In-Hand Comparison - Transformers Titans Return and Walgreens Deluxe Brainstorm [UPDATED]

Nemesis Maximo wrote:

bluecatcinema wrote:

Kurona wrote:I just worry that they'll make Scorponok out of Trypticon because... well...

... those base modes are really freaking similar. Ramp in the middle, two extending parts out of each side, two spires at the back... it scares me.
I really hope they don't do it and, well, obviously they shouldn't because base modes aside even a blind dude could tell you they're nothing alike; but maybe that cynical side of me is really trying to scare me...

I highly doubt it. You can't make a scorpion out of a dinosaur, not even with the most extensive retooling. And Scorponok wouldn't be Scorponok without a scorpion mode.

I don't know, I could see it. On one hand, Scorponoc's robot mode would have the same limb placements as Tryp's, the only differences a being Scorp has longer arms and no tail in robot mode. And how involved was/is the transformation of the original Scorponoc? Doesn't he kinda just do the whole "hey look I'm a scorpion!" And then when you transform him he's just. Scorpion on two legs?

Maybe you can finagle a scorpion mode out of the dino mode, but what do you do about the bot mode? Trypticon's torso isn't the right shape for anything humanoid, his hips are too far apart and he doesn't have a proper pelvis. Scorponok's legs would have a mile wide gap between them on a squat body. There just isn't any way around making this work.

Emerje

Dr Va'al wrote:We've been teased about it, we've seen it in the San Diego Comic Con 2016 Titan Force set, we've seen him as the Walgreens exclusive at SDCC in the Hasbro area (right here!), and now fellow Seibertronian Neurie offers us a very quick comparison between the standalone Titans Return deluxe Brainstorm, his Titan Force counterpart, and the Voyager from the Generations line, with Headmaster Arcana! Check out the images mirrored below, including the Titan Master Teslor - note: the Walgreens one is the more saturated one on the right.

Its a fun toy, I prefer the main colour of the Wallgreens version, neither it nor the SDCC version are as good as the Voyager thought.

The Wallgreens has nice blue eyes and a vibrant orange face plate with better tampos.

Wow! The Walgreen's one looks a lot better!

I guess the Walgreens version looks better?

I don't know.

MtMtE has such washed out colors most of the time that I got used to the lighter color scheme.

I wish neither one was as extreme in color as they are.

I got the SDCC one over the weekend with the Walgreens on me on the way. I really like the SDCC one. It's very MTMTE and so it fits with what I wanted but I'm excited to get the retail release too to see them compared.

I must admit, I quite like the retail release over the SDCC version....

>prefers the colours on SDCC
>prefers the tampos on Walgreens

help me

When is the Walgreens one released?

I still just see Blurr vosplaying as Brainstorm. Generations version for the win.

Ironhidensh wrote:I still just see Blurr vosplaying as Brainstorm. Generations version for the win.

But you need brainstorm to complete the original 6

Bumblebee21 wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:I still just see Blurr vosplaying as Brainstorm. Generations version for the win.

But you need brainstorm to complete the original 6

Did you count Fortress Maximus as two?

I'm sure others have said it but the Walgreens release is striking me as having a very toy inspired deco. I do prefer the SDCC lighter colors. Luckily I already have the voyager and don't need to have all the Headmasters in the same scale.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Bumblebee21 wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:I still just see Blurr vosplaying as Brainstorm. Generations version for the win.

But you need brainstorm to complete the original 6

Did you count Fortress Maximus as two?

No Cerebros and Arcee

I know I probably should have expected this, but the Titans Return Brainstorm makes the Generations one look like a powered-up version!

DUDE. Size DOES matter!

Oh well I guess there'll be those who will be happy with baby-sized ones....

Bumblebee21 wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Bumblebee21 wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:I still just see Blurr vosplaying as Brainstorm. Generations version for the win.

But you need brainstorm to complete the original 6

Did you count Fortress Maximus as two?

No Cerebros and Arcee

I don't really count Arcee as she's fiction-only and a toy of her was never made in G1. As for a possible TR release, expect a redeco of Chromedome like the original G1 proposal:



I really don't see them retooling Gen. Arcee.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Bumblebee21 wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Bumblebee21 wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:I still just see Blurr vosplaying as Brainstorm. Generations version for the win.

But you need brainstorm to complete the original 6

Did you count Fortress Maximus as two?

No Cerebros and Arcee

I don't really count Arcee as she's fiction-only and a toy of her was never made in G1. As for a possible TR release, expect a redeco of Chromedome like the original G1 proposal:



I really don't see them retooling Gen. Arcee.

Yeah but she was made with the other 4
I think they might do the blurr mold. I don't know

The Walgreens one has unpainted altmode guns, whereas the SDCC one has them painted gray/silver.

Its a fun toy, I prefer the main colour of the Wallgreens version, neither it nor the SDCC version are as good as the Voyager thought.

The Wallgreens has nice blue eyes and a vibrant orange face plate with better tampos.

Really? I mean, the Voyager definitely looks better... But I found the Voyager Brainstorm to be an incredibly boring figure to play with. Whereas I am enjoying the hell out of Titans Return Blurr.

Sabrblade wrote:The Walgreens one has unpainted altmode guns, whereas the SDCC one has them painted gray/silver.

So what!? The G1 toy didn't have those painted as well!

I definitely like the vibrant colours of the algreens version more. Where can I get one in the UK? I prefer the deluxe figure far more than the voyager too. I had the Voyager but there were so many things I didn't like about the design and overall shape of parts (the pointy feet bugged me for example) and they're all much better on the more G1-ish Deluxe here.

Carnivius_Prime wrote:I definitely like the vibrant colours of the algreens version more. Where can I get one in the UK? I prefer the deluxe figure far more than the voyager too. I had the Voyager but there were so many things I didn't like about the design and overall shape of parts (the pointy feet bugged me for example) and they're all much better on the more G1-ish Deluxe here.

I'd keep an eye on stores like ASDA and Tesco, as such exclusives tend to become regular releases in Europe. However, don't look for just the name "Brainstorm": the UK import for the SDCC set required a name change for him, he was renamed "Charon". Don't ask.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
I'd keep an eye on stores like ASDA and Tesco, as such exclusives tend to become regular releases in Europe. However, don't look for just the name "Brainstorm": the UK import for the SDCC set required a name change for him, he was renamed "Charon". Don't ask.

Hm, it's been a loooong time since I've seen proper Transformers in a Tesco or Asda near me. They usually just have RiD and real basic stuff. Never seen Generations in there and the only AoE stuff was the real simple stuff like the sparky dinos, one step changers such things.

Charon is a bit of a random name. If Brainstorm, Brainwave, Brainiac and such aren't allowed...what about.. Mr Clever? I dunno.

DigitalBrave3 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:The Walgreens one has unpainted altmode guns, whereas the SDCC one has them painted gray/silver.

So what!? The G1 toy didn't have those painted as well!

... I mean... yeah, but... it doesn't really matter if the G1 toy had them unpainted, it's still kind of crap.

If the british public school system is anything to go by, they'd likely change his name to either

MindMap

or

Spider-Diagram

I remember when I was in primary school people were talking about how we weren't supposed to call it 'brainstorming' anymore, as it turns out:

"The term originally referred to a state of temporary insanity, gaining prominence when it was used in the defense of Harry Kendall Thaw against charges that he murdered prominent architect Stanford White (1907-8)."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brainstorm

...it was something to do with a mental illness, and was culturally insensitive.

Hasbro would likely drop the name here, not because of political pressure, or the ministry of truth, or "political correctness gone mad", but to protect themselves from the same kind of media backlash and bad PR that they opened themselves upto by naming a trasformer "Spastic"(See:http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Over-Run_(PCC)). Which for our american friends is considered a derogatory term in the UK for people with mental disabilities, most notably people with cerebral palsy.

'Brainstorm' is offensive now? But we even use that in our drama group and the schools too!

I can't keep up with what is politically correct and what ain't...

I remember hearing about it a few years ago too. No-one really talks about it anymore; it just happened and that was that. It's so weird when something that big quickly falls into public obscurity. Hell, Roberts probably wasn't thinking about it when he chose Brainstorm for MTMTE...

simple. nothing is politically correct.

"Brainstorm generally refers to brainstorming, a group or individual creativity exercise.

The term originally referred to a state of temporary insanity, gaining prominence when it was used in the defense of Harry Kendall Thaw against charges that he murdered prominent architect Stanford White (1907-8)."

While the term may have originated with something less than ideal, it's meaning no longer has any real world relation to that instance.

Carnivius_Prime wrote:'Brainstorm' is offensive now? But we even use that in our drama group and the schools too!

I can't keep up with what is politically correct and what ain't...

I said this was back when I was in primary school. That's the mid 90's. If it ever *was* offensive, which I can't seem to find any record of online, it wasn't a recent thing. Odds are it's dropped back into the "overton window" of being a widely accepted term, and it was a whole lot of hoo-haa.

I don't see the problem with the name myself. And I'm as lefty as they come. I'm even married to someone who has grand-mal epilepsy, who are the people who it's supposed to offend, according to the daily mail (about 8 years ago), and even she calls it brainstorming.

I reiterate: It's not because of the thought police looking to curb people's free speech, it's because Hasbro will want to protect their neck after their previously bad experiences with names like Spastic and Slag.

It's not at thing that people are mad about.

EDIT: I referred to the daily mail up there, here's the article I was alluding to: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1027985/Council-bans-brainstorming-replaces-term-thought-showers--fear-offending-epileptics.html Cliffnotes: One city council banned use of the term because, even against advice, they thought it *might* be offensive. People actually felt patronised that they were considered to be so hair-trigger over a largely outdated term. They issued an apology and changed it back. Daily mail framed it as the usual 'poltical correctness gone mad' stuff they're famous for

Yep. I love the Walgreens one so much. Which is great for me, because it's the only one I'll likely be able to get. (still going to call that headmaster Arcana, though)

Kurona wrote:

DigitalBrave3 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:The Walgreens one has unpainted altmode guns, whereas the SDCC one has them painted gray/silver.

So what!? The G1 toy didn't have those painted as well!

... I mean... yeah, but... it doesn't really matter if the G1 toy had them unpainted, it's still kind of crap.

Also, if I'm remembering this right, them not being painted is also Cartoon accurate.

DigitalBrave3 wrote:

Kurona wrote:

DigitalBrave3 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:The Walgreens one has unpainted altmode guns, whereas the SDCC one has them painted gray/silver.

So what!? The G1 toy didn't have those painted as well!

... I mean... yeah, but... it doesn't really matter if the G1 toy had them unpainted, it's still kind of crap.

Also, if I'm remembering this right, them not being painted is also Cartoon accurate.

Yeah but it still looks crap

Kurona wrote:

DigitalBrave3 wrote:

Kurona wrote:

DigitalBrave3 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:The Walgreens one has unpainted altmode guns, whereas the SDCC one has them painted gray/silver.

So what!? The G1 toy didn't have those painted as well!

... I mean... yeah, but... it doesn't really matter if the G1 toy had them unpainted, it's still kind of crap.

Also, if I'm remembering this right, them not being painted is also Cartoon accurate.

Yeah but it still looks crap

Ya'll are all missing the original point I was making: It's another observed difference between the two versions that no one at the time had yet pointed out.

Here's something, this was posted on the Titans Return thread on The Allspark website, now.....isn't that Unicron in the middle there & does this mean that we could see a TR Unicron toy(i know we're getting a platinum edition one) or even a Primus one

http://67.media.tumblr.com/5aeeac1ecd02 ... 1_1280.jpg

Stuartmaximus wrote:Here's something, this was posted on the Titans Return thread on The Allspark website, now.....isn't that Unicron in the middle there & does this mean that we could see a TR Unicron toy(i know we're getting a platinum edition one) or even a Primus one

http://67.media.tumblr.com/5aeeac1ecd02 ... 1_1280.jpg

No.

If your looking for him in the UK Orbital Comics in London have it as do Kapow Toys.

For the SDCC version go to A1 Toys. They have him as well as SDCC fortress Maximus at very good prices.

MemphisR56 wrote:

Carnivius_Prime wrote:'Brainstorm' is offensive now? But we even use that in our drama group and the schools too!

I can't keep up with what is politically correct and what ain't...

I said this was back when I was in primary school. That's the mid 90's. If it ever *was* offensive, which I can't seem to find any record of online, it wasn't a recent thing. Odds are it's dropped back into the "overton window" of being a widely accepted term, and it was a whole lot of hoo-haa.

I don't see the problem with the name myself. And I'm as lefty as they come. I'm even married to someone who has grand-mal epilepsy, who are the people who it's supposed to offend, according to the daily mail (about 8 years ago), and even she calls it brainstorming.

I reiterate: It's not because of the thought police looking to curb people's free speech, it's because Hasbro will want to protect their neck after their previously bad experiences with names like Spastic and Slag.

It's not at thing that people are mad about.

EDIT: I referred to the daily mail up there, here's the article I was alluding to: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1027985/Council-bans-brainstorming-replaces-term-thought-showers--fear-offending-epileptics.html Cliffnotes: One city council banned use of the term because, even against advice, they thought it *might* be offensive. People actually felt patronised that they were considered to be so hair-trigger over a largely outdated term. They issued an apology and changed it back. Daily mail framed it as the usual 'poltical correctness gone mad' stuff they're famous for

I think this has less to do with being "politically correct" and more like an local company, that has no branches in the US, already owning the trademark there (I originally thought it was the Lego company with their Mindstorm sets). If it was for the sake of PC, the US name would have been changed as well, see "Slug" and "Spastic" (even if the latter was never intended for UK release). Think of "Star Fox" vs. "Starwing", "Star Fox 64" vs. "Lylat Wars", the same principle applies.

Pretty weird, he's the first Transformer since RiD 2001 Midnight Express that had to have his name changed for a local market.

Sabrblade wrote:

Stuartmaximus wrote:Here's something, this was posted on the Titans Return thread on The Allspark website, now.....isn't that Unicron in the middle there & does this mean that we could see a TR Unicron toy(i know we're getting a platinum edition one) or even a Primus one

http://67.media.tumblr.com/5aeeac1ecd02 ... 1_1280.jpg

No.

That's a rather abrupt answer! seeing as part of the inscription would indicate something along the lines of Seek The 13! now YES it could refer to the 13 planets or it could also refer to 13 NEW figures coming in the 3rd part of the Prime Wars, & even your hindsight isn't THAT accurate as to determine who those may be?(which could....for all we know?....indeed include Unicron & Primus....highly unlikely i know...but none of us have any concrete information as to what's coming then).

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

MemphisR56 wrote:

Carnivius_Prime wrote:'Brainstorm' is offensive now? But we even use that in our drama group and the schools too!

I can't keep up with what is politically correct and what ain't...

I said this was back when I was in primary school. That's the mid 90's. If it ever *was* offensive, which I can't seem to find any record of online, it wasn't a recent thing. Odds are it's dropped back into the "overton window" of being a widely accepted term, and it was a whole lot of hoo-haa.

I don't see the problem with the name myself. And I'm as lefty as they come. I'm even married to someone who has grand-mal epilepsy, who are the people who it's supposed to offend, according to the daily mail (about 8 years ago), and even she calls it brainstorming.

I reiterate: It's not because of the thought police looking to curb people's free speech, it's because Hasbro will want to protect their neck after their previously bad experiences with names like Spastic and Slag.

It's not at thing that people are mad about.

EDIT: I referred to the daily mail up there, here's the article I was alluding to: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1027985/Council-bans-brainstorming-replaces-term-thought-showers--fear-offending-epileptics.html Cliffnotes: One city council banned use of the term because, even against advice, they thought it *might* be offensive. People actually felt patronised that they were considered to be so hair-trigger over a largely outdated term. They issued an apology and changed it back. Daily mail framed it as the usual 'poltical correctness gone mad' stuff they're famous for

I think this has less to do with being "politically correct" and more like an local company, that has no branches in the US, already owning the trademark there (I originally thought it was the Lego company with their Mindstorm sets). If it was for the sake of PC, the US name would have been changed as well, see "Slug" and "Spastic" (even if the latter was never intended for UK release). Think of "Star Fox" vs. "Starwing", "Star Fox 64" vs. "Lylat Wars", the same principle applies.

Pretty weird, he's the first Transformer since RiD 2001 Midnight Express that had to have his name changed for a local market.

I think you're right here. A quick flex of the google muscles and it turns out th UK trademark for Brainstorm in relation to toys and games is for a series of sciency edu-tainment toys.


http://www.brainstormltd.co.uk

Stuartmaximus wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Stuartmaximus wrote:Here's something, this was posted on the Titans Return thread on The Allspark website, now.....isn't that Unicron in the middle there & does this mean that we could see a TR Unicron toy(i know we're getting a platinum edition one) or even a Primus one

http://67.media.tumblr.com/5aeeac1ecd02 ... 1_1280.jpg

No.

That's a rather abrupt answer! seeing as part of the inscription would indicate something along the lines of Seek The 13! now YES it could refer to the 13 planets or it could also refer to 13 NEW figures coming in the 3rd part of the Prime Wars, & even your hindsight isn't THAT accurate as to determine who those may be?(which could....for all we know?....indeed include Unicron & Primus....highly unlikely i know...but none of us have any concrete information as to what's coming then).

"Seek the Thirteen" likely refers to the Thirteen Primes. And we're already getting a Unicron in the Platinum Edition line. And we know that only one Titan class figure is done per year, with this year's being Fortress Maximus and next year's being Trypticon, and with Omega Supreme and Scorponok also likely in the pipeline given their inclusion in the poll that picked Trypticon to be the next one.

Besides, that Unicron seen in the middle there is a really old piece of artwork from way back in 2003. It's stock art, nothing new.

Sabrblade wrote:

Stuartmaximus wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Stuartmaximus wrote:Here's something, this was posted on the Titans Return thread on The Allspark website, now.....isn't that Unicron in the middle there & does this mean that we could see a TR Unicron toy(i know we're getting a platinum edition one) or even a Primus one

http://67.media.tumblr.com/5aeeac1ecd02 ... 1_1280.jpg

No.

That's a rather abrupt answer! seeing as part of the inscription would indicate something along the lines of Seek The 13! now YES it could refer to the 13 planets or it could also refer to 13 NEW figures coming in the 3rd part of the Prime Wars, & even your hindsight isn't THAT accurate as to determine who those may be?(which could....for all we know?....indeed include Unicron & Primus....highly unlikely i know...but none of us have any concrete information as to what's coming then).

"Seek the Thirteen" likely refers to the Thirteen Primes. And we're already getting a Unicron in the Platinum Edition line. And we know that only one Titan class figure is done per year, with this year's being Fortress Maximus and next year's being Trypticon, and with Omega Supreme and Scorponok also likely in the pipeline given their inclusion in the poll that picked Trypticon to be the next one.

Besides, that Unicron seen in the middle there is a really old piece of artwork from way back in 2003. It's stock art, nothing new.

Aye, true i s'pose, that for the forseeable future we're getting those Titan Class figures, but btw that Platinum is just a reissued figure! nothing newly made! as for beyond the forseeable future....it would've been nice to have got a NEW Unicron & Primus(i mean....who wouldn't wanna see a newly designed Unicron & Primus? something along the lines that they're gonna be doing with these Titan Class figures over the coming years).

Keep your patience, we'll get the planet-formers one day...just not now.

Just to say, but there being a Platinum edition of a figure doesn't mean we aren't getting a new version anytime soon. For instance, just this year we've gotten or are getting both a Platinum and a TR version of Galvatron, Blurr, Megatron, Optimus, Hot Rod and Scourge; not to mention the all-but-confirmed rumour of a new Kup in TR Wave 4 and us just getting a Cyclonus, Megatron and Optimus last line.

Kurona wrote:Just to say, but there being a Platinum edition of a figure doesn't mean we aren't getting a new version anytime soon. For instance, just this year we've gotten or are getting both a Platinum and a TR version of Galvatron, Blurr, Megatron, Optimus, Hot Rod and Scourge; not to mention the all-but-confirmed rumour of a new Kup in TR Wave 4 and us just getting a Cyclonus, Megatron and Optimus last line.

And there was Platinum Trypticon, and he's getting a new toy next year...

Sigma Magnus wrote:

Kurona wrote:Just to say, but there being a Platinum edition of a figure doesn't mean we aren't getting a new version anytime soon. For instance, just this year we've gotten or are getting both a Platinum and a TR version of Galvatron, Blurr, Megatron, Optimus, Hot Rod and Scourge; not to mention the all-but-confirmed rumour of a new Kup in TR Wave 4 and us just getting a Cyclonus, Megatron and Optimus last line.

And there was Platinum Trypticon, and he's getting a new toy next year...

That's true, but I'm meaning more Platinum and Generations releases close to each other in release. A character getting another new toy a year or two after release is nothing new. But Blurr literally getting a Platinum toy and a Titans Return toy around the same time?

Stuartmaximus wrote:Here's something, this was posted on the Titans Return thread on The Allspark website, now.....isn't that Unicron in the middle there & does this mean that we could see a TR Unicron toy(i know we're getting a platinum edition one) or even a Primus one

http://67.media.tumblr.com/5aeeac1ecd02 ... 1_1280.jpg

Unicron was also on the poster for last year's SDCC Combiner Hunters set, don't read anything into it.

Emerje

I'm not sure if Hasbro intends to "Clarify" how Titan Masters are supposed to work as they are giving out mixed messages upon my casual viewing of it.

I still don't know if Titan's Returns are neo-tectors by some random mini-robot (most of who we have never heard of) wearing the robots we have heard of like a skin suit.

or if they are like the headmasters (us version) and the robot in the robot and the head performs some vague (and mostly non-specified) performance upgrade to said robot.

The thing that adds so much confusion is the blurbs talk about controlling the titan masters and talks about Titans in the manner they talked about say Devsatator or even any combiner in Combiner Wars.

Yet the implication actually is that a Titan master isn't mastering any titans at all it's just some ill-defined upgrade for pretty ordinary Transformers.. this leaves me very confused indeed.

Maybe they should have said the Titan-Master upgrades reconfigured their bodies and allowed the propensity of Triple changing or something.

But I admit I'm completely confused - even more so by the titan Master mini-figure Plus mini-vehicle sets.

As a play pattern from a purely toy perspective they make some sense I guess - but as a story - they seem incomprehensible and contradictory to me.

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Oh and the Brainstorm I like best is the G1 toy colour teal one.

I wouldn't mind to much if Arcee is a Chromedome remould - but a straight repaint would be weird.

I'm pretty sick of that "Stunticon" transformation pattern though and wish it was retired - going forwards. It was a useful trick one or twice - but when nearly every car they make has the same Transformation it soon gets really boring.

I'm gonna leave this here:

I'm slightly worried by Terribull's blue plastic. It's got a very present metallic swirl, and it seems to have that same sort of texture as ye gold plastic of yore.

Are there any recorded cases of blue plastic syndrome?

To clarify, this is just a gut feeling, I haven't had him chip or break or anything. In fact he's solid as a rock, and his detail is really crisp and clean. He's my favourite of the wave 1 heads. Just wondered if someone else had the same concerns.

MemphisR56 wrote:I'm slightly worried by Terribull's blue plastic. It's got a very present metallic swirl, and it seems to have that same sort of texture as ye gold plastic of yore.

Are there any recorded cases of blue plastic syndrome?

To clarify, this is just a gut feeling, I haven't had him chip or break or anything. In fact he's solid as a rock, and his detail is really crisp and clean. He's my favourite of the wave 1 heads. Just wondered if someone else had the same concerns.

You're not the only one with this worry, but I can safely tell you there have been no recorded cases that I know of, of figures with such plastic of any color other than gold breaking from the 90's on.

Back in the 80's it was a whole different story tho. Figures in that era, like Diaclone and Popy toys (those Japanese robot toys) often had metallic blue plastic and tended to crumble much like how GPS-ridden plastic does. That variety is called "Popy Disease", and at least one Transformer would have suffered from it, had it not switched to plain blue plastic: Thundercracker. His Diaclone predecessor, F-15 Robo Acrobat Type, breaks easily in the wings.

I'm just providing background info here, I don't mean to scare anyone. I do have to remind everyone that Hasbro has taken steps to prevent GPS, and that should extent to other colors as well. Again, no recorded cases of metallic plastic in colors other than gold breaking since the 90's.

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