to legal purchases.
Re: Interview with Composer Steve Jablonsky: Transformers, Michael Bay, Music, Life (1623874)
Posted by whacko on November 22nd, 2014 @ 1:50pm CST
The sound track is still available on the Google Play store. I don't see any reason why it would be available on Google Play but not iTunes.
Re: Interview with Composer Steve Jablonsky: Transformers, Michael Bay, Music, Life (1624343)
Posted by Mr_Autobot411 on November 24th, 2014 @ 5:14pm CST
um just download it............

who buys music anymore ?? lololol
Re: Interview with Composer Steve Jablonsky: Transformers, Michael Bay, Music, Life (1624540)
Posted by ZeroWolf on November 25th, 2014 @ 11:52am CST
Mr_Autobot411 wrote:um just download it............

who buys music anymore ?? lololol

People who want some money to go to the guys who made it ;) especially for artists who don't have any other means to support themselves like through merchandise and concerts.
Re: Interview with Composer Steve Jablonsky: Transformers, Michael Bay, Music, Life (1624613)
Posted by Mr_Autobot411 on November 25th, 2014 @ 3:54pm CST
yea i know man, i was being more of a wise ass, im actually a musician myself.........but too be honest no one really supports local talent these days, the big guns will get more obviously but the lil guys cant make it anymore, but with youtube etc the lil guy might have a chance......but very minimal
Re: Interview with Composer Steve Jablonsky: Transformers, Michael Bay, Music, Life (1624622)
Posted by fenrir72 on November 25th, 2014 @ 4:27pm CST
MegaDump wrote:As much as I dislike the movie-verse, I feel for Mr Jablonsky. Is it any wonder the music industry is suffering due to illegal downloading? A ten-second search on Google provides an huge list of free (illegal) download sites. The industry is pretty much encouraging this in preference to legal purchases.


So you want to censor the internet then?
Re: Interview with Composer Steve Jablonsky: Transformers, Michael Bay, Music, Life (1715058)
Posted by RAR on August 1st, 2015 @ 3:46pm CDT
Has there ever been an explanation for why Age of Extinction barely has any Music in it - it goes quiet for minutes at a time - the end sequence is especially lacking Music for action scenes.

From what I've been able to find out the total amount of written music for AOE is tiny compared to any of the previous Movies.

I know some people like that audio consistency of the Movies, but it looks like Jablonsky had many of his best ideas in 2007 (by copying The Magnificent Seven score).

The Dinobots deserved their own much more distinct theme.
Bay needs to be much braver with the scores he commissions and have less of the generic music that so plagues Marvel Movies in particular but blockbusters in general these days.

I don't think Steve was given barely any time to write them either which never helps either - That used to be the reason why Videogame Music sometimes sucked more than it needed to due to a "lack of time".

I'm happy with Steve's work - just give the guy more time, let him interact with the writers and CGI artists, give him the story boards and tell him to let loose a bit.

I know he can do better than 'Bland' if allowed to, I don't think his post 2007 Transformers scores are bad all of them have some good in them - just that they are not as good as some of his Videogame scores have been I feel when taken as a whole and as contentious as it might be I also prefer the TF Prime TV shows's score too to the Movie Music when taken as a whole not that I dislike Steve's work I listened to him before he even got the Transformers Gig much as I did Michael Giacchino before he got much more well known.

I did hear something once that one reason why score's (and music in general) sometimes vanish is to do with having to pay an artist more if the music sells over a pre-set amount so the music is withdrawn to avoid higher royalties having to be paid to them.

I don't know if that is relevant though in the case of Steve.
Re: Interview with Composer Steve Jablonsky: Transformers, Michael Bay, Music, Life (1715160)
Posted by SlyTF1 on August 1st, 2015 @ 11:53pm CDT
RAR wrote:Has there ever been an explanation for why Age of Extinction barely has any Music in it - it goes quiet for minutes at a time - the end sequence is especially lacking Music for action scenes.

From what I've been able to find out the total amount of written music for AOE is tiny compared to any of the previous Movies.

I know some people like that audio consistency of the Movies, but it looks like Jablonsky had many of his best ideas in 2007 (by copying The Magnificent Seven score).

The Dinobots deserved their own much more distinct theme.
Bay needs to be much braver with the scores he commissions and have less of the generic music that so plagues Marvel Movies in particular but blockbusters in general these days.

I don't think Steve was given barely any time to write them either which never helps either - That used to be the reason why Videogame Music sometimes sucked more than it needed to due to a "lack of time".

I'm happy with Steve's work - just give the guy more time, let him interact with the writers and CGI artists, give him the story boards and tell him to let loose a bit.

I know he can do better than 'Bland' if allowed to, I don't think his post 2007 Transformers scores are bad all of them have some good in them - just that they are not as good as some of his Videogame scores have been I feel when taken as a whole and as contentious as it might be I also prefer the TF Prime TV shows's score too to the Movie Music when taken as a whole not that I dislike Steve's work I listened to him before he even got the Transformers Gig much as I did Michael Giacchino before he got much more well known.

I did hear something once that one reason why score's (and music in general) sometimes vanish is to do with having to pay an artist more if the music sells over a pre-set amount so the music is withdrawn to avoid higher royalties having to be paid to them.

I don't know if that is relevant though in the case of Steve.


When was there ever a lack of music in AOE? The only action scenes I remember with no music were the last minute of Cade and Savoy's fight, and the giant magnet scene when they got to the noodle shop. That's it.

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