Images for Toy Accurate Redeco Masterpiece MP-38 Beast Wars Convoy
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The figure's MSRP is 12960 Yen ($113,64) but it can currently be preordered for lower than that from Japanese retailers for the likes of $90 USD.
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Posted by Kurona on January 12th, 2017 @ 11:18am CST
Posted by Sabrblade on January 12th, 2017 @ 11:26am CST
Smile, Convoy! You're a movie star!
Though, ew, that Sourcebook art.
Posted by BluePhirePB on January 12th, 2017 @ 12:32pm CST
Posted by Big Grim on January 12th, 2017 @ 12:37pm CST
Posted by Ironhidensh on January 12th, 2017 @ 12:38pm CST
Posted by Sabrblade on January 12th, 2017 @ 12:39pm CST
This helps make the MP toy's name make a whole lot more sense since it was in that movie that he was referred to as a Legendary Supreme Commander.
Posted by Cobotron on January 12th, 2017 @ 12:40pm CST
I like it! Still would have loved some sculpted fur texture, but he may have to be mine.
This is exactly why I decided to wait on the new Megatron. fingers crossed
Posted by Microraptor on January 12th, 2017 @ 1:07pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:
Though, ew, that Sourcebook art.
At least it's not Silverbolt!
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 12th, 2017 @ 1:29pm CST
Posted by SureShot18 on January 12th, 2017 @ 1:52pm CST
Posted by Sabrblade on January 12th, 2017 @ 1:55pm CST
SureShot18 wrote:Ooh that's super nice. Now I know I'm not getting this mold because I couldn't decide between the decos.
Posted by Sabrblade on January 12th, 2017 @ 2:46pm CST
Posted by Emerje on January 12th, 2017 @ 3:39pm CST
Emerje
Posted by Va'al on January 12th, 2017 @ 4:18pm CST
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 12th, 2017 @ 4:25pm CST
MP-12 Lambor & MP-14 Alert
MP-17 Prowl, MP-18 Streak & MP-19 Smokescreen
MP-20 Wheeljack & MP-23 Exhaust
MP-22 Ultra Magnus & MP-31 Delta Magnus (new face plates and figurine)
And Starscream got two releases based on the same basic mold, yet got two numbers: MP-03 and MP-11.
The sub-numbering is a bit more random and probably impossible to figure out, but they have being more limited runs in common.
That said, can I say I called this one?
Posted by Cobotron on January 12th, 2017 @ 4:38pm CST
Only if you can prove it.JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:That said, can I say I called this one?
JK
Posted by Sabrblade on January 12th, 2017 @ 4:45pm CST
The numbering logic restarted with MP-10. Remember the same mold was used for the same character with MP-1 and MP-4 as well. But since the MP-10 refresh, every new number has been a mass retail figure of either a new character, a new mold, or both; but never the same character with the same mold up until now.JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:And Starscream got two releases based on the same basic mold, yet got two numbers: MP-03 and MP-11.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 12th, 2017 @ 5:13pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:The numbering logic restarted with MP-10. Remember the same mold was used for the same character with MP-1 and MP-4 as well. But since the MP-10 refresh, every new number has been a mass retail figure of either a new character, a new mold, or both; but never the same character with the same mold up until now.JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:And Starscream got two releases based on the same basic mold, yet got two numbers: MP-03 and MP-11.
I don't think character has much to do with it per se.
MP-38 isn't necessarily a straight re-release, depending on how one looks at it. Disregarding the character argument, it's the same basic mold, no retooling, but it's similar to MP-31 Delta Magnus in that he's got new accessories, yet got a new number. They could have just as easily re-released him straight, no alterations, as MP-32+ or something.
Posted by ScottyP on January 12th, 2017 @ 5:21pm CST
Anyhow, I think this looks really awesome. Great toy in a fun deco with a bunch of new accessories. Totally in for it and I hope they do the same thing for Cheetor!
Posted by Sabrblade on January 12th, 2017 @ 6:06pm CST
But Delta Magnus was a new character. He wasn't Ultra Magnus.JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Sabrblade wrote:The numbering logic restarted with MP-10. Remember the same mold was used for the same character with MP-1 and MP-4 as well. But since the MP-10 refresh, every new number has been a mass retail figure of either a new character, a new mold, or both; but never the same character with the same mold up until now.JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:And Starscream got two releases based on the same basic mold, yet got two numbers: MP-03 and MP-11.
I don't think character has much to do with it per se.
MP-38 isn't necessarily a straight re-release, depending on how one looks at it. Disregarding the character argument, it's the same basic mold, no retooling, but it's similar to MP-31 Delta Magnus in that he's got new accessories, yet got a new number. They could have just as easily re-released him straight, no alterations, as MP-32+ or something.
It's been like the following (new tooling/accessories or not) ever since MP-10 and MP-11:
MP-12 Lambor - new mold, new character
MP-13 Soundwave w/ Condor - new molds, new characters
MP-14 Alert - old mold, new character
MP-15 Rumble & Jaguar - new molds, new characters
MP-16 Frenzy & Buzzsaw - old molds, new characters
MP-17 Prowl - new mold, new character
MP-18 Streak - old mold, new character
MP-19 Smokescreen - old mold new character
MP-20 Wheeljack - new mold, new character
MP-21 Bumble - new mold, new character
MP-22 Ultra Magnus - new mold, new character
MP-23 Exhaust - old mold, new character
MP-24 Star Saber - new mold, new character
MP-25 Tracks - new mold, new character
MP-26 Road Rage - old mold, new character
MP-27 Ironhide - new mold, new character
MP-28 Hot Rodimus - new mold, new character (for this refresh era, and technically MP-9 was Rodimus Convoy, but regardless, it's a new mold anyway)
MP-29 Destron Laserwave - new mold, new character
MP-30 Ratchet - old mold, new character
MP-31 Delta Magnus - old mold, new character
MP-32 Convoy (Beast Wars) - new mold, new character
MP-33 Inferno - new mold, new character
MP-34 Cheetus - new mold, new character
MP-35 Grapple - old mold, new character
MP-36 Megatron - new mold, new character (again, for this refresh era, and it is a new mold anyway)
MP-37 Artfire w/ Nightstick - one old mold and one new mold, both new characters
MP-38 Convoy (Beast Wars) Legendary Supreme Commander Ver. - old mold, old character
This is the first main line mass retail MP to be an "old mold, old character" case, whereas all previous cases like this, for the refresh era, have instead been exclusives w/ lettered ID numbers. By all reason, this toy ought to be a lettered exclusive instead of a unique-numbered mass retail MP.
Posted by Va'al on January 12th, 2017 @ 8:52pm CST
ScottyP wrote:There's no logic to the numbering. You can find something, sure, but I'm pretty sure it just comes down to the arbitrary whim of someone for no really good reason every time.
Just throwing this one back out there.
Posted by sol magnus on January 12th, 2017 @ 9:17pm CST
Va'al wrote:ScottyP wrote:There's no logic to the numbering. You can find something, sure, but I'm pretty sure it just comes down to the arbitrary whim of someone for no really good reason every time.
Just throwing this one back out there.
The problem there is Saberblade is actually right about the nature of the releases - Supreme Commander ver. is the only one breaking the "theme".
As for this figure, I was totally out on Beast Wars Masterpiece. This release, however, has me at least thinking about it.
Posted by SureShot18 on January 12th, 2017 @ 9:19pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:SureShot18 wrote:Ooh that's super nice. Now I know I'm not getting this mold because I couldn't decide between the decos.
Oh the usual answer, not enough monies.
Posted by Sabrblade on January 12th, 2017 @ 9:57pm CST
With time and disciplined patience, one can aim to save up enough monies.SureShot18 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:SureShot18 wrote:Ooh that's super nice. Now I know I'm not getting this mold because I couldn't decide between the decos.
Oh the usual answer, not enough monies.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 13th, 2017 @ 1:29am CST
Va'al wrote:ScottyP wrote:There's no logic to the numbering. You can find something, sure, but I'm pretty sure it just comes down to the arbitrary whim of someone for no really good reason every time.
Just throwing this one back out there.
Ugh... fine. I was mainly looking at retools and new accessories, and taking "new characters" out of the equation. True, the cassettes were the exception by being straight redecos, no retooling whatsoever, but aside from that...
Let's move on, shall we?
Posted by Stumpybot on January 13th, 2017 @ 2:56am CST
In all seriousness though, Im kind of sad about this as I cant justify a second purchase and I wouldve chosen the toy deco over the CGI model every time as I was never into the cartoon but loved the toy.
Posted by fenrir72 on January 13th, 2017 @ 3:48am CST
Good one Takara
Posted by SureShot18 on January 13th, 2017 @ 6:04am CST
Sabrblade wrote:With time and disciplined patience, one can aim to save up enough monies.SureShot18 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:SureShot18 wrote:Ooh that's super nice. Now I know I'm not getting this mold because I couldn't decide between the decos.
Oh the usual answer, not enough monies.
True.
Posted by Emerje on January 14th, 2017 @ 10:34pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:It's been like the following (new tooling/accessories or not) ever since MP-10 and MP-11:
MP-12 Lambor - new mold, new character
MP-13 Soundwave w/ Condor - new molds, new characters
MP-14 Alert - old mold, new character
MP-15 Rumble & Jaguar - new molds, new characters
MP-16 Frenzy & Buzzsaw - old molds, new characters
MP-17 Prowl - new mold, new character
MP-18 Streak - old mold, new character
MP-19 Smokescreen - old mold new character
MP-20 Wheeljack - new mold, new character
MP-21 Bumble - new mold, new character
MP-22 Ultra Magnus - new mold, new character
MP-23 Exhaust - old mold, new character
MP-24 Star Saber - new mold, new character
MP-25 Tracks - new mold, new character
MP-26 Road Rage - old mold, new character
MP-27 Ironhide - new mold, new character
MP-28 Hot Rodimus - new mold, new character (for this refresh era, and technically MP-9 was Rodimus Convoy, but regardless, it's a new mold anyway)
MP-29 Destron Laserwave - new mold, new character
MP-30 Ratchet - old mold, new character
MP-31 Delta Magnus - old mold, new character
MP-32 Convoy (Beast Wars) - new mold, new character
MP-33 Inferno - new mold, new character
MP-34 Cheetus - new mold, new character
MP-35 Grapple - old mold, new character
MP-36 Megatron - new mold, new character (again, for this refresh era, and it is a new mold anyway)
MP-37 Artfire w/ Nightstick - one old mold and one new mold, both new characters
MP-38 Convoy (Beast Wars) Legendary Supreme Commander Ver. - old mold, old character
This is the first main line mass retail MP to be an "old mold, old character" case, whereas all previous cases like this, for the refresh era, have instead been exclusives w/ lettered ID numbers. By all reason, this toy ought to be a lettered exclusive instead of a unique-numbered mass retail MP.
Another outlier:
MP-13B Soundblaster - Not an exclusive, not exactly a new character, though packaged with a new mold Ratbat and not a unique number. They didn't have to make MP-38 a unique number, they just felt like it.
Emerje
Posted by Sabrblade on January 14th, 2017 @ 10:55pm CST
Twas still an "old mold, old character" case as many lettered ID numbered MPs have been.Emerje wrote:Another outlier:
Posted by Emerje on January 14th, 2017 @ 11:18pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:Twas still an "old mold, old character" case as many lettered ID numbered MPs have been.Emerje wrote:Another outlier:
Sure, but unlike MP-12G Lambor G-2 Ver. and MP-21G Bumble G-2 Ver., also sold at mass retail, which were just straight repaints with additional accessories (like MP-38), Soundblaster even included an entirely new second figure which is unique to both mass retail and exclusives in the line that have been lettered. He would be more deserving of a unique number than the new Primal is.
Emerje
Posted by Sabrblade on January 14th, 2017 @ 11:33pm CST
Hmm, I guess the lettered ones could then be considered as either exclusives or "old mold, old character" cases (or both), with MP-38 still breaking that pattern as well.Emerje wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Twas still an "old mold, old character" case as many lettered ID numbered MPs have been.Emerje wrote:Another outlier:
Sure, but unlike MP-12G Lambor G-2 Ver. and MP-21G Bumble G-2 Ver., also sold at mass retail, which were just straight repaints with additional accessories (like MP-38), Soundblaster even included an entirely new second figure which is unique to both mass retail and exclusives in the line that have been lettered. He would be more deserving of a unique number than the new Primal is.
Posted by william-james88 on January 14th, 2017 @ 11:56pm CST
Posted by Va'al on January 24th, 2017 @ 7:45am CST
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Posted by SW's SilverHammer on January 24th, 2017 @ 8:09am CST
Posted by Sigma Magnus on January 24th, 2017 @ 8:10am CST
Va'al wrote:Much like the previous iteration of this mold from Takara Tomy, the Transformers Masterpiece MP-38 Beast Convoy / Optimus Primal Supreme Commander version will have an added accessory through Hasbro Transformers Asia, once more in diecast, and replacing the mace now available as a regular accessory: this time, according to the their Facebook page, it's a bunch of bananas.
GLORIOUS
Posted by kurthy on January 24th, 2017 @ 8:24am CST
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 24th, 2017 @ 8:28am CST
kurthy wrote:This just makes me want an MP beast wars Megatron even more. Imagine the possibilities. Exclusive rubber ducky! A back scrubber instead of a flail...a bathtub
Rubber ducky, you're the one!
Although I didn't know Supreme Convoy loved bananas as much as the minions do
Posted by dragons on January 24th, 2017 @ 10:56am CST
Sigma Magnus wrote:Va'al wrote:Much like the previous iteration of this mold from Takara Tomy, the Transformers Masterpiece MP-38 Beast Convoy / Optimus Primal Supreme Commander version will have an added accessory through Hasbro Transformers Asia, once more in diecast, and replacing the mace now available as a regular accessory: this time, according to the their Facebook page, it's a bunch of bananas.
GLORIOUS
This wouldn't make me want to buy Figure for banana I buy Figure for mace but no bananas
Posted by Kurona on January 24th, 2017 @ 2:07pm CST
Posted by Va'al on January 24th, 2017 @ 5:12pm CST
Posted by Sabrblade on January 24th, 2017 @ 6:51pm CST
Posted by Va'al on January 24th, 2017 @ 7:05pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:Notice how these pics show how to store the accessories on the Weapon Rack that attaches to his back.
I noticed.
the only actual new image is number 4, showing off how to store the mutant mask and other accessories on his back, with the blue tab seen in images previously.
Posted by VioMeTriX on January 26th, 2017 @ 11:00pm CST
Posted by Sabrblade on January 26th, 2017 @ 11:04pm CST
Officially? There was no advertisement for the peg in any of MP-32's instructions or packaged feature pics.VioMeTriX wrote:that tab on his back was originally placed there for Generations Rattrap,
Posted by VioMeTriX on January 27th, 2017 @ 10:36am CST
Posted by william-james88 on January 27th, 2017 @ 10:51am CST
VioMeTriX wrote:i dont know if it was official or an abandoned gimmick, but rattrap does peg in
So does anything with a peg hole that size. Plus rattrap doesnt even work well sicne that peg is only on onf of his arms, making him off centre. It wasnt made for him, thats just a theory fans came up with because they were puzzled and grasping for straws.
But now we actually know what its for, its for this extra gear. It was that all along. What happened is that Takara had 2 releases in mind but wanted to use the same mold for cost purposes.
Its like Power Ranger megazord toys, many are released with ports that appear useless and then a year later you realize its to go with a new toy that just got released.
Posted by Sabrblade on January 27th, 2017 @ 5:58pm CST
Posted by Emerje on February 4th, 2017 @ 2:05am CST
william-james88 wrote:VioMeTriX wrote:i dont know if it was official or an abandoned gimmick, but rattrap does peg in
So does anything with a peg hole that size. Plus rattrap doesnt even work well sicne that peg is only on onf of his arms, making him off centre. It wasnt made for him, thats just a theory fans came up with because they were puzzled and grasping for straws.
But you want him to be offset otherwise he wouldn't be able to see over Primal's shoulders.
But now we actually know what its for, its for this extra gear. It was that all along. What happened is that Takara had 2 releases in mind but wanted to use the same mold for cost purposes.
I'm not entirely sold on that being the original purpose. The original figure could have used weapon storage as well so why not include it then if that was the original purpose? Why use a blatantly obvious 5mm peg and require an extra part rather than better integrating the weapon storage as a feature of the figure like we've seen on other MPs? For that matter he still has that port on his arm that hasn't been officially explained (though the speculation is probably accurate) and probably wont be at this point, but it goes to show that Takara Tomy built things into the figure that they weren't sure how to utilize.
Emerje
Posted by Sabrblade on February 4th, 2017 @ 7:01am CST
Looking over Primal's shoulder isn't what Rattrap did whenever he rode on Primal's robot mode back as a flying passenger. He instead always kept to the middle of Primal's back, looking over the backpack kibble located directly behind Primal's head, far above Primal's shoulders.Emerje wrote:william-james88 wrote:VioMeTriX wrote:i dont know if it was official or an abandoned gimmick, but rattrap does peg in
So does anything with a peg hole that size. Plus rattrap doesnt even work well sicne that peg is only on onf of his arms, making him off centre. It wasnt made for him, thats just a theory fans came up with because they were puzzled and grasping for straws.
But you want him to be offset otherwise he wouldn't be able to see over Primal's shoulders.