IDW Transformers #5 Review

I also want to point out that I suggested thicker inks and blocky design for a character depicted in a blocky way with thick inks, so maybe that isn't the issue there. My art critique vocabulary could probably use some polish, where's Megatronus to help me do words good?

Alrighty, this issue has me back on board. FINALLY, something happened. Now let's hope that things keep happening.

Wheeljack: Another job well done, Rubble!

Rubble: Thanks. It’s fun.

Dang great review Scotty thanks man!

I think that's just the shot in the arm we needed. Much appreciated good sir!

I was beginnibgbto think the lateness of the Review was because of reviewers opinions of the book.

For me, I feel like where Book5 ended, considering this is something like the last page of chapter 1 of a larger story is where we shoukda been in book3. This. Series has a bad habit of spening 17 pages on "story", ramping up thr last 3 pages of "action", and then not continuing the action again. The attack on Megatron comes to mind. Yes, things happened because of the attack, but its words and not actions. Even Megatron feels nonchalant about an attack on his own "flock".

That said, I think in a few years from now this story will be great in the trades, where we can read it and whatever comes next together with no waiting. These Comics are like side dishes, individually they won't fill you up but put together you get a good, if not great, meal.

This story is losing its lustre for me. I like the characters, and I like the world building. I love that the "Golden Age" pre war Cybertron is being shown as a vibrant, thriving part of a larger galaactic community. Something like this is a great way to quietly back-door character families like Rom. But I'm not feeling the "Oh Boy the new Transformers Comic is out" that I was feeling for Issue 1. But 5 left us at an interesting point, so if 6 promises to pickup the ACTION from 5 instead of another Story.

Flashwave wrote:I was beginnibgbto think the lateness of the Review was because of reviewers opinions of the book.

For me, I feel like where Book5 ended, considering this is something like the last page of chapter 1 of a larger story is where we shoukda been in book3. This. Series has a bad habit of spening 17 pages on "story", ramping up thr last 3 pages of "action", and then not continuing the action again. The attack on Megatron comes to mind. Yes, things happened because of the attack, but its words and not actions. Even Megatron feels nonchalant about an attack on his own "flock".

That said, I think in a few years from now this story will be great in the trades, where we can read it and whatever comes next together with no waiting. These Comics are like side dishes, individually they won't fill you up but put together you get a good, if not great, meal.

This story is losing its lustre for me. I like the characters, and I like the world building. I love that the "Golden Age" pre war Cybertron is being shown as a vibrant, thriving part of a larger galaactic community. Something like this is a great way to quietly back-door character families like Rom. But I'm not feeling the "Oh Boy the new Transformers Comic is out" that I was feeling for Issue 1. But 5 left us at an interesting point, so if 6 promises to pickup the ACTION from 5 instead of another Story.

I think you're right about reading in the trades, as that's what I'm doing with this series. I'm still curious as to how much this will tie in to the toylines with the characters rocking the siege look, guess we'll find out soon enough.

I keep checking for any news on the new cartoon- with the dedication to the toy depiction I wonder if it’s a cross media assault with more synergy. That can mean less individual artistic interpretation in each of the mediums but at the end of the day it’s all Transformers it gets me excited. Maybe fans of the show will find the comic. I wonder if it’ll be the exact same stories or not, I think that’s what I’m trying to get at.

I would expect a different story for the Netflix series, that one will probably start in the middle of the war.

A little late to the thread, but I'll be up-to-date in future (now that I've found this forum).

I really enjoyed this issue - more than I've enjoyed any of the others, and that includes issue 1, when I had the untainted optimism around following a new TF comic book series (my first since the original in the 80s).

It seems that the fifth issue follows the same general pattern of the whole series so far - each of the four issues has been 80-90% setup, then a sudden change of pace in the last few pages (the discovery of Brainstorm; the explosion at Megatron's rally; Orion's visit to Codexa). We've had four issues of that, and now things are finally - FINALLY - moving. I sincerely hope they don't drag the pace back to the glacial rate that we've had to suffer.

And please, no more walking and talking. The appeal of Transformers is that they... y'know... transform.

Anyway: here's my video review (the reviews for the four previous issues are also on my channel)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WGvi9Gk4a8

Thanks
David

I'm certainly leaning towards the idea someone else should be given the TF license now.

00Stargrave00 wrote:I keep checking for any news on the new cartoon- with the dedication to the toy depiction I wonder if it’s a cross media assault with more synergy. That can mean less individual artistic interpretation in each of the mediums but at the end of the day it’s all Transformers it gets me excited. Maybe fans of the show will find the comic. I wonder if it’ll be the exact same stories or not, I think that’s what I’m trying to get at.

IDW isn’t shying away from new characters, so I think the trade off for strictly toy accurate figures for guys like Prime and Megatron (whom we care most about) is that we get more freeform designs like Geomodus and the aliens, as well as ELita-1 who oddly is not using her PotP toy even though Quake CLEARLY is his TR figure. And I think that’s okay.

ScottyP made a point 2/3 Podcasts back that this toyline accuracy may in fact be less or as much about selling their own toys and more about Hasbro firing back the 3P guys who were making money off the IDW designs of Charactres like Rodimus. Which raises questions again about guys like Geomodus and Froid, who are NOT toy designs. Will we see the 3P guys try to make their money off second stringers? Is there even demand for that?

Although I have always found it strange that HasTak allow the 3P market to exist in the first place. It is, by the same token, seriously hypocritical of them to decry 3P. As they are making the range of figures HasTak themselves are too lazy and complacent to make.

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Although I have always found it strange that HasTak allow the 3P market to exist in the first place. It is, by the same token, seriously hypocritical of them to decry 3P. As they are making the range of figures HasTak themselves are too lazy and complacent to make.

I always took it that they exist because of gray areas, the copyright laws in the countries they operate in, and lastly, how much it would cost hasbro to step on them. That's neither here or there really mind in the context of the thread.

Now regarding the story so far, I'm curious as to how it was planned out, as I read originally this story arc was supposed to be 12 issues? If that was the case then this doesn't even put us at the half way mark, would that account for pacing if we weren't fully in the middle yet?

3P makes me feel oogy yes it’s good it’s great stuff usually but it also feels like J walking or stealing Brachs from the market yeah ok nobody got hurt but we all know it’s breaking rules.

Hey I’ll be honest I think I’m going to start grabbing issues so I can keep up with you all but I’ve also been waiting thinking I’d get it collected after it’s over like I ended up sadly doing with IDW. In that regard I also don’t want to miss the bandwagon again.

Are any of you Seibertronians waiting for a collected edition before buying?

00Stargrave00 wrote:Are any of you Seibertronians waiting for a collected edition before buying?

I always buy trades, but I'm still not convinced enough to pick up the trade of this yet. But I did enjoy issue 5 more than any of the other issues

I'm a trade buyer as well, I prefer not having to wait for the next issue not till I get to the end of the collection anyway

ZeroWolf wrote:I'm a trade buyer as well, I prefer not having to wait for the next issue not till I get to the end of the collection anyway

I prefer the way I can put them on a shelf that way. It's more organized and a lot easier to find what you want to read too!

Fellow Seibertronians we have a few news bites from the new Transformers comic from IDW! First up is a short but very interesting three page preview from iTunes for Transformers #6. Check ‘em out!









"Optimus takes the spotlight! Even a bot as wise as a leader of the Autobots needs guidance now and again, so Optimus turns to Codexa-A Cybertronian who has grown into the very planet itself. Will she help Optimus settle his problems with Megatron or will she lead them both to ruin?" By Author Brian Ruckly and artist Bethany McGuire-Smith the 32 page issue is expected this month.

Following up with that story is a teaser image from series editor Tom Waltz from his Instagram account giving us a great teaser shot of Cyclonus bearing down like the Cybertronian Count Dracula ready to lay down violet (and probably violent) retribution!



Let us know your thoughts below!

Really disliking the art on Transformers 6.

It's different in terms of art on the first two pages, but I don't hate it.

Transformers X Final Fantasy.. Who knew

@allnew does that mean Megatron will play the part of Sephiroth Also why am I okay with the idea of such a crossover (more so if better then the summons of FF13)

So Codexa is acting as some kind of historical archive here I'm guessing.

Only if Megatron has Mother issues

Yes, how droll. Codexa is a Literal Plot Device...

AllNewSuperRobot wrote::lol: Only if Megatron has Mother issues

Yes, how droll. Codexa is a Literal Plot Device...

To be fair, that just adds to the final fantasy comparison as Jenova was also a plot device really... At least Codexa is getting lines.

AllNewSuperRobot wrote::lol: Only if Megatron has Mother issues

Yes, how droll. Codexa is a Literal Plot Device...

Yeah and we all know those have never existed in transformers in 35 years. Certainly not the matrix, the Allspark, the underbase, the magnificence, the enigma of combinations, Star saber sword, requiem blaster, alpha Trion, the guiding hand, the thirteen.

Totally new idea that we should criticize without knowing anything about...

Randomhero wrote:

AllNewSuperRobot wrote::lol: Only if Megatron has Mother issues

Yes, how droll. Codexa is a Literal Plot Device...

Yeah and we all know those have never existed in transformers in 35 years. Certainly not the matrix, the Allspark, the underbase, the magnificence, the enigma of combinations, Star saber sword, requiem blaster, alpha Trion, the guiding hand, the thirteen.

Totally new idea that we should criticize without knowing anything about...

Seems like it was Orion's memory, anyway. We don't even know that she's any kind of McGuffin as yet.

sol magnus wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

AllNewSuperRobot wrote::lol: Only if Megatron has Mother issues

Yes, how droll. Codexa is a Literal Plot Device...

Yeah and we all know those have never existed in transformers in 35 years. Certainly not the matrix, the Allspark, the underbase, the magnificence, the enigma of combinations, Star saber sword, requiem blaster, alpha Trion, the guiding hand, the thirteen.

Totally new idea that we should criticize without knowing anything about...

Seems like it was Orion's memory, anyway. We don't even know that she's any kind of McGuffin as yet.

All we know is she’s obviously a very old Cybertronian, someone who was held in very high regard that decided her time was over and chose to be integrated back in the planet.

Randomhero wrote:

sol magnus wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

AllNewSuperRobot wrote::lol: Only if Megatron has Mother issues

Yes, how droll. Codexa is a Literal Plot Device...

Yeah and we all know those have never existed in transformers in 35 years. Certainly not the matrix, the Allspark, the underbase, the magnificence, the enigma of combinations, Star saber sword, requiem blaster, alpha Trion, the guiding hand, the thirteen.

Totally new idea that we should criticize without knowing anything about...

Seems like it was Orion's memory, anyway. We don't even know that she's any kind of McGuffin as yet.

All we know is she’s obviously a very old Cybertronian, someone who was held in very high regard that decided her time was over and chose to be integrated back in the planet.

Yes. And I'm good with that. But the segue seemed like it was Orion going back to when he first knew Megatron, not Codexa relating any information.

Absorbed back into the very substance that birthed her...wicked

ill be honest i dont see this series lasting.

i mean do you remember when people were giving out about how slow INFLITRATION was?

this is positively glacial. hell compare the two iterations and by this stage furman had pretty much set up the entire IDW transformers universe status quo.

ruckley has introduced some nice SCI/FI tropes but TBH in total you coulda covered most of it in a back up story ala the aul G2 comic (think tales of earth etc) , most of the time nothing seems to be happening. i havent seen this much walking around since the last episode of "Game of Thrones"

writing for the trade means bugger all if NO ONE buys the comic series and TBH i think the sales fig will be at OPTIMUS PRIMES cancellation level within the quarter.

sol magnus wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

sol magnus wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

AllNewSuperRobot wrote::lol: Only if Megatron has Mother issues

Yes, how droll. Codexa is a Literal Plot Device...

Yeah and we all know those have never existed in transformers in 35 years. Certainly not the matrix, the Allspark, the underbase, the magnificence, the enigma of combinations, Star saber sword, requiem blaster, alpha Trion, the guiding hand, the thirteen.

Totally new idea that we should criticize without knowing anything about...

Seems like it was Orion's memory, anyway. We don't even know that she's any kind of McGuffin as yet.

All we know is she’s obviously a very old Cybertronian, someone who was held in very high regard that decided her time was over and chose to be integrated back in the planet.

Yes. And I'm good with that. But the segue seemed like it was Orion going back to when he first knew Megatron, not Codexa relating any information.

Hey that’s how I’m interpreting the scene. It’s orion flashing back not unlike a similar situation in Spotlight Optimus Prime when he went and met up with omega supreme to learn more about Nova Prime.


Codexa is just there and he’s talking to her

william-james88 wrote:Really disliking the art on Transformers 6.

I could not disagree more. This art is by far my favorite of the art that has been seen in the 5 issues so far

War Dawn. Chaos Theory. Exodus. The origins of the conflict between Optimus Prime and Megatron have been explored several times over in Transformers media with some examples being more successful and well remembered than others. For this latest iteration of the franchise in comic book form, its sixth issue looks back at the relationship between Orion Pax and Megatron before any wars have ever begun. The resulting output is a meandering exercise in unrealized potential that squashes the positive momentum carried out of the previous issue. Read on to find out more about a series quickly falling into an identity crisis.


The ambition here is plainly visible, as throughout 20 pages, it feels like the intention was to present the history of this iteration of Orion Pax and Megatron through a dreamlike recollection of days gone by with focus on small interpersonal moments that feed the current hyper-mild tension between these two franchise icons. The first anecdotal flashback sequence really works in building up these characters and their histories, with Megatron performing physical labor while Orion incompetently tries to assist his friend. This delivers the intended impact with an easy to follow but thought out depiction of the contrast in their personalities, though it's a bit subtle at times. It also casts a lens on each of their ambitions but remains rooted in just enough of who you already think these characters are. It was a great way to start out the flashback story that worked well within the medium of a comic book.

Then the problems really ramp up.


The second scene trying to do the same thing loses itself in an attempted spectacle that would probably look phenomenal in an animated medium, being set on a fantastical location on Cybertron's moon that allows for a metaphorical representation of Orion and Megatron's friendship to be presented. The visual presentation here didn't work for me and while I think the intended message is conveyed, it's delivered in a way that ultimately lacked a real emotional impact. Things happen and words are said but the art and story are too lost in their attempt at being respectively a cartoon and novel to work. Story wise, the dialogue drives home a great bit of what while failing to convey how these characters feel about it. This is caused by an over reliance on the big picture, potential implications of these Transformers' desires and ambitions on the world around them. Said world is still fuzzy, at least to this reader, creating a missed opportunity to make the dramatic tension later implied something rooted in a (presumably just friendly) relationship and its history of interactions and misunderstanding. The story opts instead to make it about anxiety and paranoia without earning its way to that goal.


Visually, there are too many panels to make the setting work. One of the best shots in the series was back in issue 1 via a two-page spread near the start that made Cybertron reflect elements of wonder and mystery. A similar choice might have helped here at some point along the way, and perhaps accompanying panels at the bottom (a technique used effectively in Unicron, More Than Meets The Eye and probably hundreds of other comics) could keep the needed space for the spoken words. At least one moment almost got there with a full page visual, but it suffers from another issue that I hope isn't as present in a printed copy: while the pencils here from newcomer Bethany McGuire-Smith show an artist definitely suited for more Transformers work, the finishes look incomplete. This could have helped the story and was likely intentional, given the way in which we're taken along in Codexa's memory to view what's presented on the page, but the visual technique never quite commits to embracing any surreal enough qualities to say that for certain.


The covers available feature an amazing Jack Lawrence and Josh Burcham piece for the "A" cover that conveys some of the emotion that the interior contents were lacking for me. Interior artist McGuire-Smith's work is seen again on the "B" cover and is featured in this review's news story thumbnail. Jeffrey Veregge provides another wonderfully imaginative "travel poster" cover for the ten copy retailer incentive option, available soon at the Seibertron eBay store along with the A cover and B cover. As previously covered, a retailer exclusive cover is also available. As always, you can also find images of all of the book's covers along with full credits for the issue in our Vector Sigma Database page for Transformers #6.


Just when things take a step forward, they hop back in a strange way. This issue works best after issue 3, if it had to come this early, but the main problem here might be that it was too early to tell this story as the main result is an unearned, borderline illogical decision by Orion Pax on the actions he should take moving into the future after consulting with the Transformers equivalent of the Three-Eyed Raven of all things. There's subtlety and then there's a lack of elaboration - if the tone of this review has told you anything so far, it's that I found this installment falling into the latter category more so than the former. While there are some worthwhile moments and a clearly ambitious, cared for overall effort, the execution shows a reach that exceeded its grasp, or maybe a desire to make TV instead of a comic book.

Bottom line for this reviewer: I really want to like this issue and can pick up what the creative team is possibly trying to craft, one scene in this really is good, but the crammed layouts and bone-dry dialogue are leaving me ambivalent towards the overall product.

This is making me really wish they would let James Roberts come back in with a continuation of MTMTE and Lost Light.

I'm still hoping they do what DC did with New 52, realize it was a mistake, and revive the original continuity. I was willing to give the new series a fair shot, but it continues to pale in comparison to what came before. I used to look forward to comic book day, now I just pick these up out of a sense of obligation to keep up with the lore.

So I read the issue. I didn't want to rely on the reviewer (as is normal, no offense to any reviewer).

Honestly, I think the rehashed nature of the roles and interplay of Optimus Prime and Megatron as "sort of friends", as we've seen since the Aligned continuity may just be something most people are going to say "been there, done that" about without judging the current work on it's own merits - just within that context.

While this OP / Megatron relationship has the same general form as what Hasbro seemingly wants that relationship to be, it doesn't have necessarily the same substance. I'm okay with that, if I'm not okay with OP/Megatron being friends and having to have known each other before they became archenemies. Optimus Prime has a lot of friends. Knows a lot of people. Doesn't mean he has to know Megatron personally. But it is what it is, so I digress.

What I probably take more issue with is just not knowing "enough" about the movings and shakings up THIS Cybertron and where that lands us. And to be fair, that's how we started with the previous continuity as well. And people complained about that. As well.

Anyway, onto the issue itself.

I didn't find the dialogue bad. I didn't find it good. I found it adequate to explain where this Orion and this Megatron find themselves. I definitely don't think the writer doesn't know the characters. Their lines are "true" to the spirit of both. Within the established and (even well worn at this point) Aligned continuity 'we-used-to-be-friends-now-we're-foes' dynamic of the two principle characters in the franchise, there's only so many permutations available to you to get them to where we know them without undue contrivance.

All the vitriol aimed at this series really kind of gives me flashbacks about the first third or so of IDW's old run. I won't (and didn't) defend those books as all awesomely written pieces of fiction, but I'm not looking for exemplary writing, I'm looking for entertaining writing. And as far as I'm concerned, the book did that. What I'm curious about is why drop this issue out "order" with issue three as some kind of interlude-ish pursuit? Rubble getting punched didn't feel exactly like something you needed to wait a month to see the results of.

Anyway - I will say out of for issue 6. Middling.

Lore Keeper wrote:now I just pick these up out of a sense of obligation to keep up with the lore.

Sometimes it's tough to be the Lore Keeper, huh?

Anyway, I've been reading LL again, and I can't help with the comparison. I didn't (and still don't) think Roberts deserved the praise heaped on him, he was overhyped, but even his lower quality work was better than this. My main problem with this is that the story seems to be moving at a snail's pace. We were told that this series will be 12 issues initially, but so far barely anything has happened. So unless the 2nd half really kicks things into gear, this story is lost. Even so, it will be poorly paced at best. Honestly, I think it should have been different than what the Aligned continuity has given us so far, and perhaps have Orion and Megatron go back to their real roots, and be enemies from the very start, each representing a certain set of values and ideals.

Lore Keeper wrote:I'm still hoping they do what DC did with New 52, realize it was a mistake, and revive the original continuity.

I have been reading DC comics this whole time and that did not happen. They keep making that abundantly clear by showing us that some characters pasts have changed and arent coming back like Tim Drake, Stephanie Brown, Cassandra Cain and so on.

That tether linking Cybertron and its moon is way too thin. Even made of the toughest possible material, it would soon snap. Even if the two celestial bodies were perfectly balanced in their movements, the wind would strain the connecting structure and result in failure after a few months or years. Also, one has to consider things like intense sunlight, cosmic rays and meteorites. Such 'orbital towers' are designed to reach smaller satellites, not moons. Sorry Brian!

snavej wrote:That tether linking Cybertron and its moon is way too thin. Even made of the toughest possible material, it would soon snap. Even if the two celestial bodies were perfectly balanced in their movements, the wind would strain the connecting structure and result in failure after a few months or years. Also, one has to consider things like intense sunlight, cosmic rays and meteorites. Such 'orbital towers' are designed to reach smaller satellites, not moons. Sorry Brian!

Bah you and your physics!

snavej wrote:That tether linking Cybertron and its moon is way too thin. Even made of the toughest possible material, it would soon snap. Even if the two celestial bodies were perfectly balanced in their movements, the wind would strain the connecting structure and result in failure after a few months or years. Also, one has to consider things like intense sunlight, cosmic rays and meteorites. Such 'orbital towers' are designed to reach smaller satellites, not moons. Sorry Brian!

They have liquid metal faces and can shape-shift their size stop pulling hairs

I found Issue 6 frustrating and annoying, especially after the previous issue delivered so much momentum and plot. We have walking and talking (without the walking) and no action. I did like the extended metaphor of Megatron pushing the status quo and preferring to take things away from equilibrium- the whole scene with the moon and the free-fall away from gravitational balance. That, and the way Megatron presents a clear and well-developed argument for change.

But if all the clues were there, doesn't Orion come across as a little blind or naive?

Video review: https://youtu.be/8KdGqmiqhTk

I really enjoyed the art on the issue, but the story again felt stalled out. We had a great climax with things moving last issue, and then we take an issue off. I really wish something else had happened, or that this had been earlier in the series so this issue was the climatic one and we could move on to the next issue ready and rising

I can't help but think IDW has kind of...ran out of steam and this is coming from a guy who ended up loathing where the overall universe went. But, still, let me explain. Its not that I'm bugged by yet-another-reboot. Transformers is on its what, eight-ish-and-a-half rebooted universe? What has bugged me with the current IDW crop is that its at times very bland and very safe and I'm not entirely sure how to put it into word: were they told by Hasbro to 'cut the shit and make some pretty basic stuff?'

If so, if they were indeed told and mandated to make a very basic Transformers tale then they're doing a terrible job. Each of these major reboots had their own identity: RiD was kind of experimental as it took a spinoff of G1 in Japan and made it a self contained story and the early 2000 anime dub gave it its own style. Unicron Trilog took this anime fusion to a next level even if it was gimmick-laden. Movie-verse was crude and hyper violent but it had a flair of its own. Animated was a very unique superhero team show with a young Optimus. WFC presented Aligned continuity as this rebooted G1 while Prime definitely made its own thing with sprawling mythos and references. Cyberverse itself is basically just that but in a more kid-friendly package.

This? I don't know I just don't really get any strong feelings on what this reboot is like/about. Am I crazy? Am I making sense or just rambling? It feel at times like a washed out IDW and Aligned that has all the color and unique quirks (good, bad and godawful) slightly faded and washed out.

Rodimus Prime wrote:Sometimes it's tough to be the Lore Keeper, huh?

Indeed. I have the hardest life.

william-james88 wrote:

Lore Keeper wrote:I'm still hoping they do what DC did with New 52, realize it was a mistake, and revive the original continuity.

I have been reading DC comics this whole time and that did not happen. They keep making that abundantly clear by showing us that some characters pasts have changed and arent coming back like Tim Drake, Stephanie Brown, Cassandra Cain and so on.

From what I've seen, they merged elements of the 52 and original universes, but OG is still the dominant fiction as far as I can tell.

Six issues in and I'm really fucking bored with this series.

Lore Keeper wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Lore Keeper wrote:I'm still hoping they do what DC did with New 52, realize it was a mistake, and revive the original continuity.

I have been reading DC comics this whole time and that did not happen. They keep making that abundantly clear by showing us that some characters pasts have changed and arent coming back like Tim Drake, Stephanie Brown, Cassandra Cain and so on.

From what I've seen, they merged elements of the 52 and original universes, but OG is still the dominant fiction as far as I can tell.

Nope.
They've restored certain elements (mostly replacing New 52 Lois and Clark with old Lois and Clark and bringing back White Wally with vague memories of the other time line) but for the bulk of it it's still borne out of New 52.

Guess it’s just me. I liked this issue a lot. I enjoy seeing the origin of these characters and their peaceful interactions and debates. I don’t care about about them shooting each other. I really like seeing Optimus and Megatron acting civil to eachother a lot.

Randomhero wrote:Guess it’s just me. I liked this issue a lot. I enjoy seeing the origin of these characters and their peaceful interactions and debates. I don’t care about about them shooting each other. I really like seeing Optimus and Megatron acting civil to eachother a lot.

It's not just you. I actually enjoyed it.

I do want puncing and shooting, and yes...transforming. But all of that has to serve the story. Just like an all dialogue issue.

sol magnus wrote:

Randomhero wrote:Guess it’s just me. I liked this issue a lot. I enjoy seeing the origin of these characters and their peaceful interactions and debates. I don’t care about about them shooting each other. I really like seeing Optimus and Megatron acting civil to eachother a lot.

It's not just you. I actually enjoyed it.

I do want puncing and shooting, and yes...transforming. But all of that has to serve the story. Just like an all dialogue issue.

I dont think anyone really minds all dialogue issues. The best TF comic of this millenia is an all dialogue issue : https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... era/42653/

This comic is nowhere near a James Roberts all dialogue issue.