In-Hand Images - Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Thundercracker
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Via weibo user 板凳上的飞机, we have a small selection of images showing off a comparison between the upcoming Generations Combiner Wars Leader class Thundercracker versus its predecessor Legends class figure. As a reminder, this a retool and redeco of the first Generations Leader figure Jetfire - check out below how it turned out!
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Re: In-Hand Images - Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Thundercracker (1661805)
Posted by MartianSpyGirl1996 on March 11th, 2015 @ 1:26pm CDT
Posted by MartianSpyGirl1996 on March 11th, 2015 @ 1:26pm CDT
Does anybody else have Seeker Burnout besides me?
Re: In-Hand Images - Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Thundercracker (1661806)
Posted by ScottyP on March 11th, 2015 @ 1:30pm CDT
I do on the Masterpiece mold, yeah. This one I'd care less about if Thundercracker weren't such a great character in IDW right now.
Posted by ScottyP on March 11th, 2015 @ 1:30pm CDT
MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:Does anybody else have Seeker Burnout besides me?
I do on the Masterpiece mold, yeah. This one I'd care less about if Thundercracker weren't such a great character in IDW right now.
Re: In-Hand Images - Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Thundercracker (1661810)
Posted by MartianSpyGirl1996 on March 11th, 2015 @ 1:41pm CDT
I’m so glad the TCC FINALLY retired the Classics mold, good grief... but now with the legends mold it’s like ugh, can we have something else now that’s not so repetitive please? JMO
Posted by MartianSpyGirl1996 on March 11th, 2015 @ 1:41pm CDT
ScottyP wrote:MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:Does anybody else have Seeker Burnout besides me?
I do on the Masterpiece mold, yeah. This one I'd care less about if Thundercracker weren't such a great character in IDW right now.
I’m so glad the TCC FINALLY retired the Classics mold, good grief... but now with the legends mold it’s like ugh, can we have something else now that’s not so repetitive please? JMO
Re: In-Hand Images - Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Thundercracker (1661812)
Posted by Sabrblade on March 11th, 2015 @ 1:42pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on March 11th, 2015 @ 1:42pm CDT
Amen. If not for this being Thundercracker and in his 2009 ongoing body, this toy hold far less appeal to me.ScottyP wrote:MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:Does anybody else have Seeker Burnout besides me?
I do on the Masterpiece mold, yeah. This one I'd care less about if Thundercracker weren't such a great character in IDW right now.
Re: In-Hand Images - Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Thundercracker (1661824)
Posted by Mindmaster on March 11th, 2015 @ 2:03pm CDT
Posted by Mindmaster on March 11th, 2015 @ 2:03pm CDT
so is it just me, or is that definitely a 5mm port smack dab in his forehead? Implication that Leader Starscream will have a crown?
Re: In-Hand Images - Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Thundercracker (1661825)
Posted by Flashwave on March 11th, 2015 @ 2:04pm CDT
Posted by Flashwave on March 11th, 2015 @ 2:04pm CDT
I find myself torn: The Seekers were always supposed to be Army-Builders, and I like having them, but I never could sign up for TFSS3, and now while I want NaCelle for the collection, its a collection that's sitting in a storage unit, and I don't forsee dragging out for the limited space I have right now. And of an alt mode that's 3 generations behind now. I wouldn't mind the Seeker 6 (or the main 3 at least) getting overdone in F22s,
Re: In-Hand Images - Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Thundercracker (1661827)
Posted by durroth on March 11th, 2015 @ 2:07pm CDT
I'm not familiar with him. Where did you buy him? Cuz if there's a seeker I don't have, damnit I want it.
Posted by durroth on March 11th, 2015 @ 2:07pm CDT
MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:Does anybody else have Seeker Burnout besides me?
I'm not familiar with him. Where did you buy him? Cuz if there's a seeker I don't have, damnit I want it.
Re: In-Hand Images - Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Thundercracker (1661834)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on March 11th, 2015 @ 2:21pm CDT
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on March 11th, 2015 @ 2:21pm CDT
No comments on the itty-bitty Scourge?
Re: In-Hand Images - Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Thundercracker (1661835)
Posted by Flashwave on March 11th, 2015 @ 2:22pm CDT
Great, now I want TFCC to come out with a seeker who's upset and dismissive because he's the last of a bodytype before the chassis was replaced. He was too early to get the new body, and too late to be anything but the shadow cast by Greater Bots. Like Acid Storm, and Thundercracker.
Brunout: The always forgotten last run
Posted by Flashwave on March 11th, 2015 @ 2:22pm CDT
durroth wrote:MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:Does anybody else have Seeker Burnout besides me?
I'm not familiar with him. Where did you buy him? Cuz if there's a seeker I don't have, damnit I want it.
Great, now I want TFCC to come out with a seeker who's upset and dismissive because he's the last of a bodytype before the chassis was replaced. He was too early to get the new body, and too late to be anything but the shadow cast by Greater Bots. Like Acid Storm, and Thundercracker.
Brunout: The always forgotten last run
Re: In-Hand Images - Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Thundercracker (1661838)
Posted by Sabrblade on March 11th, 2015 @ 2:23pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on March 11th, 2015 @ 2:23pm CDT
I just thought it was a 3rd party toy.JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:No comments on the itty-bitty Scourge?
Re: In-Hand Images - Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Thundercracker (1661839)
Posted by Mindmaster on March 11th, 2015 @ 2:24pm CDT
I think that's the third-party Legends-scaled Scourge. Who's making them, I don't remember, but I think they're also doing equally-sized versions of Cyclonus and Galvatron, who definitely takes his cues from Mania King.
Posted by Mindmaster on March 11th, 2015 @ 2:24pm CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:No comments on the itty-bitty Scourge?
I think that's the third-party Legends-scaled Scourge. Who's making them, I don't remember, but I think they're also doing equally-sized versions of Cyclonus and Galvatron, who definitely takes his cues from Mania King.
Re: In-Hand Images - Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Thundercracker (1661840)
Posted by Cobotron on March 11th, 2015 @ 2:26pm CDT
Posted by Cobotron on March 11th, 2015 @ 2:26pm CDT
I don't know if it's 5mm, but it sure looks like a port. Good eye MM.Mindmaster wrote:so is it just me, or is that definitely a 5mm port smack dab in his forehead? Implication that Leader Starscream will have a crown?
Re: In-Hand Images - Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Thundercracker (1661846)
Posted by MartianSpyGirl1996 on March 11th, 2015 @ 2:31pm CDT
Like Flamewar, that would be hilarious
Posted by MartianSpyGirl1996 on March 11th, 2015 @ 2:31pm CDT
Flashwave wrote:durroth wrote:MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:Does anybody else have Seeker Burnout besides me?
I'm not familiar with him. Where did you buy him? Cuz if there's a seeker I don't have, damnit I want it.
Great, now I want TFCC to come out with a seeker who's upset and dismissive because he's the last of a bodytype before the chassis was replaced. He was too early to get the new body, and too late to be anything but the shadow cast by Greater Bots. Like Acid Storm, and Thundercracker.
Brunout: The always forgotten last run
Like Flamewar, that would be hilarious
Re: In-Hand Images - Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Thundercracker (1661847)
Posted by durroth on March 11th, 2015 @ 2:32pm CDT
Posted by durroth on March 11th, 2015 @ 2:32pm CDT
I dunno, I *think* it might be the "gem" molded into his head that they had painted red on the hand painted prototypes.
Re: In-Hand Images - Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Thundercracker (1661876)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on March 11th, 2015 @ 3:56pm CDT
The vehicle mode looks great, but the bot mode is lacking. It would have been nice to put some paint apps on the underside of the wings, for one. That wouldn't ruin the look of the alt mode at all. Heck, if it's too hard to fill in all of that gridwork with red paint, they could have gone for the G1 red and silver stripes on the outer wings instead. The thrusters on the back could have painted gray/silver to better approximate the shoulder intakes in bot mode, which are unfortunately missing. That would change up the vehicle mode a bit, since the thrusters are black, but it would have been an acceptable compromise to me. Finally, a retool for the null rays would have been nice. They look a little clunky as is. Maybe they couldn't do this for logistical reasons, but it would have made more sense to me to cut out the excess guns to save on plastic costs and use the savings for a more detailed paint deco. Not bad, but far from perfect.
Posted by Wolfman Jake on March 11th, 2015 @ 3:56pm CDT
Va'al wrote:Via weibo user 板凳上的飞机, we have a small selection of images showing off a comparison between the upcoming Generations Combiner Wars Leader class Thundercracker versus its predecessor Legends class figure. As a reminder, this a retool and redeco of the first Generations Leader figure Jetfire - check out below how it turned out!
The vehicle mode looks great, but the bot mode is lacking. It would have been nice to put some paint apps on the underside of the wings, for one. That wouldn't ruin the look of the alt mode at all. Heck, if it's too hard to fill in all of that gridwork with red paint, they could have gone for the G1 red and silver stripes on the outer wings instead. The thrusters on the back could have painted gray/silver to better approximate the shoulder intakes in bot mode, which are unfortunately missing. That would change up the vehicle mode a bit, since the thrusters are black, but it would have been an acceptable compromise to me. Finally, a retool for the null rays would have been nice. They look a little clunky as is. Maybe they couldn't do this for logistical reasons, but it would have made more sense to me to cut out the excess guns to save on plastic costs and use the savings for a more detailed paint deco. Not bad, but far from perfect.
Re: In-Hand Images - Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Thundercracker (1661885)
Posted by Burn on March 11th, 2015 @ 4:18pm CDT
Posted by Burn on March 11th, 2015 @ 4:18pm CDT
Works so much better as Thundercracker than Jetfire. Tempted to off-load Jetfire and get Thundercracker to represent the mold in the collection.
Re: In-Hand Images - Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Thundercracker (1661912)
Posted by Bounti76 on March 11th, 2015 @ 5:54pm CDT
Posted by Bounti76 on March 11th, 2015 @ 5:54pm CDT
I can't help seeing an angry owl every time I look at Thundercracker's chest.
Re: In-Hand Images - Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Thundercracker (1661915)
Posted by Triptykon on March 11th, 2015 @ 5:59pm CDT
Posted by Triptykon on March 11th, 2015 @ 5:59pm CDT
I'll be "seeking" this one out for sure. Also need that Galvie
Re: In-Hand Images - Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Thundercracker (1661917)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on March 11th, 2015 @ 6:09pm CDT
Posted by Rodimus Prime on March 11th, 2015 @ 6:09pm CDT
That would be Galvatron from the Energon line. Available on eBay for a good chunk of change.Triptykon wrote:I'll be "seeking" this one out for sure. Also need that Galvie
Re: In-Hand Images - Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Thundercracker (1661928)
Posted by megatronus on March 11th, 2015 @ 7:07pm CDT
Posted by megatronus on March 11th, 2015 @ 7:07pm CDT
This needs to wait - first I need both Leader Megatrons.
Also... still wish this was voyager sized, the upcoming voyager seeker mold notwithstanding.
Also... still wish this was voyager sized, the upcoming voyager seeker mold notwithstanding.
Re: In-Hand Images - Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Thundercracker (1661932)
Posted by durroth on March 11th, 2015 @ 7:15pm CDT
Posted by durroth on March 11th, 2015 @ 7:15pm CDT
what upcoming voyager seeker mold?
Re: In-Hand Images - Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Thundercracker (1661935)
Posted by megatronus on March 11th, 2015 @ 7:18pm CDT
http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/voyager-starscream-prototype-possible-generations-combiner-wars-figure/32379/
Posted by megatronus on March 11th, 2015 @ 7:18pm CDT
durroth wrote:what upcoming voyager seeker mold?
http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/voyager-starscream-prototype-possible-generations-combiner-wars-figure/32379/
Re: In-Hand Images - Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Thundercracker (1661940)
Posted by Cobotron on March 11th, 2015 @ 7:20pm CDT
Posted by Cobotron on March 11th, 2015 @ 7:20pm CDT
I hate to burst your bubble Mega-T, but that's an abandoned concept from a few years ago. 
Re: In-Hand Images - Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Thundercracker (1661943)
Posted by durroth on March 11th, 2015 @ 7:25pm CDT
Posted by durroth on March 11th, 2015 @ 7:25pm CDT
yep. Unfortunately we don't get a new seeker mold yet. I mean, we're all still kinda recovering from the last one...
Re: In-Hand Images - Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Thundercracker (1661955)
Posted by Noideaforaname on March 11th, 2015 @ 8:23pm CDT
Kinda. I mean, we've been getting a lot of Seeker molds and a lot of uses from each one (save the Armada version) and I'm sort of glad that Voyager didn't pan out because of all that.... but at the same time I'd happily buy more Kreon Seekers (those're the only ones I collect anyways).
Posted by Noideaforaname on March 11th, 2015 @ 8:23pm CDT
MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:Does anybody else have Seeker Burnout besides me?
Kinda. I mean, we've been getting a lot of Seeker molds and a lot of uses from each one (save the Armada version) and I'm sort of glad that Voyager didn't pan out because of all that.... but at the same time I'd happily buy more Kreon Seekers (those're the only ones I collect anyways).
Re: In-Hand Images - Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Thundercracker (1661971)
Posted by megatronus on March 11th, 2015 @ 9:10pm CDT
Well then. That's unwelcome news. Sigh.
Posted by megatronus on March 11th, 2015 @ 9:10pm CDT
Cobotron wrote:I hate to burst your bubble Mega-T, but that's an abandoned concept from a few years ago.
durroth wrote:yep. Unfortunately we don't get a new seeker mold yet. I mean, we're all still kinda recovering from the last one...
Well then. That's unwelcome news. Sigh.
Re: In-Hand Images - Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Thundercracker (1661977)
Posted by shajaki on March 11th, 2015 @ 9:22pm CDT
Posted by shajaki on March 11th, 2015 @ 9:22pm CDT
Re: In-Hand Images - Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Thundercracker (1661978)
Posted by megatronus on March 11th, 2015 @ 9:23pm CDT
Didn't they announce Zoolander 2 recently?
Posted by megatronus on March 11th, 2015 @ 9:23pm CDT
shajaki wrote:
Didn't they announce Zoolander 2 recently?
Re: In-Hand Images - Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Thundercracker (1661983)
Posted by MartianSpyGirl1996 on March 11th, 2015 @ 9:35pm CDT
Yeah, yesterday. Hoping Milla Jovovich makes a return
Posted by MartianSpyGirl1996 on March 11th, 2015 @ 9:35pm CDT
megatronus wrote:shajaki wrote:
Didn't they announce Zoolander 2 recently?
Yeah, yesterday. Hoping Milla Jovovich makes a return
Re: In-Hand Images - Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Thundercracker (1661994)
Posted by shajaki on March 11th, 2015 @ 10:05pm CDT
Posted by shajaki on March 11th, 2015 @ 10:05pm CDT
megatronus wrote:shajaki wrote:
Didn't they announce Zoolander 2 recently?
Re: In-Hand Images - Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Thundercracker (1661997)
Posted by MartianSpyGirl1996 on March 11th, 2015 @ 10:18pm CDT
Lol yeah
Posted by MartianSpyGirl1996 on March 11th, 2015 @ 10:18pm CDT
shajaki wrote:
Lol yeah
Re: In-Hand Images - Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Thundercracker (1662019)
Posted by Rated X on March 11th, 2015 @ 11:16pm CDT
Posted by Rated X on March 11th, 2015 @ 11:16pm CDT
Theres nothing thundercracker about this mold, starting with the fake chest cockpit. Even with all the retooling you still got a blue jetfire with a seeker head. And the pointless leader scale that scales with nothing makes it an even bigger joke. MP Hasbrocracker already exists. This thing didn't need to be created.
Re: In-Hand Images - Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Thundercracker (1662028)
Posted by padfoo on March 12th, 2015 @ 12:01am CDT
Posted by padfoo on March 12th, 2015 @ 12:01am CDT
[quote="Va'al"]Via weibo user 板凳上的飞机, we have a small selection of images showing off a comparison between the upcoming Generations Combiner Wars Leader class Thundercracker versus its predecessor Legends class figure. As a reminder, this a retool and redeco of the first Generations Leader figure Jetfire - check out below how it turned out!
I will have both!
I will have both!
Re: In-Hand Images - Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Thundercracker (1662031)
Posted by durroth on March 12th, 2015 @ 12:34am CDT
Posted by durroth on March 12th, 2015 @ 12:34am CDT
third parties need to make a 1/144 scale Buster to fit in his cockpit
Re: In-Hand Images - Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Thundercracker (1662033)
Posted by Flashwave on March 12th, 2015 @ 12:39am CDT
Here you go: (1:160)
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?siteid=0&pub=5574891718&campid=5336631220&customid=&toolid=10001&mkevt=1&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fitm%2Flike%2F3908723367%20...%20%3D82%26chn%3Dps%3C%2Fa%3E%3F
Although actually, The Leader Class figs are not a perfect scale, and I think an HO scale Dog figure would scale very well and be visible enough: (1:87)
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?siteid=0&pub=5574891718&campid=5336631220&customid=&toolid=10001&mkevt=1&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fitm%2Flike%2F3216804929%20...%20%3D82%26chn%3Dps%3C%2Fa%3E%3F
Posted by Flashwave on March 12th, 2015 @ 12:39am CDT
durroth wrote:third parties need to make a 1/144 scale Buster to fit in his cockpit
Here you go: (1:160)
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?siteid=0&pub=5574891718&campid=5336631220&customid=&toolid=10001&mkevt=1&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fitm%2Flike%2F3908723367%20...%20%3D82%26chn%3Dps%3C%2Fa%3E%3F
Although actually, The Leader Class figs are not a perfect scale, and I think an HO scale Dog figure would scale very well and be visible enough: (1:87)
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?siteid=0&pub=5574891718&campid=5336631220&customid=&toolid=10001&mkevt=1&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fitm%2Flike%2F3216804929%20...%20%3D82%26chn%3Dps%3C%2Fa%3E%3F
Re: In-Hand Images - Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Thundercracker (1662046)
Posted by steve2275 on March 12th, 2015 @ 3:07am CDT
Posted by steve2275 on March 12th, 2015 @ 3:07am CDT
Re: In-Hand Images - Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Thundercracker (1662057)
Posted by King Kuuga on March 12th, 2015 @ 4:31am CDT
It's blue, has Thundercracker's color layout, resembles him physically, and it turns into a jet, fake parts or no fake parts. That's pretty Thundercracker if you ask me.
Not that Transformers has ever given a flying flip about scale, but jets are usually way bigger than cars, and a leader Thundercracker is about as close in scale to a deluxe car as we're going to get.
This is a Generations toy aimed at 8-12 year-olds, while MPs are most decidedly NOT any of that. For kids, it's a big simple blue jet transformer, qualities with a lot of appeal. And since they're guaranteed to sell SOME, it's an easy way to get more money off the Jetfire mold. That's why it exists.
Does any toy really "need" to be created? Does fancy jewelry? Do computers? We have certainly created a need for all of these things in our culture, but fundamentally they're all fairly useless. Now, if we accept that we don't need but want Transformers toys, there's definitely some that deserve toys more than others. I'd like a leader Sky Lynx before a leader Thundercracker, personally. But between the ability to sell a popular comic character to collectors, a big blue robot jet to children, and the ease of retooling an existing mold into this shape, I can see why we got this instead of something else. You don't like it personally? That's fine. But don't turn personal disinterest into "it has no right to exist," which is the general implication of your post.
Posted by King Kuuga on March 12th, 2015 @ 4:31am CDT
Rated X wrote:Theres nothing thundercracker about this mold, starting with the fake chest cockpit. Even with all the retooling you still got a blue jetfire with a seeker head.
It's blue, has Thundercracker's color layout, resembles him physically, and it turns into a jet, fake parts or no fake parts. That's pretty Thundercracker if you ask me.
And the pointless leader scale that scales with nothing makes it an even bigger joke.
Not that Transformers has ever given a flying flip about scale, but jets are usually way bigger than cars, and a leader Thundercracker is about as close in scale to a deluxe car as we're going to get.
MP Hasbrocracker already exists.
This is a Generations toy aimed at 8-12 year-olds, while MPs are most decidedly NOT any of that. For kids, it's a big simple blue jet transformer, qualities with a lot of appeal. And since they're guaranteed to sell SOME, it's an easy way to get more money off the Jetfire mold. That's why it exists.
This thing didn't need to be created.
Does any toy really "need" to be created? Does fancy jewelry? Do computers? We have certainly created a need for all of these things in our culture, but fundamentally they're all fairly useless. Now, if we accept that we don't need but want Transformers toys, there's definitely some that deserve toys more than others. I'd like a leader Sky Lynx before a leader Thundercracker, personally. But between the ability to sell a popular comic character to collectors, a big blue robot jet to children, and the ease of retooling an existing mold into this shape, I can see why we got this instead of something else. You don't like it personally? That's fine. But don't turn personal disinterest into "it has no right to exist," which is the general implication of your post.
Re: In-Hand Images - Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Thundercracker (1662059)
Posted by noctorro on March 12th, 2015 @ 4:36am CDT
Posted by noctorro on March 12th, 2015 @ 4:36am CDT
Agree with That Bot ^
I was planning on getting all three Seekers if they made the other 2. But then I saw that yellow prototype Starscream which they may release. So I'll be going for that.
They did a good job in remolding a lot, more than just the head.
I was planning on getting all three Seekers if they made the other 2. But then I saw that yellow prototype Starscream which they may release. So I'll be going for that.
They did a good job in remolding a lot, more than just the head.
Re: In-Hand Images - Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Thundercracker (1662082)
Posted by fenrir72 on March 12th, 2015 @ 8:18am CDT
I'm gonna hate myself in the morning but I'm not too keen with the retool. Maybe an upsized more intricately design from that legends scale. The Jetfire mold should have been left alone.
Though from an economic bottom line view point, maybe Hasbro and Tomy dumped oodles of cash in that mold that they have to squeeze it for all its worth to recoup the investment.
I prefer that other abandoned mold.
Posted by fenrir72 on March 12th, 2015 @ 8:18am CDT
Rated X wrote:Theres nothing thundercracker about this mold, starting with the fake chest cockpit. Even with all the retooling you still got a blue jetfire with a seeker head. And the pointless leader scale that scales with nothing makes it an even bigger joke. MP Hasbrocracker already exists. This thing didn't need to be created.
I'm gonna hate myself in the morning but I'm not too keen with the retool. Maybe an upsized more intricately design from that legends scale. The Jetfire mold should have been left alone.
Though from an economic bottom line view point, maybe Hasbro and Tomy dumped oodles of cash in that mold that they have to squeeze it for all its worth to recoup the investment.
I prefer that other abandoned mold.
Re: In-Hand Images - Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Thundercracker (1662084)
Posted by Sabrblade on March 12th, 2015 @ 8:22am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on March 12th, 2015 @ 8:22am CDT
What they said:noctorro wrote:I was planning on getting all three Seekers if they made the other 2. But then I saw that yellow prototype Starscream which they may release. So I'll be going for that.
Cobotron wrote:that's an abandoned concept from a few years ago.
durroth wrote:yep. Unfortunately we don't get a new seeker mold yet. I mean, we're all still kinda recovering from the last one...
Re: In-Hand Images - Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Thundercracker (1662086)
Posted by MartianSpyGirl1996 on March 12th, 2015 @ 8:25am CDT
I mostly agree, although it’s a spot on seeker, reguardless of the cockpit... I see no Jetfire in this. However, I wish a different figure was given his slot instead... we only get so many leaders a year, and I’m disappointed it was given to Thundercracker as this will be his 6th release in the last 4 years, not including the Prime, Kre-O, and other releases
Posted by MartianSpyGirl1996 on March 12th, 2015 @ 8:25am CDT
Rated X wrote:Theres nothing thundercracker about this mold, starting with the fake chest cockpit. Even with all the retooling you still got a blue jetfire with a seeker head. And the pointless leader scale that scales with nothing makes it an even bigger joke. MP Hasbrocracker already exists. This thing didn't need to be created.
I mostly agree, although it’s a spot on seeker, reguardless of the cockpit... I see no Jetfire in this. However, I wish a different figure was given his slot instead... we only get so many leaders a year, and I’m disappointed it was given to Thundercracker as this will be his 6th release in the last 4 years, not including the Prime, Kre-O, and other releases
Re: In-Hand Images - Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Thundercracker (1662331)
Posted by Emerje on March 13th, 2015 @ 2:47am CDT
Posted by Emerje on March 13th, 2015 @ 2:47am CDT
Would have preferred they remolded him into a cartoon accurate Skyfire, but that's one thing we'll never get unless they make a Masterpiece and they can do a lot more making it into a Seeker. It's not a bad representation of the IDW design, but deluxe would have been better to go with Starscream I think.
Emerje
Emerje
Re: In-Hand Images - Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Thundercracker (1662376)
Posted by prjkt on March 13th, 2015 @ 8:58am CDT
Posted by prjkt on March 13th, 2015 @ 8:58am CDT
well, putting the two Megatrons side by side, the first thing I can say is I want to swap those shin pieces - unpainted grey on silver G1 Megs, and painted the same silver as G1 Megs on Armada Megatron... In fact they're kind of as out of place here as they are on the G1 version. And by G1 version I mean the other 2015 Tank Megatron release. Not the old gunformer.
If I get really bored I might try removing some pins...
Other than that, I really like the colour palette in use, the vibrant purple really contrasts with the muted military green, though I would have like the red pieces to be a little deeper red (similar to G1 Megatron) as they are now, they're an orangey red. However, I don't know the original character design/toy, so this might be the "correct" colour to have used.
Headsculpt is cool, great multi-level detail, face size is a little smaller than G1 Megatron, and a little more "in scale" in my opinion. G1 Megatron's head was just a little too big, by maybe 10-15% to me.
Great release, not worth the $95 I bought G1 Megs from Toyworld at, but for $69 (or $79? I don't remember) I thought I'd give him a shot.
If I get really bored I might try removing some pins...
Other than that, I really like the colour palette in use, the vibrant purple really contrasts with the muted military green, though I would have like the red pieces to be a little deeper red (similar to G1 Megatron) as they are now, they're an orangey red. However, I don't know the original character design/toy, so this might be the "correct" colour to have used.
Headsculpt is cool, great multi-level detail, face size is a little smaller than G1 Megatron, and a little more "in scale" in my opinion. G1 Megatron's head was just a little too big, by maybe 10-15% to me.
Great release, not worth the $95 I bought G1 Megs from Toyworld at, but for $69 (or $79? I don't remember) I thought I'd give him a shot.
Re: In-Hand Images - Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Thundercracker (1662497)
Posted by Optimum Supreme on March 13th, 2015 @ 6:03pm CDT
Posted by Optimum Supreme on March 13th, 2015 @ 6:03pm CDT
Meh.
It's not the worst thing ever, but not something very thrilling either.
I'm not sure this was a good reuse of the Jetfire mold. Doesn't really suit the seeker form in robot mode, the wings are too different from how they normally are on seekers.
I really don't like that deceptibrand on his right shoulder. Just looks like they had no idea where to put that so just picked a random spot.
It's not the worst thing ever, but not something very thrilling either.
I'm not sure this was a good reuse of the Jetfire mold. Doesn't really suit the seeker form in robot mode, the wings are too different from how they normally are on seekers.
I really don't like that deceptibrand on his right shoulder. Just looks like they had no idea where to put that so just picked a random spot.
Re: In-Hand Images - Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Thundercracker (1662851)
Posted by Railbomb on March 14th, 2015 @ 11:47pm CDT
What? I'm a little bit confused as to what you mean "remolded into a cartoon accurate Skyfire". It would seem a little silly releasing 2 figures of the same character in the same line from the same base mold only a year apart. Both the Classics and Generations versions of him are pretty close to the cartoon version of him. Really, the main thing either of them would need is a different thruster pack. Jetfire's head without the battle mask is an almost perfect representation of Skyfire. Jetfire even has that weird window that was on the bottom of Skyfire's jet mode. Sure an MP Skyfire would be nice but it would have to be HUGE.
Posted by Railbomb on March 14th, 2015 @ 11:47pm CDT
Emerje wrote:Would have preferred they remolded him into a cartoon accurate Skyfire, but that's one thing we'll never get unless they make a Masterpiece and they can do a lot more making it into a Seeker. It's not a bad representation of the IDW design, but deluxe would have been better to go with Starscream I think.
Emerje
What? I'm a little bit confused as to what you mean "remolded into a cartoon accurate Skyfire". It would seem a little silly releasing 2 figures of the same character in the same line from the same base mold only a year apart. Both the Classics and Generations versions of him are pretty close to the cartoon version of him. Really, the main thing either of them would need is a different thruster pack. Jetfire's head without the battle mask is an almost perfect representation of Skyfire. Jetfire even has that weird window that was on the bottom of Skyfire's jet mode. Sure an MP Skyfire would be nice but it would have to be HUGE.
Re: In-Hand Images - Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Thundercracker (1662857)
Posted by King Kuuga on March 15th, 2015 @ 12:17am CDT
You mean like this?
Posted by King Kuuga on March 15th, 2015 @ 12:17am CDT
Railbomb wrote:What? I'm a little bit confused as to what you mean "remolded into a cartoon accurate Skyfire". It would seem a little silly releasing 2 figures of the same character in the same line from the same base mold only a year apart. Both the Classics and Generations versions of him are pretty close to the cartoon version of him. Really, the main thing either of them would need is a different thruster pack. Jetfire's head without the battle mask is an almost perfect representation of Skyfire. Jetfire even has that weird window that was on the bottom of Skyfire's jet mode. Sure an MP Skyfire would be nice but it would have to be HUGE.
You mean like this?
Re: In-Hand Images - Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Thundercracker (1662887)
Posted by albnok on March 15th, 2015 @ 4:14am CDT
Posted by albnok on March 15th, 2015 @ 4:14am CDT
I imagine this would work better with Motormaster and gray limbs, but Wave 2 hasn't arrived where I am:
Re: In-Hand Images - Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Thundercracker (1662894)
Posted by prjkt on March 15th, 2015 @ 5:40am CDT
Posted by prjkt on March 15th, 2015 @ 5:40am CDT
that ia nightmare material
Re: In-Hand Images - Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Thundercracker (1663117)
Posted by Railbomb on March 15th, 2015 @ 5:25pm CDT
Ay. Like him. But if I recall correctly that figure had a bunch of design problems and QC issues.
Posted by Railbomb on March 15th, 2015 @ 5:25pm CDT
That Bot wrote:Railbomb wrote:What? I'm a little bit confused as to what you mean "remolded into a cartoon accurate Skyfire". It would seem a little silly releasing 2 figures of the same character in the same line from the same base mold only a year apart. Both the Classics and Generations versions of him are pretty close to the cartoon version of him. Really, the main thing either of them would need is a different thruster pack. Jetfire's head without the battle mask is an almost perfect representation of Skyfire. Jetfire even has that weird window that was on the bottom of Skyfire's jet mode. Sure an MP Skyfire would be nice but it would have to be HUGE.
You mean like this?
Ay. Like him. But if I recall correctly that figure had a bunch of design problems and QC issues.
Re: In-Hand Images - Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Thundercracker (1663120)
Posted by King Kuuga on March 15th, 2015 @ 5:34pm CDT
Posted by King Kuuga on March 15th, 2015 @ 5:34pm CDT
Yeah, I noted that when I was hunting through threads for him (because I couldn't remember his name).
