In-Hand Images - Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Menasor

he looks lame...

Alright! Now all those times Drag Strip was all, "oh ya,wait til my boys get here", is starting to ring in the Arialbots heads. Get your gloves and your boots on Silverbolt, cause it's on!

*happy dance*

I really want one of these combiners in hand NOW! I need money, quick!

His chest is way too wide.

I wonder if it is possible to turn the combined head around, the waist and flip the Motormaster fists around and actually use tis back as his chest. That might look better.

Menasor looks okay, not suprion fantastic but okay. He will still be mine.. Then I'll have defensor and Superion rip him apart

Cobotron wrote:Alright! Now all those times Drag Strip was all, "oh ya,wait til my boys get here", is starting to ring in the Arialbots heads. Get your gloves and your boots on Silverbolt, cause it's on!

Doesnt he say that all the time, him being a formula one car and all.

DMSL wrote:His chest is way too wide.

I wonder if it is possible to turn the combined head around, the waist and flip the Motormaster fists around and actually use tis back as his chest. That might look better.

It's not possible.

Looking at Breakdown's leg mode, it looks like you *might* be able to flip his bonnet section about so it looks more like Offroad's...

Noideaforaname wrote:I wonder how much trust you can earn amongst the Stunticons.

"We think you're less of a skidplate than Motormaster is" would probably be as far as it goes.

...Not that they'd say that in front of Motormaster.

prjkt wrote:Looking at Breakdown's leg mode, it looks like you *might* be able to flip his bonnet section about so it looks more like Offroad's...

I dont think so because the leg modes look just like the back of the robot modes (with breakdown's chest plate flipped on the other side).

might display them individually. the combined mode is not the best looking thing ever.

I'd really be curious to see a picture of what Menasor looks like with the chest open but no Blackjack.

Nemesis Primal wrote:I'd really be curious to see a picture of what Menasor looks like with the chest open but no Blackjack.

Not far off this,

Mr O wrote:

Nemesis Primal wrote:I'd really be curious to see a picture of what Menasor looks like with the chest open but no Blackjack.

Not far off this,

Prefer the chest closed, but the legs are posed so much bettet here. Makes him look less squat.

ZeroWolf wrote:Menasor looks okay, not suprion fantastic but okay. He will still be mine.. Then I'll have defensor and Superion rip him apart

Then Devastator steps on both of them turds. The end.

I'm hoping someone will make connectors that will allow the CW limbs to be attached to the TFC torso bots. That'll give a better proportioned gestalt with the full scramble city gimmick.

Syn_13 wrote:

Mr O wrote:

Nemesis Primal wrote:I'd really be curious to see a picture of what Menasor looks like with the chest open but no Blackjack.

Not far off this,

Prefer the chest closed, but the legs are posed so much bettet here. Makes him look less squat.

Agreed about the legs, so much better

he looks really good in hand. these pics are fabulous.

Mr O wrote:

Nemesis Primal wrote:I'd really be curious to see a picture of what Menasor looks like with the chest open but no Blackjack.

Not far off this,

Thank you.

Color me in the boat that thinks Menasor might look better turned around. I don't know why it couldn't be done, unless the head doesn't turn 360º and the hand/feet only fit one direction.
My favorite is with Skywarp as the chest, for no reason beside it looks cool.
Jets are not that small!
It's just a shame that the Skywarp chest configuration was not planned for evidenced by appearing to break SW's hands.

I don't mind the chest being so wide. Gives the arms a good amount of clearance. Plus he's supposed to look brutish.

When are these guys coming out? WHEN!

RiddlerJ wrote:I don't mind the chest being so wide. Gives the arms a good amount of clearance. Plus he's supposed to look brutish.

However, it also gives the impression of his head being too small for its body.

RiddlerJ wrote:I don't mind the chest being so wide. Gives the arms a good amount of clearance. Plus he's supposed to look brutish.

When are these guys coming out? WHEN!

Nooooo! According to the analogy of that picture, we will never get a a complete Menasor and Offroad will get killed on his return to his home planet.

I'll definitely be using Offroad as Ruckus.

He's the only one I'll get. I'm more than happy with Fansproject Menasor.

chest looks better closed

Motormaster should be able to turn around, as Optimus Prime can! He won't have that useless waist guard though.

Mindmaster wrote:

DMSL wrote:His chest is way too wide.

I wonder if it is possible to turn the combined head around, the waist and flip the Motormaster fists around and actually use tis back as his chest. That might look better.

It's not possible.

I wouldn't say it's not possible, though I do not have Motormaster in hand yet. Going off the Prime mold, I think it is possible. I just don't like that it looks even more ape-ish than before. Here are some pics...


Looks pretty good straight on, in my opinion. However...


The arms sit way forward with the chest set well back. I do not think this is a good look. Also, the codpiece will now be a buttflap. Here's the more official way, I think, with chest closed:


The legs are far apart, and the torso looks really short. I like the following configuration a little more, though it is far less stable...



He especially has a tendency to lean forward as some of the thigh pegging is not taking place. Still, I think it is a far better look. Based on some of the pics of Menasor I have seen, I wonder if there is a slightly different thigh pegging scheme...

[Edit] And albnok posted while I was putting this together. Ninja'd!

I just realised that prime with his chest closed reminds me of war for cybertron's primes alt mode...

Finally... FINALLY!!

After waiting for so many years and after seeing too many awesome Transformers toy lines not coming to the Netherlands or the continent of Europe at all, I've now spotted several Combiner Wars figs (Voyager, Deluxe AND Legends classes) in one of the toy stores (Intertoys, but ToyChamp has them on their website as well) here in the Netherlands. Several toy stores in France (Joué Club and King Jouet) also have posted the first wave of CW on their websites.

This is really great news for us Dutchies (and other Europeans I think as well ). Well, at least for me it is, since I don't have to buy everything on webshops now and can go to the local toy stores to get some (which is more fun in my opinion).

Posted this all here, since the sightings section doesn't include the major toy stores of the Netherlands.

MarkNL wrote:Finally... FINALLY!!

After waiting for so many years and after seeing too many awesome Transformers toy lines not coming to the Netherlands or the continent of Europe at all, I've now spotted several Combiner Wars figs (Voyager, Deluxe AND Legends classes) in one of the toy stores (Intertoys, but ToyChamp has them on their website as well) here in the Netherlands. Several toy stores in France (Joué Club and King Jouet) also have posted the first wave of CW on their websites.

This is really great news for us Dutchies (and other Europeans I think as well ). Well, at least for me it is, since I don't have to buy everything on webshops now and can go to the local toy stores to get some (which is more fun in my opinion).

Posted this all here, since the sightings section doesn't include the major toy stores of the Netherlands.

Snotverdorie!

Which ones?!

MarkNL wrote:Finally... FINALLY!!

After waiting for so many years and after seeing too many awesome Transformers toy lines not coming to the Netherlands or the continent of Europe at all, I've now spotted several Combiner Wars figs (Voyager, Deluxe AND Legends classes) in one of the toy stores (Intertoys, but ToyChamp has them on their website as well) here in the Netherlands. Several toy stores in France (Joué Club and King Jouet) also have posted the first wave of CW on their websites.

This is really great news for us Dutchies (and other Europeans I think as well ). Well, at least for me it is, since I don't have to buy everything on webshops now and can go to the local toy stores to get some (which is more fun in my opinion).

Posted this all here, since the sightings section doesn't include the major toy stores of the Netherlands.

You can always post it in a sighting topic like "Netherlands TF Sightings" if that doesnt exist yet. That's how Canada does it.

ZeroWolf wrote:I just realised that prime with his chest closed reminds me of war for cybertron's primes alt mode...

I just thought the same thing when I saw that pic. That could lead to some interesting customs. I can imagine someone doing a WFC style combiner team now.

william-james88 wrote:

MarkNL wrote:Finally... FINALLY!!

After waiting for so many years and after seeing too many awesome Transformers toy lines not coming to the Netherlands or the continent of Europe at all, I've now spotted several Combiner Wars figs (Voyager, Deluxe AND Legends classes) in one of the toy stores (Intertoys, but ToyChamp has them on their website as well) here in the Netherlands. Several toy stores in France (Joué Club and King Jouet) also have posted the first wave of CW on their websites.

This is really great news for us Dutchies (and other Europeans I think as well ). Well, at least for me it is, since I don't have to buy everything on webshops now and can go to the local toy stores to get some (which is more fun in my opinion).

Posted this all here, since the sightings section doesn't include the major toy stores of the Netherlands.

You can always post it in a sighting topic like "Netherlands TF Sightings" if that doesnt exist yet. That's how Canada does it.

Good idea. I'll do that.

RhA, I'll post in that new topic about what I've found.

Mark: dutch-transformers-sightings-t100769.php

wilcosu35 wrote:Mark: dutch-transformers-sightings-t100769.php

Yea, just saw it in the forums section and thought about posting it in there. Thanks anyways!

MarkNL wrote:

wilcosu35 wrote:Mark: dutch-transformers-sightings-t100769.php

Yea, just saw it in the forums section and thought about posting it in there. Thanks anyways!

Thank you kindly.

I know this is likely an unpopular opinion, but I actually kinda think Menasor's proportions look good, however I think I'm gonna have to get Blackjack.

All you art lovers out there a about to get a second dose from Marcelo Matere as he shows off the line art for Combiner Wars Superion! Others noted that his previously revealed Devastator art was more G1 inspired rather than Combiner Wars, but you'll see with Superion's Alpha Bravo leg that he's captured the true spirit of the line. See what Marcelo Matere has to say about his piece:

Combiner Wars Superion pencils artwork - 2014 - Since the final image was show, now I'm allowed to post this image. The studio that does the color for the Transformers Legends game worked on the colors for the final illustration ! They did a great job!

But enough talk, you want to see the art. Keep scrolling to see it, and visit Seibertron.com for all your Transformers News!

Nice art work! Looks pretty faithful to the figure.

Menasor looks a lot better when the legs are displayed as below. Now just a case of whether I want him to have the chest open, or closed. I'm thinking closed at the moment, looks a lot less top heavy. Would like to see another pic of him like this with Blackjack in there, but so far I've not been keen on how Blackjack looks sitting in there.

Having the surprising quality and relative sturdiness of a mostly completed Superion in my hands only makes me even angrier about the piece of crap that was FOC Bruticus. On the other hand, it does make me look forward to the rest of this line.

Valandar wrote:Having the surprising quality and relative sturdiness of a mostly completed Superion in my hands only makes me even angrier about the piece of crap that was FOC Bruticus. On the other hand, it does make me look forward to the rest of this line.

The thing is with FoC Bruticus is that the figure was just created as an individual set and not part of a toyline devoted to combiners. They got it out there off the back of the video games and in some ways was a good way to test the water at how well Generations combiners would be received.

Combiner Wars is their new pet project, it's a serious toyline that they know they have to get right. It's a big risk because if people are burnt by Superion, like they were with Bruticus, they won't be successful. This is why I think Superion has been released first, it's the best looking. Like releasing the opening track of an album as a single, which happens often.

I still like my Bruticus, he really kickstarted me into collecting after a trip to Japan where I picked up the Takara versions, so he's got a place in my heart. On his own he has some big flaws, but I think the Third Party upgrades help a little. He's a lot better with the Boosticus set, and looks good with a Voyager torso from Microblaze's Notslaught (although apparently that makes him a fair bit bigger than Superion). I've not invested in the latter as I think the Boosticus set looks good enough for what isn't the best of figures already.

I'm not sure whether I'll pick up the CW Bruticus, because I actually like the Cybertronian aesthetic of FoC Bruticus, but if it's as good as the rest of this line has been so far, I may just have to.

Damn! Once again Marcelo knocks it outta the park. Umm...Leader Class Ultra Magnus next please ?

Love that picture, like it better than the devy one actually.

Syn_13 wrote:Nice art work! Looks pretty faithful to the figure.

Menasor looks a lot better when the legs are displayed as below. Now just a case of whether I want him to have the chest open, or closed. I'm thinking closed at the moment, looks a lot less top heavy. Would like to see another pic of him like this with Blackjack in there, but so far I've not been keen on how Blackjack looks sitting in there.

Finally a good picture of menasor!!!, looks a lot better when the legs are mistransformed

Curious as to where the art work is to be used, since Superion doesn't have a box. Takara's set perhaps? Or is it promo art for something else?

hinomars19 wrote:Curious as to where the art work is to be used, since Superion doesn't have a box. Takara's set perhaps? Or is it promo art for something else?

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I saw someone started this the other day, but didn't finish:

G1 Silverbolt - Aérospatiale-BAC Concorde Passenger Jet
Maximum speed: ≈1,354 mph, 2,179 km/h, 1,176 knots (Mach 2.04) at cruise altitude
Service ceiling: 60,000 ft (18,300 m)

G1 Skydive - General Dynamics F-16 Fighting Falcon
High Altitude: 1,320 mph, 2,120 km/h (Mach 2) clean configuration
Low Altitude: 915 mph, 1,470 km/h (Mach 1.2)
Service ceiling: 50,000+ ft[2] (15,240+ m)

G1 Air-Raid - McDonnell Douglas F-15 Eagle
High altitude: 1,650+ mph, 2,665+ km/h (Mach 2.5+)
Low altitude: 900 mph, 1,450 km/h (Mach 1.2)
Service ceiling: 65,000 ft (20,000 m)

G1 Fireflight - McDonnell Douglas F-4 Phantom II
Maximum speed: 1,472 mph, 2,370 km/h (Mach 2.23) at 40,000 ft (12,190 m)

G1 Slingshot - British Aerospace Sea Harrier FA2
Maximum speed: 735 mph, 1,182 km/h (Mach 0.96?)
Service ceiling: 51,000 ft (16,000 m)

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CW Silverbolt - Modified Aérospatiale-BAC Concorde Passenger Jet(?)
Maximum speed: ≈1,354 mph, 2,179 km/h, 1,176 knots (Mach 2.04) at cruise altitude
Service ceiling: 60,000 ft (18,300 m)

CW Skydive - McDonnell Douglas F/A-18 Hornet (Hybrid with General Dynamics F-16 Fighting Falcon)
High Altitude (Falcon): 1,320 mph, 2,120 km/h (Mach 2)
Low altitude (Hornet): 915 mph, 1,473 km/h (Mach 1.2)
Service ceiling (Falcon): 50,000+ ft (15,240+ m)

CW Air-Raid - Grumman F-14 Tomcat (Hybrid with McDonnell Douglas F/A-18 Hornet)
High altitude (Tomcat): 1,544 mph, 2,485 km/h (Mach 2.34)
Low altitude (Hornet): 915 mph, 1,473 km/h (Mach 1.2)
Service ceiling (Tomcat): 50,000+ ft (15,200 m)

CW Firefly - McDonnell Douglas AV-8B Harrier II Plus
Maximum speed: 673 mph, 1,083 km/h (Mach 0.9)

CW Slingshot - McDonnell Douglas AV-8B Harrier II Plus
Maximum speed: 673 mph, 1,083 km/h (Mach 0.9)

CW Alpha Bravo - Modified Aerospatiale Eurocopter AS365 Dauphin - twin engines
Maximum speed: 190 mph; 306 km/h
Service ceiling: 5,865 m (19,242 ft)

CW Blades - Modified Aerospatiale Eurocopter HH-65 Dolphin (SA366 G1)
Maximum speed: 201 mph; 324 km/h
Service ceiling: 5,486 m (17,999 ft)

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So, ranked for speed:

G1 Air-Raid - 1,650+ mph, 2,665+ km/h

CW Air-Raid - 1,544 mph, 2,485 km/h

G1 Fireflight - 1,472 mph, 2,370 km/h

G1 Silverbolt - ≈1,354 mph, 2,179 km/h

CW Silverbolt - ≈1,354 mph, 2,179 km/h

G1 Skydive - 1,320 mph, 2,120 km/h

CW Skydive - 1,320 mph, 2,120 km/h

G1 Slingshot - 735 mph, 1,182 km/h

CW Firefly - 673 mph, 1,083 km/h

CW Slingshot - 673 mph, 1,083 km/h

CW Blades - 201 mph; 324 km/h

CW Alpha Bravo - 190 mph; 306 km/h


So, unfortunately, without some sort of teleportation system, Alpha Bravo does get left behind, even by his fellow new Aerialbot Powerglide, who tops out at 439mph (unarmed). Of course, everyone gets ditched by Blastoff who orbits at 17,180 mph (27,650 km/h), but I don't thing that really counts.

Va'al wrote:

hinomars19 wrote:Curious as to where the art work is to be used, since Superion doesn't have a box. Takara's set perhaps? Or is it promo art for something else?

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OOh, nifty! Cheers Va'al

Just picked up Legends Windcharger today. That completes wave 1 for me.
But my random thought of the day is, This opalescent red plastic that he is cast in is gorgeous, just GORGEOUS!