In hand Images of Transformers SS BB Arcee and Ironhide

Is it just me or does anyone else find it disturbing that Ironhide looks like he's wearing hot pants and a man-kini over them?

Arcee looks great.

Is that the new super-duper premium finish Optimus Prime in that group shot? Arcee looks good but something looks off with dat face.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Is that the new super-duper premium finish Optimus Prime in that group shot? Arcee looks good but something looks off with dat face.

I feel the opposite, I think the face looks way better now that we're seeing it close up. I love all the details and the way the eyes look, she looks less like a marionette now.

Emerje

Wondering if I should get SS arcee to replace er arcee
Definitely looks better just not sure if she'll fit in with the other generations figures

rc looks so much like the other rc from the movies. great continuity.

really though the detail on the eyes kreeps me out a little

Razorbeast88 wrote:Wondering if I should get SS arcee to replace er arcee
Definitely looks better just not sure if she'll fit in with the other generations figures

Replace from where?
In a G1 display, she would look off. But in a general display, why not?


Personally, this Arcee won't replace anyone. She'll just enter my Arcee Harem! ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)







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I never had a G1-styled-Arcee before,so this this toy has picked my interest.
Ironhide looks cool,buying him will make want buy Ratchet as well.

Day 784 of waiting for Transformers Armada Masterpiece news.

I was pretty sure I was gonna pass on Arcee and this just reaffirms that. Those black parts ruin the deco for me, just like the T30 did. I'm very happy with ER Arcee, so she stays. $24 saved.

Ratchet and Ironhide look pretty good, even if they're a bit short and stocky.

Arcee desperately needs some blue paint on the eyes. Other than that I think she looks great.

There is one thing I really don't like about that Ironhide Hide and ratchet and it's how they handled the shoulders. These toys are said to start with mirroring the robot mode seen in the film and then going from there for the alt mode but those shoulders are not like in the film. In the film, the grey part is not the whole shoulder, just a decorative strip at the top. So I thought maybe it had to be bigger to go with the alt mode but in the alt mode, those panels just stick out and don't integrate with the rest of the vehicle to form a nice outline (I have Ratchet as an example below). The design of the toys show that they planned to make those shoulder panels be more in line with the vehicle's outline but the toy doesn't have that. So you end up with inaccurate shoulders that look weird in robot mode and that serve nothing for in alt mode.

Yeah, but in order to make those shoulder panels integrate better into the alt mode concept art they had to cheat. The concept art makes the shoulder panels much larger than would be possible from the movie CG and that would have meant them being even bigger in bot mode. What they did was try to find the sweet spot in between and I think they did a good job working it out. Only alternative would have been to use fake parts.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:Yeah, but in order to make those shoulder panels integrate better into the alt mode concept art they had to cheat. The concept art makes the shoulder panels much larger than would be possible from the movie CG and that would have meant them being even bigger in bot mode. What they did was try to find the sweet spot in between and I think they did a good job working it out. Only alternative would have been to use fake parts.

Emerje

Well then I would have preferred they just make them smaller then and more like the 3D model. At least then 1 of the two modes would look really good.

william-james88 wrote:

Emerje wrote:Yeah, but in order to make those shoulder panels integrate better into the alt mode concept art they had to cheat. The concept art makes the shoulder panels much larger than would be possible from the movie CG and that would have meant them being even bigger in bot mode. What they did was try to find the sweet spot in between and I think they did a good job working it out. Only alternative would have been to use fake parts.

Emerje

Well then I would have preferred they just make them smaller then and more like the 3D model. At least then 1 of the two modes would look really good.

It's pretty standard fare that the CGI model cannot perfectly match the toy. Especially with the live action movie lines.
Best example is in AoE where the filmmakers didn't even bother to figure out how the hell can this:



transform into this:



I almost raged when I saw this crap on the silver screen way back then:



Unique Toys did what the initial designers couldn't. Making AoE Galvatron properly transform.
Seriously.
Granted, it's MP sized and is nearly 300$ but still, a 3P company figured it out:



Now the real question is. Will Hasbro / Takara figure out the transformation as a voyager with the budget that go with it without a "folding table" as a backpack like the original? We know it's in the work and is relatively soon to be revealed. Will they succeed?

-Kanrabat- wrote:Now the real question is. Will Hasbro / Takara figure out the transformation as a voyager with the budget that go with it without a "folding table" as a backpack like the original? We know it's in the work and is relatively soon to be revealed. Will they succeed?

Stinger was in the same boat, so following that model there’s going to be some truck kibble in bot mode, but it should still be a good representation of the CG model.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Emerje wrote:Yeah, but in order to make those shoulder panels integrate better into the alt mode concept art they had to cheat. The concept art makes the shoulder panels much larger than would be possible from the movie CG and that would have meant them being even bigger in bot mode. What they did was try to find the sweet spot in between and I think they did a good job working it out. Only alternative would have been to use fake parts.

Emerje

Well then I would have preferred they just make them smaller then and more like the 3D model. At least then 1 of the two modes would look really good.

It's pretty standard fare that the CGI model cannot perfectly match the toy. Especially with the live action movie lines.
Best example is in AoE where the filmmakers didn't even bother to figure out how the hell can this:



transform into this:



I almost raged when I saw this crap on the silver screen way back then:



Unique Toys did what the initial designers couldn't. Making AoE Galvatron properly transform.
Seriously.
Granted, it's MP sized and is nearly 300$ but still, a 3P company figured it out:



Now the real question is. Will Hasbro / Takara figure out the transformation as a voyager with the budget that go with it without a "folding table" as a backpack like the original? We know it's in the work and is relatively soon to be revealed. Will they succeed?

Bruv, that Thirdparty Galvatron looks great in robot mode. But man the damn thing just turns inside out. His guts are the truck. It's like reverse Shelforming or something.

Ontopic:
Arcee... I'm in love. She looks amazing, hope they repaint/retool her to death. Absolute must for me.
Brawn is also Amazing, still need to get Wheeljack.
I hope they redo Optimus with a simpler transformation. Both modes look good but he's not very solid in robot mode + the transformation gives me a headache.

Ironhide, a must as well. Already have Ratchet, great both modes.

I am loving these new Live Action Transformers. I hope they keep up this trend.

These Bumblebee movie toys shouldn't be compared to other movie toys since their alt modes were created by Hasbro proper (just like DOTM Shockwave). No reason Ironhide and Ratchet can't look better in the shoulder department.

william-james88 wrote:These Bumblebee movie toys shouldn't be compared to other movie toys since their alt modes were created by Hasbro proper (just like DOTM Shockwave). No reason Ironhide and Ratchet can't look better in the shoulder department.

I know what you mean but no one us perfect I guess.

Emerje wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Is that the new super-duper premium finish Optimus Prime in that group shot? Arcee looks good but something looks off with dat face.

I feel the opposite, I think the face looks way better now that we're seeing it close up. I love all the details and the way the eyes look, she looks less like a marionette now.

Emerje

It looks like she's wearing a mask with her real face peeking out underneath through the eye holes.

Arcee's face looks a bit weird in hand, it looks like a ventriloquist dummy. That's the one thing I don't like about the Bee movie Autobots: cliff, ironhide, ratchet, and Arcee have faces that look pretty weird and I'm not a big fan

We have an image of the new Studio Series deluxe toys hitting the shelves at Target. This is the wave with Bumblebee Movie Brawn, Ratchet, Wheeljack and SS86 Perceptor. The sighting comes from Transformers fan TickTockGoesTheClock who posted it here. Other fans have also reported finding it at Target. The photo below comes from a Target south of Indianapolis.

This makes the first wave of 2022 Studio Series toys now fully found in the US.

Just a guess, but coronation Scream first surfaced at Greenwood, IN Target and that qualifies as S of Indy. Or it could be Southport. I wonder if this is coming through that FedEx facility in Greenwood?

this line looks really good.

Time to start watching walmarts when I get groceries then

I guess it's time to swing by Target today. Ratchet, Wheeljack and Brawn are on my list to get.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Time to start watching walmarts when I get groceries then

But this is at Target.

william-james88 wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Time to start watching walmarts when I get groceries then

But this is at Target.

Literally does not matter. I almost always see things at walmart first. showing up first at one retailer doesn't make a difference for where I commonly find things

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Arcee's face looks a bit weird in hand, it looks like a ventriloquist dummy. That's the one thing I don't like about the Bee movie Autobots: cliff, ironhide, ratchet, and Arcee have faces that look pretty weird and I'm not a big fan

You hit the nail on the head with Arcee, I could never quite put my finger on it.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Arcee's face looks a bit weird in hand, it looks like a ventriloquist dummy. That's the one thing I don't like about the Bee movie Autobots: cliff, ironhide, ratchet, and Arcee have faces that look pretty weird and I'm not a big fan

You hit the nail on the head with Arcee, I could never quite put my finger on it.

But you like the drooling Shrapnel Geiger faces from the Bayverse right?

The ethestics of G1 faces versus Bay/Knight faces comes to just being different eras of design and thought about science fiction. G1 stuff comes from a visual school (and a time period) where that smooth, almost masquerade mask look was what made sense and Bay/Knight is ok what if we took that but thought about what humanoid alien robots look like and err towards something "stranger"

They both have their place, one isn't wrong or right for liking either

Back on topic, I'm eagerly keeping an eye out for Brawn and Wheeljack, going to pass on Ratchet until Ironhide hits the scene. So far the Cores have shown up around here so the rest can't be far behind

SkyFire Prime wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Arcee's face looks a bit weird in hand, it looks like a ventriloquist dummy. That's the one thing I don't like about the Bee movie Autobots: cliff, ironhide, ratchet, and Arcee have faces that look pretty weird and I'm not a big fan

You hit the nail on the head with Arcee, I could never quite put my finger on it.

But you like the drooling Shrapnel Geiger faces from the Bayverse right?

The "drooling shrapnel Geiger faces" works because they are pure alien. The "human" like faces of the Bee Movie bots strike that uncanny valley feeling.

SkyFire Prime wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Arcee's face looks a bit weird in hand, it looks like a ventriloquist dummy. That's the one thing I don't like about the Bee movie Autobots: cliff, ironhide, ratchet, and Arcee have faces that look pretty weird and I'm not a big fan

You hit the nail on the head with Arcee, I could never quite put my finger on it.

But you like the drooling Shrapnel Geiger faces from the Bayverse right?

Absolutely not. There's very few if any Bayverse bots that I like the look of.

I got charged by Amazon for the Bumblebee Movie deluxe figures. Should be here on March 3rd while Perceptor should be here on Sunday.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:I got charged by Amazon for the Bumblebee Movie deluxe figures. Should be here on March 3rd while Perceptor should be here on Sunday.

Same for the BB movie figures including Soundwave. Order still says arriving April 5 even though the product pages say shipping March 1. Was also hoping the price would come down at least temporarily since I ordered it in December for a good price match, but none of them did.

Emerje

SkyFire Prime wrote:
But you like the drooling Shrapnel Geiger faces from the Bayverse right?

I wasn’t as much of a fan of the AOE/TLK face designs that are more humanoid, but the designs from the first 3 movies are what I’d consider perfection.

But hey, Studio Series covers the Bay movies and BB (and G1), so everyone’s happy!

With wave 1 at retail and wave 2 revealed, I can’t wait for wave 3 reveals, likely in a couple months!

. . . If they reveal them at all, I guess xD

Emerje wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:I got charged by Amazon for the Bumblebee Movie deluxe figures. Should be here on March 3rd while Perceptor should be here on Sunday.

Same for the BB movie figures including Soundwave. Order still says arriving April 5 even though the product pages say shipping March 1. Was also hoping the price would come down at least temporarily since I ordered it in December for a good price match, but none of them did.

Emerje

Ratchet at least may still price match. He was down to $19.99 while Brawn and Wheeljack were still regular price. Amazon typically doesn't lower the price until they actually charge and ship, so we may still get a slight savings when they ship.

Edit: Damn, he's back to full price, so nevermind.

Edit to the Edit: I just checked my order and Amazon did give me Ratchet at $19.99. Who-hoo!

I don't see how they're making an entire toy line based on a 5 minute scene in a movie.

Asepticon wrote:I don't see how they're making an entire toy line based on a 5 minute scene in a movie.

Simple, it is the closest the live action movies have come to G1 character representations, so the current design team was naturally drawn to it.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

Emerje wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:I got charged by Amazon for the Bumblebee Movie deluxe figures. Should be here on March 3rd while Perceptor should be here on Sunday.

Same for the BB movie figures including Soundwave. Order still says arriving April 5 even though the product pages say shipping March 1. Was also hoping the price would come down at least temporarily since I ordered it in December for a good price match, but none of them did.

Emerje

Ratchet at least may still price match. He was down to $19.99 while Brawn and Wheeljack were still regular price. Amazon typically doesn't lower the price until they actually charge and ship, so we may still get a slight savings when they ship.

Edit: Damn, he's back to full price, so nevermind.

Edit to the Edit: I just checked my order and Amazon did give me Ratchet at $19.99. Who-hoo!

My Ratchet too. I don't understand why one figure was lowered and the other two from the SAME wave and SAME case aren't. Amazon has been like this for a few years now and I hate that I still give them my business.

Asepticon wrote:I don't see how they're making an entire toy line based on a 5 minute scene in a movie.

It's not an entire line just part of a subline. Toy companies have been making much from little for years. Look at all the Batman figures that get made for a movie line.

So with Bee Movie Arcee getting SS 85, what are they going to do for wave 3 this year? Will either DOTM Bee or Sideways be regular SS 86, or will they skip to SS 87? Will they stop numbering altogether?

TF-fan kev777 wrote:Edit to the Edit: I just checked my order and Amazon did give me Ratchet at $19.99. Who-hoo!

Yep, my Ratchet also came down to $19.99 and my three Deluxes are due to arrive Thursday so that's good news. Soundwave is still showing April, I suspect Amazon will be giving me a refund on him if he doesn't ship soon until he's finally ready to go.

My SS86 Perceptor is also ready to ship for next week!

chuckdawg1999 wrote:My Ratchet too. I don't understand why one figure was lowered and the other two from the SAME wave and SAME case aren't. Amazon has been like this for a few years now and I hate that I still give them my business.

Amazon is pretty quick to reduce the prices on figures that aren't selling as well as they'd like until the sales catch back up with the rest of the wave. Walmart and Target occasionally do the same thing with other figures, though Walmart will also crank up the prices of their own exclusives that are selling well. What I'm trying to say is all the big companies do weird things with prices to maximize sales.

Emerje

TF-fan kev777 wrote:So with Bee Movie Arcee getting SS 85, what are they going to do for wave 3 this year? Will either DOTM Bee or Sideways be regular SS 86, or will they skip to SS 87? Will they stop numbering altogether?

My guess is that they’ll skip to 87, but we’ll see!

They can still use SS 86 in the regular line. It's not the same as SS86, and besides, the latter has the smaller numbers attached to it. That also makes it different.

Emerje wrote:

TF-fan kev777 wrote:Edit to the Edit: I just checked my order and Amazon did give me Ratchet at $19.99. Who-hoo!

Yep, my Ratchet also came down to $19.99 and my three Deluxes are due to arrive Thursday so that's good news. Soundwave is still showing April, I suspect Amazon will be giving me a refund on him if he doesn't ship soon until he's finally ready to go.

My SS86 Perceptor is also ready to ship for next week!

chuckdawg1999 wrote:My Ratchet too. I don't understand why one figure was lowered and the other two from the SAME wave and SAME case aren't. Amazon has been like this for a few years now and I hate that I still give them my business.

Amazon is pretty quick to reduce the prices on figures that aren't selling as well as they'd like until the sales catch back up with the rest of the wave. Walmart and Target occasionally do the same thing with other figures, though Walmart will also crank up the prices of their own exclusives that are selling well. What I'm trying to say is all the big companies do weird things with prices to maximize sales.

Emerje

Algorithims, it's all algorithims.

Asepticon wrote:I don't see how they're making an entire toy line based on a 5 minute scene in a movie.

Doesn't matter, they did it.

Arcee and Ironhide are up on Amazon for anoyone looking.

https://www.amazon.com/Transformers-Stu ... C87&sr=1-3?tag=seibertron07-20&

https://www.amazon.com/Transformers-Stu ... C87&sr=1-4?tag=seibertron07-20&

william-james88 wrote:

Asepticon wrote:I don't see how they're making an entire toy line based on a 5 minute scene in a movie.

Doesn't matter, they did it.

And they're pretty good figures (the Deluxes anyway). I think Wheeljack is my favorite of this batch, his bot mode is solid and I love his car mode. Everything snaps together nicely and he's fun to transform. Ratchet would be my favorite, but his bot mode is super loose in the hips, elbows and shoulders. His transformation is absolutely ridiculous, it's far more complex than I could have imagined from pictures. Alt mode is pretty nice with no real gaps or open spaces, he'd be a great figure if it weren't for the floppy limbs. Brawn is the figure I was most looking forward to and he ended up being the biggest disappointment. Bot mode is OK, Transformation is really simple, and alt mode is not great. He has so many gaps in his alt mode that not only can you see straight through him from the side, but there's what can only be described as a hole right through the top of him that they could have easily have filled with his forearms. Looking back at stock photos they were clearly trying to hide all this. If they had just spent a little more time planning him he could have been great, but he feels rushed.

On the plus side I didn't have any parts fall off any of these guys, though only Ratchet really secures his gun in alt mode well using a 5mm peg while Wheeljack uses an odd shaped slot and Brawn only uses a tiny 3mm peg for some reason that barely holds.

Emerje

Just got Brawn, waiting for Wheeljack to get shipped from Amazon.

Got to say Brawn is really nice. The transformation is very unique.

Smooth rolling. The only nitpick is the Titan master pegs for the gun. In vehicle mode its not very secure. But I do love that rifle.

Brawn looks pretty good in those images. He is the one I am most excited for. Still waiting to see them in stores

For anyone who is really excited for the new Transformers Studio Series Bumblebee movie figures, we have some news for you. Amazon.com Currently has most of the new wave available in stock, including the deluxe class Brawn, Wheeljack, and Ratchet, as well as the core class Shockwave and Ravage. To make matters better, Ravage is currently on sale at $8.49, and Ratchet is on sale for $19.99.

While Soundwave is still a preorder, and Perceptor is out of stock, you can purchase the deluxes and core figures.

Check out the links below, and let us know if you pick any of these guys up and what you think of the, in the comments section below!

Ratchet: https://www.amazon.com/Transformers-Stu ... 110&sr=8-3?tag=seibertron07-20&

Wheeljack: https://www.amazon.com/Transformers-Stu ... 110&sr=8-6?tag=seibertron07-20&

Brawn: https://www.amazon.com/Transformers-Stu ... 110&sr=8-5?tag=seibertron07-20&

Ravage: https://www.amazon.com/Transformers-Stu ... C60&sr=8-1?tag=seibertron07-20&

Shockwave: https://www.amazon.com/Transformers-Stu ... C60&sr=8-3?tag=seibertron07-20&

Repaint that Brawn in burgundy and red and we got our next crossover figure: Juggernaut.