In Hand Images of Robots In Disguise Minicon 4 pack W1 341148

I'm still waiting on those individual releases of Jetstorm and Airazor so I can have my show minicons, but these don't look too bad at all. Also can't wait for the minicon weapons

Didn't realize a new thread for RID toys had been started.

william-james88 wrote:While initial reception on the new Robots in Disguise toyline was lukewarm, it really seems to have found it's footing and the mincons' welcome return into the fiction and toyline (albeit reinvented) is a big help. Seibertron was lucky to get the new four pack in and take some prelminary pictures of them in their box. We had perviously only seen 3d toy models so this gives us a better idea of the deco and detail. This set (W1 341148) includes Backtrack, Swelter, Beastbox ad Scorch Strike. Enjoy!

Lukewarm is a very diplomatic way to say it

FYI peeps, the minicon battle packs are in stock at Entertainment Earth. Keep in mind they're very, very expensive.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:FYI peeps, the minicon battle packs are in stock at Entertainment Earth. Keep in mind they're very, very expensive.

got links? How expensive are they? are they more expensive than a deluxe figure?

william-james88 wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:FYI peeps, the minicon battle packs are in stock at Entertainment Earth. Keep in mind they're very, very expensive.

got links? How expensive are they? are they more expensive than a deluxe figure?

Here

and

Here

$34 does seem a little pricey, but with no scale for reference, I guess I can't really say that... yeah, no, they want $120 for a set of deluxe limbs, no way I'm buying anything from them

Entertainment Earth is strange with prices. I was going to get the wave 2 combiner wars limbs from them for $54.99, but then HTS got them in stock and with a 25% discount, so I went there instead. I also got the wave 3 limbs from there for $50.00 even, so I got good prices. It's just some are weird and I feel like there is a price difference depending on something I don't know about, such as me getting wave 3 at $12.50 individuals, but the whole set had 2 prices: one at $64.99 and another at $119.99. They're weird, but you can score, just maybe not here

Those prices don't surprise me. I bet they are priced to fit in the "Deluxe" price point.
Legends (Commander)=$10
Minicon + armor = $3 to $5

Cobotron wrote:Those prices don't surprise me. I bet they are priced to fit in the "Deluxe" price point.
Legends (Commander)=$10
Minicon + armor = $3 to $5

I had more been thinking $29.99 for the same reasons, minicons being $5 and commanders being $10. maybe even a smidge cheaper being they are a set, but oh well. these are more prices I would see BBTS having.

I dont get it chuck, these are the same kind of prices we have seen all year.

I think you even get more out of this than a deluxe since you get 2 transforming figures plus armour which can merge into a weapon. The deluxe grimlock didnt even have a weapon.

william-james88 wrote:I dont get it chuck, these are the same kind of prices we have seen all year.

I think you even get more out of this than a deluxe since you get 2 transforming figures plus armour which can merge into a weapon. The deluxe grimlock didnt even have a weapon.

I think Chuck was just saying that Entertainment Earth is an expensive place to buy things so their price may not be reflective of what the same item would cost in Target or Walmart.

I appreciate the "Commander" class RID items even is some of them are a little redundant - I would be doing what I have to do with the Legends/Basic class and split them into two collections.

For example Optimus/Starscream/Megatron/Acid Storm/Thundercracker/Optimus/Skywarp would be used as "larger" toys and apired with the likes of Legion/Legends class toys from some years ago like : Hound, Bumblebee, Beachcomber.

Where as : Groove, Warpath, Bumblebee, Gears, Swerve, Tailgate, Windcharger, Huffer, Pipes, Viper, Cosmos, & Powerglide fit into the Minibot scale when taken with a Deluxe... those would for exmple Go OK with Jet Bomber Megatron & Orion Pax.

Rodimus, Scrapnel & Bombshell can be either or.

So the same idea with RID-15/16 would be that Optimus & Grimlock would be leadership characters paired with Legion Bumblebee/Sideswipe etc..

Where as the new Bumblebee & Sideswipe would be the smaller characters I'd use with the warrior Megatronus & Optimus toys. (but legions work well for that too in vehicle mode at least - not so much in robot mode).

So I will need to see them as 2 things just like I feel the need to do with the previous Legends/Basic toys that represent bigger and smaller characters in the same price point.

I don't find that a distraction though.

BBTS has wave 1 in stock too with a much more reasonable price. The Entertainment Earth price was a bit high for the figures, roughly $2-$3 more.

Why are these Minicons' colors SO WRONG?

SillySpringer wrote:Why are these Minicons' colors SO WRONG?

becasue these are essentially redecos and the colours on the box are of the original characters. I am just assuming this on Beast box being the case and turning it into a blanket statement.

I got my Warrior Megatronus today!!!!!!!

He is everything I had heard and I love this guy to death! He is an amazing figure and a great showing for the entire toyline, easily one of the best. Go out and get him guys!!

Haiku review for Titan Heroes Transforming Robots in Disguise Bumblebee


Titan Bumblebee



Smooth and Durable plastic



And it's delicious

Robots in Disguise fans looking for new Mini-Cons will be happy to note that the 1st wave of Mini-Con Battle Packs have been found at retail. Sideswipe comes with Anvil while Optimus Prime comes with Bludgeon and each contains translucent pieces which can attach to Optimus Prime and Sideswipe as armor or combine into a larger weapon. These were found at Toys R Us in Westland, MI for $14.99 each by Seibertron Podcaster Tigertrack. Interesting to note that in the Official Images, Bludgeon was referred to as Doomitron.

william-james88 wrote:And delicious

That's only four syllables, though.

Sweet! Gimme dem Battle Packs!

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:And delicious

That's only four syllables, though.

I had forgotten "it's". Corrected!

Howdy, fellow Seibertronians. Following the first in store sighting of Robots in Disguise Minicon Battle Packs; Cobotron has sent us some out of package images and size comparisons of Optimus Prime vs Blugeon. We get a good look at Optimus Prime armored up and of the combined weapon. Prime stands a little taller than the current legends class figures, making him more in line with the scout class of old. When you're done with these new images refresh your memory of the rest of the RID line here.


And remember to keep your browsers pointed to Seibertron.com for the latest Transformer news, the largest Transformers galleries and the most Transformers fun you can have this side of a space bridge.

Oh Will

I managed to snag 1-step Springload over the weekend, and got Jazz as a Christmas gift too. For being underpainted, Jazz is still very cool, and I love little Springload. He looks mean and he really does look like a frog. And I can't stop singing "Ribbits in disguise"

That Prime does look pretty cool armored up, and he's a bit bigger than I expected. interesting thing we have here

So, he's bigger than a Generations Legends class figure? Ladies and gentlemen, the Basic/Scout class has finally returned!

Also, looks like a much better figure than the Warrior.

Sabrblade wrote:Ladies and gentlemen, the Basic/Scout class has finally returned!

Hallelujah!

Also, looks like a much better figure than the Warrior.

Ya, Maybe. People poo poo ball joints. But I don't get it. Ball joints are what made Beast Wars such great toys... IMO.

Fellow Seibertronians, yours truly has spotted the new wave of 1-step changers, featuring Springload, Quillfire, and the new Bumblebee mold at Walmart! This image only shows the Bee mold and the Quillfire figure, but Springload was present and was picked up by said member before this picture was taken. So head on out to your local Walmart's and begin to look as these guys are bound to show up en masse soon!



Still on the Robots in Disguise topic, our very own Scotty P found 3-Step Thunderhoof/Blizzard Strike Drift at US retail. They were found at Toysrus in Raleigh NC for $22.99 each.

Cobotron wrote:

Also, looks like a much better figure than the Warrior.

Ya, Maybe. People poo poo ball joints. But I don't get it. Ball joints are what made Beast Wars such great toys... IMO.

Exactly. And even though this Optimus's shoulders aren't ball joints, they still look to be a whole lot better than the Warrior's, whose shoulder joints are some of the worst ones I have ever encountered.

Sabrblade wrote:

Cobotron wrote:

Also, looks like a much better figure than the Warrior.

Ya, Maybe. People poo poo ball joints. But I don't get it. Ball joints are what made Beast Wars such great toys... IMO.

Exactly. And even though this Optimus's shoulders aren't ball joints, they still look to be a whole lot better than the Warrior's, whose shoulder joints are some of the worst ones I have ever encountered.

When did this ever happen? He seemed like a great figure - apart from the mis-assembled thighs

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Cobotron wrote:

Also, looks like a much better figure than the Warrior.

Ya, Maybe. People poo poo ball joints. But I don't get it. Ball joints are what made Beast Wars such great toys... IMO.

Exactly. And even though this Optimus's shoulders aren't ball joints, they still look to be a whole lot better than the Warrior's, whose shoulder joints are some of the worst ones I have ever encountered.

When did this ever happen? He seemed like a great figure - apart from the mis-assembled thighs

The Warrior's shoulders are absolutely terrible. Aside from their ability to rotate (which every shoulder ought to do anyway), they are stuck in a completely static position with no mobility at all.

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Cobotron wrote:

Also, looks like a much better figure than the Warrior.

Ya, Maybe. People poo poo ball joints. But I don't get it. Ball joints are what made Beast Wars such great toys... IMO.

Exactly. And even though this Optimus's shoulders aren't ball joints, they still look to be a whole lot better than the Warrior's, whose shoulder joints are some of the worst ones I have ever encountered.

When did this ever happen? He seemed like a great figure - apart from the mis-assembled thighs

What he's saying is that the shoulders on the Warrior had to use the transformation joint to actually move up and down, whereas this one has a ball joint under the armor to move, making it look a bit more natural. Now mind you I still love my warrior but I can see where that nitpick about the transformation joint also being the shoulder vertical movement being a wee bit of a pain

The hands on the Warrior are a little goofy too.

Yeah, it takes a little creativity when posing Warrior OP.

As far as his hands, youtuber peaugh put a nice lil mod for those. I've done it and very happy with the results.

Optimus looks okay with the armor, but without it his chest just looks ridiculously bad.

I see, well, guess I'm kinda glad I skipped the arctic regurgitation of him then

Optimum Supreme wrote:Optimus looks okay with the armor, but without it his chest just looks ridiculously bad.

I blame unpaintable plastic.

carytheone wrote:Yeah, it takes a little creativity when posing Warrior OP.

As far as his hands, youtuber peaugh put a nice lil mod for those. I've done it and very happy with the results.

Ya, I keep meaning to look into this mod.

Cobotron wrote:

carytheone wrote:Yeah, it takes a little creativity when posing Warrior OP.

As far as his hands, youtuber peaugh put a nice lil mod for those. I've done it and very happy with the results.

Ya, I keep meaning to look into this mod.

Look no farther.


I used a pocket knife and a file on my pocket multitool. One side came out like a factory job, they other is a loosey goosey, but holds just fine.

If you're still a little nervous, I can pop him apart again tonight and send ya some close up pics and point out which one is better.

Thanks Champ!

Cobotron wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Ladies and gentlemen, the Basic/Scout class has finally returned!

Hallelujah!

Also, looks like a much better figure than the Warrior.

Ya, Maybe. People poo poo ball joints. But I don't get it. Ball joints are what made Beast Wars such great toys... IMO.

2 things to say to this:

1: The scout class has returned in scale alone, but not in spirit. The best part of the scout class was that it was as detailed and coplex as the deluxe class but fo characters that were simply smaller and thus needed to be part of a smaller scale to fit wth the other deluxes. These battlepacks are not made to scale with the warriors. It seems like RID toys are not meant to scale across classes (or even their own). Legion Fixit does scale wonderfully with Warrior Bee though.

2: If you like ball joints, then you may be dissapointed that Takara opted to replace some ball joints on UW Devy for pin joints attached by mushroom peg.

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Cobotron wrote:

Also, looks like a much better figure than the Warrior.

Ya, Maybe. People poo poo ball joints. But I don't get it. Ball joints are what made Beast Wars such great toys... IMO.

Exactly. And even though this Optimus's shoulders aren't ball joints, they still look to be a whole lot better than the Warrior's, whose shoulder joints are some of the worst ones I have ever encountered.

When did this ever happen? He seemed like a great figure - apart from the mis-assembled thighs

Oh all the fgures I bought this year, he is the worst by far. The transformation sucks hard, his head doesnt lock in, the peg hole on his back serves no purpose, his arms look terrible and his shulder articulation is very awkward. I bought the COTF version for 10$ and still feel I overpaid. He also doesnt scale with anything. Easily the worst RID toy of the bunch.

william-james88 wrote:He also doesnt scale with anything.

Warrior Megatronus?

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:He also doesnt scale with anything.

Warrior Megatronus?

No, I'm pretty sure he was bigger than megs in the show, right?

william-james88 wrote:The scout class has returned in scale alone, but not in spirit.

I disagree, but only because I have a soft spot for 3 inch action figures.

The best part of the scout class was that it was as detailed and coplex as the deluxe class

True for some of the Gen. scout releases, but not for Beast Wars and Energon. They were heavily simplified. Especially BW with their flippy gimmicks, but no less detailed.

These battlepacks are not made to scale with the warriors. It seems like RID toys are not meant to scale across classes (or even their own). Legion Fixit does scale wonderfully with Warrior Bee though.

True to all of this, but that soft spot has got me. Even though I'm a little rubbed to get more of the same characters, these just have great play value.

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:He also doesnt scale with anything.

Warrior Megatronus?

No, I'm pretty sure he was bigger than megs in the show, right?

This clip shows them to be of comparable height:'

Sabrblade wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:He also doesnt scale with anything.

Warrior Megatronus?

No, I'm pretty sure he was bigger than megs in the show, right?

This clip shows them to be of comparable height:'

Huh, well, whatever then

Cobotron wrote:

The best part of the scout class was that it was as detailed and complex as the deluxe class

True for some of the Gen. scout releases, but not for Beast Wars and Energon. They were heavily simplified. Especially BW with their flippy gimmicks, but no less detailed.

Ah but you forget that Beast Wars werent Scout Class figures, they were basic figures. The first ever Scout Class figures were for energon and Signal Flare, Divebomb and Strongarm are as complex as deluxe Hotshot and Mega Ironhide for instance. Cruellock had less steps but that was due to design of the toy. Same with Ravage. A deluxe Ravage would not have been more complex, would it?

This same reviewer puts 9 steps for Signal Flare and 10 steps for both deluxe Prowl and Hotshot.

We dont even have to look there, just look at your most recently aquired Scout figures, TAV Frenzy adn Rumble. Are they less complex than any of the deluxe CW figures?

The Scout class was just a smaller deluxe without sacrificing detail and complexity and I will stand by that. Some Legends toys have done a good job sticking to that idea, such as Blackjack, who is also as complex as both his fellow deluxe class TFs AND combiner wars Silverbolt.


Oh and Sabr, yeah that Optimus scales with Megatronus. I just didnt think about him since I dont own him yet. I hope to soon, just so that Optimus isnt as alone.

william-james88 wrote:

Cobotron wrote:

The best part of the scout class was that it was as detailed and complex as the deluxe class

True for some of the Gen. scout releases, but not for Beast Wars and Energon. They were heavily simplified. Especially BW with their flippy gimmicks, but no less detailed.

Ah but you forget that Beast Wars werent Scout Class figures, they were basic figures. The first ever Scout Class figures were for energon and Signal Flare, Divebomb and Strongarm are as complex as deluxe Hotshot and Mega Ironhide for instance. Cruellock had less steps but that was due to design of the toy. Same with Ravage. A deluxe Ravage would not have been more complex, would it?

This same reviewer puts 9 steps for Signal Flare and 10 steps for both deluxe Prowl and Hotshot.

We dont even have to look there, just look at your most recently aquired Scout figures, TAV Frenzy adn Rumble. Are they less complex than any of the deluxe CW figures?

The Scout class was just a smaller deluxe without sacrificing detail and complexity and I will stand by that. Some Legends toys have done a good job sticking to that idea, such as Blackjack, who is also as complex as both his fellow deluxe class TFs AND combiner wars Silverbolt.


Oh and Sabr, yeah that Iptimus scales with Mgatronus. I just didnt think about him since I dont own him yet. I hope to soon, just so that Optimus isnt as alone.

Energon Divebomb is awesome

I agree with Will. I think the only true scout I own is Windcharger. But in my mind scout class figures are just as complicated/articulated as deluxe class figures. I find that we are starting to get a lot a variation across the lines lately. Some of the legends figures are a decent amount more involved than others.

With that in mind, legion Fixit is more articulated but with a simpler transformation (he just kinda lays down) than the warrior class figures in the RID line. Would that make him a super scout figure? Mega legion?

Oh wow this guy actually looks great. If they made a Nemesis Prime version as well I'd sell my Legends Nemesis Prime and buy both versions of this for my Legends collection...Oh wait, then he'd tower over my Legends Megatron. Maybe not.

Point is though he looks awesome.

Will, when I excluded the Gen. releases, I was thinking Breecher, Windcharger, and even Frumble. Those toys are by far the most complex of this class size, Heck Frumble are more complex than say CW deluxes.

But OK, you have me on your better grasp on the chronological time line of the name change of these classes. They're all the same with a different name in my book. Remember Legions used to be Legends?
Details!
These guys are most akin to Cyberverse Commanders, hence they are considered so by their makers. Those Commanders are some great figures.

But in the end... Will! I thought you were excited about these guys?



I like Mega Legions.
Divebomb IS the best!