In-Hand Image - Takara Tomy Transformers Adventure TAV03 Strongarm
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Posted by Fires_Of_Inferno on February 18th, 2015 @ 4:18am CST
I was kinda hoping that the Takara version would do something about that, because it's such an ugly blemish on an otherwise decent figure.
Posted by Rated X on February 18th, 2015 @ 6:04am CST
Posted by RhA on February 18th, 2015 @ 6:08am CST
Rated X wrote:WTF ??? "Strongarm" is a chick ?
What's wrong with that?
Posted by Softimus Prime on February 18th, 2015 @ 6:14am CST
Rated X wrote:WTF ??? "Strongarm" is a chick ?
Yes, believe it or not, women indeed have arms. I know it is a startling revelation but we'll have to consider Strongarm ,and any other name with "arm" "elbow" or even "wrist" to be gender-neutral from now on.
Regrettably it appears She has some trouble with developing proper hands, so that may remain masculine for the time being.
Posted by Fires_Of_Inferno on February 18th, 2015 @ 6:23am CST
Rated X wrote:WTF ??? "Strongarm" is a chick ?
Wait, you didn't know? There's been trailers for the show with her in them. She says stuff in the trailers! There's pictures of her in the galleries! How could you have not known the character was female yet?
Posted by SKYWARPED_128 on February 18th, 2015 @ 6:35am CST
Posted by Va'al on February 18th, 2015 @ 7:30am CST
SKYWARPED_128 wrote:And the show begins....
Hand some over, will you?
Posted by Mechastrike on February 18th, 2015 @ 7:51am CST
Posted by Peridot on February 18th, 2015 @ 7:57am CST
Mechastrike wrote:and i still have that strong urge of shipping her with Bumblebee.
Part of me is afraid that they'll make her (the uptight lady) and Sideswipe (the edgy bad boy) "a thing" in the show. UGH SO CLICHED
Posted by Rated X on February 18th, 2015 @ 8:14am CST
Softimus Prime wrote:Rated X wrote:WTF ??? "Strongarm" is a chick ?
Yes, believe it or not, women indeed have arms. I know it is a startling revelation but we'll have to consider Strongarm ,and any other name with "arm" "elbow" or even "wrist" to be gender-neutral from now on.
Regrettably it appears She has some trouble with developing proper hands, so that may remain masculine for the time being.
I know this is probably gonna start a huge debate among those who get all touchy about certain generalizations about how "fembots" should look, but what the hell...
I just cant condone a blatant male bot body with a blatant male bot name being made a female just to prove some kind of point. At least Strika looked like a big fat bloated woman but in a menacing sort of way. But Strongarm just looks silly. I never bothered to even look at the face in the pictures. I always assumed it was a guy. I would hope someone does a new head to give this big brute of a bot a face to match. Just my opinion. Now let the mayhem begin.
Posted by Va'al on February 18th, 2015 @ 8:17am CST
Can anyone spot any significant differences between the TAV and Hasbro versions?
Posted by fenrir72 on February 18th, 2015 @ 8:27am CST
Rated X wrote:Softimus Prime wrote:Rated X wrote:WTF ??? "Strongarm" is a chick ?
Yes, believe it or not, women indeed have arms. I know it is a startling revelation but we'll have to consider Strongarm ,and any other name with "arm" "elbow" or even "wrist" to be gender-neutral from now on.
Regrettably it appears She has some trouble with developing proper hands, so that may remain masculine for the time being.
I know this is probably gonna start a huge debate among those who get all touchy about certain generalizations about how "fembots" should look, but what the hell...
I just cant condone a blatant male bot body with a blatant male bot name being made a female just to prove some kind of point. At least Strika looked like a big fat bloated woman but in a menacing sort of way. But Strongarm just looks silly. I never bothered to even look at the face in the pictures. I always assumed it was a guy. I would hope someone does a new head to give this big brute of a bot a face to match. Just my opinion. Now let the mayhem begin.
Iirc, Strika is also female and she's built like a tank. Now, I'd like to see how Tomy will render anime style like those scenes in the Legend comics
Posted by Lockdownhunter on February 18th, 2015 @ 9:03am CST
robotmel wrote::D
With a headswap from Prowl, Transformers Prime Bluestreak anyone?
I could be tempted if these pop on lena81822 Ebay page!
"Eyes open wide with this amazing "
And that is why Takara paints like an awesome pro!Cheetimus Primal will be so jealous!
Posted by Mechastrike on February 18th, 2015 @ 9:11am CST
Posted by shajaki on February 18th, 2015 @ 9:11am CST
Posted by Peridot on February 18th, 2015 @ 9:21am CST
Rated X wrote:*obvious flamebait*
Because this obviously isn't feminine at all.
Nope, not in the least.
Not all women are curvy, overly skinny supermodel-types. Not all fembots need to look like Arcee. Get over it and quit trying to manufacture pointless debates.
Posted by Mechastrike on February 18th, 2015 @ 9:22am CST
Metro Prime wrote:Mechastrike wrote:and i still have that strong urge of shipping her with Bumblebee.
Part of me is afraid that they'll make her (the uptight lady) and Sideswipe (the edgy bad boy) "a thing" in the show. UGH SO CLICHED
... yeah =(
Posted by Sabrblade on February 18th, 2015 @ 9:26am CST
Where the slag have you been for the past SEVEN MONTHS?Rated X wrote:WTF ??? "Strongarm" is a chick ?
Posted by Rated X on February 18th, 2015 @ 9:31am CST
Metro Prime wrote:Rated X wrote:*obvious flamebait*
Because this obviously isn't feminine at all.
Nope, not in the least.
Not all women are curvy, overly skinny supermodel-types. Not all fembots need to look like Arcee. Get over it and quit trying to manufacture pointless debates.
So a debate is deemed "pointless" because you dont agree with the oposing stance ?
I admit the image you attached much portrayed the character's body as being femine. But the toy just doest capture the same look. Robots are built, not born out of a belly. So unless her "creator" was trying to make a statement, theres no reason why she shouldnt have been created with a feminine body. G1 Firestar turned into a truck and still pulled off the look.
Posted by Sabrblade on February 18th, 2015 @ 9:45am CST
Have you forgotten that Hasbro is going for "simple" with the RID toys? We should expect blockiness from every character's toy in the line, regardless of gender. The toy doesn't capture the "more-slender-than-the-toy" look of the animation model because it didn't try to.Rated X wrote:I admit the image you attached much portrayed the character's body as being femine. But the toy just doest capture the same look. Robots are built, not born out of a belly. So unless her "creator" was trying to make a statement, theres no reason why she shouldnt have been created with a feminine body. G1 Firestar turned into a truck and still pulled off the look.
Same with the roundness of Grimlock's animation model vs. his more blocky toy.
Plus, in this continuity, the Transformers are born out of a belly. Cybertron's belly. The Well of All Sparks. There's no "building" involved in their creation. The Well "creates" their bodies when it gives birth to them.
Posted by Madeus Prime on February 18th, 2015 @ 9:58am CST
Without sounding sexist here, but am I the only one who would like to see some less hard-ass female Transformers? I'm sorry, but TFP Arcee was horribly boring, she was just predictable. Oh look, a Autobot loses their partner, they want revenge, they are willing to deviate from the mission to do so, they have a nemesis who is usually of the same gender. Sorry, overwrought and overboring. Give us a female TF who is capable of laughing or smiling and not just being snarky and mean.
Posted by shajaki on February 18th, 2015 @ 10:08am CST
so how do you explain the fact that in the "male" TF world theres big bruisers, slender little dudes and everything in between?Rated X wrote:So a debate is deemed "pointless" because you dont agree with the oposing stance ?
I admit the image you attached much portrayed the character's body as being femine. But the toy just doest capture the same look. Robots are built, not born out of a belly. So unless her "creator" was trying to make a statement, theres no reason why she shouldnt have been created with a feminine body. G1 Firestar turned into a truck and still pulled off the look.
its odd to you that the lady bots dont all conform to one body type?
Posted by brokenchopstick on February 18th, 2015 @ 10:21am CST
Madeus Prime wrote:Without sounding sexist here, but am I the only one who would like to see some less hard-ass female Transformers? I'm sorry, but TFP Arcee was horribly boring, she was just predictable. Oh look, a Autobot loses their partner, they want revenge, they are willing to deviate from the mission to do so, they have a nemesis who is usually of the same gender. Sorry, overwrought and overboring. Give us a female TF who is capable of laughing or smiling and not just being snarky and mean.
Have you been reading the IDW comics? Chromia, Nautica and Windblade have been doing a better job of showcasing personality diversity among fembots. Definitely worth catching up on if you've missed out!
Posted by Madeus Prime on February 18th, 2015 @ 10:30am CST
brokenchopstick wrote:Madeus Prime wrote:Without sounding sexist here, but am I the only one who would like to see some less hard-ass female Transformers? I'm sorry, but TFP Arcee was horribly boring, she was just predictable. Oh look, a Autobot loses their partner, they want revenge, they are willing to deviate from the mission to do so, they have a nemesis who is usually of the same gender. Sorry, overwrought and overboring. Give us a female TF who is capable of laughing or smiling and not just being snarky and mean.
Have you been reading the IDW comics? Chromia, Nautica and Windblade have been doing a better job of showcasing personality diversity among fembots. Definitely worth catching up on if you've missed out!
*snip*
Oh I wasn't talking about the comics! I absolutely adore the new additions, particularly Windblade and Nautica. I was talking about the mainstream media, like the cartoons.
Posted by Wolfman Jake on February 18th, 2015 @ 10:37am CST
Human beings don't have to conform to certain body types as dictated by a culture's own ideals of gender-biased beauty or role assignment. We come in all shapes and sizes, male or female. Yes, you can point to biological trends in how male and female bodies develop in general or on the average, but no one is "perfect" example of a masculine or feminine body. So, when we're talking about robots, who don't have sexes in a biological sense, but genders in a somewhat more abstract sense than even humans, robots who are from another planet and therefore alien to our own ecosystem and evolutionary trajectory, why would we expect that they must conform to our ideals of masculine and feminine body types? If Hasbro put out a lavender and teal repaint of the Classics Seeker mold and called it Slipstream, a female seeker, I'd not give it a second thought. No need to "soften" her edges, put lipstick on her mouth, or put a pink bow on her head to convince me the character is female. I know she's female. There doesn't have to be cognitive dissonance there to accept that.
Posted by Sabrblade on February 18th, 2015 @ 10:45am CST
Not exactly model examples of the typical, slender, feminine body.
Posted by fenrir72 on February 18th, 2015 @ 10:48am CST
Metro Prime wrote:Rated X wrote:*obvious flamebait*
Because this obviously isn't feminine at all.
Nope, not in the least.
Not all women are curvy, overly skinny supermodel-types. Not all fembots need to look like Arcee. Get over it and quit trying to manufacture pointless debates.
Maybe this was mentioned before but Strongarm sure reminds me of Crasher's HB's animation model.
That's female enough for me.
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on February 18th, 2015 @ 10:49am CST
Although, if we're being perfectly far, having a female voice actor in a cartoon would fall into the "bit more work" category to me. I have no problem accepting this toy as female and if I did watching the show would soften that stance. I think the lipstick helps. It's completely redundant and unnecessary, on a robot, but so are beards and who wants something silly like an unbearded Unicron or Wreck Gar?
But I wouldn't be able to accept a repainted Classics Seeker as Slipstream with no moulding changes made. Especially since it's such a common male body type. It wouldn't satisfy my desire for Slipstream as a female version of the Seeker mould and any artist drawing it would likely feminize it. If it were a different, less commonly male associated mould, it may be a different story.
Posted by william-james88 on February 18th, 2015 @ 10:59am CST
Posted by fenrir72 on February 18th, 2015 @ 11:02am CST
Gauntlet101010 wrote:Hate to say it, but I can kinda see X's point. TFs by default are male. It comes from being a boy's toyline and doesn't make a lick of sense, but it's what it is. Even the very androgynous ones can be safely assumed to be male until conflicting evidence exists. So female TFs need a bit more work to work.
Although, if we're being perfectly far, having a female voice actor in a cartoon would fall into the "bit more work" category to me. I have no problem accepting this toy as female and if I did watching the show would soften that stance. I think the lipstick helps. It's completely redundant and unnecessary, on a robot, but so are beards and who wants something silly like an unbearded Unicron or Wreck Gar?
But I wouldn't be able to accept a repainted Classics Seeker as Slipstream with no moulding changes made. Especially since it's such a common male body type. It wouldn't satisfy my desire for Slipstream as a female version of the Seeker mould and any artist drawing it would likely feminize it. If it were a different, less commonly male associated mould, it may be a different story.
Wasn't there also an issue with Galaxyforce Nitroconvoy aka Override? The US animated version turned her into a fembot..........the body type sure doesn't even look female, and didn't have any lipstick in the toy. The pics from TFYuki doesn't allow for anymore magnification to see if the toy's face also shares the same design as the show.
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on February 18th, 2015 @ 11:06am CST
fenrir72 wrote:Gauntlet101010 wrote:Hate to say it, but I can kinda see X's point. TFs by default are male. It comes from being a boy's toyline and doesn't make a lick of sense, but it's what it is. Even the very androgynous ones can be safely assumed to be male until conflicting evidence exists. So female TFs need a bit more work to work.
Although, if we're being perfectly far, having a female voice actor in a cartoon would fall into the "bit more work" category to me. I have no problem accepting this toy as female and if I did watching the show would soften that stance. I think the lipstick helps. It's completely redundant and unnecessary, on a robot, but so are beards and who wants something silly like an unbearded Unicron or Wreck Gar?
But I wouldn't be able to accept a repainted Classics Seeker as Slipstream with no moulding changes made. Especially since it's such a common male body type. It wouldn't satisfy my desire for Slipstream as a female version of the Seeker mould and any artist drawing it would likely feminize it. If it were a different, less commonly male associated mould, it may be a different story.
Wasn't there also an issue with Galaxyforce Nitroconvoy aka Override? The US animated version turned her into a fembot..........the body type sure doesn't even look female, and didn't have any lipstick in the toy. The pics from TFYuki doesn't allow for anymore magnification to see if the toy's face also shares the same design as the show.
Never got into that show, so I don't find it convincing. But, again, the voice counts for a lot. Like, A LOT. If I watched the show I'd probably be fine with considering that a female toy. Just like Strika.
But that black Wheelie up there? Yeah, no. That's just not enough.
Posted by Sabrblade on February 18th, 2015 @ 11:07am CST
Override wasn't made female for any controversy, but more because Cartoon Network wanted a stronger female presence in the show, and so Hasbro saw fit to gender-bend the male Nitro Convoy into the female Override, deeming the character design androgynous enough to make it work. And it did work. Quite well, even.fenrir72 wrote:Wasn't there also an issue with Galaxyforce Nitroconvoy aka Override? The US animated version turned her into a fembot..........the body type sure doesn't even look female, and didn't have any lipstick in the toy. The pics from TFYuki doesn't allow for anymore magnification to see if the toy's face also shares the same design as the show.
Twas a similar case that happened with Airazor in Beast Wars. Bob and Larry wanted a larger female presence in the show, and so requested that Hasbro make the upcoming Airazor toy be identified in its bio as a female. As the toy hadn't come out yet and wasn't designed with a specific gender in mind, Hasbro was able to declare Airazor a female just in time.
Posted by RhA on February 18th, 2015 @ 11:08am CST
Gauntlet101010 wrote:Hate to say it, but I can kinda see X's point. TFs by default are male. It comes from being a boy's toyline and doesn't make a lick of sense, but it's what it is. Even the very androgynous ones can be safely assumed to be male until conflicting evidence exists. So female TFs need a bit more work to work.
Although, if we're being perfectly far, having a female voice actor in a cartoon would fall into the "bit more work" category to me. I have no problem accepting this toy as female and if I did watching the show would soften that stance. I think the lipstick helps. It's completely redundant and unnecessary, on a robot, but so are beards and who wants something silly like an unbearded Unicron or Wreck Gar?
But I wouldn't be able to accept a repainted Classics Seeker as Slipstream with no moulding changes made. Especially since it's such a common male body type. It wouldn't satisfy my desire for Slipstream as a female version of the Seeker mould and any artist drawing it would likely feminize it. If it were a different, less commonly male associated mould, it may be a different story.
Does Strongarm strike you as female?
Posted by william-james88 on February 18th, 2015 @ 11:08am CST
fenrir72 wrote:Gauntlet101010 wrote:Hate to say it, but I can kinda see X's point. TFs by default are male. It comes from being a boy's toyline and doesn't make a lick of sense, but it's what it is. Even the very androgynous ones can be safely assumed to be male until conflicting evidence exists. So female TFs need a bit more work to work.
Although, if we're being perfectly far, having a female voice actor in a cartoon would fall into the "bit more work" category to me. I have no problem accepting this toy as female and if I did watching the show would soften that stance. I think the lipstick helps. It's completely redundant and unnecessary, on a robot, but so are beards and who wants something silly like an unbearded Unicron or Wreck Gar?
But I wouldn't be able to accept a repainted Classics Seeker as Slipstream with no moulding changes made. Especially since it's such a common male body type. It wouldn't satisfy my desire for Slipstream as a female version of the Seeker mould and any artist drawing it would likely feminize it. If it were a different, less commonly male associated mould, it may be a different story.
Wasn't there also an issue with Galaxyforce Nitroconvoy aka Override? The US animated version turned her into a fembot..........the body type sure doesn't even look female, and didn't have any lipstick in the toy. The pics from TFYuki doesn't allow for anymore magnification to see if the toy's face also shares the same design as the show.
Good thing you are positng in the site best known for its HD Galleries.
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on February 18th, 2015 @ 11:17am CST
RhA wrote:Gauntlet101010 wrote:Hate to say it, but I can kinda see X's point. TFs by default are male. It comes from being a boy's toyline and doesn't make a lick of sense, but it's what it is. Even the very androgynous ones can be safely assumed to be male until conflicting evidence exists. So female TFs need a bit more work to work.
Although, if we're being perfectly far, having a female voice actor in a cartoon would fall into the "bit more work" category to me. I have no problem accepting this toy as female and if I did watching the show would soften that stance. I think the lipstick helps. It's completely redundant and unnecessary, on a robot, but so are beards and who wants something silly like an unbearded Unicron or Wreck Gar?
But I wouldn't be able to accept a repainted Classics Seeker as Slipstream with no moulding changes made. Especially since it's such a common male body type. It wouldn't satisfy my desire for Slipstream as a female version of the Seeker mould and any artist drawing it would likely feminize it. If it were a different, less commonly male associated mould, it may be a different story.
Does Strongarm strike you as female?
Just by looking at the toy (and packaging) and being completely unfamiliar with the show?
Only due to the lipstick. If I came across the toy without the lipstick and didn't already know it was female I wouldn't know.
Posted by Va'al on February 18th, 2015 @ 11:45am CST
Madeus Prime wrote:Okay, I'm afraid I'm taking the side of those disappointed in Strongarm's toy and general design. If they just could've made her the tiniest bit more feminine, in toy and cartoon, I would be a happy collector. But so far, she's probably my least favorite figure I've bought in the past six months.
Without sounding sexist here, but am I the only one who would like to see some less hard-ass female Transformers? I'm sorry, but TFP Arcee was horribly boring, she was just predictable. Oh look, a Autobot loses their partner, they want revenge, they are willing to deviate from the mission to do so, they have a nemesis who is usually of the same gender. Sorry, overwrought and overboring. Give us a female TF who is capable of laughing or smiling and not just being snarky and mean.
In addition to the point made by Wolfman Jake (got the right wolf this time!): from what we currently know about Strongarm, she's a fairly by the book, tough cop type of character. On top of that, in the clip posted by Sabrblade, she's making jokes, teasing BB, smiling alongside kicking robutt.
In the second trailer, BB complains about her, Sideswipe and Grimlock as being teenagers, so she's clearly not as 'experienced' as Arcee.
Also, she's written by Mairghread Scott, among others, who has shown (in my opinion at least) she can write different types of characters in the comics - which you seem to enjoy.
So far, then, she's different from Arcee in a number of aspects.
On the other hand: We have only just started seeing non-hard-ass types of male Transformers.
On the third hand: Comics are a mainstream media.
Posted by Va'al on February 18th, 2015 @ 11:55am CST
Wolfman Jake wrote:Kinda funny how the phrase "Not to sound sexist, but..." is almost always followed by a sexist statement.
Human beings don't have to conform to certain body types as dictated by a culture's own ideals of gender-biased beauty or role assignment. We come in all shapes and sizes, male or female. [and other good stuff]
Also, for reference, and paired with Sabrblade's post showing Transformers: Howard Schatz' photos of professional athletes.
And an article discussing comics design using those images as reference: http://comicsalliance.com/olympians-sup ... look-like/
Posted by Seibertron on February 18th, 2015 @ 12:22pm CST
Posted by Peridot on February 18th, 2015 @ 12:41pm CST
And, just for the record, I have a body type that's very similar to what we've seen of Strongarm so far. She's a much more realistic take on fembots, but some of us seem to have gotten too used to supermodels wrapped in tinfoil.
Posted by william-james88 on February 18th, 2015 @ 12:59pm CST
Posted by Fires_Of_Inferno on February 18th, 2015 @ 1:02pm CST
Posted by RhA on February 18th, 2015 @ 1:04pm CST
Gauntlet101010 wrote:RhA wrote:Gauntlet101010 wrote:Hate to say it, but I can kinda see X's point. TFs by default are male. It comes from being a boy's toyline and doesn't make a lick of sense, but it's what it is. Even the very androgynous ones can be safely assumed to be male until conflicting evidence exists. So female TFs need a bit more work to work.
Although, if we're being perfectly far, having a female voice actor in a cartoon would fall into the "bit more work" category to me. I have no problem accepting this toy as female and if I did watching the show would soften that stance. I think the lipstick helps. It's completely redundant and unnecessary, on a robot, but so are beards and who wants something silly like an unbearded Unicron or Wreck Gar?
But I wouldn't be able to accept a repainted Classics Seeker as Slipstream with no moulding changes made. Especially since it's such a common male body type. It wouldn't satisfy my desire for Slipstream as a female version of the Seeker mould and any artist drawing it would likely feminize it. If it were a different, less commonly male associated mould, it may be a different story.
Does Strongarm strike you as female?
Just by looking at the toy (and packaging) and being completely unfamiliar with the show?
Only due to the lipstick. If I came across the toy without the lipstick and didn't already know it was female I wouldn't know.
Her looks can go both ways, I guess. Even as a toy, IMO. I'm predisposed to seeing them as male, but now I know Strongarm is a female, my brain agrees.
What struck me about your post was that you used a seeker mold as an example. Starscream himself always was a bit ambiguos, him being male or female is very much in the eye of the beholder. There where enough people back when that saw ol' Screamer as a woman. If I'm not mistaken the French geewun cartoon portrayed him as female.
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on February 18th, 2015 @ 1:08pm CST
Posted by william-james88 on February 18th, 2015 @ 1:16pm CST
RhA wrote:Her looks can go both ways, I guess. Even as a toy, IMO. I'm predisposed to seeing them as male, but now I know Strongarm is a female, my brain agrees.
What struck me about your post was that you used a seeker mold as an example. Starscream himself always was a bit ambiguos, him being male or female is very much in the eye of the beholder. There where enough people back when that saw ol' Screamer as a woman. If I'm not mistaken the French geewun cartoon portrayed him as female.
Yup, Starscream was a woman in G1. They make a fun nod to it in TF Animated.
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on February 18th, 2015 @ 1:20pm CST
RhA wrote:Gauntlet101010 wrote:RhA wrote:Gauntlet101010 wrote:Hate to say it, but I can kinda see X's point. TFs by default are male. It comes from being a boy's toyline and doesn't make a lick of sense, but it's what it is. Even the very androgynous ones can be safely assumed to be male until conflicting evidence exists. So female TFs need a bit more work to work.
Although, if we're being perfectly far, having a female voice actor in a cartoon would fall into the "bit more work" category to me. I have no problem accepting this toy as female and if I did watching the show would soften that stance. I think the lipstick helps. It's completely redundant and unnecessary, on a robot, but so are beards and who wants something silly like an unbearded Unicron or Wreck Gar?
But I wouldn't be able to accept a repainted Classics Seeker as Slipstream with no moulding changes made. Especially since it's such a common male body type. It wouldn't satisfy my desire for Slipstream as a female version of the Seeker mould and any artist drawing it would likely feminize it. If it were a different, less commonly male associated mould, it may be a different story.
Does Strongarm strike you as female?
Just by looking at the toy (and packaging) and being completely unfamiliar with the show?
Only due to the lipstick. If I came across the toy without the lipstick and didn't already know it was female I wouldn't know.
Her looks can go both ways, I guess. Even as a toy, IMO. I'm predisposed to seeing them as male, but now I know Strongarm is a female, my brain agrees.
What struck me about your post was that you used a seeker mold as an example. Starscream himself always was a bit ambiguos, him being male or female is very much in the eye of the beholder. There where enough people back when that saw ol' Screamer as a woman. If I'm not mistaken the French geewun cartoon portrayed him as female.
I never had trouble seeing Screamer as a guy, knew of nobody with this problem, and have had 30 years cementing that look as "male TF." That's a long time. Just saying "this character model is female now with no changes" just doesn't work for me, especially for an iconic character like Starscream.
Edit: And it was the French movie dub, according to the wiki, not the regular version.
Posted by Wolfman Jake on February 18th, 2015 @ 1:43pm CST
Va'al wrote:In addition to the point made by Wolfman Jake (got the right wolf this time!)
Yay!
*wags*
Posted by Madeus Prime on February 18th, 2015 @ 1:52pm CST
Va'al wrote:In addition to the point made by Wolfman Jake (got the right wolf this time!): from what we currently know about Strongarm, she's a fairly by the book, tough cop type of character. On top of that, in the clip posted by Sabrblade, she's making jokes, teasing BB, smiling alongside kicking robutt.
Okay, true, but again, we've not seen the show fully yet.
Va'al wrote:Also, she's written by Mairghread Scott, among others, who has shown (in my opinion at least) she can write different types of characters in the comics - which you seem to enjoy.
That...I was not aware of. I only thought she was writing some later episodes.
Va'al wrote:So far, then, she's different from Arcee in a number of aspects.
On the other hand: We have only just started seeing non-hard-ass types of male Transformers. On the third hand: Comics are a mainstream media.
Okay, true, sorry, I was having a grumpy morning.
Seibertron wrote:Strongarm's voice actor is the very talented Constance Zimmer. Many of you will recognize her as Dana from HBO's Entourage.
Seibetron, you just got an ace in my book.
Posted by Seibertron on February 18th, 2015 @ 2:12pm CST
Madeus Prime wrote:Seibertron wrote:Strongarm's voice actor is the very talented Constance Zimmer. Many of you will recognize her as Dana from HBO's Entourage.
Seibetron, you just got an ace in my book.
Why thank you, Madeus Prime!
Posted by Wolfguard on February 18th, 2015 @ 2:34pm CST
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Posted by Sabrblade on February 18th, 2015 @ 2:46pm CST
Slipstream wasn't necessarily a nod to Starscream being feamale in the French dub of the G1 movie, but more just something that we're not supposed to question. The aspect of Starscream's personality that she represents is officially something we're not supposed to know.william-james88 wrote:Yup, Starscream was a woman in G1. They make a fun nod to it in TF Animated.