IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #55 ROM the Spaceknight Variant Cover by Brendan Cahill

Well, damn. Bets on who's kicking the buckets?

I'm more worried about that part about four words that gave the cons their name...I'm now worried that they are going to screw up megs

I swear Roberts, if you kill Tailgate....

You
Have
Been
Deceived


..that's four words, right?

Dr Va'al wrote:You
Have
Been
Deceived


..that's four words, right?

You Are Being Deceived.

MrBlack wrote:

Dr Va'al wrote:You
Have
Been
Deceived


..that's four words, right?

You Are Being Deceived.

Why have I also got the feeling that the hand of titan returns is intermingled with this.

MrBlack wrote:

Dr Va'al wrote:You
Have
Been
Deceived


..that's four words, right?

You Are Being Deceived.

You Will Have Been Deceiv... that's five.

Dr Va'al wrote:You
Have
Been
Deceived


..that's four words, right?

Probably the best 4 words. Also, Roberts said via Twitter that if 55 were the last issue, it would be a great series finale, so I feel the Knights and the map and the weird symbols will play out somehow with this.

And as for deaths: with Titans return being brought up in the description, I'm going to hazard some guesses:

die: Nightbeat, Brainstorm, Rodimus, Ten, Ravage

Well, here's how the Titan Masters come into play. This should be interesting.

Man, I'd pay Has/Tak real money for a figure of that Rodimus/Hot Rod design in plastic (although perhaps in slightly more red/less orange colors; e.g. something like his CW figure's colors though if I had to I could correct any miscues in coloration with paint myself). Preferably in Deluxe size or larger (Voyager~Leader would be ideal). I hope this is one of the designs appearing in the comics because Hasbro has plans on making it for real in the upcoming toyline somewhere, not just another throwaway design for a character that they have no plans to use.

"Setting the stage for Titans Return"


With that, we have official confirmation that MTMTE will be ruined, just like CW ruined Transformers. I'd really hoped this title would be spareds, but it looks like the fucking bastards at Hasbro need more toy commercials. I'm out, there is no point in even finishing the current arc, I'll just read the wiki in a couple months. Good luck to those of you sticking it out.

xyl360 wrote:Man, I'd pay Has/Tak real money for a figure of that Rodimus/Hot Rod design in plastic (although perhaps in slightly more red/less orange colors; e.g. something like his CW figure's colors though if I had to I could correct any miscues in coloration with paint myself). Preferably in Deluxe size or larger (Voyager~Leader would be ideal). I hope this is one of the designs appearing in the comics because Hasbro has plans on making it for real in the upcoming toyline somewhere, not just another throwaway design for a character that they have no plans to use.

Believe me, that has been my hope for a while now. unfortunately, he has had that design for over 4 years now and still nothing. It has been rumored that a Titans return Rodimus is being made, but it will be a deluxe and based on his G1 self, not this one unfortunately

I'm a HUGE fan of ROM.

I need this variant cover. I'm also highly anticipating the first issue of a new ROM comic in more than 30 years next month. Glad IDW was able to get a hold to the rights of the character.

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

xyl360 wrote:Man, I'd pay Has/Tak real money for a figure of that Rodimus/Hot Rod design in plastic (although perhaps in slightly more red/less orange colors; e.g. something like his CW figure's colors though if I had to I could correct any miscues in coloration with paint myself). Preferably in Deluxe size or larger (Voyager~Leader would be ideal). I hope this is one of the designs appearing in the comics because Hasbro has plans on making it for real in the upcoming toyline somewhere, not just another throwaway design for a character that they have no plans to use.

Believe me, that has been my hope for a while now. unfortunately, he has had that design for over 4 years now and still nothing. It has been rumored that a Titans return Rodimus is being made, but it will be a deluxe and based on his G1 self, not this one unfortunately

Damn, that's a real bummer, I absolutely fell in love with the design the moment I saw it (so much so that I actually clicked on the news thumbnail for it even though I almost never read or even view any of the comics related topics since I don't really read them, which I'm sure you can tell based on the fact that I had no idea this iteration of the character even existed until now even though it's apparently been around for 4 years). Any idea if any of the third parties are planning on doing one? Also, does anyone have any pics of his alt mode for this form handy by any chance? I'd love to see what that looks like.

Sorry everyone for dragging this a bit OT, but I'm just really stuck on this design from the comics (hopefully that's just relevant enough to consider these comments not too topic-derailing in nature). I'll leave it be after these questions so the thread may return to its regularly scheduled programming.

Awesome cover. It appears Rodimus survives. That's all that matters.

No matter what, I'm really looking forward to reading MTMTE for the next 6 months. (Last issue I read was #44.)

xyl360, just for you:




Rodimus: you seem to be a bit behind! Better catch up! 47 is one of my favorites

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Rodimus: you seem to be a bit behind! Better catch up! 47 is one of my favorites

I have a problem. I can't read just 1 issue at a time. It's not enough. So I read MTMTE by the volume. I'm all caught up, volume 8 ended with issue #44. Volume 9 hits next month. Volume 10 will have The Dying of The Light arc. So I won't find out what happened with Megatron and the DJD until volume 10 comes out, probably around October or November.

Thanks to his Twitter Page, Alex Milne has been nice enough to show off is cover for More Than Meets The Eye 55. This cover features Megatron in a dimly lit area powered only by the Necrobots flowers, and there he stands holding one, glowing brightly while he looks on solemnly and depressed.

Beware for after the black and white as well as the colored image, we will quote Milne on something he commented on in response to someone's question about the cover, so there is a potential spoiler.

Alex Milne wrote:The flowers don't just represent people he's directly killed remember.

And now that I've posted the story, I can say as a please:

Megatron doesn't kill anyone. Instead, by his lack of action, by his choosing to hide and command from a distance rather than face the threat, someone or some bots die, and he is responsible because he either gave them an order, like "go down that alleyway" and they died, or because he could have fought with them and prevented their deaths.

I love that some of the artists, such as Milne, have been drawing their own faction symbols instead of using the extremely obvious "official" symbols, which look very out-of-place when stamped on a drawing. Thank you for allowing the artists to do this or thank you to the artists for going this route instead of using the official symbols.

I love that picture of megatron, it's just so beautifully done.

ZeroWolf wrote:I love that picture of megatron, it's just so beautifully done.

It's heartbreaking. Look at those eyes...

Dr Va'al wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:I love that picture of megatron, it's just so beautifully done.

It's heartbreaking. Look at those eyes...

That is emotion, pure and simple. When I first saw it, I couldn't believe how well Milne had made Megatron look repentant and sad, tragic loss sad. It's incredible

Megatron needs to stop being a coward.

Ironhidensh wrote:Megatron needs to stop being a coward.

He needs more of the middle ground, for all those millions of years he fought and it achieved nothing but horror and bloodshed, goes to the other extreme and bots are still being hurt by his actions that were done ages and ages ago.

He needs courage to go forward, strength of spirit to fight for what he truly believes now, and wisdom to learn from his past and acknowledge his unsurmountable past. The other crucial thing he needs is humility that's been growing slowly.

Of course this is just what I think megs needs to continue, but no doubt Roberts has other intentions

I know the cover don't necessarily relate to the events of the story (though in this instance it most likely does) i'm willing to guess the flower's Velocity. Also on a separate note, aesthetically and historically, I would've found red poppies more poignant than blue lilies. However that might've been on the nose

SW's SilverHammer wrote:I know the cover don't necessarily relate to the events of the story (though in this instance it most likely does) i'm willing to guess the flower's Velocity. Also on a separate note, aesthetically and historically, I would've found red poppies more poignant than blue lilies. However that might've been on the nose

Red poppies can sod right off.

Dr Va'al wrote:

SW's SilverHammer wrote:I know the cover don't necessarily relate to the events of the story (though in this instance it most likely does) i'm willing to guess the flower's Velocity. Also on a separate note, aesthetically and historically, I would've found red poppies more poignant than blue lilies. However that might've been on the nose

Red poppies can sod right off.

what about white ones from the end of Gojira?

Apple iTunes has provided us with our second sneak peak of the week, this time in the form of More Than Meets The Eye 55! Check out the preview listed below, as it is revealed that some guys are sneaky, some guys may have guilty consciences, and some guys are just... interesting.

So now the whole story begins to fall into place.

The Galactic Counsel hates Megatron since he is now doing their job of protecting organics whereas he used to hate them. The council fears being replaced, so they rebuild Overlord to kill Megatron, teaming up with Getaway, who puts the mutiny into action. He removes Rodimus and company with the thought that the council only promised to kill Megatron and the others would live. So he's not the total slimeball he's come off as, but he still is slime. Then Tarn shows up somehow (Beginning to wonder about that, coincidence or not. Getaway should know the DJD wouldn't spare the Autobots, so if he summoned them to get Megatron off the ship by attacking Necroworld, did they somehow promise to spare the others as an empty promise?) but the council is ok with this since they want him dead too. But the council has no intent of letting the other Autobots live. Maybe they arranged for the DJD to attack and summon Megatron there then unleash Overlord, but weren't expecting Deathsaurus' group? I'm not sure about that.

And then, Megatron has Trailcutter's forcefields, enabling him to use the panic bubble to save himself. And of course, Deathsaurus is about to have a conscience attack courtesy of Rewind and Swerve, spurring him into Defending Megatron.

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:So now the whole story begins to fall into place.

The Galactic Counsel hates Megatron since he is now doing their job of protecting organics whereas he used to hate them. The council fears being replaced, so they rebuild Overlord to kill Megatron, teaming up with Getaway, who puts the mutiny into action. He removes Rodimus and company with the thought that the council only promised to kill Megatron and the others would live. So he's not the total slimeball he's come off as, but he still is slime. Then Tarn shows up somehow (Beginning to wonder about that, coincidence or not. Getaway should know the DJD wouldn't spare the Autobots) but the council is ok with this since they want him dead too. But the council has no intent of letting the other Autobots live. Maybe they arranged for the DJD to attack and summon Megatron there then unleash Overlord, but weren't expecting Deathsaurus' group? I'm not sure about that.

And then, Megatron has Trailcutter's forcefields, enabling him to use the panic bubble to save himself. And of course, Deathsaurus is about to have a conscience attack courtesy of Rewind and Swerve, spurring him into Defending Megatron.

Yeah. I read the three page preview too.

Sorry, just really thinking, and a bit confused

So now it makes sense! It feels a bit easier now knowing that Perceptor and everyone else thought it'd just be the Galactic Council sending agents to kill Megatron. The DJD just happened to be there too.
Now I can rest easy knowing Blaster and Perceptor aren't that dickish.

Kurona wrote:So now it makes sense! It feels a bit easier now knowing that Perceptor and everyone else thought it'd just be the Galactic Council sending agents to kill Megatron. The DJD just happened to be there too.
Now I can rest easy knowing Blaster and Perceptor aren't that dickish.

That is true.

But that is also what leads to my confusion. Why are the DJD there then, if they weren't Getaway's plan to begin with, especially since they provided the way to get Megatron off the ship? That whole part is not clicking for me yet

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

Kurona wrote:So now it makes sense! It feels a bit easier now knowing that Perceptor and everyone else thought it'd just be the Galactic Council sending agents to kill Megatron. The DJD just happened to be there too.
Now I can rest easy knowing Blaster and Perceptor aren't that dickish.

That is true.

But that is also what leads to my confusion. Why are the DJD there then, if they weren't Getaway's plan to begin with, especially since they provided the way to get Megatron off the ship? That whole part is not clicking for me yet

Yeah, that is the one little thing; especially since they had a base set up and everything. Mystery abounds...

Kurona wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

Kurona wrote:So now it makes sense! It feels a bit easier now knowing that Perceptor and everyone else thought it'd just be the Galactic Council sending agents to kill Megatron. The DJD just happened to be there too.
Now I can rest easy knowing Blaster and Perceptor aren't that dickish.

That is true.

But that is also what leads to my confusion. Why are the DJD there then, if they weren't Getaway's plan to begin with, especially since they provided the way to get Megatron off the ship? That whole part is not clicking for me yet

Yeah, that is the one little thing; especially since they had a base set up and everything. Mystery abounds...

Actually, a thought: They have been tracking down the ship right? They even said that they couldn't catch the Lost Light. So they attacked Necroworld by themselves, and when Rodimus and Megatron decided to investigate, Getaway used that as the opportunity to mutiny. The mutiny was set, they just needed the chance for the captains to leave, and they did, so the trap was sprung, without anyone realizing that the DJD were there.

That helps me make some sense of things

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

Kurona wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

Kurona wrote:So now it makes sense! It feels a bit easier now knowing that Perceptor and everyone else thought it'd just be the Galactic Council sending agents to kill Megatron. The DJD just happened to be there too.
Now I can rest easy knowing Blaster and Perceptor aren't that dickish.

That is true.

But that is also what leads to my confusion. Why are the DJD there then, if they weren't Getaway's plan to begin with, especially since they provided the way to get Megatron off the ship? That whole part is not clicking for me yet

Yeah, that is the one little thing; especially since they had a base set up and everything. Mystery abounds...

Actually, a thought: They have been tracking down the ship right? They even said that they couldn't catch the Lost Light. So they attacked Necroworld by themselves, and when Rodimus and Megatron decided to investigate, Getaway used that as the opportunity to mutiny. The mutiny was set, they just needed the chance for the captains to leave, and they did, so the trap was sprung, without anyone realizing that the DJD were there.

That helps me make some sense of things

Yeah; that, and reading on TFWiki reminds me that Tarn broadcast the signal as a lure. And maybe there wasn't an arranged place for Getaway to drop them off, it just happened to be the Necroplanet - and that's why it took so long for Overlord to get there!

Kurona wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

Kurona wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

Kurona wrote:So now it makes sense! It feels a bit easier now knowing that Perceptor and everyone else thought it'd just be the Galactic Council sending agents to kill Megatron. The DJD just happened to be there too.
Now I can rest easy knowing Blaster and Perceptor aren't that dickish.

That is true.

But that is also what leads to my confusion. Why are the DJD there then, if they weren't Getaway's plan to begin with, especially since they provided the way to get Megatron off the ship? That whole part is not clicking for me yet

Yeah, that is the one little thing; especially since they had a base set up and everything. Mystery abounds...

Actually, a thought: They have been tracking down the ship right? They even said that they couldn't catch the Lost Light. So they attacked Necroworld by themselves, and when Rodimus and Megatron decided to investigate, Getaway used that as the opportunity to mutiny. The mutiny was set, they just needed the chance for the captains to leave, and they did, so the trap was sprung, without anyone realizing that the DJD were there.

That helps me make some sense of things

Yeah; that, and reading on TFWiki reminds me that Tarn broadcast the signal as a lure. And maybe there wasn't an arranged place for Getaway to drop them off, it just happened to be the Necroplanet - and that's why it took so long for Overlord to get there!

Problem solved! Yay us!

Now, since Getaway did not want any Autobots to die, I wonder what he will think when he learns Skids died...

My guess would be that Overlord was the one who killed the Necrobot and set up the distress call to lure the Autobots to him. It makes the original plan fit together: The Galactic Council agrees to take care of Megatron; they send their agent, Overlord, to send a distress signal that they know the Lost Light will respond to; the Necrobot modifies the distress signal to warn them away (which doesn't work); the crew makes sure that Megatron and his supporters are the ones to go on the mission; Overlord kills Megatron. There was no reason for the DJD to kill the Necrobot because he was a pre-war neutral (which is why they did not bother him when they first found him). The method of the Necrobot's death also points to Overlord, him being a sadist and all.

As to why the DJD showed up, that is a mystery. The Galactic Council certainly isn't happy about it, and neither is Getaway if his concern for the rest of the crew is sincere.

Off-hand, I wonder if Getaway knew that the Galactic Council would send Overlord. I would guess the answer is "no" if he expected the rest of the crew to survive the encounter.

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

Kurona wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

Kurona wrote:So now it makes sense! It feels a bit easier now knowing that Perceptor and everyone else thought it'd just be the Galactic Council sending agents to kill Megatron. The DJD just happened to be there too.
Now I can rest easy knowing Blaster and Perceptor aren't that dickish.

That is true.

But that is also what leads to my confusion. Why are the DJD there then, if they weren't Getaway's plan to begin with, especially since they provided the way to get Megatron off the ship? That whole part is not clicking for me yet

Yeah, that is the one little thing; especially since they had a base set up and everything. Mystery abounds...

Actually, a thought: They have been tracking down the ship right? They even said that they couldn't catch the Lost Light. So they attacked Necroworld by themselves, and when Rodimus and Megatron decided to investigate, Getaway used that as the opportunity to mutiny. The mutiny was set, they just needed the chance for the captains to leave, and they did, so the trap was sprung, without anyone realizing that the DJD were there.

That helps me make some sense of things

I like this better than my theory.

EDIT: What kept hanging me up was the fact that the crew was stranded after the Rodpod was destroyed. I forgot that they would have been stranded anyway because the Rodpod only had the juice for one jump and couldn't jump back. Getaway likely wasn't aware that Team Rodimus had been attacked, because his plan was just to strand the ship wherever the group went to so that the Galactic Council could move in after.

MrBlack wrote:My guess would be that Overlord was the one who killed the Necrobot and set up the distress call to lure the Autobots to him. It makes the original plan fit together: The Galactic Council agrees to take care of Megatron; they send their agent, Overlord, to send a distress signal that they know the Lost Light will respond to; the Necrobot modifies the distress signal to warn them away (which doesn't work); the crew makes sure that Megatron and his supporters are the ones to go on the mission; Overlord kills Megatron. There was no reason for the DJD to kill the Necrobot because he was a pre-war neutral (which is why they did not bother him when they first found him). The method of the Necrobot's death also points to Overlord, him being a sadist and all.

As to why the DJD showed up, that is a mystery. The Galactic Council certainly isn't happy about it, and neither is Getaway if his concern for the rest of the crew is sincere.

Off-hand, I wonder if Getaway knew that the Galactic Council would send Overlord. I would guess the answer is "no" if he expected the rest of the crew to survive the encounter.

Only problem with that theory is that it was stated the DJD attacked the Necrobot and sent out the fake distress signal to lure the Lost Lighters.

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Sorry, just really thinking, and a bit confused

Just giving ya guff.

Honestly don't know how I feel about this reveal. It makes sense but it honestly feels a little anticlimactic.

Honestly getting really tired of the twists and "shocking reveals"

Kurona wrote:

MrBlack wrote:My guess would be that Overlord was the one who killed the Necrobot and set up the distress call to lure the Autobots to him. It makes the original plan fit together: The Galactic Council agrees to take care of Megatron; they send their agent, Overlord, to send a distress signal that they know the Lost Light will respond to; the Necrobot modifies the distress signal to warn them away (which doesn't work); the crew makes sure that Megatron and his supporters are the ones to go on the mission; Overlord kills Megatron. There was no reason for the DJD to kill the Necrobot because he was a pre-war neutral (which is why they did not bother him when they first found him). The method of the Necrobot's death also points to Overlord, him being a sadist and all.

As to why the DJD showed up, that is a mystery. The Galactic Council certainly isn't happy about it, and neither is Getaway if his concern for the rest of the crew is sincere.

Off-hand, I wonder if Getaway knew that the Galactic Council would send Overlord. I would guess the answer is "no" if he expected the rest of the crew to survive the encounter.

Only problem with that theory is that it was stated the DJD attacked the Necrobot and sent out the fake distress signal to lure the Lost Lighters.

Well, there is that conjecture on the wiki, but I'm not sure it has been made clear in the book itself who attacked the Necrobot. I am inclined to think it was the DJD at this point, but the full circumstances have not been made clear yet.

All in all the arc is sounding like a "series of unfortunate events" storyline to me: someone wants to mutiny to kill one guy and just remove the others, which includes his former partner; He doesn't know a group of killers is the reason the mutiny succeeded; he doesn't know the person sent to kill the one will kill them all; everyone is there, all the evil is there, and meanwhile the organics are planning to use something that reminds me of that "geo-bomb" thing from MTMTE 46 that Fort Max mentioned to maybe destroy the entire planet, which I think they will try, but somehow Nightbeat and Rung save everyone. Ba-doom.

MrBlack wrote:

Kurona wrote:

MrBlack wrote:My guess would be that Overlord was the one who killed the Necrobot and set up the distress call to lure the Autobots to him. It makes the original plan fit together: The Galactic Council agrees to take care of Megatron; they send their agent, Overlord, to send a distress signal that they know the Lost Light will respond to; the Necrobot modifies the distress signal to warn them away (which doesn't work); the crew makes sure that Megatron and his supporters are the ones to go on the mission; Overlord kills Megatron. There was no reason for the DJD to kill the Necrobot because he was a pre-war neutral (which is why they did not bother him when they first found him). The method of the Necrobot's death also points to Overlord, him being a sadist and all.

As to why the DJD showed up, that is a mystery. The Galactic Council certainly isn't happy about it, and neither is Getaway if his concern for the rest of the crew is sincere.

Off-hand, I wonder if Getaway knew that the Galactic Council would send Overlord. I would guess the answer is "no" if he expected the rest of the crew to survive the encounter.

Only problem with that theory is that it was stated the DJD attacked the Necrobot and sent out the fake distress signal to lure the Lost Lighters.

Well, there is that conjecture on the wiki, but I'm not sure it has been made clear in the book itself who attacked the Necrobot. I am inclined to think it was the DJD at this point, but the full circumstances have not been made clear yet.

But consider this: If it was Overlord who set the trap, wouldn't he have arrived sooner or actually been at the fortress to greet Megatron and kill him there?

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

MrBlack wrote:

Kurona wrote:

MrBlack wrote:My guess would be that Overlord was the one who killed the Necrobot and set up the distress call to lure the Autobots to him. It makes the original plan fit together: The Galactic Council agrees to take care of Megatron; they send their agent, Overlord, to send a distress signal that they know the Lost Light will respond to; the Necrobot modifies the distress signal to warn them away (which doesn't work); the crew makes sure that Megatron and his supporters are the ones to go on the mission; Overlord kills Megatron. There was no reason for the DJD to kill the Necrobot because he was a pre-war neutral (which is why they did not bother him when they first found him). The method of the Necrobot's death also points to Overlord, him being a sadist and all.

As to why the DJD showed up, that is a mystery. The Galactic Council certainly isn't happy about it, and neither is Getaway if his concern for the rest of the crew is sincere.

Off-hand, I wonder if Getaway knew that the Galactic Council would send Overlord. I would guess the answer is "no" if he expected the rest of the crew to survive the encounter.

Only problem with that theory is that it was stated the DJD attacked the Necrobot and sent out the fake distress signal to lure the Lost Lighters.

Well, there is that conjecture on the wiki, but I'm not sure it has been made clear in the book itself who attacked the Necrobot. I am inclined to think it was the DJD at this point, but the full circumstances have not been made clear yet.

But consider this: If it was Overlord who set the trap, wouldn't he have arrived sooner or actually been at the fortress to greet Megatron and kill him there?

Read my post.

I am just pointing out that the solution isn't quite clear yet, as I do not recall Tarn or anyone else taking responsibility for killing the Necrobot or sending the distress signal in the comic, even though I think that theory is likely correct.

MrBlack wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

MrBlack wrote:

Kurona wrote:Only problem with that theory is that it was stated the DJD attacked the Necrobot and sent out the fake distress signal to lure the Lost Lighters.

Well, there is that conjecture on the wiki, but I'm not sure it has been made clear in the book itself who attacked the Necrobot. I am inclined to think it was the DJD at this point, but the full circumstances have not been made clear yet.

But consider this: If it was Overlord who set the trap, wouldn't he have arrived sooner or actually been at the fortress to greet Megatron and kill him there?

Read my post.

I am just pointing out that the solution isn't quite clear yet, as I do not recall Tarn or anyone else taking responsibility for killing the Necrobot or sending the distress signal in the comic, even though I think that theory is likely correct.

I read your post, I was just agreeing with you and providing something else I had thought of while reading through other posts.

And I'm looking back through, and I'm pretty sure you're right that no one has taken responsibility for killing Necrobot. We can only assume that this point.

But also using an assumption: what if the Lost Light actually comes back for these guys, if Getaway is anyway alarmed that the council intends to kill the other Autobots, maybe he will come back, and something else in 3 weeks time comic time wise is the reason they are radio silent.

On another topic: What's in the box???

MrBlack wrote:On another topic: What's in the box???

I'm thinking the geo-bomb Fort Max mentioned in 46. He said the counsel made a bomb from Killmaster's design that could destroy planets, and it is small "size of an eyeball" said Crankcase. Maybe they intend to use it to kill hundreds of cons, Megatron, and any other robot that so happens to be there. It all comes down as a win for the counsel.

MrBlack wrote:On another topic: What's in the box???

Step one: cut a hole in the box.