IDW Transformers: Unicron #1 Review
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A Seibertron.com somewhat Spoilerish Review of IDW Transformers: Unicorn Issue #1
The Darkest Hour has come. Optimus Prime stages a desperate gamble as the world-eater, Unicron, approaches Windblade’s homeworld—but that’s just the appetizer. The main course is Cybertron (with a side of Earth)... and it’s starting to look like no force in the galaxy can stop the end from coming.
Story
So here we are at last, the end of a dream, the end of 14 years of Transformers, the end of the longest running Transformers comic series in history. And here it goes out not with a bang nor a whimper. It goes out spectacularly and in glorious Big Screen Milne-D TV (that's a 2D 3D joke folks).
But we'll get to art later. First, let's focus in on the story shall we?
The story is sort of odd, but also pretty spectacular all in one. I will start with the odd: With the final Chapter of The Falling, over in IDW's Optimus Prime book, has not yet finished, meaning this book spoils some things but also sort of feels at odds, like you jumped into the action a bit too soon, like the first part of a 3 part finale from a TV show came before the 3rd to last episode. It may be a bit jarring, but that is hardly the book's fault.
Something that is also a bit strange is how this issue just feels like a slightly larger, more violent version of Unicron #0. Which I mean, that isn't necessarily a bad thing, considering the amount of action and Beast Wars cameos we get (though add a sin for only cameos at this point). But it also is a bit weird playing the script again. But at least (redacted as it is a spoiler, see the final thoughts)*.
That all being said, we still get a great and fun story. Something you might not have seen coming, and shown pretty much front and center on the front of the page, is the comparison between Optimus Prime and Unicron. In many ways, these 2 characters are quite similar. And in this issue, we get plenty of Optimus, though we are still in the early days of Unicron, but that's OK! We are building up, as Unicron is building himself up, and I have to say, the 2nd half of the book had some pretty awesome things about Unicron.
All the character moments we get as well are incredible. Dirge, the Mistress, Soundwave and ROM, even Pyra Magna at the end. The characters are driving the story as much as the pictures and action on the page, and to that end, Barber once again delivers the goods.
See final thoughts for 1 more story thing that is best left unsaid at this juncture.
Overall though, good story, slightly repetitive, but still freshened some, and ready to speed onward to the final 5 issues. And we even get a Furmanism!
Art
What would a comic be without art you might ask? It would be a book that's what. And while books are cool, comics drawn by Alex Milne and colored by Sebastian Cheng are even better. These 2 guys right here? They kill the book. They kill the book almost as well as Unicron killed the colonies and Wheeljack! (too soon?...)
The art, as to be expected on a Milne book, is fantastic. Bold lines, insane attention to detail, not a wide shot or a background missed. And the work on Unicron is the 2nd half of the book is awesome, properly great, kinda like the Transformers version of Bosch's Visions of Hell (maybe a spoiler, depends if you've seen that). The whole book is filled with great detail, great character moments, both story and art wise, and some great backdrops, even if we are literally in space for half the issue.
The coloring really helps bring out all those details too. I envy not a person who has to color Milne art, but Cheng did an amazing job, stellar. All the detail Milne provided was intricately carved out in detail and wonderful colors. He made the fires burn bright and the darkness nearly consume the reader themselves.
And the art would not be complete without our resident Letterer, Tom B. Long. Long still kills the varied speech patterns, and I love the colors and fonts chosen for Unicron. He also is one of the best at making sure you miss as little art as possible while catching your necessary speech bubbles.
For even more information, you can check out our Unicron database entry for this issue
Final Thoughts
Majorly spoilerish ahead
Ok, so as promised from the story section, the final 2 notes before we plunge on:
1) We are pretty much out of filler. Cybertron is next, and the action is going to only heat up from here. Both we and Unicron had the appetizers, it's time for the giant main course guys.
2) Starscream. oh man Starscream. It feels good to have him around for this final push of the storyline. And once again, it's just the way Milne draws him, but the Steve Blum just oozes all over the speech bubbles. This is the Starscream we've always needed in a comic, Transformers: Prime personified in a "G1" comic. It is brilliant.
With that, I wrap things up with this: This is the end, the great finale, the Unicron event that will end a universe, as Unicron's actually pretty rarely do. And the threat is large, it has power, it isn't showing weakness, it isn't showing any cliches, and it knows that only a few, if any, can truly have that happy ending. Heroes will fall, the action will heat up even more, the pace will pick up even more. The final enigma of the universe will be solved.
It is a great read, a part 2 if you will to the Free Unicron #0, one that provides a bit new, repeats some stuff, but still kills you with what it is intended to do. Great job here, let's keep shooting to the stars (so long as Unicron doesn't eat them).
PS: in case you're interested, I felt this song was perfect for this issue. (Obviously)
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Posted by The Lonely Cracker on July 11th, 2018 @ 9:03pm CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on July 11th, 2018 @ 9:09pm CDT
D R E W wrote:glad to know i'm not the only person that likes that song
I'm really glad someone can appreciate the music/lyrics/references I tag into my reviews. It is a great some, and perfect for the issue itself. there is gonna be a high body count...
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 12th, 2018 @ 2:10am CDT
Posted by Va'al on July 12th, 2018 @ 5:51am CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:Not in a place where I can click on the link so what is that song? Good to know things are starting well in unicron. Good review dmax!
Skillet - Not Gonna Die!
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 12th, 2018 @ 7:03am CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on July 12th, 2018 @ 6:20pm CDT
Va'al wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:Not in a place where I can click on the link so what is that song? Good to know things are starting well in unicron. Good review dmax!
Skillet - Not Gonna Die!
I kinda want to lay claim to the other 5 Unicron issues as well simply because I have a line of Skillet songs lined up for reviews, and I think most if not all line up greatly with Unicron!
As for other thoughts of mine on the issue other than those in the review, I know we haven't seen Dirge in a bit, but I was still sad to see him bite the dust.
Also, the scenes inside Unicron were fantastic. I love how he uses the inhabitants of the planets he's eaten as his immune system, all fused together and such. Maybe we'll see a part Wheeljack Antibody.
Also looking forward to learning more about Unicron.
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on July 15th, 2018 @ 5:24am CDT
Alas, Unicron's Galactus-lite dialogue continues...
To be honest, as I've mentioned before since there is no herald this time, I think it would be much better to learn nothing more about Unicron. Without him suddenly breaking into out of character monologue, he should just do his thing and remain an enigma in at least one continuity.
Note: I will stick around for one more issue, as they didn't have Prime pull some God-Bot BS to turn the tide. Long may that continue. 2.5/5
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 15th, 2018 @ 6:18am CDT
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on July 15th, 2018 @ 6:28am CDT
Posted by Va'al on July 15th, 2018 @ 6:48am CDT
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on July 15th, 2018 @ 7:30am CDT
Va'al wrote:Isn't it fun to have fun people contributing to a fun conversation.
Always. Likewise isn't it fun to occasionally remember that the Transformers is the story of an entire race, not just a Trukk
Posted by Va'al on July 15th, 2018 @ 7:39am CDT
So, Unicron - in light of the recent happenings in Optimus Prime, and with another issue out this week exploring Shockwave's endgame in all this, a question:
- if Primes aren't actually real (they are, but not as everyone has seen them until now), but a creation of Shockwave's to support a narrative, but Unicron is, how do we reconcile the various mythologies at the core of the belief system in the IDW TF universe? How does the Guiding Hand fit into all of it?
and an addition:
- the Maximals, part of Liege Maximo's army, are not from Eukarys (which is now gone), but are still beastformers - how does that work?
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on July 15th, 2018 @ 7:43am CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 15th, 2018 @ 8:14am CDT
Posted by Va'al on July 15th, 2018 @ 8:21am CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:I don't know about that...even taking away primus/unicron, unicron is tied to Cybertron still because otherwise, why the message? Theres still room to maneuver with these things, after all we still need to find out where Prime found out all that stuff from the first page.
I don't think it's ever really put down as myth though, is it? Just saying that Unicron vs Primus was a thing from the past, and - I speculate - probably mythologised upon a little.
As for the latter - we'll probably see more in OP ongoing, the scheduling for this is all outta whack.
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 15th, 2018 @ 10:18am CDT
Posted by Daniel Adkins on July 15th, 2018 @ 6:11pm CDT
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:See, I don't have the context of the other books, nor do I know who some of these characters are. To me this was Average. The visual-only Beast Wars cameos are completely wasted. The Dirge scene was pointless, I thought he died around AHM?. As a principal BW fan, seeing Not-Rampage did nothing for me, as with the other wordless cameos. What did annoy me is much like the squandered potential of The Gathering/Ascending we have BW2 & Neo characters practically vomited over the page.
Alas, Unicron's Galactus-lite dialogue continues...
To be honest, as I've mentioned before since there is no herald this time, I think it would be much better to learn nothing more about Unicron. Without him suddenly breaking into out of character monologue, he should just do his thing and remain an enigma in at least one continuity.
Note: I will stick around for one more issue, as they didn't have Prime pull some God-Bot BS to turn the tide. Long may that continue. 2.5/5
Well of course you aren’t going to care about the events of the finale if you didn’t actually read the stuff that came before. You don’t care about the deaths Mad-Eye Moody, Tonks and Lupin, Dobby, or Hedwig if you start reading Harry Potter at the Deathly Hallows.
Posted by ScottyP on July 16th, 2018 @ 8:38am CDT
I used to have faith these questions would be answered, but now I'm not so sure. It's plausible the answer ends up entirely being "just because" as it relates to the Maximals.Va'al wrote:Vaguely spoilery for people who haven't been following the comics in their chronological order up to now!
So, Unicron - in light of the recent happenings in Optimus Prime, and with another issue out this week exploring Shockwave's endgame in all this, a question:
- if Primes aren't actually real (they are, but not as everyone has seen them until now), but a creation of Shockwave's to support a narrative, but Unicron is, how do we reconcile the various mythologies at the core of the belief system in the IDW TF universe? How does the Guiding Hand fit into all of it?
and an addition:
- the Maximals, part of Liege Maximo's army, are not from Eukarys (which is now gone), but are still beastformers - how does that work?
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 16th, 2018 @ 10:35am CDT
Posted by Va'al on July 16th, 2018 @ 12:16pm CDT
Posted by ScottyP on July 16th, 2018 @ 12:39pm CDT
I really do want to know how and why Galvatron cared enough about Onyx's "return" to reference it just before dying. I don't expect to find out.Va'al wrote:Which I'm quite happy to be fine with - I don't need all the answers, I'm okay with that - just an extra question buzzing around my head.
But true, I don't really care about, say, what happened to the Predacons after Revolutionaries. "Destro sent them to live on a farm" is my accepted canon.
Posted by Va'al on July 16th, 2018 @ 12:44pm CDT
ScottyP wrote:I really do want to know how and why Galvatron cared enough about Onyx's "return" to reference it just before dying. I don't expect to find out.Va'al wrote:Which I'm quite happy to be fine with - I don't need all the answers, I'm okay with that - just an extra question buzzing around my head.
To get a bizarre supervillain character trait back as reference in this week's comic..?
But true, I don't really care about, say, what happened to the Predacons after Revolutionaries. "Destro sent them to live on a farm" is my accepted canon.
Nsh, it's a plot of land next to a steelworks plant. Y'know, for the flames.
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 16th, 2018 @ 2:12pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on July 17th, 2018 @ 12:11pm CDT
Where/when was this revealed?
Also, I wasnt too fond of this issue. I feel like not much happened, even though Caminus blew up. Also kinda pissed that the beast wars characters are all just cannon fodder.
Posted by ScottyP on July 17th, 2018 @ 12:43pm CDT
The Shockwave stuff was in Optimus Prime's "The Falling" arc, which wraps up tomorrow. Yay scheduling?william-james88 wrote:Dammit, I only read Lost Light (and TAAO) and now in this Unicron issue I learn that Shockwave founded the original 13 primes, W T F??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Where/when was this revealed?
Also, I wasnt too fond of this issue. I feel like not much happened, even though Caminus blew up. Also kinda pissed that the beast wars characters are all just cannon fodder.
I'd be more upset with the Beast Wars crew if the continuity weren't ending. At least now they're getting to make an appearance at all!
Posted by william-james88 on July 17th, 2018 @ 12:56pm CDT
ScottyP wrote:The Shockwave stuff was in Optimus Prime's "The Falling" arc, which wraps up tomorrow. Yay scheduling?william-james88 wrote:Dammit, I only read Lost Light (and TAAO) and now in this Unicron issue I learn that Shockwave founded the original 13 primes, W T F??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Where/when was this revealed?
Also, I wasnt too fond of this issue. I feel like not much happened, even though Caminus blew up. Also kinda pissed that the beast wars characters are all just cannon fodder.
I'd be more upset with the Beast Wars crew if the continuity weren't ending. At least now they're getting to make an appearance at all!
Ok, will read up on that then.
And did you notice that the evergreen designs are popping up in the comics. I know you hypothesised that these designs were to unify the look in the reboot to the comics but we are seeing them now in both Shockwave and Bumblebee. That Shockwave looks just like the cyberverse toy we are getting.
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on July 18th, 2018 @ 12:49pm CDT
Daniel Adkins wrote:Well of course you aren’t going to care about the events of the finale if you didn’t actually read the stuff that came before. You don’t care about the deaths Mad-Eye Moody, Tonks and Lupin, Dobby, or Hedwig if you start reading Harry Potter at the Deathly Hallows.
In Spotlight: Galvatron, did you care when Leadfoot died?
This is Unicron's story, hence his name in the title. That's all you need to know.
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 18th, 2018 @ 12:52pm CDT
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on July 18th, 2018 @ 12:56pm CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 18th, 2018 @ 1:22pm CDT
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on July 18th, 2018 @ 1:43pm CDT
I like larger than life concepts. Which is why I prefer the Cybertronian cars and spaceships of G1 Post-Movie over the Earth-Based altmodes, from before it. Those I always found generic and boring. You don't get more 'larger than life' than a Transforming Planet.
Posted by Daniel Adkins on July 19th, 2018 @ 1:30pm CDT
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Daniel Adkins wrote:Well of course you aren’t going to care about the events of the finale if you didn’t actually read the stuff that came before. You don’t care about the deaths Mad-Eye Moody, Tonks and Lupin, Dobby, or Hedwig if you start reading Harry Potter at the Deathly Hallows.
In Spotlight: Galvatron, did you care when Leadfoot died?
This is Unicron's story, hence his name in the title. That's all you need to know.
See, that's your problem right there. This isn't a story about Unicron. It's a story about how Optimus Prime, Bumblebee, Windblade, Starscream and everyone else RESPONDS to Unicron, much in the same way the original Godzilla isn't about the titular monster as a character, but about the reactions of the people. Again, this is the finale of years worth of stories.
Also, your Leadfoot point is shifting goalposts and a really weak argument.
Posted by Va'al on July 19th, 2018 @ 2:43pm CDT
Bumblebee investigates a dark corner of Cybertron’s past, searching for answers: what is Unicron, and why does it want to destroy Cybertron? Meanwhile, Windblade scrambles to figure out a plan as Chromia makes her return—with a Decepticon fleet in pursuit!
Posted by steve2275 on July 19th, 2018 @ 2:53pm CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 19th, 2018 @ 3:08pm CDT
Posted by Sunstar on July 19th, 2018 @ 3:35pm CDT
Posted by Randomhero on July 19th, 2018 @ 4:52pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:Well it was nice to see bludgeon again before all the cons get wiped...though I always thought bludgeon would be one to end up throwing in his lot with unicron, cest la vie
I believe he was referring to shockwave as his master in OP. Makes sense he’s back under the Decepticons. Starscream fixed him and now he serves him.
Posted by Va'al on July 24th, 2018 @ 8:47am CDT
Check out the preview and join the conversation in the Energon Pub discussion boards, and make sure to join us for the review discussion after the comic book is out this Wednesday!
Transformers: Unicron #2 (of 6)—Cover A: Alex Milne—GEM OF THE MONTH
John Barber (w) • Alex Milne (a & c)
Bumblebee investigates a dark corner of Cybertron’s past, searching for answers: what is Unicron, and why does it want to destroy Cybertron? Meanwhile, Windblade scrambles to figure out a plan as Chromia makes her return—with a Decepticon fleet in pursuit!
FC • 32 pages • $4.99
Transformers: Unicron #2 (of 6)—Cover B: James Raiz—GEM OF THE MONTH
John Barber (w) • Alex Milne (a) • James Raiz (c)
FC • 32 pages • $4.99
Bullet points:
Connecting B covers by James Raiz featuring destruction at the hands of Unicron!
The end of IDW Transformers as you know it! Not a hoax, not an imaginary story, just the end of the universe!
Covers by fan-favorite Transformers artists of the past decade!
Every oversized issue packed with bonus content!
Variant covers by Casey Coller, and Francesco Francavilla!
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 24th, 2018 @ 9:01am CDT
Posted by Randomhero on July 24th, 2018 @ 11:25am CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:Now that's interesting, will unicron be something that ancient cybertonians created (or more likely) be something that thy came across and woke up when they should have left be. Plus with the title 'strange eons' I'm getting small lovecraftian vibes...which I'm a-okay with!
I love speculating about the comics but without unicron I just can’t. I don’t think he’s robot Satan and I don’t think Primus existed or was a god and I can’t even fathom what he is. I’m really going into this series with no speculations for once. I feel like Shockwave In Marvel when he see unicron and his brain breaks.
“Can’t...figure...out...logic...logic...not...makes...sense...”
Posted by Silverwing on July 24th, 2018 @ 1:11pm CDT
Posted by Randomhero on July 24th, 2018 @ 4:51pm CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on July 24th, 2018 @ 6:15pm CDT
BTW, The marriage of artist and colorist for the series is absolutely killer.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on July 25th, 2018 @ 7:51pm CDT
A Seibertron.com somewhat Spoilerish Review of IDW Transformers: Unicorn Issue #1
Synopsis
Bumblebee investigates a dark corner of Cybertron’s past, searching for answers: what is Unicron, and why does it want to destroy Cybertron? Meanwhile, Windblade scrambles to figure out a plan as Chromia makes her return—with a Decepticon fleet in pursuit!
Story
And here we are again, on issue 2 of 6 of the grand IDW finale. Unicron is here. Unicron has killed planets and fan favorites. Unicron is unstoppable and unquestionably powerful.
Does part 2 of the tale live up to the hype? Just wait and see!
So to catch up, Issue 0 was the first attack by Unicron, and in a way Issue 1 was a longer version of 0 with some more material and more action and attack and Maximals. So issue 2 was the fallout, the scene of defeat, the realization that Unicron had no weakness and burns full bore for Cybertron now. And the way the different characters were placed in that context was quite enjoyable to read.
We get some good ole fashioned Starscream, to an extent. We get some optimistic Bumblebee, paired with the used to be equally as optimistic but still very eager to at least do something Aileron, and then Optimus, more Starscream, and the council. Old plotlines and characterizations continue, even older plotlines and characters make returns, and it all blends together quite well. We got some history, we got some resolutions, and we got more questions to be asked. And we got a killer final 2 pages.
Story wise, Starscream is a standout here. Also important is Bludgeon, and his attack on Unicron and position in the grand scheme of things. At this point, Bludgeon is a con to keep an eye on, like really, go back and read all his adventures post Death of Optimus Prime, and then finish with this one.
Finally, as a nod to the Hasbro Universe itself, we get 3 different stories worth of appearances and 2 different creation/backstories, with the 3rd actually being a back up comic featuring a well known Maximal and the final stand of Scarlett's Strike Force.
Is it a filler issue? Yes, it is. It is the lull between storms. Is it a boring or not overly good filler? Absolutely not. It gives us so much, it still gives action, it still has the characters, it still has all the moments, and it has the perfect build up and a great lead in to the next. It is serialized, but it does not suffer all that badly for it.
And in case you forgot, Skywarp is equally as fun as Starscream. Now all we needed was a Thundercracker appearance and we would have had seeker gold.
Art
Simply put, the marriage of artist and colorist for this series could not have been any more perfect. And this is not just me, this is the Seibertron.com review room talking here folks. You cannot beat the lines of Milne fused with the colors of Cheng. You can't, it's that simple.
The vast backgrounds and equally vast cast, the uniqueness of each Cybertronian's design, the fun of space and the grounds of Cybertron, it all looks and feels so good. And it owes everything to Milne and Cheng. They have done fantastic for all 3 Unicron titles released so far, and there is no indication that we should expect less in the remaining 4. And if the last page is anything to go by, epic will still fail to describe the coming events.
And a final nod to the important final part of the art team: Tom B. Long. Letters are so easy to overlook, but in this issue, between Bludgeon, Omega Supreme, and the rest of the cast, the letters get a chance to shine, and it is fantastic at how many different ways you can create a conversation.
Well done crew!
Final Thoughts
As you can tell, this issue was mainly character driven, by interactions between characters fresh back for their final appearances. It has some action, some backstory, some main story, and bit of final payoffs. It was a good story with excellent art, and a great lead in that managed to not bore the audience nor make them think anything less than a good story is ahead.
With that all in mind, despite what we learned here, next issue cannot come soon enough. We have reached what appears to be the big moment fairly early in the story. While it may not be the climax of the story itself, it still will be big and fun, especially with characters by Barber and art by Milne, Cheng, and Long.
Have a score, and let's get on to that issue 3 folks.
And finally, as with all Unicron reviews, we feature a Skillet song as the theme for this review, and ultimately for things to come.
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 26th, 2018 @ 2:17am CDT
Posted by Va'al on July 26th, 2018 @ 2:23am CDT
The way in which Starscream is being re-used, with Optimus Prime's reaction to it all, is a very nice way of playing with a character that has been established as mercurial but also considering the developments he's been through in recent stories.
I do wonder what on earth Bumblebee's role in all of this is, and I'm still not too keen on his return right now. Much as I wasn't with Shockwave. I mean, what's done is done, but still...
As for Unicron's true nature, and that organic character showing up - I know there's a lot of talk about that behind the scenes, but I don't know what I make of it. Yet.
Posted by Steponahen Day on July 26th, 2018 @ 5:32am CDT
But Unicron needs to be able to devour an entire universe in our view for once, we've been told he's done it before but we've never seen it happen apart from a few planets getting eaten. In fact, I feel as if I might be the only one wants Unicron to win and devour everything. So All hail Unicron, the Chaos Bringer.
Posted by Steponahen Day on July 26th, 2018 @ 5:32am CDT
But Unicron needs to be able to devour an entire universe in our view for once, we've been told he's done it before but we've never seen it happen apart from a few planets getting eaten. In fact, I feel as if I might be the only one wants Unicron to win and devour everything. So All hail Unicron, the Chaos Bringer.
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 26th, 2018 @ 6:09am CDT
Posted by Randomhero on July 26th, 2018 @ 8:17am CDT
Steponahen Day wrote:Having caught up with the whole thing, I really just want to see Unicron devour a universe in its full before he dies, if he even dies considering he has pretty much all of Shockwave's ores on him. But I hope that with Megatron's return things take a change, hoping Megatron isn't a Decepticon again which seems unlikely.
But Unicron needs to be able to devour an entire universe in our view for once, we've been told he's done it before but we've never seen it happen apart from a few planets getting eaten. In fact, I feel as if I might be the only one wants Unicron to win and devour everything. So All hail Unicron, the Chaos Bringer.
Yeah I kinda want a continuity that’s been the longest running amount of stories not be destroyed. The series deserves a good ending and Megatron and LL arnt part of this.
Also hate to break it to you but Optimus Prime #25 takes place after unicron #6. It’s an epilogue to the entire IDW-verse. So spoiler alert: they win. Shocking.