In-Hand Images of Transformers Titans Return Octone, Blitzwing, Titan Master Ramhorn

It's funny what a different colour scheme and tank barrel will do. Even with all the jet stuff in the back, Blitzwing's tank mode suddenly feels a lot more closer to a real-life tank than Megatron, whose tank mode I felt was very alien.

Does Blitzwing have a new nosecone? It looks longer.

Sigma Magnus wrote:Does Blitzwing have a new nosecone? It looks longer.

Just got out my Megatron to check - its the same, detailing and length and all. I think it's the nosecone being a different colour to the cockpit that's making it look longer compared to Megatron's nosecone and cockpit both being gray. Or maybe the angle.

blitzwing looks like an immediate pass. no thanks

Ramhorn looks completely adorable. Him and Shuffler will be mine! MINE!

Blitzwing looks great. The stickers are crap for certain but that aside he looks awesome. The decision to give him a purple tank barrel is a bit weird though, might have to repaint that. Also I kinda wish he had Megatron's short tank barrel if only because it reminded me of one of the German light Panzers, and Panzers are cool.

Octane...Eh. Truck mode looks good and the robot mode is great, but the jet mode, improved though it is, still looks awful. I might go for Unique Toys Provider instead- sure it's technically MP scale but he looks fine next to CHUG in vehicle mode, and I'm OK with Octane being a hulking robot that towers over the others. I do still want the mold though, albeit as Scourge rather than Octane or Optimus.

I told myself I didn't need another Blitzwing. I told myself I was happy with the T30 version. I told myself that I could save $25.

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Black Hat wrote:Ramhorn looks completely adorable. Him and Shuffler will be mine! MINE!

Blitzwing looks great. The stickers are crap for certain but that aside he looks awesome. The decision to give him a purple tank barrel is a bit weird though, might have to repaint that. Also I kinda wish he had Megatron's short tank barrel if only because it reminded me of one of the German light Panzers, and Panzers are cool.

Octane...Eh. Truck mode looks good and the robot mode is great, but the jet mode, improved though it is, still looks awful. I might go for Unique Toys Provider instead- sure it's technically MP scale but he looks fine next to CHUG in vehicle mode, and I'm OK with Octane being a hulking robot that towers over the others. I do still want the mold though, albeit as Scourge rather than Octane or Optimus.

Actually, Blitzwing does have Megatron's short tank barrel -- while these pictures don't show it, the CG renders and other previous photos show that the tank barrel he has here is just a new gun he has in place of Megatron's fusion cannon.

I really hate how that barrel is purple and not beige to go with the tank. I am sure its a better toy than the thrilling 30 blitzwing, but I dont think it looks better.

william-james88 wrote:I really hate how that barrel is purple and not beige to go with the tank. I am sure its a better toy than the thrilling 30 blitzwing, but I dont think it looks better.

Yeah, I don't get that either. That said, Tamiya do some very good spray-cans that should match up to Blitzwing's beige fairly well, and being a single monocolour detachable piece, it should in theory be easy enough to spray. They do potted paint as well but then you're getting into airbrushing, which is a whole other area. Obviously it's not ideal, but at least it is fairly easy to rectify. I do wish they'd just made his barrel the right colour in the first place though.

I do wish T30 Blitzwing didn't suck so much. His robot mode is alright and I like that they included the Animated homage. But the vehicle modes suck, the face gimmick needs fixing and his shoulders are a mess. I'm glad I never picked him up.

If they'd be a bit less G1 with joints about it - Blitzwing could have benefited from a tank gun barrel that telescoped down and also that came off to combine with his sword to make a nice pole arm.

I like them both though "a lot". Optimus is really cheap now so I'd say buy him as a nice toy he's worth it and even more so when he's about half the price of a Movie Voyager.

I'd not even complain to much if they made Skywarp out of the Triplechanger Blitzwing mould too... ideally with a new head and chest. Or just when a bit nuts and made Fearswoop out of it.

Something random would be nice - but the best fit is likely Flywheels so anymore repaints I wan't him over anything else - though I'd also be fine with the Generations Thrilling 30 mould too for him.

With all these superflous giftsets they make for the 19080's Movie they could easily do a Flywheels toy out of Blitzwing.

I put Skullsmasher's tail on the side of his arm like RodimusConvoy13 did a page or so ago and took some pictures to better show how it goes on.



The first time was really easy but the second time I put it on it took a bit more work. The peg goes in at a slight angle.

...oh. No wonder I couldn't get it to work, I would not have been okay with that angle!

Is Ramhorn a retool of Shuffler?

Also for some reason Blitzwing and Octane look like redecos of Optimus Prime and Megatron to me while Sentinel Prime looks like a redeco of Astrotrain which it is but I'm confused why I think Blitzwing and Octane are redeocs of Optimus Prime and Megatron.

Maximal Rainmaker wrote:Also for some reason Blitzwing and Octane look like redecos of Optimus Prime and Megatron to me while Sentinel Prime looks like a redeco of Astrotrain which it is but I'm confused why I think Blitzwing and Octane are redeocs of Optimus Prime and Megatron.

Huh?

...I think he's saying that to him, Astrotrain seems like the main use of the mold, while Sentinel is the redeco. But with Prime and Megs, they seem like the main use, while Octane and Blitzwing are the redecos.

For Octane that makes sense, since as I've noted before, the robot mode is modeled heavily after Laser Prime rather than any specific version of Octane.

Megatron... well, I dunno. The mold just worked very well for the dude.

Wolfman Jake wrote:
As for Voyager Galvatron, it's almost a given that it will pop up in one of the box sets, since it's one of the only voyagers that hasn't been reused as yet at all. I don't count Alpha Trion, since he at least has some parts sharing going on with Broadside. The mold reuse would most likely still be another version of Galvatron, I would imagine, as his silhouette is just far too unique and iconic to be any other character. I could see the Galvatron reuse either being a G1 toy colors Galvatron, maybe dubbed "Galvatron II," or perhaps an actual screen accurate G1 cartoon Galvatron, with a lighter shade of purple for his many color and added paint apps here and there like the Takara Tomy Legends release. Heck, they could even retool it to have a proper head, or at least make it so the mask/helmet actually sits flush with the Titan Master. Don't put it past Hasbro to put a desirable update to an already released figure/character in a box set to make even more money.

I understand the logic, but it would made a pretty lazy recolor at the end. The Leader and deluxe of this pack will need to be really attractive.

Man these figures would have been SO much better if they weren't headmasters.

Kurona wrote:For Octane that makes sense, since as I've noted before, the robot mode is modeled heavily after Laser Prime rather than any specific version of Octane.

Megatron... well, I dunno. The mold just worked very well for the dude.

Don't be surprised, but the Tank/jet one's robot mode is based more on Megatron than on Blitzwing. You can definitely tell by the abdomen, which is styled after the Decepticon Leader.

And yes, Ramhorn is a retool of Shuffler. Quite surprising really, as he's the first one in which the vehicle is retooled as well.

omega666 wrote:Man these figures would have been SO much better if they weren't headmasters.

Yep.

While I've gotten over my absolute hatred of the gimmick, I still don't care for it. I've already lost Hotrod's head and had to get a shapeways replacement. Luckily it is based on mtmte, so it's better, but it doesn't bode well for the future.

With all the Negative Reactions on these two, i found them rather unique than hating them
I Found Blitzwing needs more of a silver paint on his face

Octane looks fine at is, no offense but i really like the Jumbo Jet mode much.
Blitzwing's cannons are just off, they should be the same color on the tank so it can match up the color scheme but meh, i'm still buying it and interested .

william-james88 wrote:I really hate how that barrel is purple and not beige to go with the tank. I am sure its a better toy than the thrilling 30 blitzwing, but I dont think it looks better.

Just go back to what Hasbro did with FOC Bruticus's colors vs Takara's. Sure Hasbro eventually gave us the real version but Takara had first dibs while we got that "Fruiticus" version.


The lesson is that they're not going to go the same extreme as they did there but annoying things like purple turrets will get us to spend $15-$20 more on Takara's version in their eyes.

Hell even I couldn't pass on LG40 but in Blitzwing's case I'll just paint the d@mn turret myself.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Kurona wrote:For Octane that makes sense, since as I've noted before, the robot mode is modeled heavily after Laser Prime rather than any specific version of Octane.

Megatron... well, I dunno. The mold just worked very well for the dude.

Don't be surprised, but the Tank/jet one's robot mode is based more on Megatron than on Blitzwing. You can definitely tell by the abdomen, which is styled after the Decepticon Leader.

It's interesting how certain details on a character can become so iconic. The only thing on Blitzwing that really screams "Megatron" is his abdomen. It's exactly the same sculpt as Titans Return Megatron, just painted over in white with no attempted to pick out the details. If they had remolded that part too, I don't think anything about Titans Return Blitzwing would look particularly "Megatron-esque."

For Octane, I think they did a better job. Both the chest piece and the abdomen have been remolded and look nothing like Optimus Prime, in any incarnation. You can fold back the shoulder pylons to take away another iconic part of the Laser Optimus Prime silhouette as well. Even if you don't, Octane's pylons have been differently sculpted so as not to resemble those of Laser Prime anyway. The rest of the sculpting is pretty "generic," like the arms, shoulders, pelvis, and thighs. The sculpting for Titans Return Optimus Prime's lower legs certainly call to mind the original G2 toy, but it's different enough and stylized enough that it doesn't look out of place on Octane, which I'm betting was the idea from the get go.

Long story short: Blitzwing looks more like a Megatron reuse than Octane does a Laser Optimus Prime reuse, even if only for Blitzwing's "Abs by Megatron" belly.

Wolfman Jake wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Kurona wrote:For Octane that makes sense, since as I've noted before, the robot mode is modeled heavily after Laser Prime rather than any specific version of Octane.

Megatron... well, I dunno. The mold just worked very well for the dude.

Don't be surprised, but the Tank/jet one's robot mode is based more on Megatron than on Blitzwing. You can definitely tell by the abdomen, which is styled after the Decepticon Leader.

It's interesting how certain details on a character can become so iconic. The only thing on Blitzwing that really screams "Megatron" is his abdomen. It's exactly the same sculpt as Titans Return Megatron, just painted over in white with no attempted to pick out the details. If they had remolded that part too, I don't think anything about Titans Return Blitzwing would look particularly "Megatron-esque."

For Octane, I think they did a better job. Both the chest piece and the abdomen have been remolded and look nothing like Optimus Prime, in any incarnation. You can fold back the shoulder pylons to take away another iconic part of the Laser Optimus Prime silhouette as well. Even if you don't, Octane's pylons have been differently sculpted so as not to resemble those of Laser Prime anyway. The rest of the sculpting is pretty "generic," like the arms, shoulders, pelvis, and thighs. The sculpting for Titans Return Optimus Prime's lower legs certainly call to mind the original G2 toy, but it's different enough and stylized enough that it doesn't look out of place on Octane, which I'm betting was the idea from the get go.

Long story short: Blitzwing looks more like a Megatron reuse than Octane does a Laser Optimus Prime reuse, even if only for Blitzwing's "Abs by Megatron" belly.

This is the downside of the "pre-tool" game. If you make a toy look like two characters there will always be iconic parts that just don't translate well.

That said, these are a hundred thousand times better than a bad repaint or slight retool like combiner wars. I'd rather have a good blitzwing and a good megatron with megatron's abs than a doubledealer with Blitzwing's everything.

LE0KING wrote:This is the downside of the "pre-tool" game. If you make a toy look like two characters there will always be iconic parts that just don't translate well.

That said, these are a hundred thousand times better than a bad repaint or slight retool like combiner wars. I'd rather have a good blitzwing and a good megatron with megatron's abs than a doubledealer with Blitzwing's everything.

With this new Blitzwing, though, that Thrilling 30 repaint/retool Doubledealer will look much more distinct on our shelves. Heck, the new Titans Return mold looks much more like G1 Blitzwing, especially in the torso, than the T30 mold ever did. It's too bad the TFCC couldn't get a Flywheels repaint of that Blitzwing mold before their partnership with Hasbro ended last year. The Thrilling 30 mold would really do Flywheels justice.

Funnily enough, the original Blitzwing toy does have white intakes where Megatron's intake ab things are. Not exactly the same of course; but I guess Hasbro figured they were similar enough - and that for Blitzwing in particular, it's such a minor detail - that there was no point in changing the piece.

I'd rather they'd have given him a new ab piece than give Octane a new chestplate, though. God I wish Octane still had his chest windows; I know they're the same as Optimus', but they're like one of the only distinct character details he has!

Kurona wrote:Funnily enough, the original Blitzwing toy does have white intakes where Megatron's intake ab things are. Not exactly the same of course; but I guess Hasbro figured they were similar enough - and that for Blitzwing in particular, it's such a minor detail - that there was no point in changing the piece.

I'd rather they'd have given him a new ab piece than give Octane a new chestplate, though. God I wish Octane still had his chest windows; I know they're the same as Optimus', but they're like one of the only distinct character details he has!

I swear, no one remembers what Octane looked like in G1. He NEVER had chest windows, in any G1 media (toy, cartoon, comic, or otherwise). What you're thinking of is a design change made to Universe 2008 Octane (a.k.a., Tankor), which was reused in some IDW artwork of the character in the past decade or so.

Wolfman Jake wrote:

Kurona wrote:Funnily enough, the original Blitzwing toy does have white intakes where Megatron's intake ab things are. Not exactly the same of course; but I guess Hasbro figured they were similar enough - and that for Blitzwing in particular, it's such a minor detail - that there was no point in changing the piece.

I'd rather they'd have given him a new ab piece than give Octane a new chestplate, though. God I wish Octane still had his chest windows; I know they're the same as Optimus', but they're like one of the only distinct character details he has!

I swear, no one remembers what Octane looked like in G1. He NEVER had chest windows, in any G1 media (toy, cartoon, comic, or otherwise). What you're thinking of is a design change made to Universe 2008 Octane (a.k.a., Tankor), which was reused in some IDW artwork of the character in the past decade or so.

TR Octone does have detailing referring to the G1 toy.


Transformers Universe - Classics 2.0 Tankor (Octane) Gallery



He's the best of both figures

Wolfman Jake wrote:

Kurona wrote:Funnily enough, the original Blitzwing toy does have white intakes where Megatron's intake ab things are. Not exactly the same of course; but I guess Hasbro figured they were similar enough - and that for Blitzwing in particular, it's such a minor detail - that there was no point in changing the piece.

I'd rather they'd have given him a new ab piece than give Octane a new chestplate, though. God I wish Octane still had his chest windows; I know they're the same as Optimus', but they're like one of the only distinct character details he has!

I swear, no one remembers what Octane looked like in G1. He NEVER had chest windows, in any G1 media (toy, cartoon, comic, or otherwise). What you're thinking of is a design change made to Universe 2008 Octane (a.k.a., Tankor), which was reused in some IDW artwork of the character in the past decade or so.

Who said anything about G1? Not everyone cares about or even likes G1. Some of us prefer the IDW look.

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LE0KING wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:

Kurona wrote:Funnily enough, the original Blitzwing toy does have white intakes where Megatron's intake ab things are. Not exactly the same of course; but I guess Hasbro figured they were similar enough - and that for Blitzwing in particular, it's such a minor detail - that there was no point in changing the piece.

I'd rather they'd have given him a new ab piece than give Octane a new chestplate, though. God I wish Octane still had his chest windows; I know they're the same as Optimus', but they're like one of the only distinct character details he has!

I swear, no one remembers what Octane looked like in G1. He NEVER had chest windows, in any G1 media (toy, cartoon, comic, or otherwise). What you're thinking of is a design change made to Universe 2008 Octane (a.k.a., Tankor), which was reused in some IDW artwork of the character in the past decade or so.

Who said anything about G1?

Hasbro.

LE0KING wrote:Not everyone cares about or even likes G1. Some of us prefer the IDW look.

The IDW look is based on a toy released by Hasbro in 2008 under their revamped "Transformers Universe" line as a "Classics 2.0" take on the original Generation 1 character of Octane. The design idea for "Transformers Classics" at that time was modern updates of G1 characters, with more current alt modes, better articulation and toy engineering, and added detail of flare that suited the whims of the designers. Right now, people are confusing the details created for "Classics" Octane with his G1 self. Hasbro is focused on a much more G1 oriented look to its Generations toys right now. To Hasbro, and people who are paying attention, Titans Return Octane isn't "missing" any details, because they were never there in the intended source material to begin with.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:TR Octone does have detailing referring to the G1 toy.

I didn't say otherwise, did I?

Wolfman Jake wrote:

Kurona wrote:Funnily enough, the original Blitzwing toy does have white intakes where Megatron's intake ab things are. Not exactly the same of course; but I guess Hasbro figured they were similar enough - and that for Blitzwing in particular, it's such a minor detail - that there was no point in changing the piece.

I'd rather they'd have given him a new ab piece than give Octane a new chestplate, though. God I wish Octane still had his chest windows; I know they're the same as Optimus', but they're like one of the only distinct character details he has!

I swear, no one remembers what Octane looked like in G1. He NEVER had chest windows, in any G1 media (toy, cartoon, comic, or otherwise). What you're thinking of is a design change made to Universe 2008 Octane (a.k.a., Tankor), which was reused in some IDW artwork of the character in the past decade or so.

Oh I know, I'm just saying that those chest windows added later in Universe and IDW helps him stand out. And it'd make more sense since he has a panel for a chest here instead of the truck cab becoming the chest.

YoungPrime wrote:The lesson is that they're not going to go the same extreme as they did there but annoying things like purple turrets will get us to spend $15-$20 more on Takara's version in their eyes.

Hell even I couldn't pass on LG40 but in Blitzwing's case I'll just paint the d@mn turret myself.

But what does Hasbro gain from some fans going to takara? I dont really see the point of such a conspiracy. And that purple turrent is beyond dumb. I would udnerstand if it was removeable and doubled as his gun, which is purple. But it doesnt. And I tried removing that turret from Megatron, DONT. It is not meant to be removed. So there really is 0 point in it being purple.

Bu aside from that Blitzwing looks great and while I am not very familiar with his G1 look (I know him more from Animated), doing a simple google search shows that the broad upper body is a perfect fit. The colour schem is a nice blend of the G1 show (like th chest area) and the toy (like the colour of the arms and detailing on the lower torso).

it will be an easy purchase.

william-james88 wrote:

YoungPrime wrote:The lesson is that they're not going to go the same extreme as they did there but annoying things like purple turrets will get us to spend $15-$20 more on Takara's version in their eyes.

Hell even I couldn't pass on LG40 but in Blitzwing's case I'll just paint the d@mn turret myself.

But what does Hasbro gain from some fans going to takara? I dont really see the point of such a conspiracy. And that purple turrent is beyond dumb. I would udnerstand if it was removeable and doubled as his gun, which is purple. But it doesnt. And I tried removing that turret from Megatron, DONT. It is not meant to be removed. So there really is 0 point in it being purple.

Bu aside from that Blitzwing looks great and while I am not very familiar with his G1 look (I know him more from Animated), doing a simple google search shows that the broad upper body is a perfect fit. The colour schem is a nice blend of the G1 show (like th chest area) and the toy (like the colour of the arms and detailing on the lower torso).

it will be an easy purchase.

The turret does attach and become his gun; you can see on the stock renders it can attach to the TM gun like Megatron's fusion cannon.

Kurona wrote:The turret does attach and become his gun; you can see on the stock renders it can attach to the TM gun like Megatron's fusion cannon.

Ah thanks, well that explains it.

Titans return doesn't miss a beat. With people finally getting their hands on the wave 4 toys, we now have reviews of the wave 5 toys coming in since they were released in the Philippines. For now we have a review of Titans Return Octone but we are sure we will see reviews of others shortly. The reviewer does a good job of pointing out what has changed from the Optimus Prime use of this voyager mold.

Enjoy!

I can't wait to see what Takara does with Blitzing.

Score up one more for the Megatron praising and some surprising Alpha Bravo representation

Nik Hero wrote:I can't wait to see what Takara does with Blitzing.

My first guess was taht they would give him purple forearms so he would be show accurate but then I realized that it would make for one weird looking tank.

Nik Hero wrote:I can't wait to see what Takara does with Blitzwing.

I hope its paint, but stickers for me is better as well
Also, can't wait for 's manga works with him playing at the stadium and scores 2 points on the game

william-james88 wrote:

Nik Hero wrote:I can't wait to see what Takara does with Blitzing.

My first guess was taht they would give him purple forearms so he would be show accurate but then I realized that it would make for one weird looking tank.

At the very least, they'll give him a silver face instead of purple. They'll probably get the gun barrel on the tank the right color too. Otherwise, there's not too much to be done, except for the forearms, as you mentioned. Oh, and lest we forget, NO STICKERS!

william-james88 wrote:

Nik Hero wrote:I can't wait to see what Takara does with Blitzing.

My first guess was taht they would give him purple forearms so he would be show accurate but then I realized that it would make for one weird looking tank.

They might just paint the "inner" surface (the top in robot mode) of his forearms... not that it'd look fantastic on the robot, but it wouldn't mess with the tank mode's color scheme that way. Though it might look a little strange in jet mode too (or maybe it'd fit better with the jet's colors that way ).

Kurona wrote:Score up one more for the Megatron praising and some surprising Alpha Bravo representation

I love Thew's Reviews! "Giant Distended Fusion-Phallus" is the new word of the day, lol!

my favourite part was "do do do doomshot". I just love the quick comedy

I found something on Blitzwing face why he was purple

Maybe because of this design?

Albatross250 wrote:I found something on Blitzwing face why he was purple

Maybe because of this design?

It's because the original G1 toy had a purple face, which that art (likely Dreamwave) seems to be going off of. Bar the occasional MTMTE or Cartoon reference here or there in the facesculpts (or of course, the cases of retools/repaints) you'll notice a lot of Titans Return and Combiner Wars are heavily modeled after the G1 toys over most other media, in terms of both mold and paint.

Kurona wrote:

Albatross250 wrote:I found something on Blitzwing face why he was purple

Maybe because of this design?

It's because the original G1 toy had a purple face, which that art (likely Dreamwave)

It's Guido Guidi's cover art for the RI-C cover of Infiltration #3, and which was later recycled for The Transformers Classics, Vol. 6.

pukewing review up
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Another day, another review! Youtuber Chefatron is at it once again, giving us a video review of the upcoming Titans Return voyager class Blitzwing with Hazard! Blitzwing is a slight retool of Megatron, triple changing from a tank to a jet and then to a robot! He also features a gun and a sword. You can check out the review below and let us know what you think of him in the comments section below!

He looks a LOT better than previous looks at him had led me to believe. Not entirely sure how much of a fan I am of a purple that deep, but nevertheless its a good look.