In-Hand - Takara Tomy Transformers Adventure TAV56 Nemesis Prime

That red is so pretty.

Are those some scenes we haven't seen yet from upcoming episodes on the back of the packaging?

I wonder how good it would look to swap the red for the original blue wings/swords.

That is so cool looking

Arent the top of Starscream's shoulders supposed to be blue?

william-james88 wrote:Arent the top of Starscream's shoulders supposed to be blue?

They look gray to me in that pic.

Keep in mind that whole image is blue-tinted given it's from a recording of a recording, so everything in it has a blue hue to it.

Fellow Seibertronian Chuckdawg has gotten his mits on Takara's Transformers Adventure TAV 56 Nemesis Prime. Below are his thoughts on the figure which he compared to the Clash of the Transformers vesion.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Nemesis Prime is a fantastic repaint of the Clash of the Transformers, Power Surge Optimus Prime, itself a retool of the Warrior Class Optimus Prime figure. The black and silver pops on the figure thanks to the teal highlights. The mold features a great cross play pattern with the weapons. If you can only get one, either US version is great, but if you can get two, Nemesis Prime is worth the price.

I sort of wish he'd had a red blade on his axe - what colour was the axe on the previous one ?

RAR wrote:I sort of wish he'd had a red blade on his axe - what colour was the axe on the previous one ?

Exactly that, a red blade:



I gues they wanted to give a different weapon colour than before since it would be the same weapon again

I really must buy both kinds of Nemesis & Voyager sized Former Prime darker blue Ultra Magnus sometime... They keep slipping my mind though.

Fellow Transformers fan kyano13neo on Twitter was able to acquire a handful (yes, really) of Toys'R'Us Japan Takara Tomy exclusive TAV Optimus Prime figures, revealed last month, with the retailer specific deco and naming - made to look similar to the shop's Jeffrey the giraffe mascotte - and shared image of the figure for all to see! Included below are comparisons with the previous, Legion class, version of the toy, some fan modes, shots of the robot and vehicle mode, and a look at the bio.

Just as I thought: no real noticable differences between the original fig and the mass-released version. I will stick with the original, then.

the team who did the color scheme were probably Toqger fans.

I dearly hope this gets repurposed as SG Longrack.

Microraptor wrote:I dearly hope this gets repurposed as SG Longrack.

Like last year, Toysrus Japan will also have the Clash of the Transformers Adventure figures found in the west. All three are currently listed on Japan's Toysrus website and include the white redeco of Power Surge Optimus Prime, Starscream and Scavenger (Paralon). They are 2,299 yen each. As you will notice, this is the second version of Starscream available in Japan and while we do not know if that means Hasbro will also have a different mainline Starscream release, it is important to remember that the same thing happened last year with Takara offering a different Supreme Mode Bumblebee aside from the one available exclusively at Toysrus.

Weird how they changed Paralon's name to the name of his group. I guess it was a part of a mistranslation in the Japanese thinking that Paralon being called "a scavenger" referred to his name instead of what kind of person he is. Hope they don't make the same mistake with the rest of his group should more of them besides Scatterspike get Adventure toys.

Sabrblade wrote:Weird how they changed Paralon's name to the name of his group. I guess it was a part of a mistranslation in the Japanese think that Paralon being called "a scavenger" referred to his name instead of what kind of person he is. Hope they don't make the same mistake with the rest of his group should more of them besides Scatterspike get Adventure toys.

On a hunch I decided to Google パラロン pararon and I'm getting some interesting results, like one relating to a Multi-Sport event called パラロン・パンバンサpararon panbansa and 全国パラロン・ケミアスルーフ防水工事業協同組合 zenkoku pararon kemiasurūfu bōsui kōji-gyō kyōdō kumiai, a roofing contractor company. Trademarks shouldn't be that much of a problem since they're not in Toys & Games, but still... Most results referred to our Paralon though, from blogs who got the US version first.

This makes me kinda sad.



Like, they haven't randomly borrowed a toy from another toyline like Generations Skrapnel or Animated Swoop since Wave 8. C'mon Takara, that was half the fun of this!

Kurona wrote:This makes me kinda sad.



Like, they haven't randomly borrowed a toy from another toyline like Generations Skrapnel or Animated Swoop since Wave 8. C'mon Takara, that was half the fun of this!

TAV30 Battle Grimlock, TAV31 Black Shadow, TAV32 Rumble & Frenzy, and TAV VS-SP Dogfight vs. Decepticon Runamuck were the last ones, huh? I guess the line no longer needed bolstering, and the Legends Class figures now have a place in Legends.

For what it's worth, it did cut down the list of unused toolings to this:

- Gears
- Huffer
- Chop Shop
- Windcharger
- Warpath
- Wreck-Gar

- Goldfire
- Dreadwing
- Jhiaxus
- Crosscut

- Starscream (Leader)

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Kurona wrote:This makes me kinda sad.



Like, they haven't randomly borrowed a toy from another toyline like Generations Skrapnel or Animated Swoop since Wave 8. C'mon Takara, that was half the fun of this!

TAV30 Battle Grimlock, TAV31 Black Shadow, TAV32 Rumble & Frenzy, and TAV VS-SP Dogfight vs. Decepticon Runamuck were the last ones, huh? I guess the line no longer needed bolstering, and the Legends Class figures now have a place in Legends.

For what it's worth, it did cut down the list of unused toolings to this:

- Gears
- Huffer
- Chop Shop
- Windcharger
- Warpath
- Wreck-Gar

- Goldfire
- Dreadwing
- Jhiaxus
- Crosscut

- Starscream (Leader)

A lot of those make sense to me; but I'm surprised they didn't go for Gears, Windcharger and Crosscut since those are retools that happened with the original toys too. Then again, they've only just released Skids recently, so maybe we'll see Crosscut from them soon?

Something about organizing Takara products into "waves" makes me twitchy. They release stuff each month, on a somewhat consistent day. That is, generally speaking, not how the "wave" distribution model works.

ScottyP wrote:Something about organizing Takara products into "waves" makes me twitchy. They release stuff each month, on a somewhat consistent day. That is, generally speaking, not how the "wave" distribution model works.

Well... since October 2015 then.

That TRU Prime is nice, but not $45 US nice. Here's a look at the Takara Windblade, overall a better figure, but I was surprised Hasbro went further with the sword.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:That TRU Prime is nice, but not $45 US nice. Here's a look at the Takara Windblade, overall a better figure, but I was surprised Hasbro went further with the sword.

That TRU prime is only expensive because BBTs hadto buy it off someone who bought it at TRU in japan. The price is more represetative of their hassel to get it than what the toy is actually worth.

Also what do you mean hasbro went further with the sword, they just left is all in black:



It you are comparing it to the SDCC exclusive, then I dont get the point since they are totally different versions and one is a premium exclusive being compared to a standard retail takara release. The only fair comparison to make is with the actual Hasbro Warrior toy whichw as also a standard retail release.

Yes I am since that's the version in the video, and I feel it's a fair comparison since the SDCC version and the Takara version go for roughly the same amount.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Yes I am since that's the version in the video, and I feel it's a fair comparison since the SDCC version and the Takara version go for roughly the same amount.

But... they're not going for the same thing. If someone wants a Windblade accurate to the show - or, for that matter, the comics - they're certainly not going to get the SDCC version. It's a bit like saying "Well, I know some of you are on the fence on which version of Starscream to get; Hasbro or Takara... so to compare to Takara's Starscream, here's Hasbro's Thundercracker".
I get where you're coming from, but the two figures are trying to accomplish two very different things.

Kurona wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Yes I am since that's the version in the video, and I feel it's a fair comparison since the SDCC version and the Takara version go for roughly the same amount.

But... they're not going for the same thing. If someone wants a Windblade accurate to the show - or, for that matter, the comics - they're certainly not going to get the SDCC version. It's a bit like saying "Well, I know some of you are on the fence on which version of Starscream to get; Hasbro or Takara... so to compare to Takara's Starscream, here's Hasbro's Thundercracker".
I get where you're coming from, but the two figures are trying to accomplish two very different things.

But I'm talking about the swords, and that if Hasbro wanted to they could've done something really nice for RID Windblade. Also, who says that Windblade isn't going to show up in season whateverthey'recallingitnow of RID in those colors?

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Kurona wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Yes I am since that's the version in the video, and I feel it's a fair comparison since the SDCC version and the Takara version go for roughly the same amount.

But... they're not going for the same thing. If someone wants a Windblade accurate to the show - or, for that matter, the comics - they're certainly not going to get the SDCC version. It's a bit like saying "Well, I know some of you are on the fence on which version of Starscream to get; Hasbro or Takara... so to compare to Takara's Starscream, here's Hasbro's Thundercracker".
I get where you're coming from, but the two figures are trying to accomplish two very different things.

But I'm talking about the swords, and that if Hasbro wanted to they could've done something really nice for RID Windblade. Also, who says that Windblade isn't going to show up in season whateverthey'recallingitnow of RID in those colors?

Probably the fact this is a Generations boxset rather than an RiD one. And also that it's an SDCC exclusive which is most certainly not marketed towards children hence would make no sense to put on the show.
But on the small chance she does, that's when it'd be relevant; not now. And even then the comparison still wouldn't be apt, because if you wanted a representation of those colours, you certainly wouldn't go Takara.

Kurona wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Kurona wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Yes I am since that's the version in the video, and I feel it's a fair comparison since the SDCC version and the Takara version go for roughly the same amount.

But... they're not going for the same thing. If someone wants a Windblade accurate to the show - or, for that matter, the comics - they're certainly not going to get the SDCC version. It's a bit like saying "Well, I know some of you are on the fence on which version of Starscream to get; Hasbro or Takara... so to compare to Takara's Starscream, here's Hasbro's Thundercracker".
I get where you're coming from, but the two figures are trying to accomplish two very different things.

But I'm talking about the swords, and that if Hasbro wanted to they could've done something really nice for RID Windblade. Also, who says that Windblade isn't going to show up in season whateverthey'recallingitnow of RID in those colors?

Probably the fact this is a Generations boxset rather than an RiD one. And also that it's an SDCC exclusive which is most certainly not marketed towards children hence would make no sense to put on the show.
But on the small chance she does, that's when it'd be relevant; not now. And even then the comparison still wouldn't be apt, because if you wanted a representation of those colours, you certainly wouldn't go Takara.

Or would you?

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Kurona wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Kurona wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Yes I am since that's the version in the video, and I feel it's a fair comparison since the SDCC version and the Takara version go for roughly the same amount.

But... they're not going for the same thing. If someone wants a Windblade accurate to the show - or, for that matter, the comics - they're certainly not going to get the SDCC version. It's a bit like saying "Well, I know some of you are on the fence on which version of Starscream to get; Hasbro or Takara... so to compare to Takara's Starscream, here's Hasbro's Thundercracker".
I get where you're coming from, but the two figures are trying to accomplish two very different things.

But I'm talking about the swords, and that if Hasbro wanted to they could've done something really nice for RID Windblade. Also, who says that Windblade isn't going to show up in season whateverthey'recallingitnow of RID in those colors?

Probably the fact this is a Generations boxset rather than an RiD one. And also that it's an SDCC exclusive which is most certainly not marketed towards children hence would make no sense to put on the show.
But on the small chance she does, that's when it'd be relevant; not now. And even then the comparison still wouldn't be apt, because if you wanted a representation of those colours, you certainly wouldn't go Takara.

Or would you?

Well... no. Because the Takara version is about as different a colour scheme as you can get from the SDCC Windblade.

All I'm saying is that if you're doing a direct comparison like this, then you should compare two figures who are trying to achieve the same thing. You'd get Adventure Windblade for a representation of her in the show, or for some people, as a representation of her in the comics as it works for that purpose as well. The RiD 2015 version of the mold tries to achieve the same thing, hence why the comparison is apt. This isn't the reason you'd get the SDCC version - you'd get the SDCC version because it came with that Brainstorm you really wanted because you want a radically different version of the mold in different colours that might appeal to you better than her actual colours. Not because it's an accurate representation of Windblade in media.

Kurona wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Kurona wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Kurona wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Yes I am since that's the version in the video, and I feel it's a fair comparison since the SDCC version and the Takara version go for roughly the same amount.

But... they're not going for the same thing. If someone wants a Windblade accurate to the show - or, for that matter, the comics - they're certainly not going to get the SDCC version. It's a bit like saying "Well, I know some of you are on the fence on which version of Starscream to get; Hasbro or Takara... so to compare to Takara's Starscream, here's Hasbro's Thundercracker".
I get where you're coming from, but the two figures are trying to accomplish two very different things.

But I'm talking about the swords, and that if Hasbro wanted to they could've done something really nice for RID Windblade. Also, who says that Windblade isn't going to show up in season whateverthey'recallingitnow of RID in those colors?

Probably the fact this is a Generations boxset rather than an RiD one. And also that it's an SDCC exclusive which is most certainly not marketed towards children hence would make no sense to put on the show.
But on the small chance she does, that's when it'd be relevant; not now. And even then the comparison still wouldn't be apt, because if you wanted a representation of those colours, you certainly wouldn't go Takara.

Or would you?

Well... no. Because the Takara version is about as different a colour scheme as you can get from the SDCC Windblade.

All I'm saying is that if you're doing a direct comparison like this, then you should compare two figures who are trying to achieve the same thing. You'd get Adventure Windblade for a representation of her in the show, or for some people, as a representation of her in the comics as it works for that purpose as well. The RiD 2015 version of the mold tries to achieve the same thing, hence why the comparison is apt. This isn't the reason you'd get the SDCC version - you'd get the SDCC version because it came with that Brainstorm you really wanted because you want a radically different version of the mold in different colours that might appeal to you better than her actual colours. Not because it's an accurate representation of Windblade in media.

Uh no, you were right the first time. I got the set for Brainstorm. Let's not kid ourselves, lol

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Yes I am since that's the version in the video, and I feel it's a fair comparison since the SDCC version and the Takara version go for roughly the same amount.

That makes no damn sense Chuck, and you know it. That SDCC windblade can only be officialy purchased in a box set and you only have it because you wanted the Brainstorm, showing how unlikely it is that someone seeks out that version of Windblade when contemplating whether to get it insead of the Takara version.
If you want your videos to be as useful as possible, compare the Takara version to the actual Hasbro version of that deco. That's what people are actually curious about. This is like comparing UW Bruticus to a combiner from FunPub, no one is thinking of either gettign one or the other.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Also, who says that Windblade isn't going to show up in season whateverthey'recallingitnow of RID in those colors?

Because "season whateverthey'recallingitnow" just ended (in Canada) with a mere six episodes and she wasn't in any of them, let alone in the SDCC Windblade's Fortress Maximus-based deco (yes, that's who the SDCC figure's colors are based on).

william-james88 wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Yes I am since that's the version in the video, and I feel it's a fair comparison since the SDCC version and the Takara version go for roughly the same amount.

That makes no damn sense Chuck, and you know it. That SDCC windblade can only be officialy purchased in a box set and you only have it because you wanted the Brainstorm, showing how unlikely it is that someone seeks out that version of Windblade when contemplating whether to get it insead of the Takara version.
If you want your videos to be as useful as possible, compare the Takara version to the actual Hasbro version of that deco. That's what people are actually curious about. This is like comparing UW Bruticus to a combiner from FunPub, no one is thinking of either gettign one or the other.

Makes perfect sense to me, besides the big difference between the Takara and Hasbro version of Windblade is the amount of black detailing. Funny thing, Hasbro Windblade is roughly going for the same amount as the SDCC version, no way I'm paying that much

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Yes I am since that's the version in the video, and I feel it's a fair comparison since the SDCC version and the Takara version go for roughly the same amount.

That makes no damn sense Chuck, and you know it. That SDCC windblade can only be officialy purchased in a box set and you only have it because you wanted the Brainstorm, showing how unlikely it is that someone seeks out that version of Windblade when contemplating whether to get it insead of the Takara version.
If you want your videos to be as useful as possible, compare the Takara version to the actual Hasbro version of that deco. That's what people are actually curious about. This is like comparing UW Bruticus to a combiner from FunPub, no one is thinking of either gettign one or the other.

Makes perfect sense to me, besides the big difference between the Takara and Hasbro version of Windblade is the amount of black detailing. Funny thing, Hasbro Windblade is roughly going for the same amount as the SDCC version, no way I'm paying that much

Definitely don't pay that much. When you have the Takara version there's literally no reason; the RiD version of the mold is the worst.

Kurona wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Yes I am since that's the version in the video, and I feel it's a fair comparison since the SDCC version and the Takara version go for roughly the same amount.

That makes no damn sense Chuck, and you know it. That SDCC windblade can only be officialy purchased in a box set and you only have it because you wanted the Brainstorm, showing how unlikely it is that someone seeks out that version of Windblade when contemplating whether to get it insead of the Takara version.
If you want your videos to be as useful as possible, compare the Takara version to the actual Hasbro version of that deco. That's what people are actually curious about. This is like comparing UW Bruticus to a combiner from FunPub, no one is thinking of either gettign one or the other.

Makes perfect sense to me, besides the big difference between the Takara and Hasbro version of Windblade is the amount of black detailing. Funny thing, Hasbro Windblade is roughly going for the same amount as the SDCC version, no way I'm paying that much

Definitely don't pay that much. When you have the Takara version there's literally no reason; the RiD version of the mold is the worst.

Oh dear God in heaven no I wouldn't do that. I'm not even THAT big of a fan of the mold.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Kurona wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Funny thing, Hasbro Windblade is roughly going for the same amount as the SDCC version, no way I'm paying that much

Definitely don't pay that much. When you have the Takara version there's literally no reason; the RiD version of the mold is the worst.

Oh dear God in heaven no I wouldn't do that. I'm not even THAT big of a fan of the mold.

Relax guys and just do a google search, the hasbro version is by far cheaper than the others.

william-james88 wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Kurona wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Funny thing, Hasbro Windblade is roughly going for the same amount as the SDCC version, no way I'm paying that much

Definitely don't pay that much. When you have the Takara version there's literally no reason; the RiD version of the mold is the worst.

Oh dear God in heaven no I wouldn't do that. I'm not even THAT big of a fan of the mold.

Relax guys and just do a google search, the hasbro version is by far cheaper than the others.

That's way more than retail. First, it's coming from Canada, second, it's sold by a third party seller. I do monitor the prices on figures, but only in the US, and I assure you unless it's sold by Amazon, TRU, Target, or Walmart; Windblade is going for roughly the same amount as the Adventure version.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:That's way more than retail. First, it's coming from Canada, second, it's sold by a third party seller. I do monitor the prices on figures, but only in the US, and I assure you unless it's sold by Amazon, TRU, Target, or Walmart; Windblade is going for roughly the same amount as the Adventure version.

for fuck's sake chuck, just do some research before you post nonsense, the listing was american. it just sold though, so here's another one for 20$ shipping included

https://www.amazon.com/Transformers-Rob ... =windblade?tag=seibertron07-20&

So now its your turn please show me a listing of Adventure Windblade for 20$ shipping included

william-james88 wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:That's way more than retail. First, it's coming from Canada, second, it's sold by a third party seller. I do monitor the prices on figures, but only in the US, and I assure you unless it's sold by Amazon, TRU, Target, or Walmart; Windblade is going for roughly the same amount as the Adventure version.

for ****'s sake chuck, just do some research before you post nonsense, the listing was american. here's another one for 20$ shipping included

https://www.amazon.com/Transformers-Rob ... =windblade?tag=seibertron07-20&

So now its your turn please show me a listing of Adventure Windblade for 20$ shipping included

Woah dude, chill; I get what you're saying but there's no need.

Kurona wrote:Woah dude, chill; I get what you're saying but there's no need.

I hate misinformation more than you do Kurona.

william-james88 wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:That's way more than retail. First, it's coming from Canada, second, it's sold by a third party seller. I do monitor the prices on figures, but only in the US, and I assure you unless it's sold by Amazon, TRU, Target, or Walmart; Windblade is going for roughly the same amount as the Adventure version.

for ****'s sake chuck, just do some research before you post nonsense, the listing was american. it just sold though, so here's another one for 20$ shipping included

https://www.amazon.com/Transformers-Rob ... =windblade?tag=seibertron07-20&

So now its your turn please show me a listing of Adventure Windblade for 20$ shipping included

Calm down now William, there's no need to loose it. First, you didn't post a listing, you posted a picture to a listing, and clearly in the pic, it says Canadian shipping. So since I know how much Windblade is going for on Amazon US, I just assumed it was an Amazon Canada listing. I'm sorry if I'm upsetting you but I've been around a lot longer than you and know what's up.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:That's way more than retail. First, it's coming from Canada, second, it's sold by a third party seller. I do monitor the prices on figures, but only in the US, and I assure you unless it's sold by Amazon, TRU, Target, or Walmart; Windblade is going for roughly the same amount as the Adventure version.

for ****'s sake chuck, just do some research before you post nonsense, the listing was american. it just sold though, so here's another one for 20$ shipping included

https://www.amazon.com/Transformers-Rob ... =windblade?tag=seibertron07-20&

So now its your turn please show me a listing of Adventure Windblade for 20$ shipping included

Calm down now William, there's no need to loose it. First, you didn't post a listing, you posted a picture to a listing, and clearly in the pic, it says Canadian shipping. So since I know how much Windblade is going for on Amazon US, I just assumed it was an Amazon Canada listing. I'm sorry if I'm upsetting you but I've been around a lot longer than you and know what's up.

Firstly, the pic shows how much it costs to import to Canada. So obviously it can't be a Canadian listing. But that's beside the point.

You said you know what you are talking about and yet you still haven't shown me an adventure windblade at the same price shipped as the Hasbro one I showed. You haven't shown any evidence to your claims. Where is there an adventure windblade for 20$ shipped?

Last time I checked I couldn't find a Takara Windblade, and most of the Hasbro ones I've seen go for close to $30-$35 shipped. Now I know Amazon last week had some RID ones but those are gone.

Look I think we're getting worked up over nothing and should stop before one of us takes a step we can't back away from

Mama Kurona, why are daddy and daddy arguing?

#BreakingTensionOnTwoOfMyFavoritePeopleHere

As far as the RiD version of Windblade, I got her as an add-on to my expensive SDCC Brainwave figure (yeah, me too). And while I was initially happy, I am finding less and less to enjoy about her. Sure, the Generations was a tabbing mess in alt mode, and would tip over in bot mode if my cat sneezed (and I don't even have a cat, so what's up with that?) but overall, I like the look of Generations version more than RiD. For one thing, in alt mode I have one wing that has a tendency to pop up and not sit well against the shoulder pad. I blame that shoulder pad, really...

Agamemnon wrote:Mama Kurona, why are daddy and daddy arguing?

#BreakingTensionOnTwoOfMyFavoritePeopleHere

As far as the RiD version of Windblade, I got her as an add-on to my expensive SDCC Brainwave figure (yeah, me too). And while I was initially happy, I am finding less and less to enjoy about her. Sure, the Generations was a tabbing mess in alt mode, and would tip over in bot mode if my cat sneezed (and I don't even have a cat, so what's up with that?) but overall, I like the look of Generations version more than RiD. For one thing, in alt mode I have one wing that has a tendency to pop up and not sit well against the shoulder pad. I blame that shoulder pad, really...

You'll understand when you're older, son

Hmm, really? I was recently considering the SDCC set due to price drops and was being eased on the idea due to Windblade being a decent figure and the colour scheme looking nice even if it's not representative of anything... but that's a bit of a bummer.

Kurona wrote:

Agamemnon wrote:Mama Kurona, why are daddy and daddy arguing?

#BreakingTensionOnTwoOfMyFavoritePeopleHere

As far as the RiD version of Windblade, I got her as an add-on to my expensive SDCC Brainwave figure (yeah, me too). And while I was initially happy, I am finding less and less to enjoy about her. Sure, the Generations was a tabbing mess in alt mode, and would tip over in bot mode if my cat sneezed (and I don't even have a cat, so what's up with that?) but overall, I like the look of Generations version more than RiD. For one thing, in alt mode I have one wing that has a tendency to pop up and not sit well against the shoulder pad. I blame that shoulder pad, really...

You'll understand when you're older, son

Hmm, really? I was recently considering the SDCC set due to price drops and was being eased on the idea due to Windblade being a decent figure and the colour scheme looking nice even if it's not representative of anything... but that's a bit of a bummer.

If it helps mine is ok, everything thing is solid in jet mold.

My problem with the jet mode is more the aesthetics. Its not sleek and quite the chubby plane. Plus the hands are visible. No gap though, so each has their pros and cons.

Meanwhile, to put the whole thing to rest and trying to steer back on topic, Hasbro Windblade, Power Surge Prime, and Scorponok are now up at Hasbro Toy Shop for $14.99 a pop, which combined with the $10 off $40 or more, would get you all 3 at an average of $12 a pop with free shipping if you bought all 3.

In the meantime, I have yet to see a TAV Windblade for cheaper than $35, which for me is too much for a deluxe. I did it once, and that will be the last for a long time. But it was worth it since that Supreme Bee is awesome.

Speaking of surpreme: it would be pretty cool to get a Steeljaw Supreme and a Starscream supreme