In Hand Images of Asia Exclusive Shadow Spark Optimus Prime from Transformers: The Last Knight

This deco doesnt just make him look evil. It makes him look...dead?

Where's the Optimus toy? All I see is Skywarp's shadow everywhere.

That looks like it needs a lot more dry-brushing of the metallic colors to look good.

Did they run out of paint when they got to the feet and shoulders? They seem completely devoid of any wash or panel lining.

I don't think it's a bad figure. Just an unnecessary one. Could have at least used Armor Knight version of the mold.

Deadput wrote:

william-james88 wrote:I am really surprised Hasbro hasnt shown the robot mode of that new deluxe bee at any show yet. Do you guys think its because they dont want to draw attention away from that AOE reuse?

But they already have shown him.

So, that's the deluxe TLK Bee? Nice but I may get only on sale. My hive is full enough... But there is a place for the QUEEN.
I mean, the upcoming MP-Movie Bee.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Deadput wrote:

william-james88 wrote:I am really surprised Hasbro hasnt shown the robot mode of that new deluxe bee at any show yet. Do you guys think its because they dont want to draw attention away from that AOE reuse?

But they already have shown him.

So, that's the deluxe TLK Bee? Nice but I may get only on sale. My hive is full enough... But there is a place for the QUEEN.

That's the second TLK Deluxe Bumblebee to be exact. The one in Wave 1 is the AoE redeco.

I realised after I had a think about it that I had seen that Bee before - as I remember the wheels In the feet being an unusual feature.

I don't know if I like or dislike the gun being fixed (if it is fixed) I'm kinda spoiled by Bee's with moving face masks and transforming weapons. Also I feel he needs his Hammer (is it?).

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As for Optimus - I don't mind he colours or the muted deco so much if it's well in keeping with the evil Optimus in the Movie - I would have liked a different colour sword and shield and perhaps a slightly different grey a shade darker and perhaps metallic plastic. I agree the lack of paint on the shoulders is very obvious.

It is a shame they didn't use the newer mould as that is much more fun with the changing face and the more possable feet.

It does inspire me to want to buy a KBB one and paint it like this or go out and buy the Wei Jiang battle damaged Commander though.

I think I'd have preferred a straight up dark deco one that wasn't so burned and scuffed - something that sat between Nemesis Prime and deco and the old 2008 Night Watch Prime (UK/Japan version that has bronze accents instead of allspark blue). Maybe a very dark blue almost black & a deep crimson would have been nice.

But it's an interesting curiosity piece.

RAR wrote:I realised after I had a think about it that I had seen that Bee before - as I remember the wheels In the feet being an unusual feature.

Bumblebee has always had wheels in his feet even in the movies the wheels go there.

I am aware they go there in the CGI model - I was just saying that Wheels in the feet >on the toys< are not especially common - they are usually on the outside of the ankles on the majority of toys - not embedded in the feet and if they are in the middle of the feet they are usually fake wheel like Nitro Bumblebee or TF Prime Weaponizer Bumblebee.

http://www.tfu.info/toytables/movie_bumblebee.htm

RAR wrote:I am aware they go there in the CGI model - I was just saying that Wheels in the feet >on the toys< are not especially common - they are usually on the outside of the ankles on the majority of toys - not embedded in the feet and if they are in the middle of the feet they are usually fake wheel like Nitro Bumblebee or TF Prime Weaponizer Bumblebee.

http://www.tfu.info/toytables/movie_bumblebee.htm

Ah I see what you mean now.

What's with me and misunderstanding people's posts these days?

No problem - I should have been more specific.

Can't tell if I like the Shadow Prime or if he is too spooky. I am still deciding on what would be my first Optimus so that might make my perception a little different since I want a figure to represent Prime in my collection as opposed to "here is a cool variant of his character".

WreckerJack wrote:Can't tell if I like the Shadow Prime or if he is too spooky. I am still deciding on what would be my first Optimus so that might make my perception a little different since I want a figure to represent Prime in my collection as opposed to "here is a cool variant of his character".

Would it help your decision process to know that this toy will only be distributed in Asia and that there will be a mark up if you want to buy it from an importer? I would be surprised if this toy is available for less than $70 at BBTS. How much are you willing to spend on your first Optimus Prime? The Masterpiece is being reissued this year, plus there is a movie masterpiece coming too.

WreckerJack wrote:Can't tell if I like the Shadow Prime or if he is too spooky. I am still deciding on what would be my first Optimus so that might make my perception a little different since I want a figure to represent Prime in my collection as opposed to "here is a cool variant of his character".

I'd say wait and go full MP too. For both the classic and movie versions.

Berserker is getting a one step apparently.



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This is his second known toy I don't think a non-movie character would get two since starting with Aoe they are starting to get light on toy only characters and besides Rollbar from Aoe who only had one original mold anyways most toy only characters have only one toy and they don't usually have their own mold for example Hotshot was just a repaint of Crosshairs with no new parts.

Seibertronian Deadput has let us know that there has been another one-step figure revealed! Beserker, who already has a deluxe class figure coming out, is now getting a one-step, as confirmed by Comercial Papeleroa Aragonesa, SL. While we don't get a view of his transformation scheme, it does appear that he maintains his deluxe class colors and robot mode appearance. His package appears alongside Hound, Megatron, and Grimlocks packages and with the Optimus Prime, Barricade, and Bumblebee figures. He will either be a wave 2 figure or potentially in a 3rd wave. Check out the image below, and let us know what you think in the comments section below!

Wait is Berserker a police car in that one step or just a squished van?

Can't say for sure because the image is small and it's in a package.

Edit: Also 20 points news credits for Gryffindor Deadput!

I think its like age of extinction "the guys in the scary cars are back."

That optimus.. i thought it was a tf:prime ultra magnus.. might as well be ultra magnus.. looks like ultra magnus.

Poyguimogul wrote:I think its like age of extinction "the guys in the scary cars are back."

That optimus.. i thought it was a tf:prime ultra magnus.. might as well be ultra magnus.. looks like ultra magnus.

Those Vehicons were based on cars in the movie akin to Longarm in 2007 and Rollbar in Aoe and they only had one original each mold anyways and it was not a deluxe.

As far as we know Berserker is not based on any particular vehicle in the movie and Berserker is also part of wave 1 with Bee and Barricade who are booth very important characters in the upcoming movie, yes Slash is in the same wave too but first it's a repaint not a new mold and secondly Slash or multiples of him were supposed to be in Aoe being in plenty of concept art so for all we know Slash is in TLK this time. most of these toy only characters come in later waves such as the Aoe Vehicon you mentioned who was an end of the line figure.

Also importantly Berserker has two new molds for him something Rollbar doesn't even have since his deluxe figure was just a repaint of a Generations figure as well as being in an exclusive box set I'm sure that Berserker is one of those hi and bye characters who won't be named in the movie but then again we also had no idea Nitro was a character until we saw him in a trailer then his toy and name being leaked for all we know Berserker never transforms in the movie.

I think Berserker is either one of the cons in the high security prison that was mentioned in early information or the junkyard with disposed cons who might or might not be dead which is for sure where Barricade comes from.

AoE Rollbar did get his own mold, a One-Step Changer. Funnily enough, it's a Chevrolet Sonic RS, fully licensed even, and his robot mode is based of RiD 2001 X-Brawn:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:AoE Rollbar did get his own mold, a One-Step Changer. Funnily enough, it's a Chevrolet Sonic RS, fully licensed even, and his robot mode is based of RiD 2001 X-Brawn:

I did say that he did only get one mold.

Point is that Berserker has two new original molds to himself while Rollbar only had one along with most toy only characters Rollbar's deluxe was only a repaint of a Generations figure using the head that doesn't fit with the movie aesthetic seriously the boxart has the Crosscut head and his one step has a similar head which fits in much better.

Why invest money into two new molds for a toy only character instead of say Onslaught, Hooligan or Mohawk who are in the movie?

I don't think Berserker is important or anything heck I doubt he will transform but I still think he will appear he could always be fulfilling a role similar to Demolishor and Sideways from ROTF one of the behind scenes videos from awhile ago had a Crankcase head prop in a blink and you'll miss it shot.

Deadput wrote:Why invest money into two new molds for a toy only character instead of say Onslaught, Hooligan or Mohawk who are in the movie?

i dont understand what the debate is about, Beserker is in the film. We see him in that same shot with megatron and onslought in the trailer.

He's right in the middle of this pic:




And if onslought gets a toy, it will just be a retool of rotf longhaul since they reused that model for him. Hell, hes even the same colour, so technically we already have a toy of him in the form of Longhaul. I have a junker with some sump truck parts missing, that will make a pefect Movie onslought.

While we saw the Legion Class figures for Transformers: The Last Knight at the New York Toy Fair, we had not recieved any official images for them and the ones on the show floor were painted prototypes. Well, we finally have our first official image of the new Legion Megatron figure as well as the others part of the first 2 waves which also includes Bumblebee, Optimus, Barricade, Grimlock, Crosshairs, and Drift, with Bumblebee being repacked for wave 2. Many are redecos of previous legion toys. These iamges come to us from Amazon France and ACD Disribution.

Mis-transformation at it's best!


Tee Hee Hee Hee Hee!

Cobotron wrote:Mis-transformation at it's best!


Tee Hee Hee Hee Hee!

dino head crotch

Wait! Is that a new Bumblebee? I have a couple old Legion Bees, but they don't have fold out feet and a blaster hand.
Maybe I just don't have that one.

Cobotron wrote:Wait! Is that a new Bumblebee? I have a couple old Legion Bees, but they don't have fold out feet and a blaster hand.
Maybe I just don't have that one.

same mold just new arm

Cobotron wrote:Wait! Is that a new Bumblebee? I have a couple old Legion Bees, but they don't have fold out feet and a blaster hand.
Maybe I just don't have that one.

It's the DOTM mold.

Legion Megatron will be mine!

Also, I don't like the deluxe Drift, but I may pick up the legion one. It actually looks decent

This may seem funny but are there any weapons included in them?

IAPETUS_PRIME wrote:This may seem funny but are there any weapons included in them?

Legions don't really do that anymore I'm afraid

Bad enough when it's a redeco of an old toy of the same character but it's really annoying when it's a redeco of a different character from a different Transformers incarnation. I'd love a proper legion class Grimlock...

Most of these seem really lazy.

Also paint those windows on Bumblebee.

Megatron is decent for his size.

Kurona wrote:[quot="IAPETUS_PRIME"]This may seem funny but are there any weapons included in them?

Legions don't really do that anymore I'm afraid [/quote]

IAPETUS_PRIME wrote:

Kurona wrote:

IAPETUS_PRIME wrote:This may seem funny but are there any weapons included in them?

Legions don't really do that anymore I'm afraid

Thanks
I didn't know that coz the last time I bought a legion class was a cyberverse prime one which included weapons.

IAPETUS_PRIME wrote:

Kurona wrote:[quot="IAPETUS_PRIME"]This may seem funny but are there any weapons included in them?

Legions don't really do that anymore I'm afraid

IAPETUS_PRIME wrote:

Kurona wrote:

IAPETUS_PRIME wrote:This may seem funny but are there any weapons included in them?

Legions don't really do that anymore I'm afraid

Thanks
I didn't know that coz the last time I bought a legion class was a cyberverse prime one which included weapons.

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A bomb just exploded into the quote box.

But yeah, since AoE, legions are absurdly expensive and come with no weapons at all.
If I buy any, it will only when on clearance when the TLK line phase out.

Yeeaah, is Hasbro's budget blown? 'Cause there's barely a new mold in this lineup.

PrymeStriker wrote:Yeeaah, is Hasbro's budget blown? 'Cause there's barely a new mold in this lineup.

crosshairs megatron and drift are new molds

PrymeStriker wrote:Yeeaah, is Hasbro's budget blown? 'Cause there's barely a new mold in this lineup.

Since AoE, there's a great apathy going on in movie legions. The golden years for this size class was the DOTM's and Prime's Cyberverse times. Those were glorious toys! There was even some playsets. Unfortunately, the sales were surely lackluster for that concept to last for only DOTM and Prime.

A pity the Cyberverse line has been replaced with this paltry Legion lineup. I'd love to see a Commander class figure of Optimus in his AoE/TLK body.

Black Hat wrote:A pity the Cyberverse line has been replaced with this paltry Legion lineup. I'd love to see a Commander class figure of Optimus in his AoE/TLK body.

Yeah that would be neat. Oh well.

IAPETUS_PRIME wrote:This may seem funny but are there any weapons included in them?

Well Megatron comes with a weapon since his cannon is part of his alt mode, so at least there is that (kinda like Legion megatronus).

Drift i might pick up, croshairs and megatron yes, and probably barricade since I never got the mold.

But dear god does prime need paint. At least they rereleased the good legion but it looks like a production sample not a finished product. Also this is the second time movie grimlock used that mold and they still haven't retooled or done anything to change it.

william-james88 wrote:i dont understand what the debate is about, Beserker is in the film. We see him in that same shot with megatron and onslought in the trailer.

He's right in the middle of this pic:




And if onslought gets a toy, it will just be a retool of rotf longhaul since they reused that model for him. Hell, hes even the same colour, so technically we already have a toy of him in the form of Longhaul. I have a junker with some sump truck parts missing, that will make a pefect Movie onslought.

Uhh Will that's not Berserker that's Hooligan the two have different models Berserker is just Crankcase with according to the toy no new parts while Hooligan uses Crowbar but with new vehicle kibble.

I wouldn't be talking about Berserker like this if he actually was in some trailers.




Is the same as Crowbar




And a retool of Long Haul wouldn't even work with the two turning into completely different vehicles in different proportions Long Haul's dump truck toy is short while Onslaught's tow truck Truck is pretty darn long.

Onslaught also has a minigun on his left arm and a big claw thing on his right.

Deadput wrote:

william-james88 wrote:i dont understand what the debate is about, Beserker is in the film. We see him in that same shot with megatron and onslought in the trailer.

He's right in the middle of this pic:




And if onslought gets a toy, it will just be a retool of rotf longhaul since they reused that model for him. Hell, hes even the same colour, so technically we already have a toy of him in the form of Longhaul. I have a junker with some sump truck parts missing, that will make a pefect Movie onslought.

Uhh Will that's not Berserker that's Hooligan the two have different models Berserker is just Crankcase with according to the toy no new parts while Hooligan uses Crowbar but with new vehicle kibble.
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When did we know that guy was gonna be called hooligan in the film?

william-james88 wrote:
Uhh Will that's not Berserker that's Hooligan the two have different models Berserker is just Crankcase with according to the toy no new parts while Hooligan uses Crowbar but with new vehicle kibble.
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When did we know that guy was gonna be called hooligan in the film?[/quote]

The very beginning?

Well if I remember right his name along with Mohawk who is confirmed by the way Ryan (Seibertron) can vouch for me came from the very same rumor which spoke of Squeeks (who was revealed and confirmed that day) Cogman, Mini Dinobots, Megatron's jet mode and I think the TRF as well.

This also came from the very same website that talked about rumors that came true back in AOE during the very early days including Hound, Drift, Lockdown, Dinobots and maybe Galvatron too.

Hooligan and Mohawk's names were confirmed by people on set and the times Bay invited the fans to two separate events I would not be making claims if I did not know they were true plus I know things plenty of little things but still things.

Edit: To clarify Hooligan is the rusty teal VW van.

Am I the only one who likes these Legion figures? (Joking.)

Jokes aside, the only ones I really dig are Grimlock, Megatron, Crosshairs and Dragonstorm (not revealed in this post, but seen at Toy Fair). Grimlock at least has movie-accurate paint this time around, though if it's suffering from too much mold degradation I can fall back on the AoE Legion I already own.

Megatron looks really good for a Legion. That being said, all of these TLK Megatron toys look great. And it's nice to finally get a Legion Crosshairs. It's a shame that Dragonstorm now appears to be showing up in a later wave, though. He's the new character that I'm most curious about. Plus, you'd think Hasbro would want to promote a newer character with a new mold over repaints depicting established characters.

Deadput wrote:Edit: To clarify Hooligan is the rusty teal VW van.

I am sorry but I just dont understand. Didnt you just say that Hooligan is the guy who looks like beserker? Thats exactly what you wrote above when you said I was wrong.

So here is my question, who is the dread character in that shot if it isnt beserker? And where was it confirmed that the dread is not beserker? I have looked through our news and there is 0 official confirmation that its not beserker we see in that pic. If you find the article, please let me know because I would like to be informed as much as possible.

As far as I know, that dread in the shot is Beserker. The toys dont always look exactly like the CG models, Barricade is a good example of that. A better example is leader Optimus whos toy looks nothing like the CG model. And yet that is a toy of Optimus, so this Beserker toy is a toy of that Dread in the image, simple as that.

william-james88 wrote:

Deadput wrote:Edit: To clarify Hooligan is the rusty teal VW van.

I am sorry but I just dont understand. Didnt you just say that Hooligan is the guy who looks like beserker? Thats exactly what you wrote above when you said I was wrong.

So here is my question, who is the dread character in that shot if it isnt beserker? And where was it confirmed that the dread is not beserker? I have looked through our news and there is 0 official confirmation that its not beserker we see in that pic. If you find the article, please let me know because I would like to be informed as much as possible.

As far as I know, that dread in the shot is Beserker. The toys dont always look exactly like the CG models, Barricade is a good example of that. A better example is leader Optimus whos toy looks nothing like the CG model. And yet that is a toy of Optimus, so this Beserker toy is a toy of that Dread in the image, simple as that.

Edit: I can't find it on Seibertron but Tfw2005 has the original "rumors" http://news.tfw2005.com/2016/12/06/transformers-last-knight-plot-roundup-329777

Hooligan is the dread in the trailer but Berserker is a different character is what I said the dread in the trailer has rusty Vw parts their hard to spot but they are there when Seibertron and all the other fans went to the first event somebody there confirmed that the Vw truck is a character named Hooligan who looks like a dread.

I don't just look at Seibertron stuff most of the things I know (besides the other things I know) come from people who talked to people who work on set and from the Tfw2005 movie board and there is info coming from there all the time.

Plus Berserker uses Crankcase's cgi model which is not who the character in the trialer looks like Hooligan is a Crowbar reuse so if Berserker is Hooligan not only do they get the names wrong but they have the entire character's robot and vehicle wrong.

Edit: The face is not the same either
These faces


Are not this face



It's this face (Crowbar from DOTM)

I see now. We will see what happens but it wouldnt be the first time a toy is off from what we see in the film.

william-james88 wrote:I see now. We will see what happens but it wouldnt be the first time a toy is off from what we see in the film.

Not saying that can't be the case (I'm a terrible unfocused explainer I could of told you this much better in a real face to face conversation I'm just horrible with a keyboard)

In fact I do have a feeling that Berserker could just be a replacement for Hooligan in the toyline since Volkswagen is a little stingy when it comes to "war" media but Takara was able to get the licences for the VW beetle so who knows the Crankcase head was seen as a prop in a behind the scenes video but for like 2 seconds I'm pretty sure most people would of missed it.

But if Berserker is a replacement then why did Hasbro go with a remake of the Crankcase body when they already had a mold which they just used in that AOE boxset that came with Rollbar who was just a repaint and not his own mold instead of making a toy of Crowbar who never got the deluxe treatment and would be much more accurate.

I'm thinking Berserker is just a minor character going to be killed off like Sideways in ROTF but I'm not saying Berserker is in the film I'm just saying he most likely is and if not then well that would be weird considering Hasbro's current thinking of keeping toy only characters with new molds to a minimum that sort of started with Dotm and then kept going in Aoe.