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IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #51 Clean Cover Art by Andrew Griffith / Joana Lafuente

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Fellow Seibertron.com staff member D-Maximus_Primal spotted a new addition from IDW artist Andrew Griffith on his Twitter account, after a magnificent job on this week's The Transformers #50 (read our review here!), showing off the line art and clean cover with Joana Lafuente's colours for the upcoming issue #51 for More Than Meets the Eye - and DJD's Tarn in all his evil glory. Check it out below!

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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #51 Clean Cover Art by Andrew Griffith / Joana Lafuente (1769510)
Posted by Whifflefire on February 25th, 2016 @ 3:58am CST
Nice! Can't wait for the issues to get here.
Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #51 Clean Cover Art by Andrew Griffith / Joana Lafuente (1769515)
Posted by BumbleDouche on February 25th, 2016 @ 5:57am CST
"Well, that's. Just. Beyoootiful."
Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #51 Clean Cover Art by Andrew Griffith / Joana Lafuente (1769562)
Posted by Deadput on February 25th, 2016 @ 10:37am CST
When I look at his left Eye he looks mad yet when I look into his right he looks...sad?
Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #51 Clean Cover Art by Andrew Griffith / Joana Lafuente (1769582)
Posted by Alpha Dominus on February 25th, 2016 @ 12:34pm CST
Seeing Tarn like that on the cover doesn't make me feel too optimistic about Megatrons fate. I really hope that's a false assumption.
Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #51 Clean Cover Art by Andrew Griffith / Joana Lafuente (1769611)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on February 25th, 2016 @ 3:03pm CST
I love the artwork for these story arcs. Magnificent stuff :MAXIMAL:
Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #51 Clean Cover Art by Andrew Griffith / Joana Lafuente (1769658)
Posted by ctrlFrequency on February 25th, 2016 @ 6:15pm CST
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:I love the artwork for these story arcs. Magnificent stuff :MAXIMAL:

Seconds the filthy Autobot.

Love the colors on that one, I swear I just spent 15 minutes just staring.... :-)
Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #51 Clean Cover Art by Andrew Griffith / Joana Lafuente (1769662)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on February 25th, 2016 @ 6:25pm CST
ctrlFrequency wrote:
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:I love the artwork for these story arcs. Magnificent stuff :MAXIMAL:

Seconds the filthy Autobot.

Love the colors on that one, I swear I just spent 15 minutes just staring.... :-)

Hehmm: :MAXIMAL:

I cannot tell you how much time I have spent staring at some of the covers. I forget how many he actually said, but Milne said there were I think 35 faces on issue 51's main cover, not to mention all the ones on issue 50's.

Just wow.

And, hehmm: :MAXIMAL: :MAXIMAL:
Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #51 Clean Cover Art by Andrew Griffith / Joana Lafuente (1769665)
Posted by ctrlFrequency on February 25th, 2016 @ 6:30pm CST
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:
ctrlFrequency wrote:
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:I love the artwork for these story arcs. Magnificent stuff :MAXIMAL:

Seconds the filthy Autobot.

Love the colors on that one, I swear I just spent 15 minutes just staring.... :-)

Hehmm: :MAXIMAL:

I cannot tell you how much time I have spent staring at some of the covers. I forget how many he actually said, but Milne said there were I think 35 faces on issue 51's main cover, not to mention all the ones on issue 50's.

Just wow.

And, hehmm: :MAXIMAL: :MAXIMAL:


Still a filthy Autobot regardless. It's your nick name
Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #51 Clean Cover Art by Andrew Griffith / Joana Lafuente (1769670)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on February 25th, 2016 @ 6:44pm CST
ctrlFrequency wrote:
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:
ctrlFrequency wrote:
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:I love the artwork for these story arcs. Magnificent stuff :MAXIMAL:

Seconds the filthy Autobot.

Love the colors on that one, I swear I just spent 15 minutes just staring.... :-)

Hehmm: :MAXIMAL:

I cannot tell you how much time I have spent staring at some of the covers. I forget how many he actually said, but Milne said there were I think 35 faces on issue 51's main cover, not to mention all the ones on issue 50's.

Just wow.

And, hehmm: :MAXIMAL: :MAXIMAL:


Still a filthy Autobot regardless. It's your nick name

I'm trying to decide whether or not I'm flattered ;)

So let me guess: You want Megatron to suffer at the hands of Tarn? Or more importantly: who do you think Tarn really is? Any theories? :MAXIMAL:
Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #51 Clean Cover Art by Andrew Griffith / Joana Lafuente (1769676)
Posted by ctrlFrequency on February 25th, 2016 @ 6:51pm CST
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:
ctrlFrequency wrote:
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:
ctrlFrequency wrote:
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:I love the artwork for these story arcs. Magnificent stuff :MAXIMAL:

Seconds the filthy Autobot.

Love the colors on that one, I swear I just spent 15 minutes just staring.... :-)

Hehmm: :MAXIMAL:

I cannot tell you how much time I have spent staring at some of the covers. I forget how many he actually said, but Milne said there were I think 35 faces on issue 51's main cover, not to mention all the ones on issue 50's.

Just wow.

And, hehmm: :MAXIMAL: :MAXIMAL:


Still a filthy Autobot regardless. It's your nick name

I'm trying to decide whether or not I'm flattered ;)

So let me guess: You want Megatron to suffer at the hands of Tarn? Or more importantly: who do you think Tarn really is? Any theories? :MAXIMAL:


You should be flattered. If I didn't like you, the spam filter would censor the nick name I gave you. :twisted:

As for Megatron....

Although I am not entirely thrilled with him becoming an Autobot, I find the story intriguing. I also love Megs abd can't being myself to want him suffering. So no. I do not want to see Tarn torture him.

And I'm still in the Tarn is Roller camp (unless something to the contrary has come to light that I missed)
Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #51 Clean Cover Art by Andrew Griffith / Joana Lafuente (1769688)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on February 25th, 2016 @ 7:25pm CST
ctrlFrequency wrote:
You should be flattered. If I didn't like you, the spam filter would censor the nick name I gave you. :twisted:

As for Megatron....

Although I am not entirely thrilled with him becoming an Autobot, I find the story intriguing. I also love Megs abd can't being myself to want him suffering. So no. I do not want to see Tarn torture him.

And I'm still in the Tarn is Roller camp (unless something to the contrary has come to light that I missed)

I'm glad that at least you do not want Megs to suffer. I have loved his role as an Autobot and his path he took.

I really think Tarn is Dominus Ambus. Now, I will most likely be wrong about that and Roller will be Tarn, but to me Roller just makes too much sense. Like Roberts has been blatantly lousy with hints of that being so, and he is never that obvious, so I just don't feel completely confident it it.

Now, Dominus has been missing for some time. Necrobot doesn't even know what happened to him. As the brother to Minimus, a load bearer, maybe Dominus is a load bearer too, and that is how he knew about the teleport hand on the Magnus armor, enabling him to cut it off and then kill his brother. As Rewinds ex-CE, he would leave Rewind alive to record everything and let him live. He is a scholar, and Tarn has proven to be very educated and at times scholarly. As Tarn found out that Domey was Rewind's new CE, he would either make Domey forget, or kill him in front of Rewind for personal reasons, him being an ex CE after all (though different from most ex's).

That's what I've got. that and Roller is too Roberts obvious for me. :MAXIMAL:
Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #51 Clean Cover Art by Andrew Griffith / Joana Lafuente (1769693)
Posted by ctrlFrequency on February 25th, 2016 @ 7:34pm CST
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:
ctrlFrequency wrote:
You should be flattered. If I didn't like you, the spam filter would censor the nick name I gave you. :twisted:

As for Megatron....

Although I am not entirely thrilled with him becoming an Autobot, I find the story intriguing. I also love Megs abd can't being myself to want him suffering. So no. I do not want to see Tarn torture him.

And I'm still in the Tarn is Roller camp (unless something to the contrary has come to light that I missed)

I'm glad that at least you do not want Megs to suffer. I have loved his role as an Autobot and his path he took.

I really think Tarn is Dominus Ambus. Now, I will most likely be wrong about that and Roller will be Tarn, but to me Roller just makes too much sense. Like Roberts has been blatantly lousy with hints of that being so, and he is never that obvious, so I just don't feel completely confident it it.

Now, Dominus has been missing for some time. Necrobot doesn't even know what happened to him. As the brother to Minimus, a load bearer, maybe Dominus is a load bearer too, and that is how he knew about the teleport hand on the Magnus armor, enabling him to cut it off and then kill his brother. As Rewinds ex-CE, he would leave Rewind alive to record everything and let him live. He is a scholar, and Tarn has proven to be very educated and at times scholarly. As Tarn found out that Domey was Rewind's new CE, he would either make Domey forget, or kill him in front of Rewind for personal reasons, him being an ex CE after all (though different from most ex's).

That's what I've got. that and Roller is too Roberts obvious for me. :MAXIMAL:


Darn it meant profanity filter....

I do agree there, Roller is way obvious but then again,maybe that's the subterfuge... we all think it's too obvious and thus look elsewhere and in the end it is.

But Ambush makes a lot of sense too, really does.
Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #51 Clean Cover Art by Andrew Griffith / Joana Lafuente (1769698)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on February 25th, 2016 @ 7:42pm CST
This whole "Tarn" thing has so many ways it can swing it is unreal, let alone how Roberts is viewing all this. Looking at us like "you guys have it right, now figure out which and why I would actually allow that to happen." It has been literal toying with us all season 2. :MAXIMAL:
Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #51 Clean Cover Art by Andrew Griffith / Joana Lafuente (1769699)
Posted by Grimlarz on February 25th, 2016 @ 7:51pm CST
I'm sure it's been said a thousand times... But damn... I really want a Tarn figure. Like Really Really bad. :CON:
Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #51 Clean Cover Art by Andrew Griffith / Joana Lafuente (1769702)
Posted by ctrlFrequency on February 25th, 2016 @ 8:03pm CST
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:This whole "Tarn" thing has so many ways it can swing it is unreal, let alone how Roberts is viewing all this. Looking at us like "you guys have it right, now figure out which and why I would actually allow that to happen." It has been literal toying with us all season 2. :MAXIMAL:


Yeah... have to agree there.

I' unfortunately unable to witty any longer. My 3rd shift nightmare ended this past weekend... but now I can't get my sleep over to a day schedule so i'm soooo tired :-(
Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #51 Clean Cover Art by Andrew Griffith / Joana Lafuente (1769704)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on February 25th, 2016 @ 8:08pm CST
ctrlFrequency wrote:
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:This whole "Tarn" thing has so many ways it can swing it is unreal, let alone how Roberts is viewing all this. Looking at us like "you guys have it right, now figure out which and why I would actually allow that to happen." It has been literal toying with us all season 2. :MAXIMAL:


Yeah... have to agree there.

I' unfortunately unable to witty any longer. My 3rd shift nightmare ended this past weekend... but now I can't get my sleep over to a day schedule so i'm soooo tired :-(

:( All will be ok.

MTMTE will be out soon enough, so joy may be restored with the reading of a double issue though! :MAXIMAL:
Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #51 Clean Cover Art by Andrew Griffith / Joana Lafuente (1769748)
Posted by Grimlarz on February 25th, 2016 @ 10:47pm CST
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:
ctrlFrequency wrote:
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:
ctrlFrequency wrote:
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:I love the artwork for these story arcs. Magnificent stuff :MAXIMAL:

Seconds the filthy Autobot.

Love the colors on that one, I swear I just spent 15 minutes just staring.... :-)

Hehmm: :MAXIMAL:

I cannot tell you how much time I have spent staring at some of the covers. I forget how many he actually said, but Milne said there were I think 35 faces on issue 51's main cover, not to mention all the ones on issue 50's.

Just wow.

And, hehmm: :MAXIMAL: :MAXIMAL:


Still a filthy Autobot regardless. It's your nick name

I'm trying to decide whether or not I'm flattered ;)

So let me guess: You want Megatron to suffer at the hands of Tarn? Or more importantly: who do you think Tarn really is? Any theories? :MAXIMAL:



I lean either way. I think it's Roller. That's going to be some story to tell though. My guess is that Megatron recruited him when he was "lost" during the war. He felt betrayed by his friend Pax, continued his drug habits and found the same leader in Megatron that he once felt for Pax. Now that Megatron has defected to the autobots, Tarn is coming to collect him for answers or just outright destroy him.
Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #51 Clean Cover Art by Andrew Griffith / Joana Lafuente (1773873)
Posted by Va'al on March 19th, 2016 @ 12:16pm CDT
While there are no comics planned for the coming week, we do have an initial look at the second part of the Dying of the Light in More Than Meets the Eye #51 - courtesy as usual of IDW's Mariel Romero via iTunes. Check it out below, and come back for a full preview in a couple of weeks!

"If you want to break someone—mentally, physically, emotionally—wait until they're happy. Let them live and love and thrive. Once they recognize the value of a life well lived... THAT'S when you move in for the kill. Because you can't take anything from someone who has nothing to lose." --Tarn


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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #51 Clean Cover Art by Andrew Griffith / Joana Lafuente (1773901)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on March 19th, 2016 @ 2:19pm CDT
So we are setting up for a nighttime battle eh? cool. And somehow Ten is going to be a key part of what is about to come :MAXIMAL:
Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #51 Clean Cover Art by Andrew Griffith / Joana Lafuente (1773908)
Posted by Whifflefire on March 19th, 2016 @ 2:48pm CDT
I totally forgot about Velocity... :-P

Megs is definitely regretting a lot now. Wonder what his and Tarn's confrontation will be like.
Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #51 Clean Cover Art by Andrew Griffith / Joana Lafuente (1773923)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on March 19th, 2016 @ 3:35pm CDT
Whifflefire wrote:I totally forgot about Velocity... :-P

Megs is definitely regretting a lot now. Wonder what his and Tarn's confrontation will be like.

I'm thinking Megatron getting the scrap beat out of him. But he won't get killed. Tarn will beat him, leave him alive, and then try to kill everyone else before Megatron dies :MAXIMAL:
Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #51 Clean Cover Art by Andrew Griffith / Joana Lafuente (1773963)
Posted by Ballistic90 on March 19th, 2016 @ 4:52pm CDT
Eventually i will need to buy all of More Than Meets the Eye. It is consistently interesting.
Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #51 Clean Cover Art by Andrew Griffith / Joana Lafuente (1773977)
Posted by Quint on March 19th, 2016 @ 5:37pm CDT
Wait, wait, wait... they launch a devastating attack that knackers destroys their ship, severs limbs then... leave them alone holed up in a building for 8 hours...

Tarn obviously never watched the A Team then...
Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #51 Clean Cover Art by Andrew Griffith / Joana Lafuente (1773980)
Posted by Whifflefire on March 19th, 2016 @ 5:50pm CDT
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:
Whifflefire wrote:I totally forgot about Velocity... :-P

Megs is definitely regretting a lot now. Wonder what his and Tarn's confrontation will be like.

I'm thinking Megatron getting the scrap beat out of him. But he won't get killed. Tarn will beat him, leave him alive, and then try to kill everyone else before Megatron dies :MAXIMAL:


Same, but I was wondering more about what they'd say to each other. How might he react to Tarn still following Megatron's cause, but not Megatron himself? Would he try to convince the DJD to abandon the cause as well, or will they not care, and try to kill him anyway?
Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #51 Clean Cover Art by Andrew Griffith / Joana Lafuente (1774017)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on March 19th, 2016 @ 9:24pm CDT
Whifflefire wrote:
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:
Whifflefire wrote:I totally forgot about Velocity... :-P

Megs is definitely regretting a lot now. Wonder what his and Tarn's confrontation will be like.

I'm thinking Megatron getting the scrap beat out of him. But he won't get killed. Tarn will beat him, leave him alive, and then try to kill everyone else before Megatron dies :MAXIMAL:


Same, but I was wondering more about what they'd say to each other. How might he react to Tarn still following Megatron's cause, but not Megatron himself? Would he try to convince the DJD to abandon the cause as well, or will they not care, and try to kill him anyway?

I think Megatron will try to talk them down. He will try to use words somehow. But they won't be worth anything. :MAXIMAL:
Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #51 Clean Cover Art by Andrew Griffith / Joana Lafuente (1774019)
Posted by Randomhero on March 19th, 2016 @ 9:40pm CDT
Whifflefire wrote:
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:
Whifflefire wrote:I totally forgot about Velocity... :-P

Megs is definitely regretting a lot now. Wonder what his and Tarn's confrontation will be like.

I'm thinking Megatron getting the scrap beat out of him. But he won't get killed. Tarn will beat him, leave him alive, and then try to kill everyone else before Megatron dies :MAXIMAL:


Same, but I was wondering more about what they'd say to each other. How might he react to Tarn still following Megatron's cause, but not Megatron himself? Would he try to convince the DJD to abandon the cause as well, or will they not care, and try to kill him anyway?


He's going to order, talk, then beg them to stand down, someone is going to be executed and he is going to snap.
Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #51 Clean Cover Art by Andrew Griffith / Joana Lafuente (1774071)
Posted by BATTLEMASTER IIC on March 20th, 2016 @ 8:50am CDT
Doesn't Megatron still have some space bridge powers? Or were those disabled at the conclusion of Dark Cybertron with the Fool's Energon? I'm thinking they'll play a role in this confrontation, much like how Whirl lost part of his arm to the space bridge parts still inside Megatron during his brawl with him.
Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #51 Clean Cover Art by Andrew Griffith / Joana Lafuente (1774072)
Posted by Randomhero on March 20th, 2016 @ 9:06am CDT
BATTLEMASTER IIC wrote:Doesn't Megatron still have some space bridge powers? Or were those disabled at the conclusion of Dark Cybertron with the Fool's Energon? I'm thinking they'll play a role in this confrontation, much like how Whirl lost part of his arm to the space bridge parts still inside Megatron during his brawl with him.


I've said the same thing however he does mention the insides of his body is all twisted from shockwave back in Dark Cybertronian so it's probably not working right anymore.

there is still the fact that they are all standing in a giant quantum gateway hub but it is stated that all communications are being blocked so it probably impossible for them to use the gateway
Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #51 Clean Cover Art by Andrew Griffith / Joana Lafuente (1774354)
Posted by DarkEnergon on March 20th, 2016 @ 11:08pm CDT
Ok, really. Of all places to trap them?

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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #51 Clean Cover Art by Andrew Griffith / Joana Lafuente (1774362)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on March 21st, 2016 @ 1:17am CDT
Hold on, I just had a brainstorm(heuhuehue).

So in the beginning of last issue, they said they have just over 6 hours to live, but then in this issue there are 8 hours to sundown, when the DJD will come back and kill them all. So could that imply that it is not the DJD who are telling the Lost lighters to give their final goodbyes? Could this imply that there is a traitor in their midst? Someone who pulls the gun out and tells them all to give the final goodbyes, and then waits for the DJD to show up to actually kill them all? Like possibly Brainstorm actually still being a con agent, or Megatron turning, or someone else entirely?

Just a thought, as the references to time and the fact that any expectations will be broken as said by Roberts on twitter :MAXIMAL:
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Posted by MrBlack on March 21st, 2016 @ 9:13am CDT
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Hold on, I just had a brainstorm(heuhuehue).

So in the beginning of last issue, they said they have just over 6 hours to live, but then in this issue there are 8 hours to sundown, when the DJD will come back and kill them all. So could that imply that it is not the DJD who are telling the Lost lighters to give their final goodbyes? Could this imply that there is a traitor in their midst? Someone who pulls the gun out and tells them all to give the final goodbyes, and then waits for the DJD to show up to actually kill them all? Like possibly Brainstorm actually still being a con agent, or Megatron turning, or someone else entirely?

Just a thought, as the references to time and the fact that any expectations will be broken as said by Roberts on twitter :MAXIMAL:

My guess is that they spend two hours trying to figure out a plan and then give up and start saying their goodbyes.

I hope that Roberts will explicitly address the fact that Censere's fortress contains some of the most powerful teleport tech in the galaxy. It makes sense that the DJD could block them (we have seen over in the ongoing that both sides have the tech to block orbital jump technology planet wide), but I would like to see it addressed given that it is central to the Necrobot's story, and an easy way out for the crew.

Or maybe this is how they wrap things up. Five issues in and Nightbeat remembers they can teleport.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7kpuyPBr6U
Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #51 Clean Cover Art by Andrew Griffith / Joana Lafuente (1774683)
Posted by Ironhidensh on March 21st, 2016 @ 10:57pm CDT
I think somebody will donate pure energon, and Megatron will storm out, and remind everybody just exactly why he was ruler supreme of the deceptions for millions of years.
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Posted by Randomhero on March 22nd, 2016 @ 7:36am CDT
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Hold on, I just had a brainstorm(heuhuehue).

So in the beginning of last issue, they said they have just over 6 hours to live, but then in this issue there are 8 hours to sundown, when the DJD will come back and kill them all. So could that imply that it is not the DJD who are telling the Lost lighters to give their final goodbyes? Could this imply that there is a traitor in their midst? Someone who pulls the gun out and tells them all to give the final goodbyes, and then waits for the DJD to show up to actually kill them all? Like possibly Brainstorm actually still being a con agent, or Megatron turning, or someone else entirely?

Just a thought, as the references to time and the fact that any expectations will be broken as said by Roberts on twitter :MAXIMAL:



I still say it red alerts comment is a red herring. I believe it's Rodimus and Megatron giving them their final good byes if anyone can find their remains. I would believe that IF the DJD are telling to do it one of them would interrupt and say "haha! Trust me there won't be any bodies to find"

The brainstorm theory I don't believe. His story has been told, he joined up just to get their tech, the alternate brainstorm told them not to harm anyone if he hands over overlord and Tatn admits he was going to not harm them but things got out of hand becaus they saw drift.
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Posted by Randomhero on March 22nd, 2016 @ 8:03am CDT
MrBlack wrote:
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Hold on, I just had a brainstorm(heuhuehue).

So in the beginning of last issue, they said they have just over 6 hours to live, but then in this issue there are 8 hours to sundown, when the DJD will come back and kill them all. So could that imply that it is not the DJD who are telling the Lost lighters to give their final goodbyes? Could this imply that there is a traitor in their midst? Someone who pulls the gun out and tells them all to give the final goodbyes, and then waits for the DJD to show up to actually kill them all? Like possibly Brainstorm actually still being a con agent, or Megatron turning, or someone else entirely?

Just a thought, as the references to time and the fact that any expectations will be broken as said by Roberts on twitter :MAXIMAL:

My guess is that they spend two hours trying to figure out a plan and then give up and start saying their goodbyes.

I hope that Roberts will explicitly address the fact that Censere's fortress contains some of the most powerful teleport tech in the galaxy. It makes sense that the DJD could block them (we have seen over in the ongoing that both sides have the tech to block orbital jump technology planet wide), but I would like to see it addressed given that it is central to the Necrobot's story, and an easy way out for the crew.

Or maybe this is how they wrap things up. Five issues in and Nightbeat remembers they can teleport.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7kpuyPBr6U


Im sure it will be addressed and I'd bet roberts has already gotten a few dozen tweets by people asking that
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Posted by Va'al on March 26th, 2016 @ 6:23am CDT
As Newsarama breaks the seal, we can finally share the full preview of next week's IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #51, in which the Light keeps Dying, and dying and dying... or does it? Check it out below, and come back on Wednesday for the Seibertron.com review!

Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #51
James Roberts (w) • Alex Milne (a & c)
"If you want to break someone—mentally, physically, emotionally—wait until they're happy. Let them live and love and thrive. Once they recognize the value of a life well lived... THAT'S when you move in for the kill. Because you can't take anything from someone who has nothing to lose." --Tarn
FC • 32 pages • $3.99

Bullet points:
The hunt for MEGATRON continues!
The Decepticon Justice Division will stop at nothing to bring the former Decepticon leader down!


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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #51 Clean Cover Art by Andrew Griffith / Joana Lafuente (1775564)
Posted by Randomhero on March 26th, 2016 @ 8:23am CDT
Still leaning towards Tarn being Proteus.
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Posted by ricemazter on March 26th, 2016 @ 4:42pm CDT
Randomhero wrote:Still leaning towards Tarn being Proteus.


Wouldn't proteus have been executed by starscream with the rest of the senate?
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Posted by Randomhero on March 26th, 2016 @ 4:48pm CDT
ricemazter wrote:
Randomhero wrote:Still leaning towards Tarn being Proteus.


Wouldn't proteus have been executed by starscream with the rest of the senate?



Never saw him get shot. Only saw starscream pointing a gun at his head.
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Posted by LE0KING on March 26th, 2016 @ 5:53pm CDT
Randomhero wrote:Still leaning towards Tarn being Proteus.

I'm in the Roller camp. In the time travel arc we see Roller using performance enhancers just to keep up with the outliers. In the DJD arc we see Tarn almost overdose on Performance enhancing energon. Also the side of his head is the same.
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Posted by Randomhero on March 26th, 2016 @ 6:12pm CDT
LE0KING wrote:
Randomhero wrote:Still leaning towards Tarn being Proteus.

I'm in the Roller camp. In the time travel arc we see Roller using performance enhancers just to keep up with the outliers. In the DJD arc we see Tarn almost overdose on Performance enhancing energon. Also the side of his head is the same.


Starscream and his team used Ore-13 as performance enhancing energon back in the -ation series. just because 5 dudes also use it doesn't link to Roller, just means a lot of guys use an enhancement for more power.

see, that story was lousy with fingers pointing to Roller being Tarn. He was practically wearing a sign that says "hi! im going to be Tarn" how often does that happen in MTMTE? When is something spelled out like that? never. not once has that ever happened. Roberts did all that because ever since Roller's first appearance in Shadow Play hes gotten tweets, comments and messages regularly from people saying Tarn is Roller.

Roller knew Skids very well. they were part of Orion's first team of Autobots. Its heavily implied Tarn never met Skids until Grindcore prison. plus, Tarn is an extremely intelligent, poetic sadist. When have we ever seen Roller act like how Tarn acts? never. Ive never believed for once the hype that Roller is Tarn.

Lets not kid ourselves, the reveal of Tarn isnt going to be the masses saying "WE ALL KNEW IT FOR 3 YEARS!" its going to be the Minimus Ambus reveal that no one saw coming.
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Posted by Ironhidensh on March 27th, 2016 @ 2:10pm CDT
Randomhero wrote:
LE0KING wrote:
Randomhero wrote:Still leaning towards Tarn being Proteus.

I'm in the Roller camp. In the time travel arc we see Roller using performance enhancers just to keep up with the outliers. In the DJD arc we see Tarn almost overdose on Performance enhancing energon. Also the side of his head is the same.


Starscream and his team used Ore-13 as performance enhancing energon back in the -ation series. just because 5 dudes also use it doesn't link to Roller, just means a lot of guys use an enhancement for more power.

see, that story was lousy with fingers pointing to Roller being Tarn. He was practically wearing a sign that says "hi! im going to be Tarn" how often does that happen in MTMTE? When is something spelled out like that? never. not once has that ever happened. Roberts did all that because ever since Roller's first appearance in Shadow Play hes gotten tweets, comments and messages regularly from people saying Tarn is Roller.

Roller knew Skids very well. they were part of Orion's first team of Autobots. Its heavily implied Tarn never met Skids until Grindcore prison. plus, Tarn is an extremely intelligent, poetic sadist. When have we ever seen Roller act like how Tarn acts? never. Ive never believed for once the hype that Roller is Tarn.

Lets not kid ourselves, the reveal of Tarn isnt going to be the masses saying "WE ALL KNEW IT FOR 3 YEARS!" its going to be the Minimus Ambus reveal that no one saw coming.

So you think that "Tarn" is just a suit of armor? Interesting.
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Posted by Randomhero on March 27th, 2016 @ 10:29pm CDT
Ironhidensh wrote:
Randomhero wrote:
LE0KING wrote:
Randomhero wrote:Still leaning towards Tarn being Proteus.

I'm in the Roller camp. In the time travel arc we see Roller using performance enhancers just to keep up with the outliers. In the DJD arc we see Tarn almost overdose on Performance enhancing energon. Also the side of his head is the same.


Starscream and his team used Ore-13 as performance enhancing energon back in the -ation series. just because 5 dudes also use it doesn't link to Roller, just means a lot of guys use an enhancement for more power.

see, that story was lousy with fingers pointing to Roller being Tarn. He was practically wearing a sign that says "hi! im going to be Tarn" how often does that happen in MTMTE? When is something spelled out like that? never. not once has that ever happened. Roberts did all that because ever since Roller's first appearance in Shadow Play hes gotten tweets, comments and messages regularly from people saying Tarn is Roller.

Roller knew Skids very well. they were part of Orion's first team of Autobots. Its heavily implied Tarn never met Skids until Grindcore prison. plus, Tarn is an extremely intelligent, poetic sadist. When have we ever seen Roller act like how Tarn acts? never. Ive never believed for once the hype that Roller is Tarn.

Lets not kid ourselves, the reveal of Tarn isnt going to be the masses saying "WE ALL KNEW IT FOR 3 YEARS!" its going to be the Minimus Ambus reveal that no one saw coming.

So you think that "Tarn" is just a suit of armor? Interesting.


No. It's going to be the same as minimus in shock value. I think Tarn is a shadow played or Stockholm syndrome Senator Proreus.
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Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on March 28th, 2016 @ 9:46pm CDT
That random con on page 2.... IDW Lugnut!!

Also, I still think Tarn is Dominus Ambus. That is still my thought. Roller is, as said, way too obvious. :MAXIMAL:
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Posted by Randomhero on March 29th, 2016 @ 11:23am CDT
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:That random con on page 2.... IDW Lugnut!!

Also, I still think Tarn is Dominus Ambus. That is still my thought. Roller is, as said, way too obvious. :MAXIMAL:



Only reason I don't I don't think he's Dominus is due to rewind interacting with the DJD on the lost light. Also depends on if Dominus and rewind were still off planet during skids time in grindcore when he was interacting with Tarn.
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Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on March 29th, 2016 @ 2:02pm CDT
Randomhero wrote:Only reason I don't I don't think he's Dominus is due to rewind interacting with the DJD on the lost light. Also depends on if Dominus and rewind were still off planet during skids time in grindcore when he was interacting with Tarn.

I feel that Skids encounter came later in the war, whereas Dominus went missing earlier in the war. Also, the reason Rewind survived that alternate lost light may be because of Dominus recognizing him, and since Dominus and Minimus both are piloting larger armors, Dominus knew to slice off the hand of Magnus so he could not recall and thus actually die. Not to mention now we are on the Necroworld, and Tarn could see that Dominus is dead but the whereabouts are unknown, and it will be dramatic like "He is dead, as he became me" sort of deal. :MAXIMAL:
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Posted by Randomhero on March 29th, 2016 @ 2:46pm CDT
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:
Randomhero wrote:Only reason I don't I don't think he's Dominus is due to rewind interacting with the DJD on the lost light. Also depends on if Dominus and rewind were still off planet during skids time in grindcore when he was interacting with Tarn.

I feel that Skids encounter came later in the war, whereas Dominus went missing earlier in the war. Also, the reason Rewind survived that alternate lost light may be because of Dominus recognizing him, and since Dominus and Minimus both are piloting larger armors, Dominus knew to slice off the hand of Magnus so he could not recall and thus actually die. Not to mention now we are on the Necroworld, and Tarn could see that Dominus is dead but the whereabouts are unknown, and it will be dramatic like "He is dead, as he became me" sort of deal. :MAXIMAL:



Well Dominus isn't a load bearing spark. He is a point one percentor(maybe, we only know minimus is, it's probable spark brothers can be different) but it's never been mentioned that he's the same as Minimus and he has a tiny guy inside of him. Especially since we saw him in the alternate universe and his head was a screen. If he was a little guy in there he could just remove that suite and talk to everyone.

I don't know. Think the Dominus story will come later on and be a full blown arc in itself. Seems like that would be more appropriate for that character.
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Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on March 29th, 2016 @ 3:05pm CDT
Randomhero wrote:
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:
Randomhero wrote:Only reason I don't I don't think he's Dominus is due to rewind interacting with the DJD on the lost light. Also depends on if Dominus and rewind were still off planet during skids time in grindcore when he was interacting with Tarn.

I feel that Skids encounter came later in the war, whereas Dominus went missing earlier in the war. Also, the reason Rewind survived that alternate lost light may be because of Dominus recognizing him, and since Dominus and Minimus both are piloting larger armors, Dominus knew to slice off the hand of Magnus so he could not recall and thus actually die. Not to mention now we are on the Necroworld, and Tarn could see that Dominus is dead but the whereabouts are unknown, and it will be dramatic like "He is dead, as he became me" sort of deal. :MAXIMAL:



Well Dominus isn't a load bearing spark. He is a point one percentor(maybe, we only know minimus is, it's probable spark brothers can be different) but it's never been mentioned that he's the same as Minimus and he has a tiny guy inside of him. Especially since we saw him in the alternate universe and his head was a screen. If he was a little guy in there he could just remove that suite and talk to everyone.

I don't know. Think the Dominus story will come later on and be a full blown arc in itself. Seems like that would be more appropriate for that character.

Eh, it could be, But i'm fairly convinced that both spark brothers can be load bearers. They never mentioned it, but it is a possibility. However, they do need to resolve the Dominus, Roller and Terminus arcs throughout the story (not this arc but the overall story) and one of them could and should be solved in this arc :MAXIMAL:
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Posted by Randomhero on March 29th, 2016 @ 4:02pm CDT
I never figured they'd have the same kind of spark type due to the fact that identical twins can have different blood types. Especially since forged sparks apparently "grow" I'd figure minimus was small like his name and Dominus was big like his name.

I'm just not convinced he's Roller. I feel that's a story that needs Optimus guest starring or even ratchet. Nobody else has a relationship with him. Skids was with Orion's team with roller but skids doesn't have memories of that time. He doesn't know who roller is and I don't think Rodimus's jump to past to say "hi" essentially counts as a relationship to roller.
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Posted by Va'al on March 29th, 2016 @ 4:24pm CDT
Randomhero wrote:I'm just not convinced he's Roller. I feel that's a story that needs Optimus guest starring or even ratchet. Nobody else has a relationship with him. Skids was with Orion's team with roller but skids doesn't have memories of that time. He doesn't know who roller is and I don't think Rodimus's jump to past to say "hi" essentially counts as a relationship to roller.


Hummmmm.... :-?
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Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on March 29th, 2016 @ 5:04pm CDT
Randomhero wrote:I never figured they'd have the same kind of spark type due to the fact that identical twins can have different blood types. Especially since forged sparks apparently "grow" I'd figure minimus was small like his name and Dominus was big like his name.

I'm just not convinced he's Roller. I feel that's a story that needs Optimus guest starring or even ratchet. Nobody else has a relationship with him. Skids was with Orion's team with roller but skids doesn't have memories of that time. He doesn't know who roller is and I don't think Rodimus's jump to past to say "hi" essentially counts as a relationship to roller.

I can see the first part of your answer. I have been assuming that they both are the same load-bearers. they could possibly not be both load bearers.

now as for the second part: I agree. Roller is just too obvious. and yeah, Skids may be the only one who can be said to have a relationship with Roller, but the memory thing makes things tricky. :MAXIMAL:

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