In Hand Images of Red Card Exclusive Legacy Red Cog Weapon Pack

I hope he holds together better than Cog...mine keeps falling apart at the waist when I look at him funny...

Really like the look of all of those weapons too.

Red card? You must mean red COG.

Guess I'm just gonna take my chance on finding in store. Found Road Rage in store twice and some people found Redwing in store so it's not impossible

....I may have to scout for someone that's willing to part ways with that small weapons dump that comes with Red Cog.

Nemesis Destron wrote::-? ....I may have to scout for someone that's willing to part ways with that small weapons dump that comes with Red Cog.

I wish you good luck.

Posting this here in case they don't post my news.

Video review if Legacy deluxe class Elita-1

https://youtu.be/LwT8dLkBWn4

Sabrblade wrote:

Emerje wrote:

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:

Emerje wrote:

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:

Sentinel_Primal wrote:

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:

Overcracker wrote:Very very nice. Glad I pre-ordered him. Can't wait for pics of Breakdown and DeadEnd to start showing up.

Dead End got on Chefatron a while ago. Go check it out!

Think you're thinking of Wildrider

Nope! If you didn't already know, Dead End is knock out:
https://youtu.be/taNv166cH2M

Knock Out isn't part of Menasor in any way. A proper G1 Breakdown and Dead End are coming.

Emerje

Maybe. I'm not sure we've had so much news recently that I might be getting confused

There's no maybe about it. At the same reveal that gave us Knock Out, Wildrider and Motormaster we were specifically told we had to wait before they could show us the last two members.

Emerje

I think the confusion is that he thinks Knock Out is a Stunticon. Like he's Dead End renamed for Trademark reasons or something, based on the fact that he's a red Decepticon car, when Knock Out actually isn't a Stunticon at all.

I always knew knock out wasn't a stunticon. But I knew breakdown was. With all the recent news I took a crazy guess and decided Knock out might be Dead end. But if you think about it more they are barely the same, just both red car decepticons.

Dominus Prime wrote:Posting this here in case they don't post my news.

Video review if Legacy deluxe class Elita-1

https://youtu.be/LwT8dLkBWn4

Prime vs Prime probably thinks he is so cool! I don't think he new that Chefatron had Elita One up weeks before him!

I never cared for pvp reviews. He's the king of run on sentences and his knowledge is mediocre. Hate that ppl like him get these figs way before we do

Dominus Prime wrote:I never cared for pvp reviews. He's the king of run on sentences and his knowledge is mediocre. Hate that ppl like him get these figs way before we do

I'm not a fan of their opinions either, but It gives us an early look at the figure, so you an form your own.

Agreed

Dominus Prime wrote:Posting this here in case they don't post my news.

Video review if Legacy deluxe class Elita-1

https://youtu.be/LwT8dLkBWn4

He's not the first with a review this time, it's not news

william-james88 wrote:

Dominus Prime wrote:Posting this here in case they don't post my news.

Video review if Legacy deluxe class Elita-1

https://youtu.be/LwT8dLkBWn4

He's not the first with a review this time, it's not news

yes, but the videos reviewing the same leaked product usually come out at about the same time.

I don't live in the forums to see what's posted etc. If I see something, I submit it. If it's new and news, cool. If not, that's cool too. Don't really care if I'm the first or not. Just trying to contribute ma dude

Oh look another illegally obtained transformer from a certain Youtube poster, Ill pass on watching it.
No box, no instructions, no mention to how he gets it so quickly = illegally obtaining it.
Not to mention his voice especially his ridiculous inflections on certain words is annoying (I watched one video when he first started posting some time back) not to mention his knowledge is sketchy.

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Yea, I can't stand him either and couldn't agree more

Dominus Prime wrote:I don't live in the forums to see what's posted etc. If I see something, I submit it. If it's new and news, cool. If not, that's cool too. Don't really care if I'm the first or not. Just trying to contribute ma dude

Sorry if it sourdes rough, I didn't have much time and just wanted to say why you wouldnt see it front page. Very thankful for your submission (and all submissions)

We have lots of new stock images of the upcoming Legacy figures, including in packaging images of deluxes Tarantulas, Elita 1, Knockout and Wildrider. While Wildrider's backpack is mistransformed it shows that the back kibble can be all bunched up for a different look. There are also more images from Takara for the same toys as well as Metroplex and Motormaster.

Ooof...I'm not a huge fan of the huge platforms on the back of Menasors feet.

o.supreme wrote:Ooof...I'm not a huge fan of the huge platforms on the back of Menasors feet.

I am a fan of the increased stability they likely provide.

I still can't picture the final Menasor, with the weird framework system.

But I LOVE Wilrider's twin super soakers!

o.supreme wrote:Ooof...I'm not a huge fan of the huge platforms on the back of Menasors feet.

I bet with the car hoods above it, it's not that noticeable in hand and that make the gestalt more stable.

What I really don't like is how short/stumpy Menasor looks. Without the Combiner Wars' scramble city play pattern constrant, Legacy Menasor can have a perfectly proportioned body ratio. But Hasbro still came out with a Menasor with stumpy legs and a bit of gorilla arms. The problem is easily solvable if Hasbro added like half an inch to the lower legs and add a ratcheted swivel below the knee, so that the frames holding the cars can rotate 180 degress that fans can choose either toy or toon accurate leg modes (car in front/back). This will probably elongate the proportion of the cargo too, making the alt mode better looking.

It's not too much to ask for a Commander... is it?

cloudballoon wrote:If Hasbro can add like half an inch to lower legs and add a ratcheted swivel below the knee, then fans can choose either toy or toon accurate leg modes (car in front/back),

Both toy and toon had cars in the back. It was only Combiner Wars that reversed it.

Sabrblade wrote:

cloudballoon wrote:If Hasbro can add like half an inch to lower legs and add a ratcheted swivel below the knee, then fans can choose either toy or toon accurate leg modes (car in front/back),

Both toy and toon had cars in the back. It was only Combiner Wars that reversed it.

or as I like to call it, Toy Commercial Animation vs Animated Series design.

Don't know if anyone posted a vid review of Legacy Motormaster, but found one. Not a great reviewer but enough to get an idea of what we're actually getting

https://youtu.be/Ab96aS0vbfo

Cyber Bishop wrote:Oh look another illegally obtained transformer from a certain Youtube poster, Ill pass on watching it.
No box, no instructions, no mention to how he gets it so quickly = illegally obtaining it.
Not to mention his voice especially his ridiculous inflections on certain words is annoying (I watched one video when he first started posting some time back) not to mention his knowledge is sketchy.

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Some of those videos say that the youtuber got money or free things to make the video (the figure) Maybe Hasbro is securely involved after all?

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:

Cyber Bishop wrote:Oh look another illegally obtained transformer from a certain Youtube poster, Ill pass on watching it.
No box, no instructions, no mention to how he gets it so quickly = illegally obtaining it.
Not to mention his voice especially his ridiculous inflections on certain words is annoying (I watched one video when he first started posting some time back) not to mention his knowledge is sketchy.

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Some of those videos say that the youtuber got money or free things to make the video (the figure) Maybe Hasbro is securely involved after all?

I believe in PVP's case, Mark has confirmed that they never send anything to him after someone asked about his Lego Prime review

Sentinel_Primal wrote:

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:

Cyber Bishop wrote:Oh look another illegally obtained transformer from a certain Youtube poster, Ill pass on watching it.v
No box, no instructions, no mention to how he gets it so quickly = illegally obtaining it.
Not to mention his voice especially his ridiculous inflections on certain words is annoying (I watched one video when he first started posting some time back) not to mention his knowledge is sketchy.

[/rant]

Some of those videos say that the youtuber got money or free things to make the video (the figure) Maybe Hasbro is securely involved after all?

I believe in PVP's case, Mark has confirmed that they never send anything to him after someone asked about his Lego Prime review

Weird. I honestly enjoy KOs and early looks, no matter how illegal they are

o.supreme wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

cloudballoon wrote:If Hasbro can add like half an inch to lower legs and add a ratcheted swivel below the knee, then fans can choose either toy or toon accurate leg modes (car in front/back),

Both toy and toon had cars in the back. It was only Combiner Wars that reversed it.

or as I like to call it, Toy Commercial Animation vs Animated Series design.

However people call it, I alway had the cars in front for my toys as long as it can be done and looks better to me.

cloudballoon wrote:

o.supreme wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

cloudballoon wrote:If Hasbro can add like half an inch to lower legs and add a ratcheted swivel below the knee, then fans can choose either toy or toon accurate leg modes (car in front/back),

Both toy and toon had cars in the back. It was only Combiner Wars that reversed it.

or as I like to call it, Toy Commercial Animation vs Animated Series design.

However people call it, I alway had the cars in front for my toys as long as it can be done and looks better to me.

Plus it was a way to give the G1 toy knees I believe

I am just loving Elita 1's robot mode!

Also I am excited for Menasor, show the other 2 stunticons already!

cloudballoon wrote:

o.supreme wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

cloudballoon wrote:If Hasbro can add like half an inch to lower legs and add a ratcheted swivel below the knee, then fans can choose either toy or toon accurate leg modes (car in front/back),

Both toy and toon had cars in the back. It was only Combiner Wars that reversed it.

or as I like to call it, Toy Commercial Animation vs Animated Series design.

However people call it, I alway had the cars in front for my toys as long as it can be done and looks better to me.

I used to think that the lower legs of Menasor was the underside of the vehicle mode, and It wouldn't look too bad that way. surprisingly, I'd prefer the toy accurate approach in this case (I usually wouldn't)

o.supreme wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

cloudballoon wrote:If Hasbro can add like half an inch to lower legs and add a ratcheted swivel below the knee, then fans can choose either toy or toon accurate leg modes (car in front/back),

Both toy and toon had cars in the back. It was only Combiner Wars that reversed it.

or as I like to call it, Toy Commercial Animation vs Animated Series design.

I've always wondered how the animators for the cartoon and commercial (and some of the artists of the day) screwed up so colossally as to get the legs upside down (and Drag Strip in the commercial). I know the animations were full of errors, but that's such a weird mistake to make. I wonder if nobody actually looked at the toy and drew Menasor based on description only.

Emerje

To anyone who preordered Motormaster from Target when the preorders first went up during the "spend $50 save $10" and "spend $100 save $25" sales, please be aware that Target might try to cancel your preorders.

I received an email the other day stating that they would be cancelling the order due to the payment not being able to be processed. This sounds like my fault until I tell you that they put a hold for the funds as soon as the order was placed. Meaning that the funds were already set aside for the items so there's no reason why the payment couldn't be processed. I even used a brand new and unused card for this payment.

It wanted me to change the payment method. However, doing this voids the sale for some reason. I called up customer support and the nice man in India assured me that the order would not be cancelled and that everything about the order was fine on his and his "higher up's" end.

Today I check my email and the order is cancelled. It's Target.com, of course it is.

I can reorder them even though Motormaster is presold out. But again, this voids the sale.

So I called them back up and got a different nice man in India to help me. I explained to him that the reason why it was cancelled was because Target.com seems to hate when people preorder items while on sale and they have the tendency to cancel them. Which is true as most of us can attest to over the years as it seem most cancelled preorders happen when they put up Hasbro preorders while they're running a sale. I also told him that the had been on hold so the funds were always available for the order and that the previous nice man in India told me that everything was going to be fine and not be cancelled.

So this new nice man in India went to his "higher up" and came back to me with an acceptable offer. He told me that not only will he be able to honor the $25 off if I were to repurchase everything on the payment method of my choice but he was going at add an additional $15 off for a grand total of $40 off. However, the full amount was charged first which totaled $109 (I got Blue Marvel as well to bring it up to $100 for the sale). Then I received a refund of $40 and any applicable taxes.



So just be aware that there's a chance Target might try and cancel your preorder if you got it on sale and you can technically still get the sale price if you talk to them to explain. They might even give you a little extra off if they mess something up like they did for me.



I just don't understand how they couldn't process the payment even though they had a hold on the funds the entire time. It's not like I could use that money once the hold was in place. After it was cancelled, my available funds went up by the amount that was on hold. So again, they had the money the entire time but somehow couldn't process the payment. I never have problems anywhere other than Target.com.

I see it as their way to try and wiggle out of the sale that they wanted you to buy in stock items with rather than preorders and they probably thought you'd take it instead of spending hours on the phone. I guess they were wrong. lol

Till-all-R1 wrote:I see it as their way to try and wiggle out of the sale that they wanted you to buy in stock items with rather than preorders and they probably thought you'd take it instead of spending hours on the phone. I guess they were wrong. lol

Not so much hours though and more like 25 minutes total at most.

Despite being a call center in India, this is Target still and they actually knew what they were doing...for the most part. So things went quickly thankfully. If it did take longer I would've given up. Blue Marvel is definitely going on sale on Amazon at some time and I was never really worried about that. It's just that I don't think a better deal for Motormaster is going to show up. I doubt it will last as long as Rodimus did to go to 40% off on Pulse of all places.

PrimeVsPrime just uploaded his review of it.

https://youtu.be/0slWYzXMbAY

i gotta say lads....

...TAKE MY MONEY !

its amazing some of the engineering in it.

Transformers Legacy commander class Motormaster has been out in Australia for a little while now. We posted many in hand images but we never posted a video review. Some fans have sent some in and we are sharing this one from Grim, who reviewed it first after purchasing it at retail. Grim goes through the whole gamut, showing how to go from one mode to another. He even has the Arialbots come in to form the legs for fun.

Enjoy!

Well, credit due where credits due, they increased the compatability with the stunticons in that they can all fit in the same box as motormaster.

Trailer not being able to store or at least release a stunticon sucks...at the very minimum they could have given it fold out pegs like on jetfire so bots could hitch a ride on the side of it. Those warrped wheels tho...that would be an instant return for refund for me.

The base mode...yeagh that's not compatable either other than some vbad looking terrain for them to hide behind and no ramp or little black car. Then to top that off not use any kind of connecting mechanism that they have a choice of using to link it to other bases, yikes.

The way the hands sit on bot mode is just off too they should be more central with the stunticon attached. Going to take a few upgrades to sort this thing out but nothing new there.

Shame Optimus Primes cab should have been the size of motormasters to begin with.

I was on the no side of the fence. After seeing how it really is and for that price, that fence is so far behind me, I cannot see it. The wheels could be an isolated incident, but I'm not willing to gamble that much on a robot that looks that bad.

Grahf_ wrote:To anyone who preordered Motormaster from Target when the preorders first went up during the "spend $50 save $10" and "spend $100 save $25" sales, please be aware that Target might try to cancel your preorders.

I received an email the other day stating that they would be cancelling the order due to the payment not being able to be processed. This sounds like my fault until I tell you that they put a hold for the funds as soon as the order was placed. Meaning that the funds were already set aside for the items so there's no reason why the payment couldn't be processed. I even used a brand new and unused card for this payment.

It wanted me to change the payment method. However, doing this voids the sale for some reason. I called up customer support and the nice man in India assured me that the order would not be cancelled and that everything about the order was fine on his and his "higher up's" end.

Today I check my email and the order is cancelled. It's Target.com, of course it is.

I can reorder them even though Motormaster is presold out. But again, this voids the sale.

So I called them back up and got a different nice man in India to help me. I explained to him that the reason why it was cancelled was because Target.com seems to hate when people preorder items while on sale and they have the tendency to cancel them. Which is true as most of us can attest to over the years as it seem most cancelled preorders happen when they put up Hasbro preorders while they're running a sale. I also told him that the had been on hold so the funds were always available for the order and that the previous nice man in India told me that everything was going to be fine and not be cancelled.

So this new nice man in India went to his "higher up" and came back to me with an acceptable offer. He told me that not only will he be able to honor the $25 off if I were to repurchase everything on the payment method of my choice but he was going at add an additional $15 off for a grand total of $40 off. However, the full amount was charged first which totaled $109 (I got Blue Marvel as well to bring it up to $100 for the sale). Then I received a refund of $40 and any applicable taxes.



So just be aware that there's a chance Target might try and cancel your preorder if you got it on sale and you can technically still get the sale price if you talk to them to explain. They might even give you a little extra off if they mess something up like they did for me.



I just don't understand how they couldn't process the payment even though they had a hold on the funds the entire time. It's not like I could use that money once the hold was in place. After it was cancelled, my available funds went up by the amount that was on hold. So again, they had the money the entire time but somehow couldn't process the payment. I never have problems anywhere other than Target.com.

This happpens all the time, it's pretty well known around here that ordering from target.com is basically a waste of time.

Grahf_ wrote:To anyone who preordered Motormaster from Target when the preorders first went up during the "spend $50 save $10" and "spend $100 save $25" sales, please be aware that Target might try to cancel your preorders.

I received an email the other day stating that they would be cancelling the order due to the payment not being able to be processed. This sounds like my fault until I tell you that they put a hold for the funds as soon as the order was placed. Meaning that the funds were already set aside for the items so there's no reason why the payment couldn't be processed. I even used a brand new and unused card for this payment.

It wanted me to change the payment method. However, doing this voids the sale for some reason. I called up customer support and the nice man in India assured me that the order would not be cancelled and that everything about the order was fine on his and his "higher up's" end.

Today I check my email and the order is cancelled. It's Target.com, of course it is.

I can reorder them even though Motormaster is presold out. But again, this voids the sale.

So I called them back up and got a different nice man in India to help me. I explained to him that the reason why it was cancelled was because Target.com seems to hate when people preorder items while on sale and they have the tendency to cancel them. Which is true as most of us can attest to over the years as it seem most cancelled preorders happen when they put up Hasbro preorders while they're running a sale. I also told him that the had been on hold so the funds were always available for the order and that the previous nice man in India told me that everything was going to be fine and not be cancelled.

So this new nice man in India went to his "higher up" and came back to me with an acceptable offer. He told me that not only will he be able to honor the $25 off if I were to repurchase everything on the payment method of my choice but he was going at add an additional $15 off for a grand total of $40 off. However, the full amount was charged first which totaled $109 (I got Blue Marvel as well to bring it up to $100 for the sale). Then I received a refund of $40 and any applicable taxes.



So just be aware that there's a chance Target might try and cancel your preorder if you got it on sale and you can technically still get the sale price if you talk to them to explain. They might even give you a little extra off if they mess something up like they did for me.



I just don't understand how they couldn't process the payment even though they had a hold on the funds the entire time. It's not like I could use that money once the hold was in place. After it was cancelled, my available funds went up by the amount that was on hold. So again, they had the money the entire time but somehow couldn't process the payment. I never have problems anywhere other than Target.com.

This whole scenario sums up my experience trying to preorder items from wave 2 of Earthrise...almost down to the tee with the sale and everything. And in the end, I think it wound up getting cancelled anyway.

I don't pre-order anything from the mainline, I've never seen a point to it. I only do it for exclusives.

The wave 2 core class figures for Legacy have been ready for distribution for a while now. We saw them available in the east and now they are popping up at specialty stores in the west, like Time Warp Toys in south St Louis, Missouri, which is where TF fan Patrickab7 found Shockwave. He took a few images to show us the toy in hand. We also have more in hand images of the upcoming Ransack who is in an exclusive Buzzworthy Bumblebee 4 pack. Those come from a Chefatron review.

So there is a peg on the bottom! Also it looks like a nicely shrunk down version of Siege Shockwave's alt mode

Emerje wrote:

o.supreme wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

cloudballoon wrote:If Hasbro can add like half an inch to lower legs and add a ratcheted swivel below the knee, then fans can choose either toy or toon accurate leg modes (car in front/back),

Both toy and toon had cars in the back. It was only Combiner Wars that reversed it.

or as I like to call it, Toy Commercial Animation vs Animated Series design.

I've always wondered how the animators for the cartoon and commercial (and some of the artists of the day) screwed up so colossally as to get the legs upside down (and Drag Strip in the commercial). I know the animations were full of errors, but that's such a weird mistake to make. I wonder if nobody actually looked at the toy and drew Menasor based on description only.

Emerje

It is one of the reasons I've always said Menasor is so Fugly. The worst looking combiner in G1. In every other Gestalt, a team member represents it's own limb. Not just a casing over a hollow skeleton.

So I guess they moved away from the Energon weapon gimmick? So far the only new reveal with one was the Commander Blitzwing; not even Cybertron Metroplex has one. Which is a pity, because I actually really liked the gimmick: it was a unifying factor among different characters and styles (or potential styles, looking at you "Prime Universe" Bulkhead and Knock Out) and since it was just an accessory it was perfectly non-intrusive and optional for those who preferred a more accurate figure display.

MaximalNui wrote:So I guess they moved away from the Energon weapon gimmick? So far the only new reveal with one was the Commander Blitzwing; not even Cybertron Metroplex has one. Which is a pity, because I actually really liked the gimmick: it was a unifying factor among different characters and styles (or potential styles, looking at you "Prime Universe" Bulkhead and Knock Out) and since it was just an accessory it was perfectly non-intrusive and optional for those who preferred a more accurate figure display.

Not every Energon weapon is clear plastic. The product descriptions call out the following Wave 2 figures as having Energon weapons:
-Leader Blitzwing (the rocket hands)
-Elita-1 (clear rifles)
-Knock-Out (clear "shield" that combines with his rifle to become the spear)
-Tarantulas (painted buzzsaw)
-Jhiaxus (painted red gun)
And on top of that, the designers have referred to all Deluxe Stunticons so far as having Dark Energon blasters, even though the product descriptions have forgone mentioning them in favor of talking about Menasor.

MaximalNui wrote:So I guess they moved away from the Energon weapon gimmick? So far the only new reveal with one was the Commander Blitzwing; not even Cybertron Metroplex has one. Which is a pity, because I actually really liked the gimmick: it was a unifying factor among different characters and styles (or potential styles, looking at you "Prime Universe" Bulkhead and Knock Out) and since it was just an accessory it was perfectly non-intrusive and optional for those who preferred a more accurate figure display.

Elita-1 has Twin Energon Blasters, Knock Out has an Energon Shield, Tarantulas has an Energon buzzsaw, and Wildrider has Energon Blasters that shoot Dark Energon (same case as Drag Strip's guns).

Not all are translucent plastic, but that's what Hasbro called them upon their official reveal.

The more I’ve seen of Menasor, the more I’m excited to have him in my collection.
I can’t say I’m more excited about any 1 (or even 4) of the Stunticons than I am for Sludge, but in the grand scheme, Hastak has done a really solid job with what we’ve seen so far.