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In-Hand Comparison of Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-40 and MP-28 Hot Rodimus

Transformers News: In-Hand Comparison of Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-40 and MP-28 Hot Rodimus

Saturday, February 24th, 2018 4:24AM CST

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Thanks to a tip from fellow Seibertronian Cyberpath, we have a couple more in-hand images of Takara Tomy's latest figure in the Transformers Masterpiece line compared to a previous iteration of the same character (and mold, really): MP-40 Targetmaster Hot Rodimus with Targetmaster Firebolt, joined my MP-28 Hot Rodimus.

This set below, via Japanese toy bloggers Alfes2010 and Kazumasa_yskn, is to be enjoyed accompanied by the previous batch of images reported on here! You can see there are a couple of differences, especially the darker hue of the latest version of the character - but are they enough to make you double dip, or were you waiting for this version anyway? Let us know in the Energon Pub discussion boards!


Transformers News: In-Hand Comparison of Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-40 and MP-28 Hot Rodimus

Transformers News: In-Hand Comparison of Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-40 and MP-28 Hot Rodimus

Transformers News: In-Hand Comparison of Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-40 and MP-28 Hot Rodimus

Transformers News: In-Hand Comparison of Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-40 and MP-28 Hot Rodimus

Transformers News: In-Hand Comparison of Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-40 and MP-28 Hot Rodimus

Transformers News: In-Hand Comparison of Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-40 and MP-28 Hot Rodimus
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Re: In-Hand Comparison of Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-40 and MP-28 Hot Rodimus (1942056)
Posted by DMSL on February 24th, 2018 @ 4:40am CST
Looks nice, but i already have the first one so i will pass on this. I hope they fixed the clearance issue in carmode. Having a carmode that can't roll is a little silly.
Re: In-Hand Comparison of Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-40 and MP-28 Hot Rodimus (1942139)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on February 24th, 2018 @ 1:54pm CST
It looks like from these pics Roddy can hold Firebolt fine. Unless they changed the mold from the US MP09 release
Re: In-Hand Comparison of Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-40 and MP-28 Hot Rodimus (1942149)
Posted by dragons on February 24th, 2018 @ 2:55pm CST
Something always wanted to know since Takara made hotrod master piece figure solo will they release new rodimus figure solo ?
Re: In-Hand Comparison of Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-40 and MP-28 Hot Rodimus (1942171)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on February 24th, 2018 @ 4:42pm CST
My only complaint about the TM version is the white on the crotch piece. If it was orange or burgundy like the rest of it, it would be fine. Otherwise, MP-40 looks better than MP-28 color scheme wise.
Re: In-Hand Comparison of Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-40 and MP-28 Hot Rodimus (1942210)
Posted by Ultra Markus on February 24th, 2018 @ 6:48pm CST
its a bit funny that takara that has this target master Hotrod when Hotrod was never a targetmaster in the japanese only Headmasters show only ended up being Rodimus Prime again
but still a nice rendition though ;)^
Re: In-Hand Comparison of Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-40 and MP-28 Hot Rodimus (1942225)
Posted by bvzxa on February 24th, 2018 @ 7:43pm CST
chuckdawg1999 wrote:It looks like from these pics Roddy can hold Firebolt fine. Unless they changed the mold from the US MP09 release


MP-9 is the old style of the mold. He is waay larger than MP-28/MP-40
Re: In-Hand Comparison of Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-40 and MP-28 Hot Rodimus (1942231)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on February 24th, 2018 @ 8:53pm CST
bvzxa wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:It looks like from these pics Roddy can hold Firebolt fine. Unless they changed the mold from the US MP09 release


MP-9 is the old style of the mold. He is waay larger than MP-28/MP-40
I think chuck was talking about the Targetmaster. Looks like he's just a repaint of Offshoot from the TRU MP Rodimus Prime release.
Re: In-Hand Comparison of Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-40 and MP-28 Hot Rodimus (1942232)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on February 24th, 2018 @ 9:00pm CST
bvzxa wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:It looks like from these pics Roddy can hold Firebolt fine. Unless they changed the mold from the US MP09 release


MP-9 is the old style of the mold. He is waay larger than MP-28/MP-40


He meant Firebolt, which was originally a Hasbro add-on for their release of MP-9, sans trailer:

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Transformers Masterpiece Offshoot Gallery

And from the looks of it, his grip has been retooled:

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That's the original, don't want to hot link anything from Alfes.
Re: In-Hand Comparison of Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-40 and MP-28 Hot Rodimus (1942253)
Posted by Sabrblade on February 24th, 2018 @ 10:29pm CST
Rodimus Prime wrote:My only complaint about the TM version is the white on the crotch piece. If it was orange or burgundy like the rest of it, it would be fine. Otherwise, MP-40 looks better than MP-28 color scheme wise.
We have AKOM to thank for that, with their tendency to misinterpret Hot Rod's crotch piece as being his car mode's windshield:

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Re: In-Hand Comparison of Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-40 and MP-28 Hot Rodimus (1942305)
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on February 25th, 2018 @ 2:15am CST
Still looks pretty poor. Not keen on the burgundy colour (that should be solely for Rodimus Prime, not his Hot Rod persona) and that highlight attempt on the legs just doesn't work.

If only we could buy the Targetmasters seperately. They're so much better at looking like decent guns that the crummy mis-use of the Pretenders in PotP.
Re: In-Hand Comparison of Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-40 and MP-28 Hot Rodimus (1942327)
Posted by Cyberpath on February 25th, 2018 @ 6:15am CST
Sabrblade wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:My only complaint about the TM version is the white on the crotch piece. If it was orange or burgundy like the rest of it, it would be fine. Otherwise, MP-40 looks better than MP-28 color scheme wise.
We have AKOM to thank for that, with their tendency to misinterpret Hot Rod's crotch piece as being his car mode's windshield:

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I don't think that AKOM misinterpreted Hot Rod's pelvis though, they were just working off the colour guides that Sunbow had supplied them (usually outdated ones compared to TOEI, and to the other studio in season 2.) I don't think that AKOM came up with their own decos. Perhaps this implies that at some point in the design-process Hot Rod's windshield area transformed into his pelvis.

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Preliminary Rodimus Prime model cel.


The "unknown studio" received even older models for some of the characters in season 3 (Starscream's Ghost; Only Human.)
Re: In-Hand Comparison of Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-40 and MP-28 Hot Rodimus (1942443)
Posted by Solrac333 on February 25th, 2018 @ 6:49pm CST
I like the colors on the new one a LOT more than the original. Since I already have the first one, I will not double dip anymore. I had to do that with Quakewave and Transistor.
Re: In-Hand Comparison of Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-40 and MP-28 Hot Rodimus (1942656)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on February 26th, 2018 @ 4:40pm CST
Love Love Loving this!
Re: In-Hand Comparison of Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-40 and MP-28 Hot Rodimus (1942996)
Posted by Va'al on February 28th, 2018 @ 1:06am CST
Fellow Seibertronian chuckdawg1999, speedy as ever, has shared with us a new video review, this time focusing on the latest release in the Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece line - that is to say, MP-40 Targetmaster Hot Rodimus with Firebolt!

The figure is shown next to the previous version of the mold, MP-28 Hot Rodimus, to get a better idea of the new deco, other differences, and in both robot and vehicle mode, along with the different accessories, Targetmaster included. You can check out the video embedded below, and join the discussion in the Energon Pub!

Targetmaster Hot Rodimus is a strange figure, based on its appearance in The Rebirth mini-series that ended the G1 cartoon in the US. Most fans consider the color pallet used a mistake but I quite like it as it differentiates pre and post Rodimus Prime Hot Rod. While I can't say it's a definite purchase, the inclusion of Firebolt from the Hasbro US release MP-09, makes this figure worth a look.


Re: In-Hand Comparison of Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-40 and MP-28 Hot Rodimus (1943320)
Posted by ScottyP on March 2nd, 2018 @ 5:56am CST
So with this out I was reminded of something about the mold when I needed to use the instructions to reference a small point. Namely, if you follow the included instructions verbatim, you're going to have a tougher time than you should transforming the backpack. Instead of having no fun at all, I've prepared a tutorial on an alternate transformation sequence that is much easier and importantly, more fun. I put this up on Twitter last night and figured I should mirror the content here for the enjoyment of those not on one of the machines leading to society's downfall.

Let's do this!

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Text of what to do is right below the corresponding image. This one's just saying hey, here's the robot guy! He says to follow your instructions for the part where you start with the car until the point a bit after you've folded out the hands.

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You're going to get to a step that looks like this. This is where you should throw your instructions in the trash! Ok don't do that, you'll need them later.

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The first thing you should do here is reverse that decision it had you make to fold down the collar pieces. Trust me here, do this (unless you have tiny hands, and I mean teeny tiny. Because I have tiny hands.)

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Now undo the two halves of the car roof on that pivot joint. Note the small hole on the front half towards the rear of the windshield. We're about to use that hole.

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Leave the shoulders alone! Remember, we're ignoring Takara's instructions. Go ahead and plug in the back of the neck to the windshield. You may have to wiggle some stuff near the waist to get it aligned right. Also, this is where you'll find out if you transformed his head correctly. Hope you did, I'm not covering that.

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Now for the reason this is actually better! This is where you plug the shoulders in to the side of the windshield. Note the backpack out of the way. You'll have clearance to get your fingers in there to secure a tight fit. I know what I said. You took it there, not me. ;)^

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Once both shoulder panels are clipped into the sides of the window, you can put the collar pieces back down.

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If you stare really hard you'll notice this photo skips ahead a touch. That's because I originally didn't push the collar pieces down far enough and took a picture later on which I cropped instead of undoing things. Regardless, push them down as far as they need to. They'll go, but be careful. You shouldn't have to push too hard.

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Now start assembling the backpack. I think you see what to do here, but refer to the instructions for the details of this if needed.

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Now fold the pivot joint down through the vertical clearance. If you're keeping score, the instructions have you do this well before now. Bad instructions, bad!

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Almost done here. Aim for these two posts in his tramp stamp region. It's a technical term. Yep.

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Kapowee! You just sold a car.


Not really but now you can go back to your official instruction manual for the legs. Hope that helps you have more fun with Transformers :D
Re: In-Hand Comparison of Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-40 and MP-28 Hot Rodimus (1943407)
Posted by Gambitgreen on March 2nd, 2018 @ 5:42pm CST
Have we any information at all as to the next G1 masterpiece release?
Re: In-Hand Comparison of Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-40 and MP-28 Hot Rodimus (1943419)
Posted by Emerje on March 2nd, 2018 @ 8:49pm CST
Gambitgreen wrote:Have we any information at all as to the next G1 masterpiece release?

Not officially announced, but we know from the design team that Trailbreaker and Hoist are being worked on.

Emerje
Re: In-Hand Comparison of Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-40 and MP-28 Hot Rodimus (1943431)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on March 2nd, 2018 @ 10:40pm CST
Emerje wrote:
Gambitgreen wrote:Have we any information at all as to the next G1 masterpiece release?

Not officially announced, but we know from the design team that Trailbreaker and Hoist are being worked on.

Emerje


Optibotimus once said to look at 3rd party companies and what they're making to see what the next MP might be. With that said I'm putting my money on a Super Ginrai.
Re: In-Hand Comparison of Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-40 and MP-28 Hot Rodimus (1943436)
Posted by Emerje on March 2nd, 2018 @ 11:10pm CST
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Emerje wrote:
Gambitgreen wrote:Have we any information at all as to the next G1 masterpiece release?

Not officially announced, but we know from the design team that Trailbreaker and Hoist are being worked on.

Emerje


Optibotimus once said to look at 3rd party companies and what they're making to see what the next MP might be. With that said I'm putting my money on a Super Ginrai.

I think we're a few years away from a Super Ginrai announcement since they've had fans investing a lot in the Legends versions. Plus with BW Dinobot coming this summer and Beast Megatron expected to be announced soon, probably for the winter, we need to fill the smaller MP new mold quota for 2018.

Emerje
Re: In-Hand Comparison of Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-40 and MP-28 Hot Rodimus (1943463)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on March 3rd, 2018 @ 2:10am CST
Emerje wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Emerje wrote:
Gambitgreen wrote:Have we any information at all as to the next G1 masterpiece release?

Not officially announced, but we know from the design team that Trailbreaker and Hoist are being worked on.

Emerje


Optibotimus once said to look at 3rd party companies and what they're making to see what the next MP might be. With that said I'm putting my money on a Super Ginrai.

I think we're a few years away from a Super Ginrai announcement since they've had fans investing a lot in the Legends versions. Plus with BW Dinobot coming this summer and Beast Megatron expected to be announced soon, probably for the winter, we need to fill the smaller MP new mold quota for 2018.

Emerje


Victory Lio?
Re: In-Hand Comparison of Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-40 and MP-28 Hot Rodimus (1943466)
Posted by Emerje on March 3rd, 2018 @ 2:32am CST
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Emerje wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Emerje wrote:
Gambitgreen wrote:Have we any information at all as to the next G1 masterpiece release?

Not officially announced, but we know from the design team that Trailbreaker and Hoist are being worked on.

Emerje


Optibotimus once said to look at 3rd party companies and what they're making to see what the next MP might be. With that said I'm putting my money on a Super Ginrai.

I think we're a few years away from a Super Ginrai announcement since they've had fans investing a lot in the Legends versions. Plus with BW Dinobot coming this summer and Beast Megatron expected to be announced soon, probably for the winter, we need to fill the smaller MP new mold quota for 2018.

Emerje


Victory Lio?

Wouldn't MP Victory Leo be a rather massive figure in his own right? I'm thinking only an inch shorter than Star Saber. As much as I look forward to them making him so day, this isn't his year.

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Emerje
Re: In-Hand Comparison of Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-40 and MP-28 Hot Rodimus (1943497)
Posted by Sabrblade on March 3rd, 2018 @ 9:55am CST
Yeah, Victory Leo is a BIG character. Star Saber alone was Combiner-sized in the cartoon. Victory Leo was about the same mass as Star Saber.
Re: In-Hand Comparison of Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-40 and MP-28 Hot Rodimus (1943652)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on March 3rd, 2018 @ 8:11pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:Yeah, Victory Leo is a BIG character. Star Saber alone was Combiner-sized in cartoon. Victory Leo was about the same mass as Star Saber.


I was just going with what I was hoping for. I guess any longer they'll have to re-issue Star Saber around the same time. Is Cliffjumper a possibility?
Re: In-Hand Comparison of Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-40 and MP-28 Hot Rodimus (1943963)
Posted by ScottyP on March 5th, 2018 @ 9:32am CST
There's a third party MP Victory Leo and yes, it is huge. If they make an official one they're going to have to rework some things on Star Saber because the joints on that toy cannot support the weight of the Victory Saber backpack. Sure, KFC could have made their version a little lighter, but I'm not certain how much it really would have helped.
Re: In-Hand Comparison of Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-40 and MP-28 Hot Rodimus (1943964)
Posted by Sabrblade on March 5th, 2018 @ 9:36am CST
ScottyP wrote:There's a third party MP Victory Leo and yes, it is huge. If they make an official one they're going to have to rework some things on Star Saber because the joints on that toy cannot support the weight of the Victory Saber backpack. Sure, KFC could have made their version a little lighter, but I'm not certain how much it really would have helped.
I wonder if it would be possible for Takara to try to make Victory Leo as lightweight as possible, since when the two combine in the cartoon, Victory Leo seems to lose a lot of his mass when in backpack form, as the animation model of the backpack seen during the combination sequence looks quite thin (but not unreasonably thin).
Re: In-Hand Comparison of Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-40 and MP-28 Hot Rodimus (1943971)
Posted by ScottyP on March 5th, 2018 @ 9:46am CST
Sabrblade wrote:
ScottyP wrote:There's a third party MP Victory Leo and yes, it is huge. If they make an official one they're going to have to rework some things on Star Saber because the joints on that toy cannot support the weight of the Victory Saber backpack. Sure, KFC could have made their version a little lighter, but I'm not certain how much it really would have helped.
I wonder if it would be possible for Takara to try to make Victory Leo as lightweight as possible, since when the two combine in the cartoon, Victory Leo seems to lose a lot of his mass when in backpack form, as the animation model of the backpack seen during the combination sequence looks quite thin (but not unreasonably thin).
There could be some magic in there, but MP Star Saber's knees and hips just don't like much else for back weight. Maybe some knee joints with a locking mechanism or even a new Saber made of diecast to function as a counterweight would help. Either way I do hope they do something that works better, because outside of using a stand there's not a great way to display the current option for MP Victory Saber so I keep them separated.
Re: In-Hand Comparison of Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-40 and MP-28 Hot Rodimus (1945362)
Posted by shajaki on March 10th, 2018 @ 10:52pm CST
So I've finally gotten around to played around with Targety Rodders! And took pictures of the affair!

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How do I feel about him? Mmmmmmm.... mixed.
If you recall, I'm a huge Hotrod fanboy, and the new MP mold is among my top 3 MP's. Obviously the "animation error" color scheme is weird, but I can forgive it. However... after handling the brand new MP Targetmaster that came with Artfire, I feel reviving that old Offshoot(?) mold was just flat out lazy. I don't want to imply that he is flat out TRASH, but he is certainly dated compared to fresh work.
Re: In-Hand Comparison of Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-40 and MP-28 Hot Rodimus (1946958)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on March 18th, 2018 @ 8:15pm CDT
Does MP-40 have the visor? I could have swore I saw an image with him having it, but then I haven't seen it again since
Re: In-Hand Comparison of Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-40 and MP-28 Hot Rodimus (1947100)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on March 19th, 2018 @ 12:42pm CDT
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Does MP-40 have the visor? I could have swore I saw an image with him having it, but then I haven't seen it again since


Yes it does but this time it's clear plastic.
Re: In-Hand Comparison of Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-40 and MP-28 Hot Rodimus (1960838)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 21st, 2018 @ 8:41pm CDT
Bringing this thread back up since I finally got my MP-40, and it is pretty sweet! I really like the colors, even if they are a bit all over the place and loud. And the transformation is pretty fun, almost something like I would expect from a voyager or leader figure actually. He's like MP-12 with the sort of simplicity that is still fun and productive.

I am not a fan of the grips for the weapons though. He cannot hold his weapons perfectly straight since they do not want to go into the grips in his hands. But other than that, he is fantastic, and I cannot wait to mess around with him some more!

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Re: In-Hand Comparison of Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-40 and MP-28 Hot Rodimus (1996641)
Posted by william-james88 on December 2nd, 2018 @ 2:25pm CST
I cant tell, are the faces and eyes colored differently from MP 28 to MP 40?
Re: In-Hand Comparison of Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-40 and MP-28 Hot Rodimus (2086865)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on November 14th, 2020 @ 6:42pm CST
So MP-40. This was a figure I've nearly sold several times. Just haven't liked it. But, I got him a saw weapon from MP-28, and it is amazing how much 1 accessory can change an opinion. This is now a great figure I enjoy.

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Re: In-Hand Comparison of Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-40 and MP-28 Hot Rodimus (2086873)
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on November 14th, 2020 @ 7:12pm CST
So I guess with that one little accessory, you finally saw value in him? ;)
Re: In-Hand Comparison of Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-40 and MP-28 Hot Rodimus (2086875)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on November 14th, 2020 @ 7:14pm CST
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:So I guess with that one little accessory, you finally saw value in him? ;)

It finally meant i had fun with him. The mold certainly is not on par with my other MPs, but the saw made it more fun and worth it. I've had him for almost 3 years, so it finally hit that point where it was fun to have and play with
Re: In-Hand Comparison of Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-40 and MP-28 Hot Rodimus (2086884)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on November 14th, 2020 @ 8:10pm CST
The white part on his waist/crotch area (even if screen accurate) was a turn off for me. That's why I got MP-28 instead. (You're welcome for the saw, btw. :-D )
Re: In-Hand Comparison of Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-40 and MP-28 Hot Rodimus (2086887)
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on November 14th, 2020 @ 8:16pm CST
Ah yes, the white that comes from insistence on precisely duplicating the AKOM color layout warts and all, including coloring Hot Rod's crotch as if it was the top part of his windshield (which is how it was in Dery's first draft of his design).

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:So I guess with that one little accessory, you finally saw value in him? ;)

It finally meant i had fun with him. The mold certainly is not on par with my other MPs, but the saw made it more fun and worth it. I've had him for almost 3 years, so it finally hit that point where it was fun to have and play with
Well, I'm glad you're finally enjoying him. Although I'm wondering now if my pun was too subtle.
Re: In-Hand Comparison of Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-40 and MP-28 Hot Rodimus (2086890)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on November 14th, 2020 @ 8:36pm CST
Rodimus Prime wrote:The white part on his waist/crotch area (even if screen accurate) was a turn off for me. That's why I got MP-28 instead. (You're welcome for the saw, btw. :-D )

I am very thankful for that saw! It ignited my enjoyment for this figure at last.
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:I'm wondering now if my pun was too subtle.

I only just now saw it.
Re: In-Hand Comparison of Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-40 and MP-28 Hot Rodimus (2086972)
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on November 16th, 2020 @ 12:12am CST
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:The white part on his waist/crotch area (even if screen accurate) was a turn off for me. That's why I got MP-28 instead. (You're welcome for the saw, btw. :-D )

I am very thankful for that saw! It ignited my enjoyment for this figure at last.
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:I'm wondering now if my pun was too subtle.

I only just now saw it.
Ba-dum-tsh!

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