In Package Images of Earthrise Clone and Seeker 2 packs

Very cool, as far as the existence. Not very cool regarding the pricing. I'll be getting both once they hit retail.

If memory serves, didn't the same thing happen with the Rainmakers and then they released like a week later?

It's easy to tell them apart when you compare what's between their legs.

Sentinel_Primal wrote:If memory serves, didn't the same thing happen with the Rainmakers and then they released like a week later?

Yup, we'll see what happens this time.

Deathsanras wrote:It's easy to tell them apart when you compare what's between their legs.

Might be better when they're transformed correctly, I think that white part should fold again to be on the back.

I like how these are following the Cyberverse toyline by adding that "Cybertronian villains" label to the boxes.

Deathsanras wrote:It's easy to tell them apart when you compare what's between their legs.

Teehee.

Deathsanras wrote:It's easy to tell them apart when you compare what's between their legs.

*gives a playful punch*

I'm gonna wait until the Autobot Clones are announced... or if I can find the original TR boxsets for cheap... or find a way to sell off extras... ARGH!

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Deathsanras wrote:It's easy to tell them apart when you compare what's between their legs.

*gives a playful punch*

I'm gonna wait until the Autobot Clones are announced... or if I can find the original TR boxsets for cheap... or find a way to sell off extras... ARGH!

I'm just going to wait for Pounce to start showing up individually on eBay for cheap because I guarantee these will shelfwarm. Personally, I would have wanted the two-pack to just be Pounce and Fastlane, and perhaps a rerelease of Wingspan and Cloudraker.

Also, are these the Takara variants? Because I swear the purple parts are pink on the Hasbro releases.

Decepticon Stryker wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Deathsanras wrote:It's easy to tell them apart when you compare what's between their legs.

*gives a playful punch*

I'm gonna wait until the Autobot Clones are announced... or if I can find the original TR boxsets for cheap... or find a way to sell off extras... ARGH!

I'm just going to wait for Pounce to start showing up individually on eBay for cheap because I guarantee these will shelfwarm. Personally, I would have wanted the two-pack to just be Pounce and Fastlane, and perhaps a rerelease of Wingspan and Cloudraker.

Also, are these the Takara variants? Because I swear the purple parts are pink on the Hasbro releases.

At least based on the Takara ones.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I like how these are following the Cyberverse toyline by adding that "Cybertronian villains" label to the boxes.

I was wondering where that phrase came from. I was a little worried "Decepticon" was being phased out, but I guess it's just a good way to group Decepticons, Predacons, Quintessons, etc. together.

Wonder if we'll see the seeker set in the UK. Could use a size upgrade from my old classics toys

M74 Bass wrote:Wonder if we'll see the seeker set in the UK. Could use a size upgrade from my old classics toys

While I wouldn't hold out any hope for it to appear in retail, I'd suspect either Kapow or In Demand Toys to get ahold of it somehow. That is unless Symths nab it for themselves...

ZeroWolf wrote:

M74 Bass wrote:Wonder if we'll see the seeker set in the UK. Could use a size upgrade from my old classics toys

While I wouldn't hold out any hope for it to appear in retail, I'd suspect either Kapow or In Demand Toys to get ahold of it somehow. That is unless Symths nab it for themselves...

They are keeping Europe in mind, if the packaging is anything to go by. Now the world's standard including the US, with 25 languages in total.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:

M74 Bass wrote:Wonder if we'll see the seeker set in the UK. Could use a size upgrade from my old classics toys

While I wouldn't hold out any hope for it to appear in retail, I'd suspect either Kapow or In Demand Toys to get ahold of it somehow. That is unless Symths nab it for themselves...

They are keeping Europe in mind, if the packaging is anything to go by. Now the world's standard including the US, with 25 languages in total.

Let's hope. I thought the same for the rainmaker pack but that was almost impossible to find. Kapow and In Demand are pretty good at getting some target exclusives though thanks

These have map pieces, that upends a few theories about how future waves are being spread out between classes. Unless they're duplicates which just supports a whole different set of theories.

Emerje

Already splurged on Takara's 2-pack at the end of TR, and have the Hasbro pair, so I'd be more inclined to get these if they had a 3rd deco: namely their Rebirth colors, with gold faces. And I don't even like The Rebirth (my opinion has never been clouded by nostalgia blinders), but I'd definitely end up buying them if they'd tried for Sunbow accuracy.

As is, if Target clearances them down far enough, I might get a pair to customize. I bought all those other upgrades for the other 4 pair of TR Clones that I haven't even gotten around to applying yet.

Emerje wrote:These have map pieces, that upends a few theories about how future waves are being spread out between classes. Unless they're duplicates which just supports a whole different set of theories.

Emerje

Or side story expansions.

Prime vs Prime got ER Scorponok and reviewed it.

youtube.com/watch?v=BhOw4TUi89s

I can not wait to get this figure!

Greetings Seibertronians! Fellow Seibertron user, LinaNui has informed us that fellow Seibertron user and toy reviewer, PrimeVsPrime, has posted a new video review of none other then the forthcoming Titan Class figure from Earthrise, Scorponok! This much anticipated figure is the last of the city bots to be visited in titan class form. While in the old toy, Scorponok's head was the same size as the normal head master figures, this time, he's been approached the same as his rival, Fortress Maximus. This means Scorponok's head turns into another robot with a titan master forming that head in turn.


Check out the review below and sound out your thoughts in the Energon Pub and stay tuned to Seibertron for all the latest news and reviews!

He really looks impressive.

WOW! I'm thoroughly impressed! He looks very solid and detailed, and the paint is sharp all around. The base mode is crap, but I don't care because mine will never see it. Scorpion mode is okay, but personally I buy Titans for their imposing robot modes. I think it's great that his visor can be removed and he actually has optics underneath. My only complaint is that the back ends of his claws are too long. I know it's for attaching the shield, but it looks like it might get in the way of posing. And I was hoping that he would have actual separated toes instead of 1 block for a foot, and that they would be purple, not gray. Otherwise, this is a home run. He seems to be shorter than TR Maximus, but that might just make him perfectly in scale with G1 Fort Max. I'm definitely getting this figure when it comes out.

I have the G1 Scorponok original and he's one of my favorite. This Titan don't disappoint. The most amazing is how they managed the scorpion legs storage to make them disappear. Simple yet effective. However, WHERE IS HIS BIG GUN? That's missing. I also know Full-Tilt will be available separately. But for his main hand gun and maybe the radar dishes for city mode, a 3P upgrade kit will be pretty much mandatory.
Regardless of it's faults (and the obvious hollow parts) is a sure buy for me.

He doesn't need the gun. It was awkward for the original toy to have it as well.

Rodimus Prime wrote:He doesn't need the gun. It was awkward for the original toy to have it as well.

As a fan and owner of the G1 original, I don't agree at all. Sure, holding it was awkward but it's just a nice touch of overkill.

Plus the G1 big gun split in two and act as towers for the city mode and that's genius.

Preordered mine from amazon with discount a while back, hoping the savings can go to an upgrade set for him.

The non splayable fixed legs are crap and doesn't look like they can be upgraded easily or if at all. Base modes lacking a lot of the orange bits and bobs (even if g1s lift was unusable). Robot mode- if the chrome bits can attach to legs instead of the pretty poor looking shield it might be better.

Def needs his other shoulder guns preferably pivoting with replacements for those he comes with and his two piece hand gun would be nice. Looks like a cthru visor will be doable too which is nice.

The feet def look better than they did in the toy fair photos. Not sure where or if Scorponok has any connectivity to other bases or if he's getting blast effects.

Scorponok's looking amazing. Only issue I have with him is the fact that he doesn't have the silver on the legs, but even then that's not a big issue

Sentinel_Primal wrote:Scorponok's looking amazing. Only issue I have with him is the fact that he doesn't have the silver on the legs, but even then that's not a big issue

You can make the silver on his legs by having a dinkier shield.
But eh, this beast beg for an upgrade kit. With the insane amount of ports he have all over, we could add anything.

He does look awesome, love what they did with the scorpion head, really massive improvement ove the original. That and his size... I mean how could the autobots ever lose if fortress max was twice the size of his decepticon counterpart?

He’s already on order.. my only niggles are to do with the lack of a gun as has been pointed out. The g1 toy did make it seem a bit undersized, but the box artwork always made it look cool in my head. A new version would definitely have to be proportioned better. Also, the other little bits and pieces that went to make his base mode. Sure the radar dishes might be extra pieces that can be lost... but maybe some sort of lift or some levers could’ve been incorporated in the legs. The other Issue I have concerns the shoulder cannons, they look great but really hoped they’d be articulated like we saw in the cartoon. Also, there’s only 2 as opposed to the original toy’s four.

Gripes aside, can’t wait to include him in my collection, love how most of the titans turned out, with perhaps metroplex and fortress being the weakest entries, the rest have been awesome.

Scorponok looks great. I'm also so glad they didn't make him smaller like Trypticon. Also there was some early rumors he had parts sharing with Omega Supreme. Glad to know he is unique, and big enough to be Fort Max rival, undoing the error of the original Can't wait to get it

o.supreme wrote:Scorponok looks great. I'm also so glad they didn't make him smaller like Trypticon. Also there was some early rumors he had parts sharing with Omega Supreme. Glad to know he is unique, and big enough to be Fort Max rival, undoing the error of the original Can't wait to get it

You do realize that Trypticon's G1 toy was somewhat taller than Metroplex's G1 toy because it was in fact substantially bigger than Metroplex (and between that and the motor, cost almost twice as much), yes?

TR Trypticon meanwhile is the same size as T30 Metroplex. He's just shorter because being a T. Rex in robot mode means that size is distributed differently; a lot of it's in the big fat T. rex tail, for instance, plus he has a consistently thick torso (especially when you factor in his back)...

Scorponok's robot mode height is also affected by his tail (hence why he's not quite as tall as Metroplex and Fort Max), but not as much since it's not as huge as Trypticon's (Tryps' tail is the same length as his entire torso). On the upside, his height is boosted by the fact that his robot mode is humanoid rather than bestial.

YES AND YES!!! They will be bought as soon as i see them. Now where are the aotobot clones?

Yup. All of the above.
Generation Metroplex can be this tall because he's such a lean and lanky boi.
For Trypticon to be eye to eye with Metroplex, it should have TWICE the mass. That would be ridiculous.

This Scorponok is now the true rival that Fortmax deserved. Especially with the deluxe heads. But I hated my CW Fortmax so I sold him, being too much of a Metroplex clone. My ER Scorpy will fight G1 Fortmax instead.

I will buy this Scorponok but I will also buy the most likely upcoming 100$ upgrade kit. There's too many bits missing compared to the G1 original:

-- Need two more gray canons. Maybe replace all of them to make the canons posable.
-- The big gun that can split into city towers.
-- Radars and bits for the city mode. Those could combine into a bot like the deluxe "armor" guys.
-- Two proper silver "armor plates" to complete the bot mode for his legs.

Still, for those with no attachment to the G1 toy, this ER version is incredible and very complete.

The problem the designers had would have been to include all that stuff but have Scorp be diminished size wise and more hollow. Afterall, the designers had limits they had to adhere to, no matter what we may have wished. Still I think the compromises were worth it

ZeroWolf wrote:The problem the designers had would have been to include all that stuff but have Scorp be diminished size wise and more hollow. Afterall, the designers had limits they had to adhere to, no matter what we may have wished. Still I think the compromises were worth it

Exactly. To achieve a TRIPLE CHANGER city bot that fit the size and budget, compromises had to be made. That's why the upgrade kit will add another 100+$ to the price of the figure. Something HasTak were not allowed to do. 250$CAN is expensive as it is for a normal retail product. No stores would take on a 400$CAN toy.

Hell, E.B Games were supposed to have MP-44 as an exclusive but they never got it. Look like they don't want to have a 600$CAN toy in inventory after all.

I completely forgot about that EB Games exclusivity Did they ever release a statement saying they decided not to carry it?

-Kanrabat- wrote:I will buy this Scorponok but I will also buy the most likely upcoming 100$ upgrade kit. There's too many bits missing compared to the G1 original:

-- Need two more gray canons. Maybe replace all of them to make the canons posable.
-- The big gun that can split into city towers.
-- Radars and bits for the city mode. Those could combine into a bot like the deluxe "armor" guys.
-- Two proper silver "armor plates" to complete the bot mode for his legs.

This stuff, plus I wish there was an optional clear face shield for some real G1 figure/Mega Zarak cartoon authenticity.

Also wish he could use his tail stinger in bot mode like the original, but not even an upgrade kit can fix that it seems.

I really do love that all the hollow spots actually serve a purpose in at least one mode and gets covered when not in use (aside from the ankles in bot mode). Nice having somewhere to put the shield in scorpion mode.

Emerje

Here's a question though, say that Takara decides to do a Selects Black Zarak, how would they manage the head? In the story for Masterpiece he wasn't a headmaster anymore, having wired himself into the core of the transector. I mean easiest option would just give the head units a new coat of paint (after the retool of course) but would they even need to include the Titan master?

Emerje wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:I will buy this Scorponok but I will also buy the most likely upcoming 100$ upgrade kit. There's too many bits missing compared to the G1 original:

-- Need two more gray canons. Maybe replace all of them to make the canons posable.
-- The big gun that can split into city towers.
-- Radars and bits for the city mode. Those could combine into a bot like the deluxe "armor" guys.
-- Two proper silver "armor plates" to complete the bot mode for his legs.

This stuff, plus I wish there was an optional clear face shield for some real G1 figure/Mega Zarak cartoon authenticity.

Also wish he could use his tail stinger in bot mode like the original, but not even an upgrade kit can fix that it seems.

I really do love that all the hollow spots actually serve a purpose in at least one mode and gets covered when not in use (aside from the ankles in bot mode). Nice having somewhere to put the shield in scorpion mode.

Emerje

The big visor on the G1 toy may have been unsightly but it kind of needs it for cartoon accuracy in scorpion mode, so hopefully some kind of clip on attachment. For me this is one of the most disappointing titans but already ordered it... And if they release it as black zarak I'll be buying it again

ZeroWolf wrote:Here's a question though, say that Takara decides to do a Selects Black Zarak, how would they manage the head? In the story for Masterpiece he wasn't a headmaster anymore, having wired himself into the core of the transector. I mean easiest option would just give the head units a new coat of paint (after the retool of course) but would they even need to include the Titan master?

I don't think it really matter. Case in point, the whole Titan Return line.

blackeyedprime wrote:The big visor on the G1 toy may have been unsightly but it kind of needs it for cartoon accuracy in scorpion mode, so hopefully some kind of clip on attachment. For me this is one of the most disappointing titans but already ordered it... And if they release it as black zarak I'll be buying it again

He has the visor for scorpion mode, but it's purple now, they probably should have painted it white. Toyhax to the rescue I guess.

As for Black Zarak, no matter what the story was the figure still came with a Headmaster regardless. I imagine they'd just reshell the original Titan head.

I still want to see Fasttrack's spear mode, Hasbro's been keeping that secret. I wonder if any of his parts can be used to make up for any of Scorponok's missing parts like the tiny antenna/radar bits?

Emerje

Gods, I'm SO tempted. Don't really have the space but Scorponok is my favourite headmaster. Had the original as a kid for Christmas and it was a joy!

blackeyedprime wrote:

Emerje wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:I will buy this Scorponok but I will also buy the most likely upcoming 100$ upgrade kit. There's too many bits missing compared to the G1 original:

-- Need two more gray canons. Maybe replace all of them to make the canons posable.
-- The big gun that can split into city towers.
-- Radars and bits for the city mode. Those could combine into a bot like the deluxe "armor" guys.
-- Two proper silver "armor plates" to complete the bot mode for his legs.

This stuff, plus I wish there was an optional clear face shield for some real G1 figure/Mega Zarak cartoon authenticity.

Also wish he could use his tail stinger in bot mode like the original, but not even an upgrade kit can fix that it seems.

I really do love that all the hollow spots actually serve a purpose in at least one mode and gets covered when not in use (aside from the ankles in bot mode). Nice having somewhere to put the shield in scorpion mode.

Emerje

The big visor on the G1 toy may have been unsightly but it kind of needs it for cartoon accuracy in scorpion mode, so hopefully some kind of clip on attachment. For me this is one of the most disappointing titans but already ordered it... And if they release it as black zarak I'll be buying it again

Even more disappointing then TR Fortress Maximus? How so? I think they did a really good job within the limits they had to work with.

Im still waiting to see the spear mode as well.

As for the Black Zarak you coming with a headmaster, that's because I completely forgot that it came with one

Wow! He's perfect!

-Kanrabat- wrote:Hell, E.B Games were supposed to have MP-44 as an exclusive but they never got it. Look like they don't want to have a 600$CAN toy in inventory after all.

They dont carrry them in stores, just online. Are you saying those who preordered him on the website never got him?

ZeroWolf wrote:

blackeyedprime wrote:

Emerje wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:I will buy this Scorponok but I will also buy the most likely upcoming 100$ upgrade kit. There's too many bits missing compared to the G1 original:

-- Need two more gray canons. Maybe replace all of them to make the canons posable.
-- The big gun that can split into city towers.
-- Radars and bits for the city mode. Those could combine into a bot like the deluxe "armor" guys.
-- Two proper silver "armor plates" to complete the bot mode for his legs.

This stuff, plus I wish there was an optional clear face shield for some real G1 figure/Mega Zarak cartoon authenticity.

Also wish he could use his tail stinger in bot mode like the original, but not even an upgrade kit can fix that it seems.

I really do love that all the hollow spots actually serve a purpose in at least one mode and gets covered when not in use (aside from the ankles in bot mode). Nice having somewhere to put the shield in scorpion mode.

Emerje

The big visor on the G1 toy may have been unsightly but it kind of needs it for cartoon accuracy in scorpion mode, so hopefully some kind of clip on attachment. For me this is one of the most disappointing titans but already ordered it... And if they release it as black zarak I'll be buying it again

Even more disappointing then TR Fortress Maximus? How so? I think they did a really good job within the limits they had to work with.

Im still waiting to see the spear mode as well.

As for the Black Zarak you coming with a headmaster, that's because I completely forgot that it came with one

TR Fort max probably wasn't as dissapointing because I liked Scorponoks design/character more. Plus I don't have an original Fort max (I have a rid brave max that Takara released with out most of Fort maxs accessories, so it lessened the blow of getting tr Fort max with out most of Fort maxs accessories). Fort maxs lack of elevator, foot storage, lack of guns and having to fan mode base was the let downs. It did have electronics though so it marked some improvements over the original and he looks complete enough in robot mode with out needing upgrades.

Scorponok feels like it needs a lot of add ons to make it on par with the original toy and needs upgrades to complete nearly every one of its modes. I'd also like some knee pads or something for the deluxe head robot mode legs but I'm picky

I will be getting the seekers, but i do wish Thundercracker was a little less baby blue.

william-james88 wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:Hell, E.B Games were supposed to have MP-44 as an exclusive but they never got it. Look like they don't want to have a 600$CAN toy in inventory after all.

They dont carrry them in stores, just online. Are you saying those who preordered him on the website never got him?

Just online?
I never checked.

But if there is Canadians who got their MP-44 via EB Games, they don't shout it out over here.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote::roll: You do realize that Trypticon's G1 toy was somewhat taller than Metroplex's G1 toy because it was in fact substantially bigger than Metroplex (and between that and the motor, cost almost twice as much), yes?

No need to lecture, I was there. Were you? Without the electronics, If Hasbro had scaled up TR Trypticon slightly to be almost the same size as T30 Metroplex (as ER Scorponok is to Fort Max), they could have easily done it for around the $200 price point in 2017

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:TR Trypticon meanwhile is the same size as T30 Metroplex. He's just shorter because being a T. Rex in robot mode means that size is distributed differently; a lot of it's in the big fat T. rex tail, for instance, plus he has a consistently thick torso (especially when you factor in his back)...

So he's short and fat, we all know that...Your Point?

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Scorponok's robot mode height is also affected by his tail (hence why he's not quite as tall as Metroplex and Fort Max), but not as much since it's not as huge as Trypticon's (Tryps' tail is the same length as his entire torso). On the upside, his height is boosted by the fact that his robot mode is humanoid rather than bestial.

And my point is still valid. I'm not saying Trypticon is an awful toy, never did, it just didn't meet my expectations, and they are still valid today, as they were 3 years ago when it came out. The argument was never settled, never will be until it is rectified.

It took 33 years for Hasbro to finally rectify the disparity between the original Scorponok and Fort Max. I say Bravo, and let's celebrate that! I'm not looking for an immediate fix with Trypticon, it is what it is, but I can still call it a disappointment if I wish.

I thought Titans didn't go for $200? Given his dimensions, you might be luckier in the next Metroplex being smaller like his G1 self