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IDW Transformers vs. G.I. Joe Quintessential Collection Delayed, to Include Movie Adaptation

Transformers News: IDW Transformers vs. G.I. Joe Quintessential Collection Delayed, to Include Movie Adaptation

Monday, March 20th, 2017 12:05AM CDT

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This month was supposed to see the release of the hardcover collection of the Tom Scioli series Transformers vs G.I. Joe, dubbed 'the quintessential collection' and covered by us here. After yesterday's news of the Movie Adaption release, however, we've also learned that the whole book will be delayed to include the one-shot issue too! We have yet to find out how long the delay will actually be, but stay tuned for more information as we receive it here at Seibertron.com, and whet your appetite on our database entry here.

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Re: IDW Transformers vs. G.I. Joe Quintessential Collection Delayed, to Include Movie Adaptation (1867799)
Posted by Supreme Convoy on March 20th, 2017 @ 1:50am CDT
Va'al wrote:This month was supposed to see the release of the hardcover collection of the Tom Scioli series Transformers vs G.I. Joe, dubbed 'the quintessential collection' and covered by us here. After yesterday's news of the Movie Adaption release, however, we've also learned that the whole book will be delayed to include the one-shot issue too! We have yet to find out how long the delay will actually be, but stay tuned for more information as we receive it here at Seibertron.com, and whet your appetite on our database entry here.

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I'm totally okay with this because having the Movie Adaptation in the Quintessential Collection makes total sense.

It would drive me crazy to have it separate.
Re: IDW Transformers vs. G.I. Joe Quintessential Collection Delayed, to Include Movie Adaptation (1867804)
Posted by dragons on March 20th, 2017 @ 6:24am CDT
I like look of snake eyes in picture everything else not to much glad it's going under way
Re: IDW Transformers vs. G.I. Joe Quintessential Collection Delayed, to Include Movie Adaptation (1867848)
Posted by Rodimus Knight on March 20th, 2017 @ 12:39pm CDT
Okay, so this is the first time I've even heard of a Transformers VS GI Movie. IS there actually one, or is this just a script of a movie that was never made?
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Posted by Cobotron on March 20th, 2017 @ 12:46pm CDT
It's really just a joke. It's just the title of the comic.
How that plays into the story in this one-off is yet to be determined.
Until Wednesday at least.
Re: IDW Transformers vs. G.I. Joe Quintessential Collection Delayed, to Include Movie Adaptation (1868879)
Posted by Supreme Convoy on March 23rd, 2017 @ 11:49pm CDT
Read The Movie Adaptation yesterday and LOVED it.

If you thought Transformers Vs. GI Joe was bananas, Tom Scioli dials it up to 11. Not a literal literal adaptation of the comic series, but it touches upon the highlights of the run and gives them a cool twist.

You can almost imagine music from the GI Joe and Transformers animated movies while reading it. And for anyone that grew up reading comic movie adaptations, this is a loving tribute to those as well. Those comics tend to also touch upon the highlights of a movie within a short amount of pages.

Also, I'm a big fan of this homage to The Right Stuff.

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Highly recommended for anyone that loved the Transformers Vs. GI Joe comic.
Re: IDW Transformers vs. G.I. Joe Quintessential Collection Delayed, to Include Movie Adaptation (1869926)
Posted by Cobotron on March 28th, 2017 @ 12:08am CDT
Critics are raving about Tom Scioli's hit new (non)motion picture(book) Transformers vs. G.I. Joe The Movie Adaptation.

"Best toy-to-movie movie since Masters of the Universe" - Roger Ebot

"The Silver Screen hasn't seen special effects this good since Clash of the Titans." - Gene Siskeltron

"Tom Scioli is, the second coming of Dino De Laurentiis." -Leonard Maltron


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Transformers VS. G.I. Joe The Movie Adaptation

Written, Drawn, Colored, and Lettered by:
Tom Scioli

Additional Production by:
Chris Mowry

Edited by:
Carlos Guzman

Publisher:
Ted Adams



Hopefully by now we all know that there is no actual movie, but what there is is a fantastic one-off romp through Scioli's mad-capped mash-up of some of our favorite Hasbroites. This book is certainly meant to be a one time adventure, and redelivers on all the weird and crazy story telling wrapped in the warped artistic package fans of the series have come to expect. It does not disappoint.

The story line is almost new, touching on and rehashing some of the more prevalent themes from the original series, but condensing them down into a more cohesive "screen play", if you will.

-Story

The story opens with the age old notion that Cybertronian's and Earthling's fates have been intertwined through out the annals of time.

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Stop! Hammer of time!


The tale is told more through the narrative of the Joes. Scioli covers a lot of ground quickly through "A Letter to Sis" as written by Snake eyes.

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Let 'em have it boys!


And primarily through that of Scarlet. Like other live action Transformers movies, it relies heavily on the "human element".

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What is love? Baby don't hurt me. Don't hurt me. No more.


The story delves deeply into the minds and emotions of our favorite sentient heroes. Unbreakable bonds of love. The comradery of war hardened allies. The essence of the evils that threaten the very fabric of our cosmos. The trials and tribulations of family.

But it leaves plenty of room for some hard hitting, Cobra stomping, Con slagging action!

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You've been HAWKED!



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There's only room for one snake on this plane.


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Optimus! You sank my Battle Ship! TM



The book reads fast and furious which adds to the fun. It does feel a tad rushed, and perhaps merely an avenue to get some of the better ideas left on the cutting room floor from the original series, back into the pages of a comic.

But it still manages to make for an action-packed smash hit blockbuster thrill-ride of the summer!


-Art

A point of contention for many who have tried Scioli's works. But it's important to note that he knows exactly what he's doing. A great teacher once told me, "You can't break the rules, unless you know what the rules are. Otherwise you are just making a mess".

While Scioli's art appears at first glance to be juvenile, and an amateur mess, he knows exactly what he's doing. He knows the rules well, and he is breaking them with grace and style. Each panel is laid out in a composition that keeps the eye moving all around the frame. He does so even in his line work. At times I found myself re-reading the text several times because my brain was to busy keeping up with my roving eye. His use of color also adds to the musical mayhem of each panel using almost annoyingly florescent hues to garner focus on the subject, again leading the eye back and forth around the composition. Even his placement of the word bubbles and the text within them adds to this element of composition. Concreting him as a true wizard in the art of comic books.

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Just TRY to sit still, eyeball!


Of course one of the best parts of Scioli's art are the sight gags!

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No silly quip necessary.


One thing I did feel was missing, and probably my favorite thing about the original series, were the two-page Where's Waldo-esque spreads that one could spend hours poring over always finding some new hidden surprise tucked into the the intricacies of the drawing.

-Low Down
Over all the book is a good fun read, packed with all the silliness and splendor we got from the series. It was just nice to have one more jaunt through Scioli's childhood world of imaginary fantasies. If you enjoyed the series, there's no reason why you shouldn't enjoy this film/not a film.

.:BOT: :BOT: :GIJOE: :BOT: out of :BOT: :BOT: :COBRA: :BOT: :BOT:


Oh! And don't forget, the DVD comes packed with bonus features. Including cast interviews and making of featurettes! ;)
Re: IDW Transformers vs. G.I. Joe Quintessential Collection Delayed, to Include Movie Adaptation (1870150)
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on March 29th, 2017 @ 3:44am CDT
Them autobots will have to be walking super slow not to step on the slow walking Joes.

I read it. Well.. I dunno if that's the right word. I...experienced it? I dunno why as I wasn't a big fan of the miniseries but the curiosity of 'movie' got me. It's different and it probably appeals to some folk.
Re: IDW Transformers vs. G.I. Joe Quintessential Collection Delayed, to Include Movie Adaptation (1870166)
Posted by Kurona on March 29th, 2017 @ 8:17am CDT
My feelings on this are essentially my feelings on the original series amped up to ten - it's obviously and clearly meant to be bizarre and tongue-in-cheek and anyone trying to read it as anything but will not have a good time. But I have a lot of trouble deciding if it's so bizarre and tongue-in-cheek that it's incredible, or so bizarre and tongue-in-cheek it just leaves me confused and raising my eyebrow. It really tightropes that line for me, and this sort of thing scarcely has a safety net.

While I don't really want to remind everyone of it, my feelings on the intent behind IDW's Revolution remain the same - that there's clearly a lot of heart and love that went into it and there certainly feels to be some sort of passion project in there, but it just ends up falling apart at the seams. And that might be how I feel about this. There's a lot of love in there, the creative team is obviously having a ball, I get what they're going for... but I just cannot decide if it delivers or not.

One definite positive I can say though is that I really like how they treated the whole movie adaption thing. The changes made and the things left intact and the things added in really do feel like something a movie adaption would do to a comic series like this, so I can definitely applaud the comic in that sense at least.
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Posted by cruizerdave on March 29th, 2017 @ 10:27am CDT
Wrong. I swear, people give this a pass and act like its brilliant because they're fan boys of Scioli and the other guy. Yes, I know, the art is intentionally bad, the story is intentionally stupid, the pacing is intentionally disjointed. However, just because someone intentionally does a bad job doesn't mean they've actually done a good job.
It's like the holdouts who still claim that Miller's DK2 was brilliant, and if you didn't like it, that's just because you don't get it ... No, it was just awful.
Same with this. Yes, I know it's all intentional, but it's gone so far that it's not a parody of GI Joe or Transformers, it's just making fun of the people who like this stuff.

Of course there are many TF fans who defend Michael Bay's films, so maybe they deserve it.
Re: IDW Transformers vs. G.I. Joe Quintessential Collection Delayed, to Include Movie Adaptation (1870236)
Posted by Va'al on March 29th, 2017 @ 11:13am CDT
cruizerdave wrote:Wrong. I swear, people give this a pass and act like its brilliant because they're fan boys of Scioli and the other guy. Yes, I know, the art is intentionally bad, the story is intentionally stupid, the pacing is intentionally disjointed. However, just because someone intentionally does a bad job doesn't mean they've actually done a good job.
It's like the holdouts who still claim that Miller's DK2 was brilliant, and if you didn't like it, that's just because you don't get it ... No, it was just awful.
Same with this. Yes, I know it's all intentional, but it's gone so far that it's not a parody of GI Joe or Transformers, it's just making fun of the people who like this stuff.

Of course there are many TF fans who defend Michael Bay's films, so maybe they deserve it.


*pat-pat*
Re: IDW Transformers vs. G.I. Joe Quintessential Collection Delayed, to Include Movie Adaptation (1870315)
Posted by galvatron00 on March 29th, 2017 @ 3:23pm CDT
Well written Cobotron!!

I never read the other TF vs G.I. Joe, the art just put me off.

This, as a standalone one time deal, was fun. Flippin' Transformers and Joes. Fun stuff.
Re: IDW Transformers vs. G.I. Joe Quintessential Collection Delayed, to Include Movie Adaptation (1870317)
Posted by no-one on March 29th, 2017 @ 3:29pm CDT
HAHA, brilliant review of a brilliant one off. I like the way you make the words from your thoughts show up in text that my eyes can adsorb into my head so I can brain with my fingers to the screen.

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That's pretty much how I feel when I read the GI Joe vs the Transformers. I enjoy the wacky art that is either so bad it's good or so good it's bad perfect. The panels seem self indulgently told in the way we used to make up stories on the playground; from the view point of an unjaded child. These comics are best enjoyed with a big cup of "suspension of disbelief", which is pretty much how I like to enjoy all my media. ;)^
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Posted by no-one on March 29th, 2017 @ 3:32pm CDT
itscramtastic wrote:Well written Cobotron!!

I never read the other TF vs G.I. Joe, the art just put me off.

This, as a standalone one time deal, was fun. Flippin' Transformers and Joes. Fun stuff.
Totally worth checking out. Wait for another 50% sale at comixology ;)^
Re: IDW Transformers vs. G.I. Joe Quintessential Collection Delayed, to Include Movie Adaptation (1872597)
Posted by Supreme Convoy on April 7th, 2017 @ 3:30pm CDT
Re-reading Transformers Vs. GI Joe: The Movie Adaptation. This is all I think when I get to that last page.



OR conversely...

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Posted by Va'al on April 8th, 2017 @ 2:38am CDT
Supreme Convoy wrote:Re-reading Transformers Vs. GI Joe: The Movie Adaptation. This is all I think when I get to that last page.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtCFrGlGmLU

OR conversely...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUTjLmxmPW0

Edit: Looks like I couldn't embed videos? I thought we could.


You can! You need that code after V= in between [youtube] tags. Like so:

Code: Select all
[youtube]BUTjLmxmPW0[/youtube]


Re: IDW Transformers vs. G.I. Joe Quintessential Collection Delayed, to Include Movie Adaptation (1872969)
Posted by Supreme Convoy on April 8th, 2017 @ 11:33pm CDT
Va'al wrote:
You can! You need that code after V= in between [youtube] tags. Like so:

Code: Select all
[youtube]BUTjLmxmPW0[/youtube]




Thanks for the tip! Fix the previous post.
Re: IDW Transformers vs. G.I. Joe Quintessential Collection Delayed, to Include Movie Adaptation (1928167)
Posted by Va'al on December 26th, 2017 @ 3:57am CST
Our second preview up this week, from an IDW Publishing Transformers comics release, is another collected edition for a book that has already seen several editions - the Tom Scioli (with John Barber) production of Transformers vs G.I. Joe: The Quintessential Collection!

Bringing together the entire run of the series, plus the one-shot titled The Movie Adaptation (no movie was ever made, before you ask), the book can be viewed below with its new production and specific art style and writing. Check it out, and let us know if you'll finally dip into the cosmic swirls of the clashing worlds Scioli.

Transformers vs. G.I. Joe: The Quintessential Collection
Tom Scioli, John Barber (w) • Tom Scioli (a & c)
Earth makes contact with an alien race—and G.I. JOE is on the front lines! But, when the Transformers arrive—well, let's just say you've never seen Transformers vs G.I. JOE like this! Presenting the entire 13-issue Transformers vs G.I. JOE series—full of Kirby crackle and the relentless fun of Scioli's vision—plus the all-new Transformers vs G.I. JOE: The Movie Adaptation one-shot in one unforgettable edition. Travel from Earth to Cybertron and back again as comic book luminary Tom Scioli turns his imagination loose on Hasbro's beloved toys! This oversized deluxe hardcover also includes commentary and extras by creators Tom Scioli and John Barber!
HC • FC • $49.99 • 420 pages • 7” x 11” • ISBN: 978-1-63140-860-1

Bullet points:
"Instead of trying to take '80s toy nostalgia and make it sexy and modern, Tom Scioli and John Barber have made a comic that feels like playing with action figures in your backyard..."—Vice


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Re: IDW Transformers vs. G.I. Joe Quintessential Collection Delayed, to Include Movie Adaptation (1928427)
Posted by no-one on December 27th, 2017 @ 3:45pm CST
Va'al wrote:Image

Well this is the most awesome image I've seen in a while - guess who just got a new wallpaper for their phone :-?

I do really enjoy this series. Lots of fun with clearly no fucks given... ever!

Shame I already have them all digitally, but I could talk myself into a hard copy. I do love the so bad it's good art style.
Re: IDW Transformers vs. G.I. Joe Quintessential Collection Delayed, to Include Movie Adaptation (1928553)
Posted by zodconvoy on December 28th, 2017 @ 12:14pm CST
Well, I know what I'm picking up on my way home.
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Posted by Va'al on February 2nd, 2018 @ 2:55am CST
It doesn't look like anything or anyone is going to stop the popularity of the utterly bonkers reimagined version of the Transformers vs G.I. Joe crossover that sprang forth from the minds of Tom Scioli and John Barber (and the creative skills of the former), as the complete collection - including the so-called 'movie adaptation' - has just received another, deluxe sized release!

Read on below for the full press release for this past week's Quintessential collection edition of the series, including a bunch of endorsements from various sources, and head here for our database entry on the series!

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Tom Scioli’s Acclaimed Transformers vs. G.I. Joe Series Gets Deluxe Package!


“Reading this book is the best possible reminder of how much fun it was to play with your toys as a kid.” – IGN

San Diego, CA (February 1, 2018) – The fan-favorite mashup of toy box essentials, Hasbro’s TRANSFORMERS and G.I. JOE were given a unique, critically acclaimed comic book series published by IDW that took readers by surprise. In a series unlike anything that had come before it, Tom Scioli’s unique storytelling brought the elaborate settings and battles of childhood imaginations to the comic page. Now, at last, the complete series is available in a deluxe hardcover collection; Transformers vs. G.I. Joe: The Quintessential Collection.

Heavily influenced by the “king of comics,” Jack Kirby, Scioli’s sense of design and aesthetic along with Transformers veteran co-writer John Barber won over critics and fans alike; with CBR calling it “Truly unlike anything else on stands right now, Barber and Scioli have made Transformers vs. G.I. Joe one of the most fascinating books on shelves today.”

Collecting all 13 issues of the maxi-series along with the debut #0 issue appearing on Free Comic Book Day 2015, plus the bonkers Transformers vs. G.I. Joe The Movie Adaptation, this hardcover collection has it all. Back matter includes page-by-page commentary by Scioli and Barber for each issue, along with a complete cover gallery!

“It's the hardest I've ever worked,” says Scioli. “There's blood on those pages. I gave everything I had to give. Go from T.H.E. P.I.T. to Cybertron and back again. Read the comic that inspired the movie! I'm already nostalgic for it and you will be, too!”

Transformers vs. G.I. Joe: The Quintessential Collection is available now using ISBN: 978-1631408601.

“Tom Scioli is a master in visual storytelling and it’s never been more apparent here.” – Multiversity Comics

“It’s one of those comics that overwhelms with the sheer creative energy on the page” – The A.V. Club

“Whether you're a Transformers fan, a G.I. Joe fan, or just a fan of retro goodness, this is one for you.” –Comic Book Therapy

“If you asked me to pick my favorite comics of the year, there's not even a question about it: Transformers vs. G.I. Joe would be at the top of the list.” – Comics Alliance



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Re: IDW Transformers vs. G.I. Joe Quintessential Collection Delayed, to Include Movie Adaptation (1935414)
Posted by primalxconvoy on February 2nd, 2018 @ 3:39am CST
I tried to polish this tu®d as best as I could...

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...but it STILL looks to me like some 12 year old drew it in their notebook...

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Posted by Omegatron. on February 2nd, 2018 @ 5:07am CST
primalxconvoy wrote:I tried to polish this tu®d as best as I could...

...but it STILL looks to me like some 12 year old drew it in their notebook...


You must know some extremely artistic 12 year olds.
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Posted by primalxconvoy on February 2nd, 2018 @ 5:11am CST
Omegatron. wrote:
primalxconvoy wrote:I tried to polish this tu®d as best as I could...

...but it STILL looks to me like some 12 year old drew it in their notebook...


You must know some extremely artistic 12 year olds.


I had this mate, who was really talented. He could paint or sculpt anything at 12 years old. However, our school wouldn't let him study art or pottery at 6th form as he didn't have enough grades in other subjects. He was probably the best artist our school ever had.
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Posted by dragons on February 2nd, 2018 @ 6:07am CST
primalxconvoy wrote:
Omegatron. wrote:
primalxconvoy wrote:I tried to polish this tu®d as best as I could...

...but it STILL looks to me like some 12 year old drew it in their notebook...


You must know some extremely artistic 12 year olds.


I had this mate, who was really talented. He could paint or sculpt anything at 12 years old. However, our school wouldn't let him study art or pottery at 6th form as he didn't have enough grades in other subjects. He was probably the best artist our school ever had.


I know comic art is not for everyone but that was little low frank miller art for human faces have little smoothe edges when frank miller draws heads and faces they pointy edges on them pointy cheeks, eye sockets not round rounded off that you see in this comic here I don’t like series mostly art feel bad for artists who worked on it transformers cartoon series is not always perfect either from any series generation one and above transformers cartoon series had child like comedy bumble pulling pranks on everyone acting like hyper active little kid over dose on sugar and sorry was irritating at times
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Posted by ScottyP on February 2nd, 2018 @ 8:45am CST
It's supposed to look that way. Any comic where Ravage says "I offered you peace and you ran me over with your car", which later features things like Megatron being transported to the My Little Pony universe and battles between transforming planets, and then ends with a chapter adapting a movie that doesn't exist isn't meant to be taken seriously. It's fun, and it took me awhile to grasp that but if you're capable of just relaxing and taking in some creative absurdity, this is a fantastic tome that you should pick up ;)^
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Posted by Cobotron on February 2nd, 2018 @ 8:52am CST
ScottyP wrote:It's supposed to look that way. Any comic where Ravage says "I offered you peace and you ran me over with your car", which later features things like Megatron being transported to the My Little Pony universe and battles between transforming planets, and then ends with a chapter adapting a movie that doesn't exist isn't meant to be taken seriously. It's fun, and it took me awhile to grasp that but if you're capable of just relaxing and taking in some creative absurdity, this is a fantastic tome that you should pick up ;)^
Can we get this, Scotty's quote, printed on the back of this edition please?! ;)^
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Posted by ScottyP on February 2nd, 2018 @ 9:22am CST
Cobotron wrote:
ScottyP wrote:It's supposed to look that way. Any comic where Ravage says "I offered you peace and you ran me over with your car", which later features things like Megatron being transported to the My Little Pony universe and battles between transforming planets, and then ends with a chapter adapting a movie that doesn't exist isn't meant to be taken seriously. It's fun, and it took me awhile to grasp that but if you're capable of just relaxing and taking in some creative absurdity, this is a fantastic tome that you should pick up ;)^
Can we get this, Scotty's quote, printed on the back of this edition please?! ;)^
One day I'll get a review blurb printed on a comic, and it probably will be for something like this. Great insight into Lost Light's analysis of the human condition? Nah. Praise for Optimus Prime's deconstruction of the idealized Autobot command structure? Nope. I'll get something for providing a take on how to properly enjoy Fort Max literally consuming people for food :lol:
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Posted by Cobotron on February 2nd, 2018 @ 1:44pm CST
ScottyP wrote:
Cobotron wrote:
ScottyP wrote:It's supposed to look that way. Any comic where Ravage says "I offered you peace and you ran me over with your car", which later features things like Megatron being transported to the My Little Pony universe and battles between transforming planets, and then ends with a chapter adapting a movie that doesn't exist isn't meant to be taken seriously. It's fun, and it took me awhile to grasp that but if you're capable of just relaxing and taking in some creative absurdity, this is a fantastic tome that you should pick up ;)^
Can we get this, Scotty's quote, printed on the back of this edition please?! ;)^
One day I'll get a review blurb printed on a comic, and it probably will be for something like this. Great insight into Lost Light's analysis of the human condition? Nah. Praise for Optimus Prime's deconstruction of the idealized Autobot command structure? Nope. I'll get something for providing a take on how to properly enjoy Fort Max literally consuming people for food :lol:
:lol: :lol:
Maybe you could work in a psych analysis on why JOE keep callig the Transformers GoBots too. 8-}
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Posted by primalxconvoy on February 2nd, 2018 @ 3:04pm CST
The thing is, the promotion for these comics didn't really sell it as a comedy. If the story was just that little bit more funny, and the drawings just a tad more childish (or something else to drive the point home), I suspect more people would have liked it. For example, I understood "Axe Cop", and seems to be what these comics were going for:

- https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YHGfSBr2FrY

- https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axe_Cop

If it had more of the same feeling of a comedy as Robo Capers, Lil' Formers, heck, even the Legends comic, I would have been on board. The nearest I can see for the tone, is this NSFW/PEGI 18 (cartoon violence, swearing, etc) advert for "Blood Dragon":

- https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0dofacvjRkc

If that's something like what these comics were going for, then I think the marketing should have been better and/or more could have been done to make the point clear that it was a pastiche. For example,fake, 80's style toy adverts, cut out and keep "presents" included, mini posters, writers' letters (Like the infamous, REALLY NSFW "Viz" comics from the UK), etc. They could also have included more retro effects, like slightly torn paper, coffee-cup rings, etc. If they printed it on that awful quality paper, that might have been great, too.

I would have been all over this comic if they had done that, but I only got the impression it was a serious, normal comic series, with a weak story, done in a retro way (badly) for no discernable reason.

Are those fair points? I've only ever encountered these comics via the TF websites (basically marketing), and I feel that the tone it aim of the comics never really got through to me at those points. If the comics themselves didn't really manage that either, then I will rest my case, but that's for those who've read them to discuss or decide.
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Posted by Va'al on February 2nd, 2018 @ 3:19pm CST
The series did pretty much all of that, and people liked it.


I see you're still super fun.
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Posted by primalxconvoy on February 2nd, 2018 @ 3:58pm CST
Va'al wrote:The series did pretty much all of that, and people liked it.


I see you're still super fun.


Hi Va'al! Welcome back!

Where have you been?

I'm sure people liked it. However, isn't it fair to say many, if not most TF fans at the boards were either against, or indifferent to it? If so, I suspect more people, be including myself, would have been more on board if they knew the series was a parody, rather than a serious comic.

I loved Comic Capers, Lil Formers, Blood Dragon, Axe Cop and Viz. Have you ever encountered those? I'd go on more about them, but it might end up NSFW and/or off-topic.

Actually, just thinking about the extras that could have been in the ON topic comics; collectors cards. Imagine "cut out and keep" cards, similar to Garbage Pail Kids (which also had an ironic, retro feel to them, even through they were made around the same time as CPK). Cards like:

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I'm not referring to the actual style of art, but rather the comedy and retro-look the cards employed. The backs of the cards featured fake adverts for "joke" products and services, too. Might have been great to include in the comics?
Re: IDW Transformers vs. G.I. Joe Quintessential Collection Delayed, to Include Movie Adaptation (1935571)
Posted by Va'al on February 2nd, 2018 @ 4:23pm CST
Most TF fans on message boards are happy to be unhappy about most things that are discussed on message boards. So I wouldn't call it the fairest, or most representative sample of any readership.

We never said it wasn't a parody or spoof or just fun. All of our coverage (previews, reviews included) pointed that out. We were clearly not explicit enough.
Re: IDW Transformers vs. G.I. Joe Quintessential Collection Delayed, to Include Movie Adaptation (1935572)
Posted by primalxconvoy on February 2nd, 2018 @ 4:27pm CST
Va'al wrote:Most TF fans on message boards are happy to be unhappy about most things that are discussed on message boards. So I wouldn't call it the fairest, or most representative sample of any readership.

We never said it wasn't a parody or spoof or just fun. All of our coverage (previews, reviews included) pointed that out. We were clearly not explicit enough.


I'm not having a pop at the site. All the TF sites simply showed the same comic previews. I'm talking about the stuff IDW sent to the sites. I wonder if they should have played up and made the theme/tone more clear?
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Posted by Va'al on February 2nd, 2018 @ 4:43pm CST
Re: IDW Transformers vs. G.I. Joe Quintessential Collection Delayed, to Include Movie Adaptation (1935597)
Posted by primalxconvoy on February 2nd, 2018 @ 7:03pm CST
Cheers, Va'al. Reading through the great links you gave, it doesn't seem to be parody, but rather it takes itself too seriously. The writer kept on saying that it was basically a comic in the style of role-playing as a kid playing with both TFs and GI-Joe figures. However, if you read "Axe Cop"(which is based on actual stories made by the writer's 5 year old brother/son), you might see what I was expecting.

I just can't see the appeal. If it's a serious story, then it's too strange, and the artwork looks cheap, and if it's a parody, it seems to be too serious or lack any irony in what I've seen.

Was this series popular, though? MASK, for example, wasn't, but what about this?
Re: IDW Transformers vs. G.I. Joe Quintessential Collection Delayed, to Include Movie Adaptation (1935600)
Posted by Cobotron on February 2nd, 2018 @ 7:13pm CST
primalxconvoy wrote:Was this series popular, though? MASK, for example, wasn't, but what about this?
No. Probably not. Judging by the majority of reactions here, I'd say no. But, I would also refer to Va'al's statement above about the internet, forums, and people on them.

I loved it, and know quite a lot of other people who did, that you wouldn't necessarily find here.
It is certainly an acquired taste.

But it has been released several times in different forms. So that must count for something.
Re: IDW Transformers vs. G.I. Joe Quintessential Collection Delayed, to Include Movie Adaptation (1935609)
Posted by primalxconvoy on February 2nd, 2018 @ 7:59pm CST
Cobotron wrote:
primalxconvoy wrote:Was this series popular, though? MASK, for example, wasn't, but what about this?
No. Probably not. Judging by the majority of reactions here, I'd say no. But, I would also refer to Va'al's statement above about the internet, forums, and people on them.

I loved it, and know quite a lot of other people who did, that you wouldn't necessarily find here.
It is certainly an acquired taste.

But it has been released several times in different forms. So that must count for something.



Cheers. I hope though, that more "out of the box" series can continue though. The positive aspects of this comic, even for people who didn't like it, was that it was a separate continuity. That's definitely something to be appreciated.
Re: IDW Transformers vs. G.I. Joe Quintessential Collection Delayed, to Include Movie Adaptation (1935664)
Posted by triKlops on February 3rd, 2018 @ 9:52am CST
primalxconvoy wrote:
Cobotron wrote:
primalxconvoy wrote:Was this series popular, though? MASK, for example, wasn't, but what about this?
No. Probably not. Judging by the majority of reactions here, I'd say no. But, I would also refer to Va'al's statement above about the internet, forums, and people on them.

I loved it, and know quite a lot of other people who did, that you wouldn't necessarily find here.
It is certainly an acquired taste.

But it has been released several times in different forms. So that must count for something.



Cheers. I hope though, that more "out of the box" series can continue though. The positive aspects of this comic, even for people who didn't like it, was that it was a separate continuity. That's definitely something to be appreciated.


While I wasn't a fan of the series, I did read them all and bought the TPBs.
An interesting take on the Joe/TF -verse but not something i would be looking forward to revisiting any time soon.

Kirby's work was great for his era and i appreciate the homage.
I just have no need to revisit this interpretation any time soon.
Respect for what Scioli was trying to accomplish though so, YMMV.
Re: IDW Transformers vs. G.I. Joe Quintessential Collection Delayed, to Include Movie Adaptation (1935672)
Posted by primalxconvoy on February 3rd, 2018 @ 10:46am CST
I couldn't sleep, and couldn't resist. Behold, my crude attempts at humour and Photoshop...COMBINED!

PicsArt_1517676198499.jpg


I'm so sorry. So very, very sorry...
Re: IDW Transformers vs. G.I. Joe Quintessential Collection Delayed, to Include Movie Adaptation (1935699)
Posted by Daniel Adkins on February 3rd, 2018 @ 2:02pm CST
primalxconvoy wrote:Cheers, Va'al. Reading through the great links you gave, it doesn't seem to be parody, but rather it takes itself too seriously. The writer kept on saying that it was basically a comic in the style of role-playing as a kid playing with both TFs and GI-Joe figures.

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Re: IDW Transformers vs. G.I. Joe Quintessential Collection Delayed, to Include Movie Adaptation (1935853)
Posted by ZeroWolf on February 4th, 2018 @ 12:19pm CST
primalxconvoy wrote:I couldn't sleep, and couldn't resist. Behold, my crude attempts at humour and Photoshop...COMBINED!

PicsArt_1517676198499.jpg


I'm so sorry. So very, very sorry...

I loved the infinity welcomes careful drivers bit, some one is a dwarfer ;-)

Anyhoo, although the art style takes a bit getting used to, I think I'll pick up the collected edition of this, I'm quite open to new takes on the franchise

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