IDW Transformers: Sins of the Wreckers #1 Full Preview
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The second release for the week by IDW Publishing brings the long-awaited return of the most ill-fitting crew of Cybertronian mercenaries around - Sins of the Wreckers starts here! Check out the full preview below, and make sure to drop by the Energon Pub for our review and discussion once it's released.
Transformers: Sins of the Wreckers #1 (of 5)—SPOTLIGHT
Nick Roche (w & a & c)
THE WRECKERS RETURN! Somebody’s kidnapped PROWL… but does anybody want him back? A lifetime of messing with everybody’s lives comes around to haunt him. Fortunately, he’s always got a plan. In this case… the one team of brutal, broken heroes… the WRECKERS!
FC • 32 pages • $3.99
Bullet Points:
The sequel to LAST STAND OF THE WRECKERS—one of the most acclaimed comics in TRANSFORMERS history!
PROWL gets his comeuppance!
Features ARCEE and KUP… and the WRECKERS!
The secret history of PROWL revealed, leaving everybody hurt.
Variant cover by Alex Milne!
Credit(s): IDW
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Re: IDW Transformers: Sins of the Wreckers #1 Full Preview (1743300)
Posted by Henry921 on November 21st, 2015 @ 5:45am CST
Posted by Henry921 on November 21st, 2015 @ 5:45am CST
Some people just can't live without a war.
Loving this so far.
Loving this so far.
Re: IDW Transformers: Sins of the Wreckers #1 Full Preview (1743422)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on November 21st, 2015 @ 2:54pm CST
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on November 21st, 2015 @ 2:54pm CST
Glad to see and hear about all these guys again. I'm looking forward to the storyline 
Re: IDW Transformers: Sins of the Wreckers #1 Full Preview (1743453)
Posted by LE0KING on November 21st, 2015 @ 5:05pm CST
Posted by LE0KING on November 21st, 2015 @ 5:05pm CST
Man MMC timed their spartan release just right. I wasn't going to get it, but after reading this little preview I think I might.
Re: IDW Transformers: Sins of the Wreckers #1 Full Preview (1743619)
Posted by Doctor McGrath on November 22nd, 2015 @ 11:22am CST
Posted by Doctor McGrath on November 22nd, 2015 @ 11:22am CST
So much hype!!! I am pumped for this.
Re: IDW Transformers: Sins of the Wreckers #1 Full Preview (1743667)
Posted by Randomhero on November 22nd, 2015 @ 3:22pm CST
Posted by Randomhero on November 22nd, 2015 @ 3:22pm CST
It looks nice. Not a fan of the coloring and the continuity is a giant mess. Maybe it takes place before combiner wars? Be terrible especially since that's been almost a year from where we are now. Maybe after this conquers arc? Who knows. Bugs the hell out of me though.
Re: IDW Transformers: Sins of the Wreckers #1 Full Preview (1743668)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on November 22nd, 2015 @ 3:48pm CST
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on November 22nd, 2015 @ 3:48pm CST
I'm sure it will be explained during the story when this actually takes place.
Re: IDW Transformers: Sins of the Wreckers #1 Full Preview (1743681)
Posted by Doctor McGrath on November 22nd, 2015 @ 4:41pm CST
How is it a mess? This takes place after Combiner Wars, directly after the Barber arc we are in now as far as I know. The preview also states it's been 1467 days since Springer was injured so that right there is the exact timeline.
Posted by Doctor McGrath on November 22nd, 2015 @ 4:41pm CST
Randomhero wrote:It looks nice. Not a fan of the coloring and the continuity is a giant mess. Maybe it takes place before combiner wars? Be terrible especially since that's been almost a year from where we are now. Maybe after this conquers arc? Who knows. Bugs the hell out of me though.
How is it a mess? This takes place after Combiner Wars, directly after the Barber arc we are in now as far as I know. The preview also states it's been 1467 days since Springer was injured so that right there is the exact timeline.
Re: IDW Transformers: Sins of the Wreckers #1 Full Preview (1743710)
Posted by Randomhero on November 22nd, 2015 @ 7:25pm CST
Because Prowl is a wanted Fugitive. Issue 42 ended with him escaping custody being taken by Rattrap. Issue 44 revealed he is a wanted fugitive with no allies and with Wanted posters everywhere. Arcee was even filled in with what he did during Combiner Wars and Prowl is not in this current story at all. This comic shows that Prowl was on the Ark-27 and just disappeared from his quarters. 1. hes not with the Earth Autobots right now because hes a wanted fugitive everywhere and 2. The Ark is demolished right now. it is beat to hell and here, its fine. I even asked Nick personally on facebook "when does this take place?" he was kind enough to reply back to me but all he said "the current timeline of IDW" i responded back my points. "but Prowl is a wanted fugitive at the moment. he has no allies with any Autobots, especially Arcee and Kup because they know he went too far in Combiner Hunters" sadly nick did not reply to that.
Honestly? I dont think Nick knew what was going on with Prowl in John's book when he started Sins of the Wreckers. I'm not saying this is all nicks fault because thats something the editor should inform him on. Prowl is a huge character in this series, its essentially about him being missing but we know where he is and he wasnt captured. he escaped custody by Rattrap.
some have tried to justify this saying 'obviously Arcee snuck him back to Earth and he joined back up" no, thats a scene that would require being shown in John's Transformers book especially with Autbots like Kup, Jazz and Sideswipe on Ark-27 who are mroe loyal to Optimus than Arcee. Prowl is an important character to what John Barber has been doing and thats a cop-out to try explain whats going on and I have more respect for IDW and the people creating these books to do something that unprofessional. thats the equivalent of skipping Brainstorm's trial after Elegant Chaos and him just appearing as part of the crew again. Everyone would be screaming "What the is he doing hanging out with everyone again"
Posted by Randomhero on November 22nd, 2015 @ 7:25pm CST
Doctor McGrath wrote:Randomhero wrote:It looks nice. Not a fan of the coloring and the continuity is a giant mess. Maybe it takes place before combiner wars? Be terrible especially since that's been almost a year from where we are now. Maybe after this conquers arc? Who knows. Bugs the hell out of me though.
How is it a mess? This takes place after Combiner Wars, directly after the Barber arc we are in now as far as I know. The preview also states it's been 1467 days since Springer was injured so that right there is the exact timeline.
Because Prowl is a wanted Fugitive. Issue 42 ended with him escaping custody being taken by Rattrap. Issue 44 revealed he is a wanted fugitive with no allies and with Wanted posters everywhere. Arcee was even filled in with what he did during Combiner Wars and Prowl is not in this current story at all. This comic shows that Prowl was on the Ark-27 and just disappeared from his quarters. 1. hes not with the Earth Autobots right now because hes a wanted fugitive everywhere and 2. The Ark is demolished right now. it is beat to hell and here, its fine. I even asked Nick personally on facebook "when does this take place?" he was kind enough to reply back to me but all he said "the current timeline of IDW" i responded back my points. "but Prowl is a wanted fugitive at the moment. he has no allies with any Autobots, especially Arcee and Kup because they know he went too far in Combiner Hunters" sadly nick did not reply to that.
Honestly? I dont think Nick knew what was going on with Prowl in John's book when he started Sins of the Wreckers. I'm not saying this is all nicks fault because thats something the editor should inform him on. Prowl is a huge character in this series, its essentially about him being missing but we know where he is and he wasnt captured. he escaped custody by Rattrap.
some have tried to justify this saying 'obviously Arcee snuck him back to Earth and he joined back up" no, thats a scene that would require being shown in John's Transformers book especially with Autbots like Kup, Jazz and Sideswipe on Ark-27 who are mroe loyal to Optimus than Arcee. Prowl is an important character to what John Barber has been doing and thats a cop-out to try explain whats going on and I have more respect for IDW and the people creating these books to do something that unprofessional. thats the equivalent of skipping Brainstorm's trial after Elegant Chaos and him just appearing as part of the crew again. Everyone would be screaming "What the is he doing hanging out with everyone again"
Re: IDW Transformers: Sins of the Wreckers #1 Full Preview (1743715)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on November 22nd, 2015 @ 7:43pm CST
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on November 22nd, 2015 @ 7:43pm CST
It could be possible that this was set in the time between Prime's departure and Prowl taking the bridge to cybertron, where his events happened. This could be a going back in time to explain stuff story
Re: IDW Transformers: Sins of the Wreckers #1 Full Preview (1743716)
Posted by Doctor McGrath on November 22nd, 2015 @ 7:48pm CST
Posted by Doctor McGrath on November 22nd, 2015 @ 7:48pm CST
I wouldn't over think it. This is the preview for the first issue in a mini-series. It will all work out.
Re: IDW Transformers: Sins of the Wreckers #1 Full Preview (1743721)
Posted by Randomhero on November 22nd, 2015 @ 9:00pm CST
Posted by Randomhero on November 22nd, 2015 @ 9:00pm CST
I honestly hope so. I'm not trying to be a wet blanket but the comics are my medium with transformers anymore. I don't watch the cartoons anymore, I collect only classics/generations and I'm picky with continuity, Andy Schmidt just left me so jagged and John has been so damn good running IDW for the past 4 years I just get nitpicky when I know this universe so well and when something doesn't doesn't fit, I get a little "hold on a second" lol. I do have faith in this book. I just don't want this to be something that someone has to fix later. IDW transformers has become better than that in the recent years with their own stories. Yeah they fixed a lot of mess ups the previous did but John hasn't had to fix anything he's been in charge of.
Re: IDW Transformers: Sins of the Wreckers #1 Full Preview (1743761)
Posted by Va'al on November 23rd, 2015 @ 3:41am CST
Posted by Va'al on November 23rd, 2015 @ 3:41am CST
For people wondering about the timeline, I would recommend listening to Nick Roche talking about it directly on the 129th Twincast Podcast. 
http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/ ... ers/34136/
He addresses this point really early on, too.
http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/ ... ers/34136/
He addresses this point really early on, too.
Re: IDW Transformers: Sins of the Wreckers #1 Full Preview (1744139)
Posted by Va'al on November 25th, 2015 @ 2:16am CST
Synopsis
THE WRECKERS RETURN! Somebody’s kidnapped PROWL… but does anybody want him back? A lifetime of messing with everybody’s lives comes around to haunt him. Fortunately, he’s always got a plan. In this case… the one team of brutal, broken heroes… the WRECKERS!
Such hero, much broken
Story
It has taken some time to convince Nick Roche and the editorial team over at IDW to bring a bunch of clutch munching piston-lickers back to the stage - but years later, here we are again, sans James Roberts, looking at a very different status quo, a similar roster of names and faces, and a much, much darker (if possible) storyline.
Good start..?
We start from where we left in Last Stand, with the passing of time having passed, and done its thing, Springer still in a coma, Impactor and whatever is left of the Wreckers trying to find their place in the new reality of Cybertron and the Council of Worlds. The transition is seamless, in accounting for the time that sits between the two stories.
Establishing shot
We also identify the two majorly major players of the story - from this point, at least - in Verity Carlo and Kup, two people who have all the reasons to dislike Prowl, with a passion, though not necessarily with the knowledge to do so especially in Kup's case.
..and of course, this guy
One concern I do have, though it has been addressed by Roche and IDW more in general, is to do with the exact placing of this story. There are significant scenes with the Ark that do not coincide with The Transformers #47, and something seems to have shifted in Prowl's disappearance, too. That said, in John Barber we trust.
Art
The visual team, linework and layouts at least, is still concentrated in the hands and floppy hair of Roche himself, and he brings, in my opinion, something quite different to the previous Wreckers outing in Last Stand, and something perhaps more fitting to the tone he has set for his own story this time round. That, and a combination of some really dynamic work in the layouts.
Stakepunch!
A tone, of course, that has been perfectly captured and even enhanced in the chromatic wonders of Josh Burcham, who delivers a variety of lonelinesses depending on the scenes, characters, and environments. Blending a very dirty, gritty colouring and lighting for indoor conversations, and cold colours for outdoors Nome, the isolation is palpable.
Greyscale and sepia - mmhmm
Unsurprisingly, Tom B. Long is taking up lettering duties, and there is nothing I have to say that the lettering doesn't do for itself. Tone aside, we get snippets into the dark humour of the book, and the dynamics established among the cast. A cast which is, for the most part, highlighted on the covers with Roche and Burcham giving a cinematographic feel to the main one, guests Declan Shalvey and Jordie Bellaire offering a magnificent Impactor, and Alex Milne teaming up with Josh Perez for a Springer-tastic LSTOW variant (thumbnailed).
Thoughts
Spoilerish ahead
We've seen it with Redemption, we've seen it in recent issue of The Transformers, it has been running in the Scavengers arc, and more so in this week's release of MTMTE - the status quo for the TFverse has changed. Some characters have not. Some characters are trying to adapt. Some cannot. This is their story, as told by cruel Nick Roche.
Look at that smug mug
Tight editing on the book will ensure that everything slides into place, I'm sure, removing the only major criticism I have of the issue. There are some surprisingly poignant, powerful, ominous, intriguing moments which you just need to enjoy. Make sure you take a break between this and MTMTE, too.
Posted by Va'al on November 25th, 2015 @ 2:16am CST
Last Stand of the Wreckers: Part II - Stand Laster
(Spoiler free-ish)
(Spoiler free-ish)
Synopsis
THE WRECKERS RETURN! Somebody’s kidnapped PROWL… but does anybody want him back? A lifetime of messing with everybody’s lives comes around to haunt him. Fortunately, he’s always got a plan. In this case… the one team of brutal, broken heroes… the WRECKERS!
Such hero, much broken
Story
It has taken some time to convince Nick Roche and the editorial team over at IDW to bring a bunch of clutch munching piston-lickers back to the stage - but years later, here we are again, sans James Roberts, looking at a very different status quo, a similar roster of names and faces, and a much, much darker (if possible) storyline.
Good start..?
We start from where we left in Last Stand, with the passing of time having passed, and done its thing, Springer still in a coma, Impactor and whatever is left of the Wreckers trying to find their place in the new reality of Cybertron and the Council of Worlds. The transition is seamless, in accounting for the time that sits between the two stories.
Establishing shot
We also identify the two majorly major players of the story - from this point, at least - in Verity Carlo and Kup, two people who have all the reasons to dislike Prowl, with a passion, though not necessarily with the knowledge to do so especially in Kup's case.
..and of course, this guy
One concern I do have, though it has been addressed by Roche and IDW more in general, is to do with the exact placing of this story. There are significant scenes with the Ark that do not coincide with The Transformers #47, and something seems to have shifted in Prowl's disappearance, too. That said, in John Barber we trust.
Art
The visual team, linework and layouts at least, is still concentrated in the hands and floppy hair of Roche himself, and he brings, in my opinion, something quite different to the previous Wreckers outing in Last Stand, and something perhaps more fitting to the tone he has set for his own story this time round. That, and a combination of some really dynamic work in the layouts.
Stakepunch!
A tone, of course, that has been perfectly captured and even enhanced in the chromatic wonders of Josh Burcham, who delivers a variety of lonelinesses depending on the scenes, characters, and environments. Blending a very dirty, gritty colouring and lighting for indoor conversations, and cold colours for outdoors Nome, the isolation is palpable.
Greyscale and sepia - mmhmm
Unsurprisingly, Tom B. Long is taking up lettering duties, and there is nothing I have to say that the lettering doesn't do for itself. Tone aside, we get snippets into the dark humour of the book, and the dynamics established among the cast. A cast which is, for the most part, highlighted on the covers with Roche and Burcham giving a cinematographic feel to the main one, guests Declan Shalvey and Jordie Bellaire offering a magnificent Impactor, and Alex Milne teaming up with Josh Perez for a Springer-tastic LSTOW variant (thumbnailed).
Thoughts
Spoilerish ahead
We've seen it with Redemption, we've seen it in recent issue of The Transformers, it has been running in the Scavengers arc, and more so in this week's release of MTMTE - the status quo for the TFverse has changed. Some characters have not. Some characters are trying to adapt. Some cannot. This is their story, as told by cruel Nick Roche.
Look at that smug mug
Tight editing on the book will ensure that everything slides into place, I'm sure, removing the only major criticism I have of the issue. There are some surprisingly poignant, powerful, ominous, intriguing moments which you just need to enjoy. Make sure you take a break between this and MTMTE, too.
. 
out of
out of
Re: IDW Transformers: Sins of the Wreckers #1 Full Preview (1744143)
Posted by reVelske on November 25th, 2015 @ 2:51am CST
Posted by reVelske on November 25th, 2015 @ 2:51am CST
Oh sweet primus, was that cop car at the end of LSOTW Stakeout the whole time!? MINDBLOWN!
Re: IDW Transformers: Sins of the Wreckers #1 Full Preview (1744161)
Posted by CombaticonsCombine? on November 25th, 2015 @ 8:02am CST
Posted by CombaticonsCombine? on November 25th, 2015 @ 8:02am CST
Jesus, Guzzle. No wonder they were keeping you in that box.
Look at those freaking shoulders.
And the freaking cannon.
Look at those freaking shoulders.
And the freaking cannon.
Re: IDW Transformers: Sins of the Wreckers #1 Full Preview (1744162)
Posted by CombaticonsCombine? on November 25th, 2015 @ 8:05am CST
Posted by CombaticonsCombine? on November 25th, 2015 @ 8:05am CST
Double-post
Re: IDW Transformers: Sins of the Wreckers #1 Full Preview (1744166)
Posted by Genericon #378 on November 25th, 2015 @ 8:20am CST
Posted by Genericon #378 on November 25th, 2015 @ 8:20am CST
Well, Arcee's a greedy bitch. But then, hasn't she always been a useless character in IDW? Springer's back. Awesome! I've got an idea for the song when Springer is shown to be alive and well. Jurassic Park theme. And Stakeout and Hubcap are making their second appearance!
Re: IDW Transformers: Sins of the Wreckers #1 Full Preview (1744169)
Posted by YoungPrime on November 25th, 2015 @ 9:17am CST
My issue with IDW's Arcee is that I wouldn't have as much issue with her if her sole purpose wasn't killing and slapping around bots I have more stock in.
It's basically a case of Barber's favorite character kicking around other people's favorite character. I know people hated Drift at one point but Arcee in my opinion is far worse. Combat wise IDW puts her too high up on a pedestal for my taste.
Posted by YoungPrime on November 25th, 2015 @ 9:17am CST
Genericon #378 wrote:Well, Arcee's a greedy bitch. But then, hasn't she always been a useless character in IDW? Springer's back. Awesome! I've got an idea for the song when Springer is shown to be alive and well. Jurassic Park theme. And Stakeout and Hubcap are making their second appearance!
My issue with IDW's Arcee is that I wouldn't have as much issue with her if her sole purpose wasn't killing and slapping around bots I have more stock in.
It's basically a case of Barber's favorite character kicking around other people's favorite character. I know people hated Drift at one point but Arcee in my opinion is far worse. Combat wise IDW puts her too high up on a pedestal for my taste.
Re: IDW Transformers: Sins of the Wreckers #1 Full Preview (1744186)
Posted by Genericon #378 on November 25th, 2015 @ 12:18pm CST
I have a list of characters Arcee has fought and (more or less) beat: Ratbat, Sunstorm, Blast Off, Blot, Triggerhappy, Ravage, Frenzy and Rumble, the triple changers and Shockwave. Oh, and Bombshell. Skywarp. Five characters that should have kicked her ass in battle are on that list. What a waste.
Posted by Genericon #378 on November 25th, 2015 @ 12:18pm CST
YoungPrime wrote:Genericon #378 wrote:Well, Arcee's a greedy bitch. But then, hasn't she always been a useless character in IDW? Springer's back. Awesome! I've got an idea for the song when Springer is shown to be alive and well. Jurassic Park theme. And Stakeout and Hubcap are making their second appearance!
My issue with IDW's Arcee is that I wouldn't have as much issue with her if her sole purpose wasn't killing and slapping around bots I have more stock in.
It's basically a case of Barber's favorite character kicking around other people's favorite character. I know people hated Drift at one point but Arcee in my opinion is far worse. Combat wise IDW puts her too high up on a pedestal for my taste.
I have a list of characters Arcee has fought and (more or less) beat: Ratbat, Sunstorm, Blast Off, Blot, Triggerhappy, Ravage, Frenzy and Rumble, the triple changers and Shockwave. Oh, and Bombshell. Skywarp. Five characters that should have kicked her ass in battle are on that list. What a waste.
Re: IDW Transformers: Sins of the Wreckers #1 Full Preview (1744187)
Posted by Va'al on November 25th, 2015 @ 12:24pm CST
Posted by Va'al on November 25th, 2015 @ 12:24pm CST
I, for one, think that the betrayal that Arcee feels in the issue is entirely legitimate, given the amount of shit she's been getting and doing from and for Prowl up to this point, only to be sidelined by Springer.
That, and I really like what Barber has done with the character, and how Roche is handling her so far.
That, and I really like what Barber has done with the character, and how Roche is handling her so far.
Re: IDW Transformers: Sins of the Wreckers #1 Full Preview (1744231)
Posted by CaptainMagic on November 25th, 2015 @ 6:24pm CST
Posted by CaptainMagic on November 25th, 2015 @ 6:24pm CST
"A polar bear is dropkicked by a robot that turns into a police car." The next time I need to defend my love of Transformers to somebody, I will simply say those words. This entire issue could have been crap and it still would have been worth it to get to read that sentence. 
Re: IDW Transformers: Sins of the Wreckers #1 Full Preview (1744309)
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on November 26th, 2015 @ 3:44am CST
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on November 26th, 2015 @ 3:44am CST
Well i gave it a go. Still not my kinda thing. Still not a fan of Roche's artwork for the most part (the weird goblin faces still a thing particularly on Kup) but the gritty colours from Burcharm look great. Just not sure who I was supposed to care about enough in this issue to warrant reading the next.
Re: IDW Transformers: Sins of the Wreckers #1 Full Preview (1744313)
Posted by Windsweeper on November 26th, 2015 @ 4:19am CST
Posted by Windsweeper on November 26th, 2015 @ 4:19am CST
Great to see my favourite Micromaster get some screen time.
Re: IDW Transformers: Sins of the Wreckers #1 Full Preview (1744324)
Posted by Genericon #378 on November 26th, 2015 @ 8:13am CST
They didn't say Prowl disappeared from his quarters. They said they had his signal on the screen for a moment and then it disappeared. They went into his quarters to look for any sort of indication why.
Posted by Genericon #378 on November 26th, 2015 @ 8:13am CST
Randomhero wrote:Doctor McGrath wrote:Randomhero wrote:It looks nice. Not a fan of the coloring and the continuity is a giant mess. Maybe it takes place before combiner wars? Be terrible especially since that's been almost a year from where we are now. Maybe after this conquers arc? Who knows. Bugs the hell out of me though.
How is it a mess? This takes place after Combiner Wars, directly after the Barber arc we are in now as far as I know. The preview also states it's been 1467 days since Springer was injured so that right there is the exact timeline.
Because Prowl is a wanted Fugitive. Issue 42 ended with him escaping custody being taken by Rattrap. Issue 44 revealed he is a wanted fugitive with no allies and with Wanted posters everywhere. Arcee was even filled in with what he did during Combiner Wars and Prowl is not in this current story at all. This comic shows that Prowl was on the Ark-27 and just disappeared from his quarters. 1. hes not with the Earth Autobots right now because hes a wanted fugitive everywhere and 2. The Ark is demolished right now. it is beat to hell and here, its fine. I even asked Nick personally on facebook "when does this take place?" he was kind enough to reply back to me but all he said "the current timeline of IDW" i responded back my points. "but Prowl is a wanted fugitive at the moment. he has no allies with any Autobots, especially Arcee and Kup because they know he went too far in Combiner Hunters" sadly nick did not reply to that.
Honestly? I dont think Nick knew what was going on with Prowl in John's book when he started Sins of the Wreckers. I'm not saying this is all nicks fault because thats something the editor should inform him on. Prowl is a huge character in this series, its essentially about him being missing but we know where he is and he wasnt captured. he escaped custody by Rattrap.
some have tried to justify this saying 'obviously Arcee snuck him back to Earth and he joined back up" no, thats a scene that would require being shown in John's Transformers book especially with Autbots like Kup, Jazz and Sideswipe on Ark-27 who are mroe loyal to Optimus than Arcee. Prowl is an important character to what John Barber has been doing and thats a cop-out to try explain whats going on and I have more respect for IDW and the people creating these books to do something that unprofessional. thats the equivalent of skipping Brainstorm's trial after Elegant Chaos and him just appearing as part of the crew again. Everyone would be screaming "What the is he doing hanging out with everyone again"
They didn't say Prowl disappeared from his quarters. They said they had his signal on the screen for a moment and then it disappeared. They went into his quarters to look for any sort of indication why.
Re: IDW Transformers: Sins of the Wreckers #1 Full Preview (1744636)
Posted by Syn_13 on November 28th, 2015 @ 5:16pm CST
Posted by Syn_13 on November 28th, 2015 @ 5:16pm CST
I thought this issue was good, but it just missed a certain something. I wasn't expecting it to blow me out of the water like Last Stand did, but I was still expecting something more. I think it's probably because Last Stand was quite a high octane, thrill ride for the most part, whereas this issue seemed a lot more...subdued.
I think a massive factor is the lack of a charismatic villain. From the get-go Overlord was large and in charge, he oozed charisma and made for a brilliant pantomime villain. This time round we have a mysterious villain lurking in the shadows. I guess we'll just have to wait and see how it pans out.
I didn't actually like the way it jumped quickly from being on Debris with Guzzle locked in the box and Springer disappearing from the life support unit, to suddenly seeing all of them on Earth assembled and ready to kick the proverbial. Thought it jumped too quickly, but I assume the next issue will show what happened in between.
The positives - it was great seeing Roadbuster again, I've missed him. I liked the
introduction of Stakeout, dropkicking the bear, that was a good touch. Arcee seems to be in everything these days, but I do like her, and I hope Roche is going to open up a bit more of her character.
I like the art style, I was a big fan of Roche's work in Spotlight: Kup as it really brought out the dark, gritty feel of the story. I feel that it'll play a part in this story, as it certainly looks to be a darker story than Last Stand. The inks and colours suited the visceral tone of Last Stand and after reading the first issue of Sins I totally get why it's been done the way it has been.
I think a massive factor is the lack of a charismatic villain. From the get-go Overlord was large and in charge, he oozed charisma and made for a brilliant pantomime villain. This time round we have a mysterious villain lurking in the shadows. I guess we'll just have to wait and see how it pans out.
I didn't actually like the way it jumped quickly from being on Debris with Guzzle locked in the box and Springer disappearing from the life support unit, to suddenly seeing all of them on Earth assembled and ready to kick the proverbial. Thought it jumped too quickly, but I assume the next issue will show what happened in between.
The positives - it was great seeing Roadbuster again, I've missed him. I liked the
introduction of Stakeout, dropkicking the bear, that was a good touch. Arcee seems to be in everything these days, but I do like her, and I hope Roche is going to open up a bit more of her character.
I like the art style, I was a big fan of Roche's work in Spotlight: Kup as it really brought out the dark, gritty feel of the story. I feel that it'll play a part in this story, as it certainly looks to be a darker story than Last Stand. The inks and colours suited the visceral tone of Last Stand and after reading the first issue of Sins I totally get why it's been done the way it has been.
Re: IDW Transformers: Sins of the Wreckers #1 Full Preview (1744772)
Posted by DeadCaL on November 29th, 2015 @ 4:49pm CST
Posted by DeadCaL on November 29th, 2015 @ 4:49pm CST
Overall I liked this issue, but the writing was a bit janky and jerky. I'm fully aware of the previous series, but even I was left thinking "Whoa, where are we now?".
Re: IDW Transformers: Sins of the Wreckers #1 Full Preview (1744808)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on November 29th, 2015 @ 9:03pm CST
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on November 29th, 2015 @ 9:03pm CST
D-Max and TFWiki to the rescue here!
Firstly, loved the issue and look forward to the rest of the story. Springer is back up, which is awesome, and I am loving Stakeout.
Secondly: this takes place after Prowl escaped Prime in issue 42, as his eye is still punched out. Plus Rattrap has proven able to sneak up and use the spacebridge, so he and Prowl together could easily get Prowl to use it and to Earth. It was also mention that in issue 45, that Kup and Arcee were returning from somewhere as Jetfire mentioned their absence. It would seem this adventure takes place during that time leading up to all hell breaking loose in the current run, Between Arcee's bridge trip to Cybertron following combiner wars then her return to find Kup and the 2 go off with the wreckers while Jetfire and Cosmos do whatever. That appears to be the timeline.
Thirdly: I feel the death of Verity Carlo coming. It just feels as though she is dying and she will by the end
Firstly, loved the issue and look forward to the rest of the story. Springer is back up, which is awesome, and I am loving Stakeout.
Secondly: this takes place after Prowl escaped Prime in issue 42, as his eye is still punched out. Plus Rattrap has proven able to sneak up and use the spacebridge, so he and Prowl together could easily get Prowl to use it and to Earth. It was also mention that in issue 45, that Kup and Arcee were returning from somewhere as Jetfire mentioned their absence. It would seem this adventure takes place during that time leading up to all hell breaking loose in the current run, Between Arcee's bridge trip to Cybertron following combiner wars then her return to find Kup and the 2 go off with the wreckers while Jetfire and Cosmos do whatever. That appears to be the timeline.
Thirdly: I feel the death of Verity Carlo coming. It just feels as though she is dying and she will by the end
Re: IDW Transformers: Sins of the Wreckers #1 Full Preview (1744880)
Posted by Va'al on November 30th, 2015 @ 3:24am CST
That was what I thought, but I only thought it after the review, so credit to you for clarifying it!
Posted by Va'al on November 30th, 2015 @ 3:24am CST
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Secondly: this takes place after Prowl escaped Prime in issue 42, as his eye is still punched out. Plus Rattrap has proven able to sneak up and use the spacebridge, so he and Prowl together could easily get Prowl to use it and to Earth. It was also mention that in issue 45, that Kup and Arcee were returning from somewhere as Jetfire mentioned their absence. It would seem this adventure takes place during that time leading up to all hell breaking loose in the current run, Between Arcee's bridge trip to Cybertron following combiner wars then her return to find Kup and the 2 go off with the wreckers while Jetfire and Cosmos do whatever. That appears to be the timeline.
That was what I thought, but I only thought it after the review, so credit to you for clarifying it!
Re: IDW Transformers: Sins of the Wreckers #1 Full Preview (1745922)
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on December 4th, 2015 @ 10:38pm CST
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on December 4th, 2015 @ 10:38pm CST
Guys you guys...
SPRINGER'S BACK!!!
SPRINGER'S BACK!!!
Re: IDW Transformers: Sins of the Wreckers #1 Full Preview (1746230)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on December 6th, 2015 @ 8:27pm CST
YES HE IS!!!
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on December 6th, 2015 @ 8:27pm CST
Nemesis Maximo wrote:Guys you guys...
SPRINGER'S BACK!!!
YES HE IS!!!
Re: IDW Transformers: Sins of the Wreckers #1 Full Preview (1748078)
Posted by Va'al on December 15th, 2015 @ 3:42am CST
Posted by Va'al on December 15th, 2015 @ 3:42am CST
Fellow Seibertronian Decepticon Sunstorm helps me do my job by pointing us in the direction of iTunes, and their new small preview of the upcoming second issue of Transformers: Sins of the Wreckers - which you can check out below, all three pages of it, including a brief synopsis!
FROSTY RECEPTION! THE WRECKERS journey to Nome, Alaska to track down the number one suspect in PROWL’s disappearance—their former human ally, VERITY CARLO!
Re: IDW Transformers: Sins of the Wreckers #1 Full Preview (1748097)
Posted by Randomhero on December 15th, 2015 @ 7:28am CST
Posted by Randomhero on December 15th, 2015 @ 7:28am CST
Wow never thought I'd see an IDW version of Tarantulus but I'm stoked now! This series just got a lot better!
Re: IDW Transformers: Sins of the Wreckers #1 Full Preview (1748114)
Posted by Optimizzy on December 15th, 2015 @ 8:32am CST
Posted by Optimizzy on December 15th, 2015 @ 8:32am CST
man....this art is...wow. love it
Re: IDW Transformers: Sins of the Wreckers #1 Full Preview (1748115)
Posted by Optimizzy on December 15th, 2015 @ 8:34am CST
Honestly, my first thought was Airachnid. Especially how they are incorporating so much Aligned now.
Posted by Optimizzy on December 15th, 2015 @ 8:34am CST
Randomhero wrote:Wow never thought I'd see an IDW version of Tarantulus but I'm stoked now! This series just got a lot better!
Honestly, my first thought was Airachnid. Especially how they are incorporating so much Aligned now.
Re: IDW Transformers: Sins of the Wreckers #1 Full Preview (1748120)
Posted by ScottyP on December 15th, 2015 @ 8:49am CST
Posted by ScottyP on December 15th, 2015 @ 8:49am CST
A google search for "Mesothulas" led to the Wikipedia article for "Mesothelae" which is a suborder of order Araneae, the largest order of Arachnids.
So yes, Tarantulas it is then, until it isn't. I look forward to it.
Also, that image of Springer is haunting.
So yes, Tarantulas it is then, until it isn't. I look forward to it.
Also, that image of Springer is haunting.
Re: IDW Transformers: Sins of the Wreckers #1 Full Preview (1748126)
Posted by Randomhero on December 15th, 2015 @ 9:00am CST
I wouldn't think Arachnid because well, girl and girls other than Arcee are new to cybertronians. Prowl wouldn't have history with one because they didn't know they ever naturally existed and if you're gonna do a 'male' version of Arachnid why bother when the male version when you have Tarantulus.
Posted by Randomhero on December 15th, 2015 @ 9:00am CST
Optimizzy wrote:Randomhero wrote:Wow never thought I'd see an IDW version of Tarantulus but I'm stoked now! This series just got a lot better!
Honestly, my first thought was Airachnid. Especially how they are incorporating so much Aligned now.
I wouldn't think Arachnid because well, girl and girls other than Arcee are new to cybertronians. Prowl wouldn't have history with one because they didn't know they ever naturally existed and if you're gonna do a 'male' version of Arachnid why bother when the male version when you have Tarantulus.
Re: IDW Transformers: Sins of the Wreckers #1 Full Preview (1748129)
Posted by Optimizzy on December 15th, 2015 @ 9:15am CST
Oh you're right. . Perhaps something changed him and he's Tarantulus now. Pretty cool. Yeah, I'd be stoked to see him in IDW.
Posted by Optimizzy on December 15th, 2015 @ 9:15am CST
Randomhero wrote:Optimizzy wrote:Randomhero wrote:Wow never thought I'd see an IDW version of Tarantulus but I'm stoked now! This series just got a lot better!
Honestly, my first thought was Airachnid. Especially how they are incorporating so much Aligned now.
I wouldn't think Arachnid because well, girl and girls other than Arcee are new to cybertronians. Prowl wouldn't have history with one because they didn't know they ever naturally existed and if you're gonna do a 'male' version of Arachnid why bother when the male version when you have Tarantulus.
Oh you're right. . Perhaps something changed him and he's Tarantulus now. Pretty cool. Yeah, I'd be stoked to see him in IDW.
Re: IDW Transformers: Sins of the Wreckers #1 Full Preview (1748134)
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on December 15th, 2015 @ 9:34am CST
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on December 15th, 2015 @ 9:34am CST
You know the best thing about if it IS Tarantulus?
New toy, Baby!
New toy, Baby!
Re: IDW Transformers: Sins of the Wreckers #1 Full Preview (1748135)
Posted by Randomhero on December 15th, 2015 @ 9:56am CST
The laugh is the give away. I don't think he's the true mastermind though, just part of it.
Posted by Randomhero on December 15th, 2015 @ 9:56am CST
Nemesis Maximo wrote:You know the best thing about if it IS Tarantulus?
New toy, Baby!
The laugh is the give away. I don't think he's the true mastermind though, just part of it.
Re: IDW Transformers: Sins of the Wreckers #1 Full Preview (1748150)
Posted by Autobot N on December 15th, 2015 @ 11:40am CST
There is this one...
Posted by Autobot N on December 15th, 2015 @ 11:40am CST
Nemesis Maximo wrote:You know the best thing about if it IS Tarantulus?
New toy, Baby!
There is this one...
Re: IDW Transformers: Sins of the Wreckers #1 Full Preview (1748154)
Posted by Optimizzy on December 15th, 2015 @ 12:04pm CST
Yeah but no.
Posted by Optimizzy on December 15th, 2015 @ 12:04pm CST
Decepticon Sunstorm wrote:Nemesis Maximo wrote:You know the best thing about if it IS Tarantulus?
New toy, Baby!
There is this one...
Yeah but no.
Re: IDW Transformers: Sins of the Wreckers #1 Full Preview (1748162)
Posted by Deadput on December 15th, 2015 @ 1:12pm CST
You think the guy warrants a new toy?
Why do you think the club is making him and not Hasbro?
Posted by Deadput on December 15th, 2015 @ 1:12pm CST
Optimizzy wrote:
Yeah but no.
You think the guy warrants a new toy?
Why do you think the club is making him and not Hasbro?
Re: IDW Transformers: Sins of the Wreckers #1 Full Preview (1748164)
Posted by Optimizzy on December 15th, 2015 @ 1:15pm CST
No I just mean I don't think the botcon exclusive is good enough.
Posted by Optimizzy on December 15th, 2015 @ 1:15pm CST
mirageandjazz1197 wrote:Optimizzy wrote:
Yeah but no.
You think the guy warrants a new toy?
Why do you think the club is making him and not Hasbro?
No I just mean I don't think the botcon exclusive is good enough.
Re: IDW Transformers: Sins of the Wreckers #1 Full Preview (1748179)
Posted by Randomhero on December 15th, 2015 @ 2:11pm CST
The original Transmetal one still is the best. Only thing it's missing is wrists. Almost everything Transmetal and after holds up.
Posted by Randomhero on December 15th, 2015 @ 2:11pm CST
Optimizzy wrote:mirageandjazz1197 wrote:Optimizzy wrote:
Yeah but no.
You think the guy warrants a new toy?
Why do you think the club is making him and not Hasbro?
No I just mean I don't think the botcon exclusive is good enough.
The original Transmetal one still is the best. Only thing it's missing is wrists. Almost everything Transmetal and after holds up.
Re: IDW Transformers: Sins of the Wreckers #1 Full Preview (1748184)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on December 15th, 2015 @ 3:26pm CST
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on December 15th, 2015 @ 3:26pm CST
Looking forward to the read. At least we are now getting into the badguys. And ole Tarantulas showing up here? Interesting theory....
Re: IDW Transformers: Sins of the Wreckers #1 Full Preview (1748190)
Posted by Randomhero on December 15th, 2015 @ 3:44pm CST
Posted by Randomhero on December 15th, 2015 @ 3:44pm CST
I'm still conflicted with Springer's coma and recovery. He had his face ripped off and went into a coma for over 4 years and yet we've seen Rung, Wheeljack, Soundwave, and the Constructicons have their head blown up and recover just fine. Rung I'm willing to let slide because he's something special and we know there's something about him we don't know but Wheeljack and Soundwave had there's heads shot off. Springer? Face torn off and coma. It's odd. But so is his recovery. Kup just told him to get up. I wasn't very convinced by the end of the issue. My first reaction was "that's not Springer". Apparently it is but we now know from this preview he is not okay at all. I hope to see more to this and I'm sure we will.
Re: IDW Transformers: Sins of the Wreckers #1 Full Preview (1748195)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on December 15th, 2015 @ 4:03pm CST
This is kind of confusing to me too. Unless he did have more damage done than we knew about, He should not have taken this long. Or maybe the Wreckers did not have the same quality equipment Wheeljack, soundwave and Rung had. Especially since it was the face and not the whole head as you said. I liked how Springer was jolted up by Kup calling out for him to come, and it was dramatic, not necessarily sensible. But I think that image of Springer all beat to crap was from Kups point of view (seeing as how he is holding his head in the next frame), but him still not being up to par is definitely something to note as this goes on
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on December 15th, 2015 @ 4:03pm CST
Randomhero wrote:I'm still conflicted with Springer's coma and recovery. He had his face ripped off and went into a coma for over 4 years and yet we've seen Rung, Wheeljack, Soundwave, and the Constructicons have their head blown up and recover just fine. Rung I'm willing to let slide because he's something special and we know there's something about him we don't know but Wheeljack and Soundwave had there's heads shot off. Springer? Face torn off and coma. It's odd. But so is his recovery. Kup just told him to get up. I wasn't very convinced by the end of the issue. My first reaction was "that's not Springer". Apparently it is but we now know from this preview he is not okay at all. I hope to see more to this and I'm sure we will.
This is kind of confusing to me too. Unless he did have more damage done than we knew about, He should not have taken this long. Or maybe the Wreckers did not have the same quality equipment Wheeljack, soundwave and Rung had. Especially since it was the face and not the whole head as you said. I liked how Springer was jolted up by Kup calling out for him to come, and it was dramatic, not necessarily sensible. But I think that image of Springer all beat to crap was from Kups point of view (seeing as how he is holding his head in the next frame), but him still not being up to par is definitely something to note as this goes on
Re: IDW Transformers: Sins of the Wreckers #1 Full Preview (1748198)
Posted by Optimizzy on December 15th, 2015 @ 4:11pm CST
I kind of think it was just a missed opportunity to use Springer. But even in real life damage to one system can be different for each individual. I know someone who got a bullet to the head and not only survived but stayed conscience and drove to the hospital, whereas most of the time because of severe damage and even death. Maybe Springer got really messed up
Posted by Optimizzy on December 15th, 2015 @ 4:11pm CST
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Randomhero wrote:I'm still conflicted with Springer's coma and recovery. He had his face ripped off and went into a coma for over 4 years and yet we've seen Rung, Wheeljack, Soundwave, and the Constructicons have their head blown up and recover just fine. Rung I'm willing to let slide because he's something special and we know there's something about him we don't know but Wheeljack and Soundwave had there's heads shot off. Springer? Face torn off and coma. It's odd. But so is his recovery. Kup just told him to get up. I wasn't very convinced by the end of the issue. My first reaction was "that's not Springer". Apparently it is but we now know from this preview he is not okay at all. I hope to see more to this and I'm sure we will.
This is kind of confusing to me too. Unless he did have more damage done than we knew about, He should not have taken this long. Or maybe the Wreckers did not have the same quality equipment Wheeljack, soundwave and Rung had. Especially since it was the face and not the whole head as you said. I liked how Springer was jolted up by Kup calling out for him to come, and it was dramatic, not necessarily sensible. But I think that image of Springer all beat to crap was from Kups point of view (seeing as how he is holding his head in the next frame), but him still not being up to par is definitely something to note as this goes on
I kind of think it was just a missed opportunity to use Springer. But even in real life damage to one system can be different for each individual. I know someone who got a bullet to the head and not only survived but stayed conscience and drove to the hospital, whereas most of the time because of severe damage and even death. Maybe Springer got really messed up
Re: IDW Transformers: Sins of the Wreckers #1 Full Preview (1748199)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on December 15th, 2015 @ 4:17pm CST
This is true, especially since he was knocked unconscious earlier in LTotW and then experimented upon, so maybe that injury was a bad thing on top of other bad things
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on December 15th, 2015 @ 4:17pm CST
Optimizzy wrote:D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Randomhero wrote:I'm still conflicted with Springer's coma and recovery. He had his face ripped off and went into a coma for over 4 years and yet we've seen Rung, Wheeljack, Soundwave, and the Constructicons have their head blown up and recover just fine. Rung I'm willing to let slide because he's something special and we know there's something about him we don't know but Wheeljack and Soundwave had there's heads shot off. Springer? Face torn off and coma. It's odd. But so is his recovery. Kup just told him to get up. I wasn't very convinced by the end of the issue. My first reaction was "that's not Springer". Apparently it is but we now know from this preview he is not okay at all. I hope to see more to this and I'm sure we will.
This is kind of confusing to me too. Unless he did have more damage done than we knew about, He should not have taken this long. Or maybe the Wreckers did not have the same quality equipment Wheeljack, soundwave and Rung had. Especially since it was the face and not the whole head as you said. I liked how Springer was jolted up by Kup calling out for him to come, and it was dramatic, not necessarily sensible. But I think that image of Springer all beat to crap was from Kups point of view (seeing as how he is holding his head in the next frame), but him still not being up to par is definitely something to note as this goes on
I kind of think it was just a missed opportunity to use Springer. But even in real life damage to one system can be different for each individual. I know someone who got a bullet to the head and not only survived but stayed conscience and drove to the hospital, whereas most of the time because of severe damage and even death. Maybe Springer got really messed up
This is true, especially since he was knocked unconscious earlier in LTotW and then experimented upon, so maybe that injury was a bad thing on top of other bad things
Re: IDW Transformers: Sins of the Wreckers #1 Full Preview (1748246)
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on December 15th, 2015 @ 11:46pm CST
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on December 15th, 2015 @ 11:46pm CST
Here's my theory on Springer's sudden recovery: as we know, Kup is the one who "ordered" him to snsp out of it. We also know that WAAAAAAY back, circa AHM, Prowl had Kup programmed with a new subroutine that can kill zombies, open portals to the Dead Universe or some such nonsense, and which gives Kup security access into Prowl's private quarters and files, judging by last issue. What's to say that's not also something to do with Springer waking?
