In Hand Images of Masterpiece MP-47 Hound
Tuesday, December 24th, 2019 1:02PM CST
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Take what you will from these but I would wait for criticism until more have it in hand.
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Posted by chuckdawg1999 on December 24th, 2019 @ 1:08pm CST
Posted by -Kanrabat- on December 24th, 2019 @ 1:36pm CST
Posted by Kamijou Touma on December 24th, 2019 @ 1:39pm CST
Posted by angtre on December 24th, 2019 @ 1:56pm CST
Posted by -Kanrabat- on December 24th, 2019 @ 1:57pm CST
Kamijou Touma wrote:I love MP Hound but I like Aqua better.
Me too but not enough to have to pay the required 80$+.
Posted by Evil Eye on December 24th, 2019 @ 2:25pm CST
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on December 24th, 2019 @ 3:05pm CST
Kamijou Touma wrote:I love MP Hound but I like Aqua better.
Aqua?
Posted by -Kanrabat- on December 24th, 2019 @ 4:01pm CST
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Kamijou Touma wrote:I love MP Hound but I like Aqua better.
Aqua?
If you don't know Konosuba, you're missing out.
Posted by Syclone on December 24th, 2019 @ 4:09pm CST
Posted by william-james88 on December 24th, 2019 @ 7:04pm CST
-Kanrabat- wrote:Will, what amaze me the most is not that you already have MP Hound in hand. It's that you have Figma Aqua!
Dont you make fun of those who dont read the text and just looks at the pics?
Posted by -Kanrabat- on December 24th, 2019 @ 8:29pm CST
william-james88 wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:Will, what amaze me the most is not that you already have MP Hound in hand. It's that you have Figma Aqua!
Dont you make fun of those who dont read the text and just looks at the pics?
I read everything but quickly. I somehow missed "a fan" and assumed it was yours. Thus my surprise in "your" sudden interest in Figma. Especially for an expensive one such as Konosuba's Aqua.
As for MP Hound himself, he's a big "meh" for me. I'll stick with my good old Alternator version.
Posted by Emerje on December 24th, 2019 @ 9:24pm CST
-Kanrabat- wrote:william-james88 wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:Will, what amaze me the most is not that you already have MP Hound in hand. It's that you have Figma Aqua!
Dont you make fun of those who dont read the text and just looks at the pics?
I read everything but quickly. I somehow missed "a fan" and assumed it was yours.
You can tell these aren't Will's pictures, there's no sign of his dinning room table and tile floors anywhere to be seen.
The head does look a lot better in these pics, as does the factory paint. Transformation looks to be on par with the likes of Wheeljack or Sunstreaker, complex but not difficult. I think he's going to be a fun one to mess around with.
Emerje
Posted by Mindmaster on December 24th, 2019 @ 11:23pm CST
Posted by Cyberpath on December 25th, 2019 @ 3:28am CST
Posted by Rodimus Prime on December 25th, 2019 @ 5:40am CST
Posted by Cyberpath on December 25th, 2019 @ 6:04am CST
Before I had straightened out MP-44's antennas I wanted to cancel Hound in protest, but the pre-order had already passed the cancellation cutoff date so I left it well enough alone.
Will finally have some green on the shelf.
(But no space!)
Posted by Cyberpath on December 25th, 2019 @ 6:20am CST
Posted by Ironhidensh on December 25th, 2019 @ 9:56am CST
As I'm slowly coming around to embracing the new MP style Takara is going with (while still feeling outraged at the prices, I'm a total mark for paying them), I'm quite looking forward to this!
Posted by High_Q on December 25th, 2019 @ 9:46pm CST
Posted by Master Farr 1 on December 25th, 2019 @ 9:53pm CST
Posted by Cyberpath on December 26th, 2019 @ 4:10am CST
I like him though. It's really Red Alert that bugs me, because he was made back when Takara didn't really invest in major retooling.
Same with the "Plus" line, he was done first, before the retools and fire-effects.
Posted by blackeyedprime on December 26th, 2019 @ 6:16am CST
Posted by Master Farr 1 on December 26th, 2019 @ 6:46am CST
Posted by william-james88 on December 27th, 2019 @ 11:07pm CST
Master Farr 1 wrote:Maybe this one will actually be good for once
Posted by william-james88 on December 27th, 2019 @ 11:14pm CST
Please let us know how your copy turned out and if you are enjoying him!
Posted by Lore Keeper on December 28th, 2019 @ 12:47am CST
Posted by mesh on December 28th, 2019 @ 9:33am CST
I purchased mp-44.......and though it's a great figure....still IT IS NOT worth the price tag! I am regretting the purchase. The only time i ever bought a transformer that expensive was to get my hands on the original g1 Fortress Maximus. ORIGINAL! A product with vintage value. Hell, Soul of Chogokin GX-88 Vehicle Voltron (with numerous parts) was worth less than MP-44.
This is not a good sign. I feel as if the original collectors of MP's have now, or, already have left Takara Tomy for more affordable 3rd party alternatives.
Collecting these figures have gotten a lot harder to obtain on the wallet. However there are multiple alternatives which, if not, are better than the Takara Tomy versions.
The CHUG line is CHUG, a cheaper alternatives at a smaller scale. Just not for me. The plastic is hallow, cheap, ball-joints are always lose after 10 transformations, and the paint apps are insulting and lazy. Again, not for me. For others on a budget it is absolutely perfect.
Seeing the reviews of this mp-hound is disappointing and just solidifies my take on dropping out of the transformers collecting hobby.
I don't know, is it wrong for me to say I've now lost interest in the figures? i'll always be a transformers fan, breather transformers, watch transformers every chance i get.....but I can't afford them anymore. And I refuse to start buying the chug line of figures.
sigh, sad time for older transformers fans that is for sure.
Posted by Hellscream9999 on December 28th, 2019 @ 4:26pm CST
Posted by SpaceKaseJase on December 28th, 2019 @ 4:31pm CST
Posted by william-james88 on December 28th, 2019 @ 9:08pm CST
Hellscream9999 wrote:This - if true and widespread - is just sad, I guess this is just the downside to complex panel-forming, lots of pins to screw things up; but, this has become such a stark trend that I honestly don't see the line succeeding for much longer
I dont know man, the line will succeed as long as people are paying for these things and so far there has been no limit to how much people will pay and keep paying.
Posted by Seibertron on December 28th, 2019 @ 9:26pm CST
SpaceKaseJase wrote:Posted on FB about using lubricant on panel hinges to prevent breakage. Most said just be careful when transforming it, but one guy suggested shock fluid as it doesn't degrade or ruin plastic/paint. What are your thoughts? My MP Hound is coming in a few weeks.
Ace Hardware sells Lub-E, which is a plastic safe product similar to WD40. I've been using it for years, especially on gold plastic figures. Works like a charm to lube up these toys.
Posted by SpaceKaseJase on December 28th, 2019 @ 9:39pm CST
Posted by Ironhidensh on December 28th, 2019 @ 9:53pm CST
william-james88 wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:This - if true and widespread - is just sad, I guess this is just the downside to complex panel-forming, lots of pins to screw things up; but, this has become such a stark trend that I honestly don't see the line succeeding for much longer
I dont know man, the line will succeed as long as people are paying for these things and so far there has been no limit to how much people will pay and keep paying.
*raises hand*
Yeah, I'm living proof of that foolishness
Posted by MCutter on December 29th, 2019 @ 1:46pm CST
william-james88 wrote:... there have also been some breakage reports, some either already broken in the box or after the first transformation and it is all in regards to some tight hinges...
...These are just early reports of course and just as many have received flawless copies.
People who are still buying these: is there any other product you would buy at full MSRP that has a roughly 50% failure rate and no manufacturer warranty?
This poor quality control iteration of the MP line needs to die financially. If we're being asked to pay premium prices, we deserve premium goods.
Posted by Ironhidensh on December 29th, 2019 @ 2:01pm CST
MCutter wrote:william-james88 wrote:... there have also been some breakage reports, some either already broken in the box or after the first transformation and it is all in regards to some tight hinges...
...These are just early reports of course and just as many have received flawless copies.
People who are still buying these: is there any other product you would buy at full MSRP that has a roughly 50% failure rate and no manufacturer warranty?
This poor quality control iteration of the MP line needs to die financially. If we're being asked to pay premium prices, we deserve premium goods.
There is no "50%" failure rate. Its just a few cases being highlighted by the wonders of social media. I have bought every single official MP released in the last ten years, and not a one of them have broken on me.
Posted by william-james88 on December 29th, 2019 @ 2:12pm CST
Ironhidensh wrote:MCutter wrote:william-james88 wrote:... there have also been some breakage reports, some either already broken in the box or after the first transformation and it is all in regards to some tight hinges...
...These are just early reports of course and just as many have received flawless copies.
People who are still buying these: is there any other product you would buy at full MSRP that has a roughly 50% failure rate and no manufacturer warranty?
This poor quality control iteration of the MP line needs to die financially. If we're being asked to pay premium prices, we deserve premium goods.
There is no "50%" failure rate. Its just a few cases being highlighted by the wonders of social media. I have bought every single official MP released in the last ten years, and not a one of them have broken on me.
To counter that, my mp hot rodimus' visor broke off and my mp Dinobot lost his head. But yes, we are indeed more likely to see qc failures highligted as is the nature with complaints in general.
Posted by Cyberpath on December 30th, 2019 @ 5:56am CST
Look how many breaks and cracks --
https://www.tfw2005.com/boards/threads/ ... t-17536242
And that's not all of it, I've also seen some from people that I follow.
Kind of tired of doing "research" every time a new MP comes out -- Takara should improve its QC or make the figures a little less complex.
Anyhow, mine should be here today. Edit: it's here.
Posted by blackeyedprime on December 30th, 2019 @ 6:55am CST
Posted by Cyberpath on December 30th, 2019 @ 7:45am CST
I always have the instructions in-front of me, too. But I don't really bother with them anymore, the figures have grown too complex. Mostly I use them to double check things.
Transformation was not fun. It rarely is the first time; though I suspect I will never like it in this case. So many moving parts, even the wheels and neck transform. You can also transform him without removing the Jeep's gun, spare wheel and jerrycan, but I'm not sure it's worth the effort.
Could have done without the air-mask gimmick, they could have included it as another expression plate instead (same with Hot Rod's goggles. How is it that the star of TFTM had only one expression?) And I wish Hound's faces connected like Inferno and Grapple's.
Weird that Hound's thighs can't bend backwards much. And I find it amusing that he has index finger articulation so he can hold the key like in the pilot mini-series.
I love how almost everything can be stored under his roof. Takara is starting to think about this probably because we've amassed so many MP accessories.
I like the inclusion of a larger-scale Spike Witwicky, shame he doesn't have magnets in his boots like the one from MP-44.
There's no denying that Hound looks good in both modes but I don't know.. it's just so much work.
But this is only my initial impression.
Posted by Ironhidensh on December 30th, 2019 @ 7:54am CST
Posted by -Kanrabat- on December 30th, 2019 @ 8:43am CST
That's why so many things get either "fixed" or greenlighted despite the majority who either never had any problems and/or did not care in the first place.
Posted by Cyberpath on December 30th, 2019 @ 2:11pm CST
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on December 30th, 2019 @ 4:16pm CST
Posted by Cyberpath on December 30th, 2019 @ 4:43pm CST
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on December 30th, 2019 @ 4:46pm CST
Cyberpath wrote:Just realised that I didn't pull out the fin from Hound's cannon. I knew something was bugging me. It's weird how much difference it makes.
Don't feel bad, I didn't notice until you said something.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on December 30th, 2019 @ 6:38pm CST
Ham hands break toys. Remember that folks
Posted by Ironhidensh on December 30th, 2019 @ 7:20pm CST
I dont see anymore frailty than any other masterpiece. Just have to remember that these are collector pieces, and not kids toys like the siege line.
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on December 31st, 2019 @ 1:39am CST
Ironhidensh wrote:Hound is amazing. The transformation is more complex than, say, wheeljack, but a lot simpler than Prime 44.
I dont see anymore frailty than any other masterpiece. Just have to remember that these are collector pieces, and not kids toys like the siege line.
I'm cheap so I treat all my figures with kidd gloves.
Posted by Cyberpath on December 31st, 2019 @ 1:42am CST
Posted by Cyberpath on December 31st, 2019 @ 4:59am CST
Love how he has one cannon design in alt-mode and another in robot-mode. Maybe I'll try again leaving it on for the next transformation.