In Hand Images of Netflix Wave 3 Voyagers with Comparisons
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Optimus Primal: https://blacklai1979.blogspot.com/2021/ ... p.html?m=1
Seeker: https://blacklai1979.blogspot.com/2021/ ... r.html?m=1
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Posted by Autobot N on April 1st, 2021 @ 12:59pm CDT
Posted by Razorbeast88 on April 1st, 2021 @ 1:05pm CDT
They gave him like a joker scar
Posted by TOO MUCH ENERGON! on April 1st, 2021 @ 1:06pm CDT
Posted by Spider5800 on April 1st, 2021 @ 1:08pm CDT
What's up with that seeker's mouth? Is that intentional, since he's a "zombie"?
Posted by ZeroWolf on April 1st, 2021 @ 1:20pm CDT
Autobot N wrote:Man, I really hate what they did with Skyquake's face (I don't remember that being in the previous images). Almost ruins the whole figure for me.
I had to go back and look at what you meant since I missed it the first time. Quite clever since technically this bot is dead in the cartoon.
Anyone headcannoning him into some one else can pretend it's a battle scar
Posted by ZeroWolf on April 1st, 2021 @ 2:47pm CDT
Inside Spoiler Pack #3 you'll find a redeco of Siege Megatron (largely looking unchanged from the Voyager set released as part of Wave 1 of this line last year) and a translucent purple Fossilizer Paleotrex redeco (called Skelivore). Accessories wise, you get a Matrix and four straps so Megatron can wear it, and a small D20 looking AllSpark.
You also get some black playdoh like the first set.
There's also text within the box that hints at spoilers within the third part of the Netflix Transformers War for Cybertron cartoon.
We have embedded PrimeVsPrime video below for you to watch and enjoy:
Special thanks to fellow Seibertron user, Dominus Prime for sending this through to us.
What do you think of this review? Do you just want Skelivore? Or are you after the whole package?
Shout out in the Energon Pub and stay tuned to Seibertron for all the latest news and reviews!
Posted by Sabrblade on April 1st, 2021 @ 3:08pm CDT
Eeyup, the Netflix ones are definitely the ones for me.
Never found normal Kingdom Primal, and I've yet to pick up either Cheetor or Rattrap, so I won't have to worry about double-dipping.
Posted by Wolfman Jake on April 1st, 2021 @ 3:56pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:
Eeyup, the Netflix ones are definitely the ones for me.
Never found normal Kingdom Primal, and I've yet to pick up either Cheetor or Rattrap, so I won't have to worry about double-dipping.
Nice comparison shots! Cheetor is the only Netflix release I'll be picking up, though. Rattrap's Kingdom release colors look better to me. The Netflix one is missing his teeth and gives him a cocaine nose to boot. The fur also looks too dark, and all the silver paint apps are also too dark, being more gunmetal instead. With Optimus Primal, it's another give and take situation, like with the alternations to Cheetor's deco between Kingdom and Netflix, i.e., the metallic blue and deeper yellow look better on the Netflix version, but it's missing the paint apps on his legs. For Optimus Primal, the Netflix version gives him gray feet in robot mode, and some nice fine paintwork on the hands, but it gets the robot mode chest color wrong, turning the Kingdom light blue to white. The slightly different shades of blue, white, and red aren't of much consequence, but I much prefer the pure white of the Kingdom version to the off white of the Netflix version. The Kingdom version's red and blue also look brighter to my eyes. Strangely enough, the colors on Optimus Primal's beast mode chest don't match on the Netflix version! You can see that the outsides of his pectorals are a completely different color of gray compared to the hands and face. There's a slight difference too with the Kingdom version, but the contrast is much more subtle. For me, Kingdom has the better Optimus Primal and Rattrap, but neither release gets everything "right." I hope we get another shot at these molds in a few years with some "premium" show-accurate paint jobs.
Posted by Sabrblade on April 1st, 2021 @ 4:45pm CDT
They're not mine.Wolfman Jake wrote:Nice comparison shots!
Not in the Blacklai pics it doesn't. Go back a page to the news post.Wolfman Jake wrote:and gives him a cocaine nose to boot.
For better cheetah mode legs.Wolfman Jake wrote:but it's missing the paint apps on his legs.
For Optimus Primal, the Netflix version gives him gray feet in robot mode, and some nice fine paintwork on the hands, but it gets the robot mode chest color wrong, turning the Kingdom light blue to white.[/quote]Gray, you mean. Like the cartoon:
And the Beast Wars Reborn/Beast Wars 10th Anniversary toy:
And the Beast Wars Telemocha Series toy:
Ryan doesn't have a gallery of the MP yet.
Posted by o.supreme on April 1st, 2021 @ 5:06pm CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on April 1st, 2021 @ 5:34pm CDT
I'm looking forward to have him.
Posted by Tuned Agent on April 1st, 2021 @ 8:01pm CDT
Autobot N wrote:Man, I really hate what they did with Skyquake's face (I don't remember that being in the previous images). Almost ruins the whole figure for me.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure those lines one the side of the mouth are sculpted into both facesculpts. How prominent they appear can vary from copy to copy depending on how well the face is painted. Sometimes it's super obvious like this, or sometimes it's not even noticeable, like on my copy of Thundercracker.
So basically, if you find him in store you'll probably be able to pick one with better face paint. It's what I did with TC and Hotlink.
Posted by william-james88 on April 1st, 2021 @ 9:02pm CDT
Wolfman Jake wrote: I hope we get another shot at these molds in a few years with some "premium" show-accurate paint jobs.
Yeah, like having those hip ball joints be red instead of blue. That would have really helped this Netflix release.
Sabrblade wrote:Gray, you mean. Like the cartoon:
That makes it really dissapointing that the Netflix version chooses not to highlight the abdominal outline then. Also, I am 100% certain that there was a mixup/mistake where Hasbro inverted the colour codes for that chest circle when they sent in the paint specifications to the vietnamese factory. And it was too minor to warrant halting production.
o.supreme wrote:The changes are some of the most minimal I've ever seen. This will be one of those releases, many years from now, that only the most hardcore of fans will be able to notice the difference. 99% of people won't. I'm still saddened that Primal didn't come with 2 Battle Masters, it would have been a nice excuse to get it, but alas, my collection will have none. Neither the Kingdom Primal or this Netflix Voyager offer anything I need for my collection.
I really don't think this particular release was made for anyone who already had these toys. Pretty sure it's just to make sure these characters are on shelves when the Netflix show is released. Hence why the deco differences are minor.
Posted by Spider5800 on April 1st, 2021 @ 9:24pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Gray, you mean. Like the cartoon:
Pretty sure it's blue, but reflective, so it looks lighter in bright settings (both of your pics have light shining directly on it).
In any case, it's definitely darker than the Netflix toy. That looks silver or white.
Posted by Wolfman Jake on April 1st, 2021 @ 11:19pm CDT
Spider5800 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Gray, you mean. Like the cartoon:
Pretty sure it's blue, but reflective, so it looks lighter in bright settings (both of your pics have light shining directly on it).
In any case, it's definitely darker than the Netflix toy. That looks silver or white.
Takara Legends LG-02:
Transformers Masterpiece MP-32:
Takara's stance over the past 7 years has been that light blue is the correct screen-accurate color for Optimus Primal's robot chest.
Posted by Changewinds on April 1st, 2021 @ 11:19pm CDT
I do find it interesting that with the NF BW bots, they seem to be erring in favor of a cohesive beast mode, especially with missing out on Cheetor’s blue paint.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on April 2nd, 2021 @ 1:42am CDT
william-james88 wrote:I really don't think this particular release was made for anyone who already had these toys. Pretty sure it's just to make sure these characters are on shelves when the Netflix show is released. Hence why the deco differences are minor.
Yeah, it's pretty dumb to buy the same toy over and over just for having a different paint job.
I mean, seriously, who does that?
Posted by blackeyedprime on April 2nd, 2021 @ 4:59am CDT
Primals still a pass, happy with the MP but if they do a burning wfc version I'm in
Posted by Rodimus Knight on April 2nd, 2021 @ 7:32am CDT
william-james88 wrote:When the voyagers for wave 3 of the Netflix Transformers line were first shown, lot of fans (including myself) were wondering what was so different with the Optimus Primal / Rattrap release. Well, now that we have some comparison images we can see all the differences. The colours on Primal and Rattrap are a lot more vibrant and full. You'll let us know what you think. These images come from the Blacklai Toybase blog. There is a gallery for Primal and a gallery for the Sparkless Seeker. We now get a really good look at his targetmasters.
Rattrap looks like he's taking a poop here.
Posted by Nuclearxpotato on April 3rd, 2021 @ 8:21am CDT
Rodimus Knight wrote:william-james88 wrote:When the voyagers for wave 3 of the Netflix Transformers line were first shown, lot of fans (including myself) were wondering what was so different with the Optimus Primal / Rattrap release. Well, now that we have some comparison images we can see all the differences. The colours on Primal and Rattrap are a lot more vibrant and full. You'll let us know what you think. These images come from the Blacklai Toybase blog. There is a gallery for Primal and a gallery for the Sparkless Seeker. We now get a really good look at his targetmasters.
Rattrap looks like he's taking a poop here.
Well, compared to a real male rat... those fists are something else entirely.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on April 3rd, 2021 @ 8:37am CDT
Nuclearxpotato wrote:Well, compared to a real male rat... those fists are something else entirely.
"Rattrap, how come you never punch any ennemies?"
"Well...."
Posted by o.supreme on April 4th, 2021 @ 4:55pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on April 4th, 2021 @ 5:04pm CDT
The second Walmart was practically empty. Not even a Cyberverse toy to be found. Just one SS86 Kup and an opened SS86 Jazz.
The third Walmart had the Wave 2 Kingdom Deluxes, so I got Airazor and Ractonite.
Posted by blackeyedprime on April 6th, 2021 @ 12:38pm CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on April 6th, 2021 @ 12:54pm CDT
blackeyedprime wrote:Ordered netflix Prime received Netflix Nemesis Prime most people would probably be bank error in my favor over that -but not me lol even if I'd wanted the figure, will let them know and see what hassle it brings.
Shhhhh.....
Just shut up and take your win!
Posted by Razorbeast88 on April 6th, 2021 @ 1:14pm CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on April 6th, 2021 @ 1:20pm CDT
Posted by blackeyedprime on April 6th, 2021 @ 1:31pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:When you say you recieved Nemesis Prime, you mean you recieved nemmy in Netflix voyager Primes box or spoiler pack 2#? That's a bit of a boo boo either way.
Netflix Takara Nemesis Prime WFC 16 was what I got when I'd ordered WFC-11 Takara Prime. The box isnt odd shaped like the spoiler pack but still an expensive mistake for the retailer to make when they were charging £70 compared to £40.
*I've let them know anyways, probably could have kept the cool snake dude and sold the figure on to buy Prime locally. Idiocy or too honest, unsure which
Posted by sol magnus on April 6th, 2021 @ 1:48pm CDT
blackeyedprime wrote:Ordered netflix Prime received Netflix Nemesis Prime most people would probably be bank error in my favor over that -but not me lol even if I'd wanted the figure, will let them know and see what hassle it brings.
I have a Netflix Prime I'd trade you.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on April 6th, 2021 @ 3:36pm CDT
blackeyedprime wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:When you say you recieved Nemesis Prime, you mean you recieved nemmy in Netflix voyager Primes box or spoiler pack 2#? That's a bit of a boo boo either way.
Netflix Takara Nemesis Prime WFC 16 was what I got when I'd ordered WFC-11 Takara Prime. The box isnt odd shaped like the spoiler pack but still an expensive mistake for the retailer to make when they were charging £70 compared to £40.
*I've let them know anyways, probably could have kept the cool snake dude and sold the figure on to buy Prime locally. Idiocy or too honest, unsure which
Wait... The TAKARA Nemesis Prime?
Man, it's like finding a wallet full of 100$ bills and bringing it to the authorities instead of keeping the cash.
Nah, what you did is good karma.
Posted by Emerje on April 6th, 2021 @ 3:52pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:blackeyedprime wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:When you say you recieved Nemesis Prime, you mean you recieved nemmy in Netflix voyager Primes box or spoiler pack 2#? That's a bit of a boo boo either way.
Netflix Takara Nemesis Prime WFC 16 was what I got when I'd ordered WFC-11 Takara Prime. The box isnt odd shaped like the spoiler pack but still an expensive mistake for the retailer to make when they were charging £70 compared to £40.
*I've let them know anyways, probably could have kept the cool snake dude and sold the figure on to buy Prime locally. Idiocy or too honest, unsure which
Wait... The TAKARA Nemesis Prime?
Man, it's like finding a wallet full of 100$ bills and bringing it to the authorities instead of keeping the cash.
Nah, what you did is good karma.
Wrong Nemesis. WFC-16 is still the Hasbro Spoiler version, Takara Tomy just packages them differently.
Emerje
Posted by o.supreme on April 6th, 2021 @ 4:01pm CDT
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on April 6th, 2021 @ 4:22pm CDT
o.supreme wrote:Wow that is interesting, a pic that most of us have never seen before. i knw the Netflix toys are exclusives t different markets in different regions. I believe the OP said he ordered his from Walmart online... Are they Walmart exclusives in Japan as well?
Japan doesn't have Walmart, instead they're general retail. Whatever difference it makes I don't know, Transformers has a lot of competition from other mecha lines.
Posted by o.supreme on April 6th, 2021 @ 4:46pm CDT
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Transformers has a lot of competition from other mecha lines.
That is true...
Interesting Japan doesn't have walmart, (but China does)... Yet another on the long list of reasons why I want to visit there someday.
Posted by blackeyedprime on April 6th, 2021 @ 5:42pm CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on April 6th, 2021 @ 5:52pm CDT
blackeyedprime wrote:Yeagh Japan's sometimes odd and great for exclusives in retail shops, otherwise I'd have probably never have got my potp Throne monkey (for about £35). I think green Unicron was about £80 at some bic stores but way too much to see and do over there on top of buying cool stuff.
Did Takara include the... black and smelly toxic waste in the box?
Posted by Sabrblade on April 6th, 2021 @ 6:09pm CDT
Looks like it was left out from this release.-Kanrabat- wrote:blackeyedprime wrote:Yeagh Japan's sometimes odd and great for exclusives in retail shops, otherwise I'd have probably never have got my potp Throne monkey (for about £35). I think green Unicron was about £80 at some bic stores but way too much to see and do over there on top of buying cool stuff.
Did Takara include the... black and smelly toxic waste in the box?
Posted by o.supreme on April 6th, 2021 @ 7:07pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Looks like it was left out from this release.
Yeah I'm pretty sure that was only a Hasbro thing. TT doesn't often do silly gimmicks (notice I said OFTEN....)
In other news...I did see a couple more Voyager Prime's today, which means Voyager Soundwaves were yet again missed. I am so glad I'm not wanting this toy, just trying to spot one n the wild is all .
Posted by -Kanrabat- on April 6th, 2021 @ 11:47pm CDT
EDIT: The same two are still there. Still the same price.... Wow.
Posted by Tuned Agent on April 15th, 2021 @ 5:21pm CDT
Both figures in this two-pack are redecos of their regular Kingdom releases in slightly different colors, mostly featuring a darker color palette. Neither deco is truly any more accurate to their original appearances in the Beast Wars cartoon, so their color schemes are likely depicting what they will look like in the upcoming Kingdom portion of Netflix's War for Cybertron Trilogy.
You can view PrimeVsPrime's video review embedded below:
What do you think of these redecos? Do you think they look better that the Kingdom releases? Will you be picking this up? Let us know in the Energon Pub forums!
Posted by sol magnus on April 15th, 2021 @ 5:31pm CDT
Tuned Agent wrote:Greetings Seibertronians! YouTube reviewer and fellow Seibertronian PrimeVsPrime has uploaded a video review of the upcoming Netflix voyager release of Optimus Primal and Rattrap! These figures are due to be released in wave 3 of the Walmart-exclusive Netflix subline later this year.
Both figures in this two-pack are redecos of their regular Kingdom releases in slightly different colors, mostly featuring a darker color palette. Neither deco is truly any more accurate to their original appearances in the Beast Wars cartoon, so their color schemes are likely depicting what they will look like in the upcoming Kingdom portion of Netflix's War for Cybertron Trilogy.
You can view PrimeVsPrime's video review embedded below:
What do you think of these redecos? Do you think they look better that the Kingdom releases? Will you be picking this up? Let us know in the Energon Pub forums!
I already got them, I ain't double-dipping.
Posted by o.supreme on April 15th, 2021 @ 5:48pm CDT
sol magnus wrote:I already got them, I ain't double-dipping.
I don't have them, and these aren't different enough for me to want them either. These are the most minimal changes to a release i can recall in recent memory. These could just be considered a running change of the toys colors and very few would notice if they were in the traditional Kingdom packaging.
Posted by Sabrblade on April 15th, 2021 @ 6:14pm CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on April 15th, 2021 @ 7:12pm CDT
Posted by Rodimus Prime on April 15th, 2021 @ 7:34pm CDT
Posted by sol magnus on April 15th, 2021 @ 9:03pm CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:The only one I want. Of course.
Cheetor??
Posted by o.supreme on April 15th, 2021 @ 9:24pm CDT
If any of these deluxes have any appeal, I guess it would be Cheetor. I posted the pic of the small endcap display a couple weeks ago at a local walmart, there were 4 of each deluxe, I passed on them all. I'll be getting the Seeker merely for the BM's, and Megatron just for Skelivore (and hoping to sell Megatron). Wave 3 is by far the weakest of all the Netflix waves. Aside from hardcore completionists, it really doesn't offer much of anything.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on April 15th, 2021 @ 10:19pm CDT
Posted by Changewinds on April 15th, 2021 @ 10:31pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:blackeyedprime wrote:Yeagh Japan's sometimes odd and great for exclusives in retail shops, otherwise I'd have probably never have got my potp Throne monkey (for about £35). I think green Unicron was about £80 at some bic stores but way too much to see and do over there on top of buying cool stuff.
Did Takara include the... black and smelly toxic waste in the box?
It smells? Had no idea Hasbro made you go excavating for pieces until I saw some of the Netflix reviews.
Still on the fence about Cheetos since I like the darker blue, but not the lack of paint apps elsewhere. And since I already own normal Prime, I’ll skip out on the latest set.
Posted by Spider5800 on April 15th, 2021 @ 10:35pm CDT
In other Netflix figure news, the Wal-Mart near my house had three Cheetors...and nothing else, LOL. I would have expected it to be the reverse, like the above pics, so no idea what happened there. All I wanted was the Cheetor, though, so I was fine with it.
Waiting on my Dinobot to arrive from Pulse and I'm done with the original five (I'm just sticking with Generations Rhinox and Rattrap, they look great with the other Kingdom figures). Still need to find an Airrazor, and likely a Tigatron whenever he comes out.
Still need some more Predacons for this line. Megatron is AMAZING, and Blackarachnia is pretty good, but I'm surprised the only other one they've officially announced is Scorponok. That's over half of the S1 Preds with nothing official on the horizon. I'm filling the gap a little with my Generations Waspinator, but throw us a bone here, guys!