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Initial In-Hand Images of Transformers Power of the Primes Grimlock, Slash & Volcanicus

Transformers News: Initial In-Hand Images of Transformers Power of the Primes Grimlock, Slash & Volcanicus

Wednesday, November 15th, 2017 8:58PM CST

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Thanks to Taiwan-based YouTube reviewer Kevin Liu, who took time to upload some more video reviews (in Chinese) for Transformers Power of the Primes deluxe class Dinobots Slug and Swoop, we also have some sneaky previews at a number of things.

First of all, shown off for comparison is wave-mate but Voyager cousin Dinobot leader Grimlock, in his new guise as combiner torso too, along with robot and space Tyrannosaurus Rex (debatable). While there is no actual review of the figure yet, we do get to look at the toy in both its modes in the two clips available from Kevin - which also means we get an initial look at combined form Volcanicus! But that's not all: the final part, also in the two reviews, is an in-package shot of Legend class Slash, the new female Dinobot member. Take a look at the screenshots provided below, and keep your optics tuned for reviews of both Voyager and Legend dinos sure to be appearing soon.

Transformers News: Initial In-Hand Images of Transformers Power of the Primes Grimlock, Slash & Volcanicus

Transformers News: Initial In-Hand Images of Transformers Power of the Primes Grimlock, Slash & Volcanicus

Transformers News: Initial In-Hand Images of Transformers Power of the Primes Grimlock, Slash & Volcanicus

Transformers News: Initial In-Hand Images of Transformers Power of the Primes Grimlock, Slash & Volcanicus

Transformers News: Initial In-Hand Images of Transformers Power of the Primes Grimlock, Slash & Volcanicus

Transformers News: Initial In-Hand Images of Transformers Power of the Primes Grimlock, Slash & Volcanicus

Transformers News: Initial In-Hand Images of Transformers Power of the Primes Grimlock, Slash & Volcanicus

Transformers News: Initial In-Hand Images of Transformers Power of the Primes Grimlock, Slash & Volcanicus

Transformers News: Initial In-Hand Images of Transformers Power of the Primes Grimlock, Slash & Volcanicus

Transformers News: Initial In-Hand Images of Transformers Power of the Primes Grimlock, Slash & Volcanicus

Transformers News: Initial In-Hand Images of Transformers Power of the Primes Grimlock, Slash & Volcanicus

Transformers News: Initial In-Hand Images of Transformers Power of the Primes Grimlock, Slash & Volcanicus

Transformers News: Initial In-Hand Images of Transformers Power of the Primes Grimlock, Slash & Volcanicus



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Re: Initial In-Hand Images of Transformers Power of the Primes Grimlock, Slash & Volcanicus (1921884)
Posted by Nightbeat339 on November 15th, 2017 @ 9:19pm CST
I've loved TR, but to me PotP seems like a step down. Grimlock looks awful in Dino mode! The other two dinobots look decent, but I really wish they had some chrome on them.
Re: Initial In-Hand Images of Transformers Power of the Primes Grimlock, Slash & Volcanicus (1921889)
Posted by Seibertron on November 15th, 2017 @ 10:17pm CST
The "brand wide" gimmick seems to really be hurting the Power of the Primes figures. All of the deluxes look off so far.

Jazz looks OK in robot mode, but alt mode looks very weird for Jazz. His mouth isn't really molded either which just looks weird up close. If his head looked like the artwork on the box, I'd be very happy.

Swoop's wings bug me a lot in robot mode mode for some reason. I like the idea of the "gold" paint on the inside of the translucent plastic, but the color that was used looks blah and doesn't look very gold to me. Would chrome paint have been a possibility? As is the case with all of the deluxe Dinobots, his body isn't wide enough or something, which I've also complained about with some of the Aerialbots and Vortex (off the top of my head).

Slug looks fairly good in robot mode, though not as bulky as I would have preferred. His triceratops mode's fringe has a weird slant or looks off.

Dreadwind and Blackwing both suffer from the too-thin or not-wide-enough bodies of the aforementioned Combiner Wars figures. I would have really liked to have seen them as Voyagers.

I was hoping that once I had them in hand, I'd feel differently, but I don't. I've wanted a really nice set of modern day Dinobots for so long that this set is just a disappointment, with Grimlock being the biggest deal breaker of the five of them. He has so many things wrong with the way he looks and the lack of his sword and gun is just a real bummer. I'm not keen on any of the other upcoming Deluxes or Voyagers either.

Rodimus Prime looks like he could be a fun toy, but it also has some issues (most notably Hot Rod's legs for shoulders just can't be unseen. Optimus is close but his colors are way off ... but the issue with the truck's cab being a jumbled mess leaves me feeling disappointed.

The Deluxes and Voyagers, with the exception of the Abominus figures (who really need Hun-Gurrr's gun for Abominus) suffer from being Combiners. While I'm not a big fan of characters who weren't combiners in G1 becoming Combiners now, what irks me more is that many of these toys suffer because they're trying to do too much because they're Combiners. I just want cool toys. Titans Return was really cool for the most part, but some of those figures suffered as well because of the "brand wide" gimmick such as Galvatron (who had a terrible head) and Soundwave (whose head looks goofy). I get the "brand wide" gimmick from a marketing and sales perspective, but as a fan I don't care for it when I see figures suffer because of it.

Just to clarify, there were a lot of great exceptions with brand-wide gimmicks as well. Perceptor, Windblade, Octane, Twin Twist and Topspin all come to mind as fantastic figures that looked great in both modes and added the "Headmaster" gimmick to characters that shouldn't have that feature. Those figures looked so good that I didn't mind them also being a Headmaster.

Just wanted to vent a little after seeing more disappointing pics of Grimlock and after feeling disappointed by the wave 1 deluxes after getting them in hand today. Normally I'm all cheerleader-like doing the "rah rah rah" bit for anything and everything Transformers yet I can't get over this "disappointed" feeling about the entirety of what has been revealed for Power of the Primes so far.
Re: Initial In-Hand Images of Transformers Power of the Primes Grimlock, Slash & Volcanicus (1921890)
Posted by william-james88 on November 15th, 2017 @ 10:20pm CST
Hellscream9999 wrote:
william-james88 wrote:while I cant speak for the hot rods, what cobotron is seeing is definitely the revision wave. I will make a news post about it since I see a lot of confusion. Its actually new (not that anyone wanted it)
https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... ion/39261/

Aww man, I'd kill for that wave to freshen things up near me, no, I put some stock out a month ago and it was the legit wave 1('17) figures: hotrod, doublecross, triggerhappy and breakaway. I was so pissed since we had just finished moving that wave from our store which had been there since December of last year :BOOM:

Maybe it wasnt. How many hot rods were in the case, 2 or 3? Because there is a revision set that looks the same as wave 3 but changes the amount of characters in it so that there is no short packed figure.

So maybe yes, you do have a revision wave in stock.

https://www.entertainmentearth.com/prod ... =HSB7762C1
Re: Initial In-Hand Images of Transformers Power of the Primes Grimlock, Slash & Volcanicus (1921895)
Posted by Bronzewolf on November 15th, 2017 @ 11:03pm CST
So my local Target didn't have any Power of the Primes toys. What did you lucky folks do to get them to find them? Just give them the UPC? Describe them? Ask if they got any case shipments in? I MUST KNOW YOUR SECRETS.
Re: Initial In-Hand Images of Transformers Power of the Primes Grimlock, Slash & Volcanicus (1921896)
Posted by bodrock on November 15th, 2017 @ 11:21pm CST
Rysquad wrote:San Diego folks -

Looks like Target in Santee put a case in it's system. I checked the Target DCPI number for PotP Deluxe (087-06-5863) on Brickseek this morning and saw that they had them in stock. Of course, they weren't out on the floor but politely asked if they could check the back, which showed 6 figures. The Target Team Member brought out an opened case - looked like someone asked before I did. Picked up Dreadwind but left Swoop (2), Slag (2) and Jazz (1) in the box.


It's all thanks to Rysquad, Bronzewolf! :)

I followed his steps -- like I mentioned earlier, you may want to call ahead to confirm, as Target will most likely not have them on the floor, thanks to TR & TLK.

I hear ya on the Dinobots, Seibertron! Grimmy is not doing it for me either, and I'm not honestly planning on picking them all up -- except for Slash. MOAR FEMME BOTS, plz.

Same thing with Jazz -- his G1 incarnation remains my fave.

I'll most likely buy all the Pretender/PMs, though. And Rodimus Unicronus. :SG-BOTS:
Re: Initial In-Hand Images of Transformers Power of the Primes Grimlock, Slash & Volcanicus (1921899)
Posted by Ultra Markus on November 15th, 2017 @ 11:49pm CST
despite some of the figures shortcomings im just glad we get all the dinobots as they should be and they are pretty damn close to the originals and giving the fact that they also combine should be a dream come true i think most everyone who liked the original dinobots wish they combined and now we have that
sure this new combiner may not look as we hoped but it will do, its close enough :D
Re: Initial In-Hand Images of Transformers Power of the Primes Grimlock, Slash & Volcanicus (1921903)
Posted by Bounti76 on November 16th, 2017 @ 1:08am CST
bodrock wrote:
Rysquad wrote:San Diego folks -

Looks like Target in Santee put a case in it's system. I checked the Target DCPI number for PotP Deluxe (087-06-5863) on Brickseek this morning and saw that they had them in stock. Of course, they weren't out on the floor but politely asked if they could check the back, which showed 6 figures. The Target Team Member brought out an opened case - looked like someone asked before I did. Picked up Dreadwind but left Swoop (2), Slag (2) and Jazz (1) in the box.


It's all thanks to Rysquad, Bronzewolf! :)

I followed his steps -- like I mentioned earlier, you may want to call ahead to confirm, as Target will most likely not have them on the floor, thanks to TR & TLK.

I hear ya on the Dinobots, Seibertron! Grimmy is not doing it for me either, and I'm not honestly planning on picking them all up -- except for Slash. MOAR FEMME BOTS, plz.

Same thing with Jazz -- his G1 incarnation remains my fave.

I'll most likely buy all the Pretender/PMs, though. And Rodimus Unicronus. :SG-BOTS:


I gave the DPCI code to a Target associate and they were really nice and got the box out for me. He opened it and then, essentially just left me to look through it for the figures I wanted. Got one of each. From what another associate said, they're likely not going to be put on shelves until next week sometime, probably Black Friday, as she said they were all located in an area that was specifically for Black Friday stock- but that they could sell them, as there was no street date on them.
Re: Initial In-Hand Images of Transformers Power of the Primes Grimlock, Slash & Volcanicus (1921905)
Posted by Qwan on November 16th, 2017 @ 2:03am CST
Well I did another set of rounds today on my mission to find PotP figures in Australia and while - spoilers - long story short, I didn't have any luck, I do feel way better about it than I did the other day.

Customer service reps at all three stores (well actually just two; the third store moved its customer service desk some time last year and I haven't been able to find it since :lol: ) were really nice and helpful; one store tried to help me for what must've been a solid half hour before they apologised for not being able to find anything. They didn't seem to recognise the concepts or examples of DPCI or manufacturer codes so no luck there, but they searched all through the systems as best they could.

The main information I got out of this, aside from the fact that my local stores probably don't have any PotP stuff yet, is that 1) Every store-chain gives items their own individual database codes, so more general ones might not actually be much use, and 2) It's practically impossible to look up a figure in the database if you don't already know the code of the thing you're looking for (especially if you're not sure whether it's even in the database yet to begin with).

So on the Australian end at least, I think the conclusion here is "sit tight and they'll come eventually". And also "gee I wish there was something like Brickseek that'd work for Australian stores".
Re: Initial In-Hand Images of Transformers Power of the Primes Grimlock, Slash & Volcanicus (1921910)
Posted by DEANO85 on November 16th, 2017 @ 2:56am CST
I remember how long it took us to get the first waves of combiner wars in Australia. So I know it will a small wait until we see any of the POTP figures show up. Really keen for Jazz since I want to add him to Optimus Maximus.
Re: Initial In-Hand Images of Transformers Power of the Primes Grimlock, Slash & Volcanicus (1921912)
Posted by leokearon on November 16th, 2017 @ 4:24am CST
I think it was very near to Christmas (like the week before) before Ireland got the first wave of CW and I think TR, so I'm suspecting something similar. Then again we haven't gotten TR wave 5 yet.
Re: Initial In-Hand Images of Transformers Power of the Primes Grimlock, Slash & Volcanicus (1921913)
Posted by Dr. Caelus on November 16th, 2017 @ 5:02am CST
Seibertron wrote:As is the case with all of the deluxe Dinobots, his body isn't wide enough or something, which I've also complained about with some of the Aerialbots and Vortex (off the top of my head) [...] Dreadwind and Blackwing both suffer from the too-thin or not-wide-enough bodies of the aforementioned Combiner Wars figures.


I only felt that way about Brawl. I prefer the 'narrower' figures because otherwise TFs can get so 'puffy' that they look like they would have #TRexProblems. I like having a few guys that are relative Hulks in their proportions (characters like Blitzwing, Grimlock, Lugnut, Strika, etc.) but I prefer most characters not have that Dreamwave-Era top-heaviness.

All in all, though, I wish Predaking had been one of standard combiners, and Volcanicus had been the Titan Class combiner for the line. Having the Dinobots each be Voyager-sized would have been good, and having their combiner come in at the same height as Devastator would have also been nice. But then we go down the rabbit hole of wishes and wants (e.g., Sludge/Slog should be the torso component, and Grimlock an arm).
Re: Initial In-Hand Images of Transformers Power of the Primes Grimlock, Slash & Volcanicus (1921915)
Posted by Burn on November 16th, 2017 @ 5:56am CST
Qwan wrote:So on the Australian end at least, I think the conclusion here is "sit tight and they'll come eventually".

January.
Re: Initial In-Hand Images of Transformers Power of the Primes Grimlock, Slash & Volcanicus (1921918)
Posted by Rodimus Knight on November 16th, 2017 @ 7:09am CST
Nightbeat339 wrote:I've loved TR, but to me PotP seems like a step down. Grimlock looks awful in Dino mode! The other two dinobots look decent, but I really wish they had some chrome on them.


Most of My transformers are displayed in Robot Mode, the exception that I saw, was the Dino Bots. I don't even think I would combine them, I was probably going to leave them in Dino Mode....except for grimlock... that backside....

As far as the Chrome goes, I expect that come SDCC they will have a volcanous set with the vac metalized gold coloring, and maybe the smoked plastic like the original dinobots.
Re: Initial In-Hand Images of Transformers Power of the Primes Grimlock, Slash & Volcanicus (1921920)
Posted by Skritz on November 16th, 2017 @ 7:27am CST
What I find funny is that the Dinobots are rather slavishly G1 and people aren't happy.
Re: Initial In-Hand Images of Transformers Power of the Primes Grimlock, Slash & Volcanicus (1921921)
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on November 16th, 2017 @ 7:33am CST
Skritz wrote:What I find funny is that the Dinobots are rather slavishly G1 and people aren't happy.


They didn't combine in G1 and that seems to be one of the reasons that in some ways these new figures are worse than the ones from over 30 years ago.
Re: Initial In-Hand Images of Transformers Power of the Primes Grimlock, Slash & Volcanicus (1921923)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on November 16th, 2017 @ 7:37am CST
leokearon wrote:I think it was very near to Christmas (like the week before) before Ireland got the first wave of CW and I think TR, so I'm suspecting something similar. Then again we haven't gotten TR wave 5 yet.


CW probably, but likely not TR unless they were reeeeaaallly late or early since TR started mid year (June/July 2016) instead of at the end/beginning like CW and PotP.
Re: Initial In-Hand Images of Transformers Power of the Primes Grimlock, Slash & Volcanicus (1921924)
Posted by Seibertron on November 16th, 2017 @ 8:19am CST
Carnivius_Prime wrote:
Skritz wrote:What I find funny is that the Dinobots are rather slavishly G1 and people aren't happy.


They didn't combine in G1 and that seems to be one of the reasons that in some ways these new figures are worse than the ones from over 30 years ago.


They're close to being slavish, but I think that's what the problem is. The deluxes are fine for what they are but they all have issues which stand out even more since they're close but not quite, but Grimlock is a flat out disaster in trex mode and in robot mode he has none of his appropriate weapons, and therefore volcanicus doesn't have a weapon.

I agree about the dinobots should have been the amazing titan class set, predaking should have been a regular combiner. To see devastator and volcanicus duke it out since they are arch enemies, that would have been amazing and given devastator an in scale rival.
Re: Initial In-Hand Images of Transformers Power of the Primes Grimlock, Slash & Volcanicus (1921927)
Posted by ThunderThruster on November 16th, 2017 @ 8:26am CST
Caelus wrote:All in all, though, I wish Predaking had been one of standard combiners, and Volcanicus had been the Titan Class combiner for the line. Having the Dinobots each be Voyager-sized would have been good, and having their combiner come in at the same height as Devastator would have also been nice. But then we go down the rabbit hole of wishes and wants (e.g., Sludge/Slog should be the torso component, and Grimlock an arm).


This.
It would have been so much better as you've described here.
Re: Initial In-Hand Images of Transformers Power of the Primes Grimlock, Slash & Volcanicus (1921928)
Posted by MECHdirge on November 16th, 2017 @ 8:58am CST
Ditto! I would have sprung for Voyager scale combiner Dinobots, but the oversized Predators are unlikely to go into my collection. I will still pick up the Dinobots, but I would have preferred the reverse, as other posters have commented.

As much as many have disliked these figures, I have to say I’m pretty pleased. Maybe I have lower standards, but the minor issues strike me as... well, minor. I loved Combiner Wars. I liked Titans Return, too, but was still irked CW was killed off without the addition of some more combiners (not simply recolonization/minor remold). PotP is really CW2. I could live without the gimmick, true, but it doesn’t bug me. It is geared towards their primary market—actual kids. I will probably pick up the Prime Masters, but they are pretty low on my list. I will probably skip the Shattered Glass Rodimus that others seem to like, the Predacons (unless they really blow me away in quality, which I find unlikely), and possibly some of the other leader Class figs (recolonization, especially... may skip monkey Prime, too).
Re: Initial In-Hand Images of Transformers Power of the Primes Grimlock, Slash & Volcanicus (1921929)
Posted by leokearon on November 16th, 2017 @ 9:01am CST
Combiners or not, I'm just glad I will finally be able to have all five Dinobots.
Re: Initial In-Hand Images of Transformers Power of the Primes Grimlock, Slash & Volcanicus (1921938)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on November 16th, 2017 @ 9:35am CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Omegatron. wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:I'm a little skeptical about there being 12 different cards for every single figure in the line.


So far it's looking like there is.

:shock: Someone give the writers of their bios a raise... and a week off.

This is Awesome!
leokearon wrote:Combiners or not, I'm just glad I will finally be able to have all five Dinobots.

Agreed, plus a new little dinobot member! I'm actually pretty excited to form Volcanicus, combining dinobots is still cool to me
Re: Initial In-Hand Images of Transformers Power of the Primes Grimlock, Slash & Volcanicus (1921939)
Posted by bodrock on November 16th, 2017 @ 9:37am CST
I would've gone for a Titan-class Volcanicus.

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Dreadwind looks great - everything I expected, really. He's my first incarnation of the character, and I can't wait to get his partner...
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Re: Initial In-Hand Images of Transformers Power of the Primes Grimlock, Slash & Volcanicus (1921943)
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on November 16th, 2017 @ 10:10am CST
MECHdirge wrote:ented.

As much as many have disliked these figures, I have to say I’m pretty pleased. Maybe I have lower standards, but the minor issues strike me as... well, minor. I loved Combiner Wars. I liked Titans Return, too, but was still irked CW was killed off without the addition of some more combiners (not simply recolonization/minor remold). PotP is really CW2. I could live without the gimmick, true, but it doesn’t bug me. It is geared towards their primary market—actual kids.


I thought RID was more directly for the kids hence the bright colours and simple blocky characters with goofy faces and these all being G1 characters that most kids won't know or have any attachment too were aimed at more at teens and 'adults'. Either way it's full of badly executed designs. There are characters here I would like to buy great figures of but these are definitely not those figures at all...
Re: Initial In-Hand Images of Transformers Power of the Primes Grimlock, Slash & Volcanicus (1921946)
Posted by zodconvoy on November 16th, 2017 @ 10:19am CST
Seibertron wrote:I agree about the dinobots should have been the amazing titan class set, predaking should have been a regular combiner. To see devastator and volcanicus duke it out since they are arch enemies, that would have been amazing and given devastator an in scale rival.


See, I don't think of the Volcanicus and Devastator as rivals. The Dinobots are enemies of Devastator, sure, but Devastator's direct rival in battle is Omega Supreme. A Titan Omega Supreme would hit sooooo many check boxes in my collection. That's what I'm holding out for.
Re: Initial In-Hand Images of Transformers Power of the Primes Grimlock, Slash & Volcanicus (1921947)
Posted by Stuartmaximus on November 16th, 2017 @ 10:21am CST
+ we may still see Volcanicus & Dev Duke it out in Machinima Power Of The Primes ;)
Re: Initial In-Hand Images of Transformers Power of the Primes Grimlock, Slash & Volcanicus (1921948)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on November 16th, 2017 @ 10:30am CST
Carnivius_Prime wrote:
MECHdirge wrote:ented.

As much as many have disliked these figures, I have to say I’m pretty pleased. Maybe I have lower standards, but the minor issues strike me as... well, minor. I loved Combiner Wars. I liked Titans Return, too, but was still irked CW was killed off without the addition of some more combiners (not simply recolonization/minor remold). PotP is really CW2. I could live without the gimmick, true, but it doesn’t bug me. It is geared towards their primary market—actual kids.


I thought RID was more directly for the kids hence the bright colours and simple blocky characters with goofy faces and these all being G1 characters that most kids won't know or have any attachment too were aimed at more at teens and 'adults'. Either way it's full of badly executed designs. There are characters here I would like to buy great figures of but these are definitely not those figures at all...


Well, being toys, technically all the lines are primarily geared towards kids. I'm pretty sure someone else mentioned that adult collectors make up about 30% of their market, so directing an entire line towards only that market at a retail pricepoint would likely kill off the line. There simply has to still be a kid appeal, which is where line wide gimmicks come into play. A kid nowadays, may not have any clue how Swoop is as a character, but a team of 5 dino/robot transformers, that also combine into a big guy? That is going to be some serious pull for a kid.

Basically this is Hasbro trying to satisfy both ends of their demographic, which will typically never fully satisfy either side.
Re: Initial In-Hand Images of Transformers Power of the Primes Grimlock, Slash & Volcanicus (1921957)
Posted by Ultra Markus on November 16th, 2017 @ 11:18am CST
zodconvoy wrote:
Seibertron wrote:I agree about the dinobots should have been the amazing titan class set, predaking should have been a regular combiner. To see devastator and volcanicus duke it out since they are arch enemies, that would have been amazing and given devastator an in scale rival.


See, I don't think of the Volcanicus and Devastator as rivals. The Dinobots are enemies of Devastator, sure, but Devastator's direct rival in battle is Omega Supreme. A Titan Omega Supreme would hit sooooo many check boxes in my collection. That's what I'm holding out for.

Titan omega supreme would be the s**t! :BOWDOWN:
Re: Initial In-Hand Images of Transformers Power of the Primes Grimlock, Slash & Volcanicus (1921959)
Posted by o.supreme on November 16th, 2017 @ 11:37am CST
We all seem to have different opinions which is nice...but I'm a fan of consistency. To me it would be nice if ALL the Combiners were the same size, since in the original animated series, this was the case. Having all 6 Constructicons as deluxe size would have made them roughly the same height as the other combiners. Predaking as a Voyager and 4 deluxes (made to be compatible with all others) would have been nice as well. I get why Hasbro did Devastator as 6 Voaygers, as a "BIG" toy is more appealing for playability...but Dev being bigger than all the others is still an eyesore in some respects.

Also as many have said, I think if there ever is a new Omega Supreme, it will be Titan Scale to match Devastator, being the same size, but not as big as Metro or Fort Max (although FT is...but that's another story...).

However with Predaking being made of 5 voyagers, although it is considered a "Titan" size toy, it will be in this odd size class, slightly taller than the standard combiner, but a little shorter than Devastator...I'm sure it will look great, but the size again will be off, and being his Rival is technically Sky Lynx (Sky Reign in this case), we will have another mismatch on our hands.
Re: Initial In-Hand Images of Transformers Power of the Primes Grimlock, Slash & Volcanicus (1921973)
Posted by Seibertron on November 16th, 2017 @ 12:41pm CST
o.supreme wrote:it would be nice if ALL the Combiners were the same size, since in the original animated series, this was the case. Having all 6 Constructicons as deluxe size would have made them roughly the same height as the other combiners.


I'm still hoping for deluxe class Constructicons that solves the 6 deluxe figure problem. Then we could get Raiden, Liokaiser done right, Landcross, and some of the Micromaster combiners but done as regular sized. I'd be very happen with that. They just need to figure out how to get 2 deluxes to become the torso instead of a Voyager.
Re: Initial In-Hand Images of Transformers Power of the Primes Grimlock, Slash & Volcanicus (1921975)
Posted by o.supreme on November 16th, 2017 @ 12:51pm CST
^Exactly. I like the way you think. ;)^ Though I don't think Takara or Hasbro has this in their Grand Plan. I don't think making 2 deluxes into a Torso would be too difficult (jusat take the existing CW Devastator and scale it down accordingly), but conforming them to mix/match with other 5 team combiners certainly would be quite the daunting engineering task.

Just to be clear. I would not require that 6 member combiners like Devastator, Raiden, Landcross etc... have the cross-compatibility with other combiners, but just be scaled to the same size. Though, TBH, if we get 5 member versions of Landcross, or Monstrucor/Dinoking that are cross compatible with the others, I would no be too upset.
Re: Initial In-Hand Images of Transformers Power of the Primes Grimlock, Slash & Volcanicus (1921980)
Posted by whitesneaka on November 16th, 2017 @ 1:27pm CST
I'm sorrry but does anyone else feel Volcanicus is a dumb name for the combined form? It's like they tried TOO hard... something more simplistic (like the bots who make up the big guy) would have been more suitable. "Dino King" (play off Predaking) or "King Grimlock" (Nod to the big guys ego) or maybe even simpler "Dinotron".... I just feel Volcanicus just doesnt roll off the tongue easily.... anyway, at least the toys are kick ass!
Re: Initial In-Hand Images of Transformers Power of the Primes Grimlock, Slash & Volcanicus (1921986)
Posted by Ultra Markus on November 16th, 2017 @ 2:14pm CST
o.supreme wrote:^Exactly. I like the way you think. ;)^ Though I don't think Takara or Hasbro has this in their Grand Plan. I don't think making 2 deluxes into a Torso would be too difficult (jusat take the existing CW Devastator and scale it down accordingly), but conforming them to mix/match with other 5 team combiners certainly would be quite the daunting engineering task.
Just to be clear. I would not require that 6 member combiners like Devastator, Raiden, Landcross etc... have the cross-compatibility with other combiners, but just be scaled to the same size. Though, TBH, if we get 5 member versions of Landcross, or Monstrucor/Dinoking that are cross compatible with the others, I would no be too upset.

Having all the combined at the same scale would be nice and all but it really doesn't bother me all that much
What I think would be cool and I know that it won't ever happen is to scale them all to the CW Devastater so we would have all these massive combiners ;)
Re: Initial In-Hand Images of Transformers Power of the Primes Grimlock, Slash & Volcanicus (1921993)
Posted by Dr. Caelus on November 16th, 2017 @ 3:05pm CST
Seibertron wrote:I'm still hoping for deluxe class Constructicons that solves the 6 deluxe figure problem. Then we could get Raiden, Liokaiser done right, Landcross, and some of the Micromaster combiners but done as regular sized. I'd be very happen with that. They just need to figure out how to get 2 deluxes to become the torso instead of a Voyager.



At this point, this is essentially my 40th Anniversary fantasy:

"Power Master" ($5)
- Titan Master Liokaiser

"Minicon 2 Pack" ($10)
- Jaguarbeast and Lionbeast
- Hawkbeast and Komoribeast
- Hornbeast and Bisonbeast

"Combiner Warrior" ($15)
- Guyhawk
- Hellbat
- Ironbison
- Drillhorn

"Powerlinx Commander 2 Pack" ($25)
- Leozack & Jallguar with Titan Master head swapping partners.


So you open up the Powerlinx Commanders 2 Pack first. The figures are roughly deluxe sized, and they have the old Titan Master gimmick, and - for the first time in a long time, the much older Powerlinx gimmick from Transformers Energon. The two figures can be combined into a single (slightly awkward but still viable) robot, with either figure forming the top or the bottom, and their Titan Master heads swapping to determine who has control of the combined form. (Really, engineering this sort of thing is actually easier when the heads come off anyway.) After transforming them into a robot mode that has Leozack on top, you collapse the limbs down and locking them into place, and find yourself with a solid Combiner Wars compatible torso in hand.

So you open the deluxe class Combiner Warriors - Hasbro, admittedly, skimped on these. They're just re-releases of the boxset figures from Combiner Wars years ago, with new accessories and a bit better paint jobs (if you had the Liokaiser boxset, you might not even bother). In a moment, you've got them all turned into their appropriate limbs, and clipped to your powerlinxed torso.

So then you open the minicon two packs... Each minicon is advertised as a robotic animal that become a weapon for a deluxe class figure, or a vehicle for a Titan/Prime Master. Additionally, however, each minicon becomes an upgrade part for a combiner. Hornbeast and Bisonbeast each become boots, replacing the dinky little vanilla feet on your combiner. Hawkbeast and Komoribeast become fists, likewise replacing his awkward little hands. Jaguarbeast becomes an armored chest plate that powerlinks to the torso like the old Power Core Combiner Minicons. Finally Lionbeast becomes a helmet, that clicks onto the top.

So that's when you pull out the last and smallest of the figures - Titan Master Liokaiser and whatever other 'master' figures you've collected from the line. There are titan masters, of course, that transform into faces or heads (like Liokaiser) but being a 40th anniversary line there are also Sparkmasters (who have shiny Beast-Era spark crystals on their backs), Energonmasters (who have ports of Energon Stars on their backs), and Micromasters (who have Minicon Ports on their backs), Cybermasters (who have Cyber Key parts on their backs), and even Spymasters (who have rub decals on their backs).

Titan Master Liokaiser folds up and fits into the Lionbeast helmet, just like the Titan Master for any Leader Class figure, forming the face of your combiner. Your other 'master' figures slot into the boots, fists, and chest armor of the figure (just like they do in the Power of the Primes figures).

Feeling less whimsical today than you some times do, you plug an Energonmaster into each boot (adding energon stars for a little flair), a Micromaster to the back of each fist, and a Decepticon Sparkmaster to the chestplate. In the end, the result looks very much like G1 Liokaiser, albeit a bit bulkier and heavier than his Combiner Wars release. However, thanks to his Minicon kibble-armor, he's studded with places to attach more minicons, energon weapons, etc., making him a potential bling-monster covered with four decades of gimmicks.

Most importantly, though, you now have a combiner that's technically made of eighteen different figures.
Re: Initial In-Hand Images of Transformers Power of the Primes Grimlock, Slash & Volcanicus (1921994)
Posted by Skritz on November 16th, 2017 @ 3:11pm CST
I'm still betting on a five-man Monstructor with a legends-class figure to round up the official team lineup.
Re: Initial In-Hand Images of Transformers Power of the Primes Grimlock, Slash & Volcanicus (1921995)
Posted by bodrock on November 16th, 2017 @ 3:27pm CST
I would love to have Monstructor -- with the reappearance of the Pretenders, this should be an easy win, right?
Re: Initial In-Hand Images of Transformers Power of the Primes Grimlock, Slash & Volcanicus (1922000)
Posted by Qwan on November 16th, 2017 @ 4:07pm CST
whitesneaka wrote:I'm sorrry but does anyone else feel Volcanicus is a dumb name for the combined form? It's like they tried TOO hard... something more simplistic (like the bots who make up the big guy) would have been more suitable. "Dino King" (play off Predaking) or "King Grimlock" (Nod to the big guys ego) or maybe even simpler "Dinotron".... I just feel Volcanicus just doesnt roll off the tongue easily.... anyway, at least the toys are kick ass!
Nah, you just don't get it, Volcanyoudothecancanicus is an awesome name that isn't at all awkward or cumbersome! :-P


Caelus wrote:[pure genius awesome fantasy]
This, is crazy cool. AWESOME idea man! Sadly I don't really expect this to come to fruition, but who knows - in the last five years alone we've come from FoC Bruticus to the masterpieces-by-comparison CW/PotP combiners, so it's really anyone's guess where we could be at in another 7 years' time. If something like that Liokaiser is what we actually end up with in 2024, I bet I honestly won't have been able to be happier (tenses man, they're hard)!
Re: Initial In-Hand Images of Transformers Power of the Primes Grimlock, Slash & Volcanicus (1922001)
Posted by Prime Target on November 16th, 2017 @ 4:12pm CST
Slag's Dino head looks alot better in person than in Photos :D i have a couple of issues with Swoop

1. His chest is blue not red
2. They haven't given him his G1 missile launchers nor have they attempted to make the Originals Compatible with the figure they could've at least made the Wing Scew points 5mm ports for the missile Launhers.

Other than that i'm hype for these because FIRST GENERATIONS G1 DINOBOTS!

Jazz looks alright but i can see a few problems right off the bat

1. The elbows look like Ball joints which will either wear quickly or break easily
2. All photos of him make him look like crap
3. the gun looks kinda weak and too similar to TR Blurr

Another thing i've noticed is that Jazz looks ALOT like he does in Earth Wars

I no issues with Dreadwind he inherites a great mold from Skydive with all of his Articulation the legs are a bit shite though
Re: Initial In-Hand Images of Transformers Power of the Primes Grimlock, Slash & Volcanicus (1922003)
Posted by o.supreme on November 16th, 2017 @ 4:23pm CST
whitesneaka wrote:I'm sorrry but does anyone else feel Volcanicus is a dumb name for the combined form? It's like they tried TOO hard... something more simplistic (like the bots who make up the big guy) would have been more suitable. "Dino King" (play off Predaking) or "King Grimlock" (Nod to the big guys ego) or maybe even simpler "Dinotron".... I just feel Volcanicus just doesnt roll off the tongue easily.... anyway, at least the toys are kick ass!


Well Dinoking is already taken ;) . Maybe they were trying to hard, but I think they were going for something unique that would not be easily confused with any other Transformers name. It's ok, it certainly could have been much worse. I wonder if :TAKARATOMY: will name him differently, or if they'll just go with Grand Grimlock. heh...
Re: Initial In-Hand Images of Transformers Power of the Primes Grimlock, Slash & Volcanicus (1922007)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on November 16th, 2017 @ 5:10pm CST
Seibertron wrote:
o.supreme wrote:it would be nice if ALL the Combiners were the same size, since in the original animated series, this was the case. Having all 6 Constructicons as deluxe size would have made them roughly the same height as the other combiners.


I'm still hoping for deluxe class Constructicons that solves the 6 deluxe figure problem. Then we could get Raiden, Liokaiser done right, Landcross, and some of the Micromaster combiners but done as regular sized. I'd be very happen with that. They just need to figure out how to get 2 deluxes to become the torso instead of a Voyager.


There is no doubt in my mind that we will see a Devastator made of 6 deluxe figures at some point. When that point is I don't know.
Re: Initial In-Hand Images of Transformers Power of the Primes Grimlock, Slash & Volcanicus (1922009)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on November 16th, 2017 @ 5:13pm CST
For those of you wondering what the limb modes of the Dinobots look like, and how to get the Prime Master Module on Swoops chest, this can help. Please share it around.

Re: Initial In-Hand Images of Transformers Power of the Primes Grimlock, Slash & Volcanicus (1922010)
Posted by cruizerdave on November 16th, 2017 @ 5:23pm CST
I don't know if I'm 100 percent sold on that Grimlock, but I do like the way they look together. I kinda doubt he'll spend a lot of time in combined mode! :lol:
Re: Initial In-Hand Images of Transformers Power of the Primes Grimlock, Slash & Volcanicus (1922011)
Posted by cruizerdave on November 16th, 2017 @ 5:24pm CST
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Seibertron wrote:
o.supreme wrote:it would be nice if ALL the Combiners were the same size, since in the original animated series, this was the case. Having all 6 Constructicons as deluxe size would have made them roughly the same height as the other combiners.


I'm still hoping for deluxe class Constructicons that solves the 6 deluxe figure problem. Then we could get Raiden, Liokaiser done right, Landcross, and some of the Micromaster combiners but done as regular sized. I'd be very happen with that. They just need to figure out how to get 2 deluxes to become the torso instead of a Voyager.


There is no doubt in my mind that we will see a Devastator made of 6 deluxe figures at some point. When that point is I don't know.

Being is how they were all basically deluxe figures that were just upscaled, I kind think it'd be easy to do. ;)^
Re: Initial In-Hand Images of Transformers Power of the Primes Grimlock, Slash & Volcanicus (1922018)
Posted by Skritz on November 16th, 2017 @ 5:42pm CST
What's so hard on the tongue about Volcanicus? It sound like some cheesy '80 power metal band in a garage, sure, but it fits the fire-breathing Dinobots decently. Or would you guys have preferred it be called 'The Beast'? ;)
Re: Initial In-Hand Images of Transformers Power of the Primes Grimlock, Slash & Volcanicus (1922019)
Posted by Sabrblade on November 16th, 2017 @ 5:48pm CST
Skritz wrote:What's so hard on the tongue about Volcanicus? It sound like some cheesy '80 power metal band in a garage, sure, but it fits the fire-breathing Dinobots decently. Or would you guys have preferred it be called 'The Beast'? ;)
It sounds like a bit of a mouthful with at least one too many syllables. Something like just "Volcanus" would roll off the tongue better.
Re: Initial In-Hand Images of Transformers Power of the Primes Grimlock, Slash & Volcanicus (1922020)
Posted by Qwan on November 16th, 2017 @ 5:53pm CST
Skritz wrote:What's so hard on the tongue about Volcanicus? It sound like some cheesy '80 power metal band in a garage, sure, but it fits the fire-breathing Dinobots decently. Or would you guys have preferred it be called 'The Beast'? ;)

I dunno what exactly it is about his name, but it feels super ridiculous to me. It's not honestly that bad a name (I agree that something as overkill as this fits the Dinobots to a T), it's just fun to poke at it 'cause it sounds funny when you say it and looks funny written down. :lol:

But, honestly? Divorced from that abomination of a comic? Hells yeah I'd be on board with calling a Dinobot combiner "The Beast". It's equally overkill, but in a more primal "gonna beat you down" than a "listen to our rockin' guitar solo" kind of way. Plus, it makes me think of this, which is a cool connotation for (what we can only assume is) a primitive and terrifying warrior:

Image
Re: Initial In-Hand Images of Transformers Power of the Primes Grimlock, Slash & Volcanicus (1922024)
Posted by Skritz on November 16th, 2017 @ 6:04pm CST
Maybe it's because I speak french daily and Vol-ca-ni-cus isn't that much of a mouthful. Hell, 'Volcan' is just volcano in frech but with one letter less. Maybe people are putting the emphasis on the wrong syllable? Try saying it with a different inflection. I pronounce it "VolCANeecus". Rhymes with 'Vulcan' and 'Eruption'.

If you say the 'I' in it as an 'ai' as you'd normally say it in english it ruins the flow of the name. I assume people say or read it "VolcanNAIcus" which sounds wrong.
Re: Initial In-Hand Images of Transformers Power of the Primes Grimlock, Slash & Volcanicus (1922034)
Posted by Qwan on November 16th, 2017 @ 6:56pm CST
Skritz wrote:Maybe it's because I speak french daily and Vol-ca-ni-cus isn't that much of a mouthful. Hell, 'Volcan' is just volcano in frech but with one letter less. Maybe people are putting the emphasis on the wrong syllable? Try saying it with a different inflection. I pronounce it "VolCANeecus". Rhymes with 'Vulcan' and 'Eruption'.

If you say the 'I' in it as an 'ai' as you'd normally say it in english it ruins the flow of the name. I assume people say or read it "VolcanNAIcus" which sounds wrong.

I've been pronouncing it like that since the start, but I still don't think it sounds great (although I agree it's way better than "Vol-cay-ni-cus" or "Vol-ca-nai-cus"). I think it's the stop of the 'ic' that ruins the flow - "Volcanus", as suggested by Sabr, rolls off the tongue in one smooth motion while "Volcanicus" has to stop between the third and fourth syllables because of that 'c'. I dunno though really, maybe we're analysing the name of a toy too deeply... nah, of course not :P

(And of course I had to use the name properly in order to discuss pronunciation, but for the record, the novelty name this time around is Volcanihazcheezburgerus. I'M NOT STOPPING THIS IS HAPPENING)
Re: Initial In-Hand Images of Transformers Power of the Primes Grimlock, Slash & Volcanicus (1922035)
Posted by bodrock on November 16th, 2017 @ 7:05pm CST
Volcan-NIC-us? ;p

We need to stick to basic names. Like Octopunch.
IMG_8553.JPG
Re: Initial In-Hand Images of Transformers Power of the Primes Grimlock, Slash & Volcanicus (1922037)
Posted by Qwan on November 16th, 2017 @ 7:13pm CST
bodrock wrote:Volcan-NIC-us? ;p

We need to stick to basic names. Like Octopunch.
IMG_8553.JPG

...DUDE.

DINOPUNCH.
Re: Initial In-Hand Images of Transformers Power of the Primes Grimlock, Slash & Volcanicus (1922042)
Posted by Bronzewolf on November 16th, 2017 @ 7:34pm CST
Qwan wrote:
bodrock wrote:Volcan-NIC-us? ;p

We need to stick to basic names. Like Octopunch.
IMG_8553.JPG

...DUDE.

DINOPUNCH.

Dinopunch is my new band name.

(Also, bonus points for Volcancanyoudothecancanicus. I had a good laugh.)

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