In-Package Image - Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG01 Rattle (Rattrap)
Wednesday, August 6th, 2014 4:36PM CDT
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Thanks to a tip from fellow Seibertron.com user SW's SilverHammer, we have mirrored below the in-package image of LG01 Rattle (Rattrap) that the Takara Transformers account tweeted earlier today, showing off the new box for the line, which will include redecos of older figures such as Optimus Primal, and newer Generations such as Tankor, Whirl and Roadbuster (and Sky-Byte). Check it out, and compare it to the Hasbro version here!
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Re: In-Package Image - Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG01 Rattle (Rattrap) (1597125)
Posted by XDMan on August 6th, 2014 @ 5:27pm CDT
Posted by XDMan on August 6th, 2014 @ 5:27pm CDT
I would imagine Rattrap being stolen in stores. We need...A Better Mousetrap.
Re: In-Package Image - Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG01 Rattle (Rattrap) (1597126)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on August 6th, 2014 @ 5:44pm CDT
Posted by Wolfman Jake on August 6th, 2014 @ 5:44pm CDT
I'm going to jump on that Takara Jetfire for sure. Once pre-orders go up at TFSource, I'm taking the Hasbro version off my pre-order stack. The flat red paint apps look a lot better than the red chrome overload on the Hasbro version IMO.
Is Rattrap really any different from the Hasbro version?
Is Rattrap really any different from the Hasbro version?
Re: In-Package Image - Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG01 Rattle (Rattrap) (1597130)
Posted by Peridot on August 6th, 2014 @ 6:17pm CDT
I don't think Rattrap is actually going to be packaged like that. The way he's displayed in the photo wouldn't really fit on store shelves. Plus, he's not even secured in the box.
Posted by Peridot on August 6th, 2014 @ 6:17pm CDT
XDMan wrote:I would imagine Rattrap being stolen in stores. We need...A Better Mousetrap.
I don't think Rattrap is actually going to be packaged like that. The way he's displayed in the photo wouldn't really fit on store shelves. Plus, he's not even secured in the box.
Re: In-Package Image - Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG01 Rattle (Rattrap) (1597131)
Posted by Tigertrack on August 6th, 2014 @ 6:31pm CDT
I was thinking he same thing man. Box instead of card though is cool.
Posted by Tigertrack on August 6th, 2014 @ 6:31pm CDT
Metro Prime wrote:XDMan wrote:I would imagine Rattrap being stolen in stores. We need...A Better Mousetrap.
I don't think Rattrap is actually going to be packaged like that. The way he's displayed in the photo wouldn't really fit on store shelves. Plus, he's not even secured in the box.
I was thinking he same thing man. Box instead of card though is cool.
Re: In-Package Image - Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG01 Rattle (Rattrap) (1597139)
Posted by Optimizzy on August 6th, 2014 @ 6:45pm CDT
Yeah, if you hate the Earth
Serious question though: Why are Takara's packaging so wildly different than Hasbro's? Have all of the generations toys been boxed?
Posted by Optimizzy on August 6th, 2014 @ 6:45pm CDT
Tigertrack wrote: Box instead of card though is cool.
Yeah, if you hate the Earth
Serious question though: Why are Takara's packaging so wildly different than Hasbro's? Have all of the generations toys been boxed?
Re: In-Package Image - Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG01 Rattle (Rattrap) (1597141)
Posted by shajaki on August 6th, 2014 @ 7:09pm CDT
Posted by shajaki on August 6th, 2014 @ 7:09pm CDT
boxed! i love it! its like original takara beast wars were.
and just cause hes not secured in the box doesnt mean its not official. could just be a mock up.
and just cause hes not secured in the box doesnt mean its not official. could just be a mock up.
Re: In-Package Image - Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG01 Rattle (Rattrap) (1597174)
Posted by RSDADDIMUS2 on August 6th, 2014 @ 9:30pm CDT
Posted by RSDADDIMUS2 on August 6th, 2014 @ 9:30pm CDT
RatTrap and Inferno were my 2 favorites along with Megs.That's a snazzy figure. I may just want one. 
Re: In-Package Image - Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG01 Rattle (Rattrap) (1597175)
Posted by megatronus on August 6th, 2014 @ 9:30pm CDT
Posted by megatronus on August 6th, 2014 @ 9:30pm CDT
Very reminiscent of the original Beast Wars packaging! Simply a nice throwback 
Re: In-Package Image - Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG01 Rattle (Rattrap) (1597191)
Posted by LOST Cybertronian on August 6th, 2014 @ 10:11pm CDT
Posted by LOST Cybertronian on August 6th, 2014 @ 10:11pm CDT
kinda funny that when Takara puts chrome on a figure that hasbro doesn't, people are all like "OMG! OMG! OMG! OMG! it has chrome!!!!!!!!! 
Hasbro suks and Takara rulz", and then when the opposite happens people be like "eh I could do without the chrome".
Hasbro suks and Takara rulz", and then when the opposite happens people be like "eh I could do without the chrome".
Re: In-Package Image - Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG01 Rattle (Rattrap) (1597198)
Posted by megatronus on August 6th, 2014 @ 10:29pm CDT
I dunno... I think it depends on the situation.
I haven't seen many (or maybe even any) complaints about most of the AoE chromed stuff, like the Platinum Edition OP & Grimlock 2-pack, or the OP Evolution 2-pack, or the SDCC Dinobots, etc. Even the AoE Leader Prime's chrome is fairly well placed.
Jetfire's chrome isn't just an accent... it comprises a large part of the toy. Especially against a white background, it's a lot. I personally don't really mind it, but probably could have gone for more black on the weapons to break them up a bit.
Posted by megatronus on August 6th, 2014 @ 10:29pm CDT
LOST Cybertronian wrote:kinda funny that when Takara puts chrome on a figure that hasbro doesn't, people are all like "OMG! OMG! OMG! OMG! it has chrome!!!!!!!!!
I dunno... I think it depends on the situation.
I haven't seen many (or maybe even any) complaints about most of the AoE chromed stuff, like the Platinum Edition OP & Grimlock 2-pack, or the OP Evolution 2-pack, or the SDCC Dinobots, etc. Even the AoE Leader Prime's chrome is fairly well placed.
Jetfire's chrome isn't just an accent... it comprises a large part of the toy. Especially against a white background, it's a lot. I personally don't really mind it, but probably could have gone for more black on the weapons to break them up a bit.
Re: In-Package Image - Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG01 Rattle (Rattrap) (1597200)
Posted by xyl360 on August 6th, 2014 @ 10:51pm CDT
Eh, what toys are you talking about, because I don't know of any main line Takara figures to use any chrome on them other than Convoy and his variants (for the grill and bumper) since the original Henkei Henkei figures. My praise of Takara's figures has almost always been due to the use of metallic paint (BIG difference between metallic and chrome) and the sheer number of paint apps (like painting in headlights/tail lights and other details that are molded in but conspicuously unpainted in the Hasbro variants from time to time).
Regarding Jetfire, I'm with the others here. I'm going for the Takara version. I preordered it when I saw it come up on BBTS earlier today and I cancelled my preorder for the Hasbro version. Had Hasbro covered all the red bits with red chrome it may have been worth it, but mixing chrome with a different type of paint for details that are supposed to match doesn't look too good in my opinion (I wasn't a big fan of some of the Henkei Henkei figures with their one-off chrome bits either for the very same reason as it just looked out of place).
Posted by xyl360 on August 6th, 2014 @ 10:51pm CDT
LOST Cybertronian wrote:kinda funny that when Takara puts chrome on a figure that hasbro doesn't, people are all like "OMG! OMG! OMG! OMG! it has chrome!!!!!!!!!
Eh, what toys are you talking about, because I don't know of any main line Takara figures to use any chrome on them other than Convoy and his variants (for the grill and bumper) since the original Henkei Henkei figures. My praise of Takara's figures has almost always been due to the use of metallic paint (BIG difference between metallic and chrome) and the sheer number of paint apps (like painting in headlights/tail lights and other details that are molded in but conspicuously unpainted in the Hasbro variants from time to time).
Regarding Jetfire, I'm with the others here. I'm going for the Takara version. I preordered it when I saw it come up on BBTS earlier today and I cancelled my preorder for the Hasbro version. Had Hasbro covered all the red bits with red chrome it may have been worth it, but mixing chrome with a different type of paint for details that are supposed to match doesn't look too good in my opinion (I wasn't a big fan of some of the Henkei Henkei figures with their one-off chrome bits either for the very same reason as it just looked out of place).
Re: In-Package Image - Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG01 Rattle (Rattrap) (1597218)
Posted by Sabrblade on August 6th, 2014 @ 11:38pm CDT
As for the box-style packaging instead of carded packaging, in this case, it's a homage to the Japanese Beast Wars packaging from the late 90's, which also used boxes instead of cards.
Posted by Sabrblade on August 6th, 2014 @ 11:38pm CDT
This is a different line that Generations for Japan. In Japan, the Generations line has been long over. Back when it was in effect, it used a packaging style that look very similar to Hasbro's Generations packaging. But now that Generations is over in Japan, they're starting a new line for the remaining Generations toys to be sold in Japan, which will be known as the Transformers: Legends line. And with a new line comes new packaging.Optimizzy wrote:Serious question though: Why are Takara's packaging so wildly different than Hasbro's? Have all of the generations toys been boxed?
As for the box-style packaging instead of carded packaging, in this case, it's a homage to the Japanese Beast Wars packaging from the late 90's, which also used boxes instead of cards.
Re: In-Package Image - Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG01 Rattle (Rattrap) (1597310)
Posted by mooncake623 on August 7th, 2014 @ 10:30am CDT
Posted by mooncake623 on August 7th, 2014 @ 10:30am CDT
Following yesterday's announcement of Takara's Legends Jetfire & Sky-Byte we have Larger images provided to us by the Agabyss Twitter page. Looks like this confirms our guesses of Jetfire loseing all the red chrome in favor of a flat red color, and Sky-Byte having extra paint applications. We've mirrored the images below.
Re: In-Package Image - Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG01 Rattle (Rattrap) (1597314)
Posted by OptimalOptimus2 on August 7th, 2014 @ 10:37am CDT
Posted by OptimalOptimus2 on August 7th, 2014 @ 10:37am CDT
COME ON TAKARA! Repaint Sky-Byte into Cybershark! Please!!!!
Re: In-Package Image - Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG01 Rattle (Rattrap) (1597316)
Posted by megatronus on August 7th, 2014 @ 10:38am CDT
Considering that Jetfire - looks real nice with the black details on the guns.
Posted by megatronus on August 7th, 2014 @ 10:38am CDT
mooncake623 wrote:Following yesterday's announcement of Takara's Legends Jetfire & Sky-Byte we have Larger images provided to us by the Agabyss Twitter page. Looks like this confirms our guesses of Jetfire loseing all the red chrome in favor of a flat red color, and Sky-Byte having extra paint applications. We've mirrored the images below.
Considering that Jetfire - looks real nice with the black details on the guns.
Re: In-Package Image - Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG01 Rattle (Rattrap) (1597325)
Posted by shajaki on August 7th, 2014 @ 11:05am CDT
jetfires jetfires jetfires.....
honestly im getting both. because who knows which one ill like better in hand, and it wont kill me to have two
Posted by shajaki on August 7th, 2014 @ 11:05am CDT
im hoping that too. you gotta figure, if theres a chance they can repaint a toy into anything else that theyll do it. it all equals money to them.OptimalOptimus2 wrote:COME ON TAKARA! Repaint Sky-Byte into Cybershark! Please!!!!
jetfires jetfires jetfires.....
honestly im getting both. because who knows which one ill like better in hand, and it wont kill me to have two
Re: In-Package Image - Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG01 Rattle (Rattrap) (1597366)
Posted by fenrir72 on August 7th, 2014 @ 1:00pm CDT
Posted by fenrir72 on August 7th, 2014 @ 1:00pm CDT
Extra apps on the guns, red stripes on his chest and autobot sigil with white highlights. Nice!
Re: In-Package Image - Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG01 Rattle (Rattrap) (1597372)
Posted by reluctantyouth on August 7th, 2014 @ 1:56pm CDT
Posted by reluctantyouth on August 7th, 2014 @ 1:56pm CDT
Bravo Takara!!!
So interesting that Hasbro goes shiny chrome and Takara goes old school. I like this version much better and have pre-ordered 2 from TFSource.com. The figures are also listed on BBTS.com and are a dollar cheaper than TFSource. I went for the free shipping when ordering two as it was $151.90 through Source.
I figure this is a solid investment and would rather put my money into a well thought out old school homage than what Hasbro will be giving us. December cannot come soon enough for this great representation!!
Now to Amazon to cancel my Hasbro edition pre-order. Reprolabels could jazz up the Hasbro version but cannot cover up that stupid shiny chrome.
So interesting that Hasbro goes shiny chrome and Takara goes old school. I like this version much better and have pre-ordered 2 from TFSource.com. The figures are also listed on BBTS.com and are a dollar cheaper than TFSource. I went for the free shipping when ordering two as it was $151.90 through Source.
I figure this is a solid investment and would rather put my money into a well thought out old school homage than what Hasbro will be giving us. December cannot come soon enough for this great representation!!
Now to Amazon to cancel my Hasbro edition pre-order. Reprolabels could jazz up the Hasbro version but cannot cover up that stupid shiny chrome.
Re: In-Package Image - Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG01 Rattle (Rattrap) (1597446)
Posted by Rated X on August 7th, 2014 @ 4:26pm CDT
Posted by Rated X on August 7th, 2014 @ 4:26pm CDT
Looks way better than the Hasbro chrome version. But I still cant seem to pull the trigger on this mold. I hate that fake cockpit and stupid out of scale Macross jet mode. Im waiting on that Mech Form Sky Guardian.
Re: In-Package Image - Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG01 Rattle (Rattrap) (1597519)
Posted by WildclawPrime on August 7th, 2014 @ 9:40pm CDT
Posted by WildclawPrime on August 7th, 2014 @ 9:40pm CDT
Still some great upcoming figures for this year. Why is it that Takara has the better paint schemes then the Hasbro releases? Maybe of course it's because either Hasbro is lazy at times, or they just have some bizarre choices. Still, the US versions of Jetfire and Sky-Byte look decent With a few exceptions, I'm really liking the Generations line this year.
Re: In-Package Image - Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG01 Rattle (Rattrap) (1597539)
Posted by megatronus on August 7th, 2014 @ 10:19pm CDT
Sometimes they do, sometimes they don't. It really depends on the particular line & figure.
Posted by megatronus on August 7th, 2014 @ 10:19pm CDT
WildclawPrime wrote:Why is it that Takara has the better paint schemes then the Hasbro releases?
Sometimes they do, sometimes they don't. It really depends on the particular line & figure.
Re: In-Package Image - Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG01 Rattle (Rattrap) (1597596)
Posted by fenrir72 on August 8th, 2014 @ 4:45am CDT
Posted by fenrir72 on August 8th, 2014 @ 4:45am CDT
Re: In-Package Image - Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG01 Rattle (Rattrap) (1597650)
Posted by Sabrblade on August 8th, 2014 @ 9:38am CDT
http://www.seibertron.com/energonpub/takara-tomy-transformers-legends-thread-t101179s125.php#p1597310
Posted by Sabrblade on August 8th, 2014 @ 9:38am CDT
fenrir72 wrote:From amiami
http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail ... agecnt%3D1
Looks like no chrome this time.
http://www.seibertron.com/energonpub/takara-tomy-transformers-legends-thread-t101179s125.php#p1597310
Re: In-Package Image - Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG01 Rattle (Rattrap) (1597748)
Posted by Cyberpath on August 8th, 2014 @ 1:22pm CDT
Posted by Cyberpath on August 8th, 2014 @ 1:22pm CDT
Why is the Takara version much more expansive than Hasbro's?
I actually prefer the Hasbro version this time, it's slightly more cartoon-accurate.
I actually prefer the Hasbro version this time, it's slightly more cartoon-accurate.
Re: In-Package Image - Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG01 Rattle (Rattrap) (1597754)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on August 8th, 2014 @ 1:42pm CDT
It's basic economics really. It's actually on par with current Japanese prices for Leader Class, and in fact between US and EU prices (EU being 70 Euros)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on August 8th, 2014 @ 1:42pm CDT
Cyberpath wrote:Why is the Takara version much more expansive than Hasbro's?
I actually prefer the Hasbro version this time, it's slightly more cartoon-accurate.
It's basic economics really. It's actually on par with current Japanese prices for Leader Class, and in fact between US and EU prices (EU being 70 Euros)
Re: In-Package Image - Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG01 Rattle (Rattrap) (1597827)
Posted by fenrir72 on August 8th, 2014 @ 6:31pm CDT
The thread you are linking IS NOT from Amiami. So was THAT a means to correct something that does not need to be corrected? 
For THOSE too busy to actually read the link
Cost: Y 7560 @ 30% off so it costs Y 5280 but ALL SOLD OUT.
So, do I get a "No" Prize?
Btw here's another link, this time at Hobbysearch:LG07 coming late December 2014
http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/list/1059/0/1
Cost: Y 7000 but HS is charging Y 5950.........not yet SOLD OUT.
Posted by fenrir72 on August 8th, 2014 @ 6:31pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:fenrir72 wrote:From amiami
http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail ... agecnt%3D1
Looks like no chrome this time.
http://www.seibertron.com/energonpub/takara-tomy-transformers-legends-thread-t101179s125.php#p1597310
The thread you are linking IS NOT from Amiami. So was THAT a means to correct something that does not need to be corrected? For THOSE too busy to actually read the link
Cost: Y 7560 @ 30% off so it costs Y 5280 but ALL SOLD OUT.
So, do I get a "No" Prize?
Btw here's another link, this time at Hobbysearch:LG07 coming late December 2014
http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/list/1059/0/1
Cost: Y 7000 but HS is charging Y 5950.........not yet SOLD OUT.
Re: In-Package Image - Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG01 Rattle (Rattrap) (1597828)
Posted by fenrir72 on August 8th, 2014 @ 6:46pm CDT
If the stock pics are accurate and not open to further changes it looks like it will follow the exact color apps found in the box art.
See the stripes patterns on both chest panels (R and L)? The apps on his front shins. His sigils now have white borders and the armor have the black paint apps. And it looks like no chrome.
Being Japan bound, maybe this changes are Tomy's justification of a "slightly" higher SRP. He also might have a different colored plastic like the Japanese Drift had a different white from the Hasbro. I said "might" though.........
Posted by fenrir72 on August 8th, 2014 @ 6:46pm CDT
Cyberpath wrote:Why is the Takara version much more expansive than Hasbro's?
I actually prefer the Hasbro version this time, it's slightly more cartoon-accurate.
If the stock pics are accurate and not open to further changes it looks like it will follow the exact color apps found in the box art.
See the stripes patterns on both chest panels (R and L)? The apps on his front shins. His sigils now have white borders and the armor have the black paint apps. And it looks like no chrome.
Being Japan bound, maybe this changes are Tomy's justification of a "slightly" higher SRP. He also might have a different colored plastic like the Japanese Drift had a different white from the Hasbro. I said "might" though.........
Re: In-Package Image - Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG01 Rattle (Rattrap) (1597831)
Posted by megatronus on August 8th, 2014 @ 6:52pm CDT
A pearly white would make Takara Jetfire 100% worth the asking price, IMHO.
Posted by megatronus on August 8th, 2014 @ 6:52pm CDT
fenrir72 wrote:Cyberpath wrote:Why is the Takara version much more expansive than Hasbro's?
I actually prefer the Hasbro version this time, it's slightly more cartoon-accurate.
If the stock pics are accurate and not open to further changes it looks like it will follow the exact color apps found in the box art.
See the stripes patterns on both chest panels (R and L)? The apps on his front shins. His sigils now have white borders and the armor have the black paint apps. And it looks like no chrome.
Being Japan bound, maybe this changes are Tomy's justification of a "slightly" higher SRP. He also might have a different colored plastic like the Japanese Drift had a different white from the Hasbro. I said "might" though.........
A pearly white would make Takara Jetfire 100% worth the asking price, IMHO.
Re: In-Package Image - Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG01 Rattle (Rattrap) (1597846)
Posted by xyl360 on August 8th, 2014 @ 8:50pm CDT
I don't know what shade it will be, but I'd bet that the Takara version will use at least slightly different color plastics. They almost always do, sometimes subtly different and other times dramatically so, but it's almost always at least somewhat different.
Posted by xyl360 on August 8th, 2014 @ 8:50pm CDT
megatronus wrote:fenrir72 wrote:Cyberpath wrote:Why is the Takara version much more expansive than Hasbro's?
I actually prefer the Hasbro version this time, it's slightly more cartoon-accurate.
If the stock pics are accurate and not open to further changes it looks like it will follow the exact color apps found in the box art.
See the stripes patterns on both chest panels (R and L)? The apps on his front shins. His sigils now have white borders and the armor have the black paint apps. And it looks like no chrome.
Being Japan bound, maybe this changes are Tomy's justification of a "slightly" higher SRP. He also might have a different colored plastic like the Japanese Drift had a different white from the Hasbro. I said "might" though.........
A pearly white would make Takara Jetfire 100% worth the asking price, IMHO.
I don't know what shade it will be, but I'd bet that the Takara version will use at least slightly different color plastics. They almost always do, sometimes subtly different and other times dramatically so, but it's almost always at least somewhat different.
Re: In-Package Image - Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG01 Rattle (Rattrap) (1597892)
Posted by fenrir72 on August 9th, 2014 @ 2:02am CDT
Posted by fenrir72 on August 9th, 2014 @ 2:02am CDT
Tomy or specifically anything for the Japanese market has an extra bling, though in this case.......no bling?? hehehehe
Re: In-Package Image - Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG01 Rattle (Rattrap) (1597949)
Posted by Sabrblade on August 9th, 2014 @ 9:34am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on August 9th, 2014 @ 9:34am CDT
Their Gelshark is shinier than Sky-Byte, and their Jetfire has more paint apps than Hasbro's. So, for Jetfire, it's just a non-shiny bling.fenrir72 wrote:Tomy or specifically anything for the Japanese market has an extra bling, though in this case.......no bling?? hehehehe
Re: In-Package Image - Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG01 Rattle (Rattrap) (1597972)
Posted by fenrir72 on August 9th, 2014 @ 10:53am CDT
Posted by fenrir72 on August 9th, 2014 @ 10:53am CDT
Bling=chrome. So based on the pic......no chrome/bling.
Re: In-Package Image - Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG01 Rattle (Rattrap) (1599327)
Posted by william-james88 on August 14th, 2014 @ 2:52pm CDT
I am puzzled as to how each of these Legends toys look to be the same size. Leo Prime and Optimus Primal use the same original molds and original ultra sizes right? So then which mold is that classic optimus from? It looks like the Deluxe Classics Prime but he was much smaller. And the movie optimus looks like the one step optimus but once again that size make me scratch my head as to what toy this is and if it was actually ever released before. Can anyone help?
Posted by william-james88 on August 14th, 2014 @ 2:52pm CDT
Va'al wrote:
I am puzzled as to how each of these Legends toys look to be the same size. Leo Prime and Optimus Primal use the same original molds and original ultra sizes right? So then which mold is that classic optimus from? It looks like the Deluxe Classics Prime but he was much smaller. And the movie optimus looks like the one step optimus but once again that size make me scratch my head as to what toy this is and if it was actually ever released before. Can anyone help?
Re: In-Package Image - Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG01 Rattle (Rattrap) (1599329)
Posted by Mindmaster on August 14th, 2014 @ 2:57pm CDT
Generation One Optimus Prime, Optimus Primal, and Lio Convoy are from the Robotmasters line over in Japan back in 2004-ish, and were all scaled to one another. They're roughly Deluxe-sized. The Optimus Primal and Lio Convoy you see in those images are NOT the Ultra-ish figures originally featured in their respective lines, but scaled down versions.
Posted by Mindmaster on August 14th, 2014 @ 2:57pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:I am puzzled as to how each of these Legends toys look to be the same size. Leo Prime and Optimus Primal use the same original molds and original ultra sizes right? So then which mold is that classic optimus from? It looks like the Deluxe Classics Prime but he was much smaller. And the movie optimus looks like the one step optimus but once again that size make me scratch my head as to what toy this is and if it was actually ever released before. Can anyone help?
Generation One Optimus Prime, Optimus Primal, and Lio Convoy are from the Robotmasters line over in Japan back in 2004-ish, and were all scaled to one another. They're roughly Deluxe-sized. The Optimus Primal and Lio Convoy you see in those images are NOT the Ultra-ish figures originally featured in their respective lines, but scaled down versions.
Re: In-Package Image - Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG01 Rattle (Rattrap) (1599330)
Posted by william-james88 on August 14th, 2014 @ 3:01pm CDT
Thanks! So is this the same toy as the one from this piece of news:
http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/japanese-transformers-40/takara-tomy-announces-transformers-legends-new-line-celebrating-30-years-of-transformers-180247/
Because if the Primal is deluxe sized, he should be the same size as the rattrap
Posted by william-james88 on August 14th, 2014 @ 3:01pm CDT
Mindmaster wrote:
Generation One Optimus Prime, Optimus Primal, and Lio Convoy are from the Robotmasters line over in Japan back in 2004-ish, and were all scaled to one another. They're roughly Deluxe-sized. The Optimus Primal and Lio Convoy you see in those images are NOT the Ultra-ish figures originally featured in their respective lines, but scaled down versions.
Thanks! So is this the same toy as the one from this piece of news:
http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/japanese-transformers-40/takara-tomy-announces-transformers-legends-new-line-celebrating-30-years-of-transformers-180247/
Because if the Primal is deluxe sized, he should be the same size as the rattrap
Re: In-Package Image - Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG01 Rattle (Rattrap) (1599341)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on August 14th, 2014 @ 3:42pm CDT
No, that's the original BW Optimus Primal figure (well, the 10th anniversary retool). The main difference is in the hands.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on August 14th, 2014 @ 3:42pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Mindmaster wrote:
Generation One Optimus Prime, Optimus Primal, and Lio Convoy are from the Robotmasters line over in Japan back in 2004-ish, and were all scaled to one another. They're roughly Deluxe-sized. The Optimus Primal and Lio Convoy you see in those images are NOT the Ultra-ish figures originally featured in their respective lines, but scaled down versions.
Thanks! So is this the same toy as the one from this piece of news:
http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/japanese-transformers-40/takara-tomy-announces-transformers-legends-new-line-celebrating-30-years-of-transformers-180247/
Because if the Primal is deluxe sized, he should be the same size as the rattrap
No, that's the original BW Optimus Primal figure (well, the 10th anniversary retool). The main difference is in the hands.
Re: In-Package Image - Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG01 Rattle (Rattrap) (1599404)
Posted by william-james88 on August 14th, 2014 @ 6:31pm CDT
So takara is releasing 2 different scaled Optimus Primals in their Legends line then?
Posted by william-james88 on August 14th, 2014 @ 6:31pm CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:william-james88 wrote:Mindmaster wrote:
Generation One Optimus Prime, Optimus Primal, and Lio Convoy are from the Robotmasters line over in Japan back in 2004-ish, and were all scaled to one another. They're roughly Deluxe-sized. The Optimus Primal and Lio Convoy you see in those images are NOT the Ultra-ish figures originally featured in their respective lines, but scaled down versions.
Thanks! So is this the same toy as the one from this piece of news:
http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/japanese-transformers-40/takara-tomy-announces-transformers-legends-new-line-celebrating-30-years-of-transformers-180247/
Because if the Primal is deluxe sized, he should be the same size as the rattrap
No, that's the original BW Optimus Primal figure (well, the 10th anniversary retool). The main difference is in the hands.
So takara is releasing 2 different scaled Optimus Primals in their Legends line then?
Re: In-Package Image - Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG01 Rattle (Rattrap) (1599405)
Posted by Sabrblade on August 14th, 2014 @ 6:33pm CDT
After all, it's "Legend Commander Collection" rather than "LegendS Commander Collection".
Posted by Sabrblade on August 14th, 2014 @ 6:33pm CDT
Do we even know for sure that the Legend Commander Collection is even part of the Legends toyline?william-james88 wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:william-james88 wrote:Mindmaster wrote:
Generation One Optimus Prime, Optimus Primal, and Lio Convoy are from the Robotmasters line over in Japan back in 2004-ish, and were all scaled to one another. They're roughly Deluxe-sized. The Optimus Primal and Lio Convoy you see in those images are NOT the Ultra-ish figures originally featured in their respective lines, but scaled down versions.
Thanks! So is this the same toy as the one from this piece of news:
http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/japanese-transformers-40/takara-tomy-announces-transformers-legends-new-line-celebrating-30-years-of-transformers-180247/
Because if the Primal is deluxe sized, he should be the same size as the rattrap
No, that's the original BW Optimus Primal figure (well, the 10th anniversary retool). The main difference is in the hands.
So takara is releasing 2 different scaled Optimus Primals in their Legends line then?
After all, it's "Legend Commander Collection" rather than "LegendS Commander Collection".
Re: In-Package Image - Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG01 Rattle (Rattrap) (1599408)
Posted by william-james88 on August 14th, 2014 @ 6:37pm CDT
Silly me, I thought there was some coherence to the similar names
Posted by william-james88 on August 14th, 2014 @ 6:37pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Do we even know for sure that the Legend Commander Collection is even part of the Legends toyline?
After all, it's "Legend Commander Collection" rather than "LegendS Commander Collection".
Silly me, I thought there was some coherence to the similar names
Re: In-Package Image - Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG01 Rattle (Rattrap) (1599411)
Posted by Sabrblade on August 14th, 2014 @ 6:42pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on August 14th, 2014 @ 6:42pm CDT
Not to mention that the LCC toys were all TF Expo exclusives.william-james88 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Do we even know for sure that the Legend Commander Collection is even part of the Legends toyline?
After all, it's "Legend Commander Collection" rather than "LegendS Commander Collection".
Silly me, I thought there was some coherence to the similar names
Re: In-Package Image - Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG01 Rattle (Rattrap) (1599427)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on August 14th, 2014 @ 7:43pm CDT
Posted by Wolfman Jake on August 14th, 2014 @ 7:43pm CDT
I'm debating what will be the least "problematic" Optimus Primal to go in my Classics Beast Wars collection. The upcoming reissue of the original Ultra figure, which is bigger than voyager Rhinox, or this reissue of the Robotmasters figure, which is quite a bit smaller than Voyager Rhinox. I'm leaning towards a large figure, which would at least scale Primal properly with Cheetor, but then he'd be too big for Dinobot. Ugh...such a headache.
Re: In-Package Image - Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG01 Rattle (Rattrap) (1599429)
Posted by Sabrblade on August 14th, 2014 @ 7:56pm CDT
Though, I also use the original Rattrap mold since the Generations mold, while nice, is too big for even Rhinox and Dinobot, only scaling well with the original BW Ultra Optimus Primal mold.
Posted by Sabrblade on August 14th, 2014 @ 7:56pm CDT
I just use my Telemocha Series figure (which uses the RobotMasters mold) and have Cheetor (who is also the Telemocha Series figure, using the original BW mold, since the Universe Cheetor mold is garbage) in an action pose with his legs bent to make him squat shorter than Primal.Wolfman Jake wrote:I'm debating what will be the least "problematic" Optimus Primal to go in my Classics Beast Wars collection. The upcoming reissue of the original Ultra figure, which is bigger than voyager Rhinox, or this reissue of the Robotmasters figure, which is quite a bit smaller than Voyager Rhinox. I'm leaning towards a large figure, which would at least scale Primal properly with Cheetor, but then he'd be too big for Dinobot. Ugh...such a headache.
Though, I also use the original Rattrap mold since the Generations mold, while nice, is too big for even Rhinox and Dinobot, only scaling well with the original BW Ultra Optimus Primal mold.
Re: In-Package Image - Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG01 Rattle (Rattrap) (1599460)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on August 14th, 2014 @ 9:15pm CDT
Posted by Wolfman Jake on August 14th, 2014 @ 9:15pm CDT
Scale is simply a nightmare for Beast Wars figures. 
Re: In-Package Image - Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG01 Rattle (Rattrap) (1599466)
Posted by Sabrblade on August 14th, 2014 @ 9:51pm CDT
Though, my Rattrap is the more show-accurate Japanese one with the copper head and hands.
Posted by Sabrblade on August 14th, 2014 @ 9:51pm CDT
This looks enough enough to me:Wolfman Jake wrote:Scale is simply a nightmare for Beast Wars figures.
Though, my Rattrap is the more show-accurate Japanese one with the copper head and hands.
Re: In-Package Image - Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG01 Rattle (Rattrap) (1599474)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on August 14th, 2014 @ 10:43pm CDT
Posted by Wolfman Jake on August 14th, 2014 @ 10:43pm CDT
Not bad, but I don't want to have to use the original BW toys to fill in my gaps. I'm building a "Classics" collection of Beast Wars figures. I think a nice voyager scale Optimus Primal would fix it all for me. Yeah, Generations Rattrap would still be too big, but he'd still at least be the smallest member of the group. Unfortunately, I don't think a new Optimus Primal is coming any time soon. Takara is reissuing the original ultra class figure (yet again) and Hasbro is switching gears to the "Combiner Wars" next year.
Re: In-Package Image - Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG01 Rattle (Rattrap) (1599475)
Posted by Sabrblade on August 14th, 2014 @ 10:51pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on August 14th, 2014 @ 10:51pm CDT
That's what the Ultra mold is, though. A Classics version would be like this:Wolfman Jake wrote:Not bad, but I don't want to have to use the original BW toys to fill in my gaps.
Re: In-Package Image - Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG01 Rattle (Rattrap) (1599687)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on August 15th, 2014 @ 6:23pm CDT
Yeah, I know the Ultra toy coming up from Takara is technically the original toy from Beast Wars, but it's been retooled and redecoed compared to the original release. That gives it a pass in my mind. I do have that deluxe Optimus Primal from the Beast Wars Anniversary line as well. He's the "Classics" primal on my shelf right now, and he's frankly not too bad in bot mode. Gorilla mode is a different matter, but I just kind of pretend he's transmetal. The biggest let down is the size. I wish some of that surf board mass could have gone into the figure itself instead.
Posted by Wolfman Jake on August 15th, 2014 @ 6:23pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:That's what the Ultra mold is, though. A Classics version would be like this:Wolfman Jake wrote:Not bad, but I don't want to have to use the original BW toys to fill in my gaps.
Yeah, I know the Ultra toy coming up from Takara is technically the original toy from Beast Wars, but it's been retooled and redecoed compared to the original release. That gives it a pass in my mind. I do have that deluxe Optimus Primal from the Beast Wars Anniversary line as well. He's the "Classics" primal on my shelf right now, and he's frankly not too bad in bot mode. Gorilla mode is a different matter, but I just kind of pretend he's transmetal. The biggest let down is the size. I wish some of that surf board mass could have gone into the figure itself instead.
Re: In-Package Image - Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG01 Rattle (Rattrap) (1599716)
Posted by Sabrblade on August 15th, 2014 @ 10:52pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on August 15th, 2014 @ 10:52pm CDT
But that tooling isn't new. It was already given that tooling back in 2007 for the Takara's Beast Wars Reborn release (which was released later that year for Hasbro's BW 10th Anniversary line).Wolfman Jake wrote:Yeah, I know the Ultra toy coming up from Takara is technically the original toy from Beast Wars, but it's been retooled and redecoed compared to the original release. That gives it a pass in my mind.
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Posted by shajaki on August 15th, 2014 @ 11:06pm CDT
and i was going to say, as far as scale goes i thought beast wars was one of the best. only real issues lie with the original (season 1) toys. which as you can see, have since been rectified.
Posted by shajaki on August 15th, 2014 @ 11:06pm CDT
off topic: hey sarblade... doncha think telemocha cheetor is incredibly underated? ive always been a fan of the mold, but i was blown away with how nice the paint apps were.Sabrblade wrote:This looks enough enough to me:Wolfman Jake wrote:Scale is simply a nightmare for Beast Wars figures.
Though, my Rattrap is the more show-accurate Japanese one with the copper head and hands.
and i was going to say, as far as scale goes i thought beast wars was one of the best. only real issues lie with the original (season 1) toys. which as you can see, have since been rectified.
