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#4 is gonna be a good issue, I can feel it. With the way he works, Roche will have this be big, and lead into the bigger conclusion. Although, I predict a death in this one, at least one, maybe more. With Last Stand, he killed 1 in #3 and 3 in #4, so this should be the issue with the body count if he stays true to self

So, this is the "Roadbuster affair". I'm not sure how Fisitron could spin this as anything other than horrific, so I assume he heard a very different version of the story, just like the deaths of Squadron X in Last Stand.

Good to see Mortilus mentioned again; nice bit of world building. Wanna' learn more about any connection to Tarantulas. He could be another "spawn of Mortilus" like Trypticon was.

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:#4 is gonna be a good issue, I can feel it. With the way he works, Roche will have this be big, and lead into the bigger conclusion. Although, I predict a death in this one, at least one, maybe more. With Last Stand, he killed 1 in #3 and 3 in #4, so this should be the issue with the body count if he stays true to self

Do you think they will reveal who that bot that Tarantulas made is now?

william-james88 wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:#4 is gonna be a good issue, I can feel it. With the way he works, Roche will have this be big, and lead into the bigger conclusion. Although, I predict a death in this one, at least one, maybe more. With Last Stand, he killed 1 in #3 and 3 in #4, so this should be the issue with the body count if he stays true to self

Do you think they will reveal who that bot that Tarantulas made is now?

I kinda hope, but at the same time, I feel that may be like a last 5 pages of the whole series secret, if it is revealed here

wow. this is really some awesome work by Roche. Outstanding.

william-james88 wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:#4 is gonna be a good issue, I can feel it. With the way he works, Roche will have this be big, and lead into the bigger conclusion. Although, I predict a death in this one, at least one, maybe more. With Last Stand, he killed 1 in #3 and 3 in #4, so this should be the issue with the body count if he stays true to self

Do you think they will reveal who that bot that Tarantulas made is now?

If it's who we all seem to think it is, I could see it either dropping at the end of this issue, or as a quiet epilogue to the final issue.

Four million years of war secrets: imagine the scale of it all! [It's bad enough here with the 'Panama Papers'.]

Synopsis
WEB OF DECEIT! The search for PROWL leads the WRECKERS deep into enemy territory—and that’s where they’re at their best! Unfortunately, with the lives they’ve lived—the pasts they battle to escape—even their best isn’t enough to save everybody.



Story

After the break in the mini-series, we return to the happy escapades of a bunch of loveable misfits, who just happen to wander through the woods and get caught in the web of a spider. Imagine if Nick Roche approached Sins of the Wreckers in that fashion, and then move several steps opposite - darkness falls. Again.



We move through Tarantulas' web as guilt weaves its tale through the minds and past of Roadbuster, Hubcap, Prowl, Arcee and Springer, with the biggest and the smallest of the lot revealing the beginning of the shared sinful paths, and how they have encountered and become who they are now.



On the other side, the team of Wreckers and the Chimeracons, are still working their way through to Tarantulas and his prey, finding a way through the Noisemaze, finding their way through the mess that Prowl has landed everyone into. And they're fairly straightforward about it. Wrecker style.



There is also - as is to be expected by now - some seriously dark humour in the book, almost a breather in between the even darker actions and dialogue taking place. But be ready for another big, dense, heavy read (in a good way, ultimately, but heavy nonetheless), as issue #4 is where Roche falls into the rabbit hole. More thoughts on this below.

Art

As expected, the darkness in the story crawls and creeps not only into the linework, where the organic and the mechanical blend in a really intriguing fashion - if not grotesquely so - but also into the panel composition, with a lot of blank and black spaces, filled yes with dialogue, but also with ominous pauses...



Josh Burcham and Joana Lafuente's colours are wonderfully attuned to the linework provided, and we get some seriously murky, shadowy, closed and/or trippy, depending on the scene, backgrounds to accompany the story being told - or the plans being set in motion. From the past to the present, via the Noisemaze, we see the colourists' skills at full power.



As for the lettering, this issue allows for some of the most varied and appreciated work from Tom B. Long, given free rein over a number of techniques, from fading, to fonts, to sizing - the result is an integral part of both story and visuals, without which it might not work the same. On he cover front, the main Roadbuster narrative is taken on by Roche and Burcham, with the latter also playing with Prowl playing with lives (Kup in particular), and Jack Lawrence brings us the new, complete team of Wreckers in the thumbnailed variant.


Thoughts
Spoilerish ahead

Other readers have pointed out how, much like Roberts in recent MTMTE issues, there are some parallels here in SOTW with the previous Wrecker-centric volume. While that is undoubtedly true, it is also the case that Roche has taken the issues of guilt and violence very much to their limit, here. The issue may not be an easy read for some, as it is as graphic as it is dense, physically and mentally for the characters, and the latter for the readers too.



The way in which Roche, Burcham, Lafuente, and Long collaborate on the same story shows a level of passion and understanding of the different dynamics, between characters, between creators, between book and readers, that can only end up bringing about a book like this. The one concern, perhaps, is about the pacing - the build-up is so strong, the development so good, that it feels like this could've been the end of the story. How will next month rack up?

Ok, this is just getting ridiculous. Who thought of the great idea that was "kill all the actually interesting characters and leave every predictable character alive"? I can literally predict what the remaining characters will do. Impactor and Guzzle will murder more interesting characters, Kup and Springer will be the only interesting characters left, Prowl will do some stupid treachery shit, and Tarantulas will be a dick to everyone.

I don't know what is about this series but it's just not really amazing to me anymore. I don't hate it, I like it but 'the wow factor' isn't there. I don't want to blame the 2 month delay or the fact we know prowl comes out fine in this and that Arcee and Kup are fine as well but it's just kind of a forgettable story and comic. I get the stakes are high but we know how this ends in the larger picture of things. Prowl doesn't change by the end of this. He's not nicks character anymore, he's john's. Maybe that's it.

It's like I've said before, this is not the series everyone really wanted as a sequel to LSOTW. I think it's a good story and I do enjoy it but I find myself asking "is this story relevant in the current era of transformers comics that we're getting because it's a story doesn't matter if it happened or not because other bigger things are happening in James and Johns books"

Dr Va'al wrote:

Really? You had to pick that one huh?

Overall not bad. Kinda got what I was anticipating too. Now just gotta wait for the finale

I dunno. I like this series. I like how they are incorporating different transformers and themes into this one universe and in a way that makes since. I stoked on the beast modes now because they make a lot more since. I like what is going on but I do have to agree that I wish we didn't already know these characters fates.

Can't even find it on iBooks so I can read it and share my own thoughts...

Mindmaster wrote:Can't even find it on iBooks so I can read it and share my own thoughts...

For whatever reason it wasn't on iBooks, I just went and picked it up on comixology.

I got to agree with randomhero here. If this story was given to us before RID and MTMTE it would be great. But we have a higher quality of tf comics out now and this just doesn't make the cut.
Every character besides tidal wave has the same boring personality and make the same bad jokes. Hi, I'm angry and sarcastic. Me too. Me too.
Im just disappointed to see the wreckers story reduced to this.

This is excellent.

https://twitter.com/BOREZET/status/731130909131309057

Dr Va'al wrote:This is excellent.

https://twitter.com/BOREZET/status/731130909131309057

Hehehe! That is a good one. I love these stupid little GIFs

LE0KING wrote:I got to agree with randomhero here. If this story was given to us before RID and MTMTE it would be great. But we have a higher quality of tf comics out now and this just doesn't make the cut.
Every character besides tidal wave has the same boring personality and make the same bad jokes. Hi, I'm angry and sarcastic. Me too. Me too.
Im just disappointed to see the wreckers story reduced to this.

I haven't read the rest of the content of this thread, but I'm just going to agree with this comment. I was really hoping for something on par with the Last Stand of the Wreckers story, and Sins has been a let down for me. I don't have any investment in the Wreckers, and I generally think they are a really overhyped bunch, but Last Stand was an excellent story, so I was hopeful that there would have been more of that here, and I haven't found it. I'd love to see there be some kind of penalty for Prowl being this really terrible, manipulative guy, but there isn't, and I'm going to go out on a limb here and say there won't be at the end of this series either. Most of the characters in his feel like another round of "hey!! It's that guy!! Cool!" and that is crappy.
I do like Tidal Wave though.

Calling it now: What ever Tarantulas did to Verity is going to turn her into an animorph.

We've seen some non-TV Beast Wars characters in this story, so what not?

BATTLEMASTER IIC wrote:Calling it now: What ever Tarantulas did to Verity is going to turn her into an animorph.

We've seen some non-TV Beast Wars characters in this story, so what not?

Why not a HeadTitanmaster..?

Dr Va'al wrote:

BATTLEMASTER IIC wrote:Calling it now: What ever Tarantulas did to Verity is going to turn her into an animorph.

We've seen some non-TV Beast Wars characters in this story, so what not?

Why not a HeadTitanmaster..?

*mindblown*

I'd be down for that. Who'd it be for if it happens, I wonder? Arcee, maybe?

If that were the case, a titanmaster for Roadbuster would make more sense considering he has a need to get ahead in life now.

Who's getting toys, though?

BATTLEMASTER IIC wrote:If that were the case, a titanmaster for Roadbuster would make more sense considering he has a need to get ahead in life now.

#toosoon

Dr Va'al wrote:Who's getting toys, though?

The Minerva rumors are strong. Not saying Verity would be Minerva's head, but rather, that could make a base mold for a Stakeout which could then have a Verity Titanmaster.

All I really know is that this line is the perfect time for Sunstreaker with Onions.

Mindmaster wrote:
#toosoon

I know, I'm sad about Roadbuster too

ScottyP wrote:All I really know is that this line is the perfect time for Sunstreaker with Onions.

Kekeke

Ya know what? That's perfect!

We get a Sunstreaker with Hunter

We get someone with Verity (which could be canon)

All we need is Jimmy to somehow get wrapped up in this (where'd he get to anyway)

And BLAM! We have the original IDW human cast in toy form as titanmasters!!!!

We were expecting the last issue of IDW Publishing's Transformers: Sins of the Wreckers - from the mind and hands of Nick Roche with Josh Burcham - to hit some point in May. That was, obviously, not the case, so we did some investigating with the publisher, and now have a confirmation that issue #5 will be released on June 22nd! Refresh your mind on the issue below, and join the conversation in the Energon Pub here.

THIS IS THE END! Will PROWL get his comeuppance? Will TARANTULAS conquer all? Will any of the WRECKERS survive? It’s wreck and rule one last time, with everything on the line!

Man, I frickin' LOVE this design fer Tarantulas!

Big Grim wrote:Man, I frickin' LOVE this design fer Tarantulas!

Me too. It's why I found a Transmetal Tarantulas on ebay. It's the closest thing to it.

Mr Skram wrote:

Big Grim wrote:Man, I frickin' LOVE this design fer Tarantulas!

Me too. It's why I found a Transmetal Tarantulas on ebay. It's the closest thing to it.

Same. Ttransmetal Tarantulas was my first beast wars toy and still my favorite. i managed to get a complete one for pennies and its great to have him with my Classics figures next to combiner Wars Prowl.

Pretty sure I still have my transmetal Tarnatulas somewhere!

The Nick Roche train keeps steaming ahead as we wait for the final issue to his later this month, and we find out more or less what will be included in the collected edition of the mini-series. Transformers: Sins of the Wreckers TPB - solicited for this August - will include no new stories as Last Stand did, but will have plenty of extras alongside the five issues. Check out more info below, and join in the conversation on the Seibertron.com discussion boards!

Working on the backmatter for the Sins Of The Wreckers Trade. No new stories, we're busier than we were six years ago, but loads of unseen art, character designs, process notes, excerpts from the original outline and trivia. Sound alright?

Is there anything that you DON'T want as Wrextras in the trade? What annoys you in backmatter terms? What DO you like?

What do I like? I'd like you to bring back my beloved Roadbuster you murderous poopooheads!

reVelske wrote:What do I like? I'd like you to bring back my beloved Roadbuster you murderous poopooheads!

They're just paving the way for him to become a titanmaster, that's all
but really, I like Twintwist and Topspin and am not happy they died too, same with Stakeout. I really like them

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:They're just paving the way for him to become a titanmaster, that's all
but really, I like Twintwist and Topspin and am not happy they died too, same with Stakeout. I really like them

Same, there are so few remaining original Wreckers left to give them authentic Wreckers feel, and I've always been terrified that Whirl or Roadbuster die before the other did, because them apart with no chance of reunion strikes me as intensely wrong.

reVelske wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:They're just paving the way for him to become a titanmaster, that's all
but really, I like Twintwist and Topspin and am not happy they died too, same with Stakeout. I really like them

Same, there are so few remaining original Wreckers left to give them authentic Wreckers feel, and I've always been terrified that Whirl or Roadbuster die before the other did, because them apart with no chance of reunion strikes me as intensely wrong.

I agree with this. But the strange thing about IDW is that they've barely been seen together at all. and it was Roadbuster that removed Whirl from the wreckers to begin with. But I am hoping they don't kill Whirl either (yeah, he's in another story, but still the threat of death is very evident)

I wonder if Roadbuster's death will be used in some way for a Whirl-centric story in the future?

We're getting closer the publication date for the last issue of Transformers: Sins of the Wreckers, and iTunes provides the second first look at the opening pages for #5 - check them out below, and head back here next week for the probable full preview!

THIS IS THE END! Will PROWL get his comeuppance? Will TARANTULAS conquer all? Will any of the WRECKERS survive? It’s wreck and rule one last time, with everything on the line!

So this is still going on huh?
I kinda thought they cancelled it due to the fact that it stunk so bad.

LE0KING wrote:So this is still going on huh? >:oP
I kinda thought they cancelled it due to the fact that it stunk so bad.

:P Wrong on both counts, mate.

Roche was having some personal things he needed to attend to, so the schedule was really messed up. but IDW was really good with him and still let the whole thing happen. And I'm glad we're finally getting the conclusion. I've been enjoying the series

RevTibe wrote:

LE0KING wrote:So this is still going on huh?
I kinda thought they cancelled it due to the fact that it stunk so bad.

:P Wrong on both counts, mate.

Yeah, I know most don't share my opinions on this series. And personally I hate it when people just get on here to complain, but I still gotta say; this comic is just disappointing.
I feel like he dumbed down everyone's personality, making them all the same: snarky, sarcastic, angry, and homicidal.
The dialog doesn't flow because no one is building off of what anyone else is saying. It's like they're having a conversation but don't know what the topic is. It's just sarcastic one-liner after sarcastic one-liner.
He just doesn't do the dialog well. There was a whole scene between carnavac and impactor where he explained their motives and I still have no idea why they are on earth or what they want.
Not to mention I hate when he has them start to say something only for them to stop and start the sentence over. I know why he does this but it's annoying.

The art is good though, and some of the basic concepts are cool. It just boils down to not liking the way he makes the characters interact with each other.

Sorry, I didn't mean for that to become a rant.

LE0KING wrote:

RevTibe wrote:

LE0KING wrote:So this is still going on huh?
I kinda thought they cancelled it due to the fact that it stunk so bad.

:P Wrong on both counts, mate.

Yeah, I know most don't share my opinions on this series. And personally I hate it when people just get on here to complain, but I still gotta say; this comic is just disappointing.
I feel like he dumbed down everyone's personality, making them all the same: snarky, sarcastic, angry, and homicidal.
The dialog doesn't flow because no one is building off of what anyone else is saying. It's like they're having a conversation but don't know what the topic is. It's just sarcastic one-liner after sarcastic one-liner.
He just doesn't do the dialog well. There was a whole scene between carnavac and impactor where he explained their motives and I still have no idea why they are on earth or what they want.
Not to mention I hate when he has them start to say something only for them to stop and start the sentence over. I know why he does this but it's annoying.

The art is good though, and some of the basic concepts are cool. It just boils down to not liking the way he makes the characters interact with each other.

Sorry, I didn't mean for that to become a rant.

I kind of agree, actually. I don't dislike this series that much, but it isn't the most satisfying story I've ever read. Roche could definitely salvage the story for me right here at the end, but it seems like there's a lot of ground left to cover to wrap everything up in a satisfying way and this would have to be an amazing last issue. And I agree that the dialogue has fallen flat at times.

It's funny how problems in various media tend to show up in groups. I usually notice it with movies, but I'm definitely seeing trends in all of the Transformers comics right now in terms of dialogue seeming wonky, characters not feeling consistent, and lackluster endings to arcs. It just seems baffling when I stop to consider how many people are involved in making these things that they all struggle with the same things. Obviously, I can't demand a perfect product every time, but it seems like there should be a wider range of mistakes to make.

Still, this series has taken Tarantulas and made him an even more uncomfortable, creepy character for me, and I can always be grateful to it for that.

The first final chapter coming from IDW Publishing this week is for the second Wreckers mini-series: find below the full preview of Transformers: Sins of the Wreckers #5 (because Newsarama), delayed yet again but finally here, by the mind and hands of Nick Roche and Josh Burcham. Of course, we will have a review ready for you on release day, so head back to Seibertron.com then!

Transformers: Sins of the Wreckers #5 (of 5)
Nick Roche (w & a & c)
THIS IS THE END! Will PROWL get his comeuppance? Will TARANTULAS conquer all? Will any of the WRECKERS survive? It’s wreck and rule one last time, with everything on the line!
FC • 32 pages • $3.99

Bullet points:
Variant cover by Guido Guidi!

Dear IDW,

Please give EJ more work. He deserves it.

You know it's a pity that the follow up to lsotw just hasn't matched the first book. Personally I think the choice of villains as beast wars villains was a bad choice. Overlord and a plethora of cons in the first was always going to be hard to top but I feel the beasts are so out of place it's distracting.

I would have went nearly an Armada route, hot shot in with flame throwers keep tidal wave and have sideways be the villain.

The presence of arcee bothers me. It seems in all idw books a fembot is crammed in and down the throat of the reader. Could have really done without her because other than Michael bay nobody is killing a fembot engaged in a war zone.

Good to see EJ Su back, if only for a cover. Now if we could just get rid of Ramondelli.... Yep, I went there again.

Prowl4@ Arcee is a strong fighter who can hold her own against Galvatron, if their was someone I wanted in a battlezone then it would be her.

Also Sideways would only really work if Unicron was involved, and IDW are holding back on him.