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IDW Lost Light #4 Full Preview

Transformers News: IDW Lost Light #4 Full Preview

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Comic Vine has updated with the full preview for Transformers: Lost Light! The issue appears to focus in on Whirl and Cyclonus, as well as what the heck is going on with Rung. Check out the full preview below!

Transformers News: IDW Lost Light #4 Full Preview

Transformers News: IDW Lost Light #4 Full Preview

Transformers News: IDW Lost Light #4 Full Preview

Transformers News: IDW Lost Light #4 Full Preview

Transformers News: IDW Lost Light #4 Full Preview

Transformers News: IDW Lost Light #4 Full Preview

Transformers News: IDW Lost Light #4 Full Preview
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Re: IDW Lost Light #4 Full Preview (1869338)
Posted by ebo716 on March 25th, 2017 @ 9:05pm CDT
I kind of want the next issues title to be the name of another CCR song although looking at the other titles this issue just seems to be named for no other reason than the stuff happening with the moon ( which I kind of want to be unicron)
Re: IDW Lost Light #4 Full Preview (1869467)
Posted by ricemazter on March 26th, 2017 @ 3:44pm CDT
So far, I'm enjoying this series, but not nearly as much as MTMTE. I think part of it is that every single character has something going wrong with them that isn't related to the current plot. It makes me role my eyes that something else is being introduced in what seems like every other panel.

While the mutiny and main quest are hanging over our heads, we're trapped in the functionist universe. At the same time, there's Anode, who has her dark past exposed by Velocity, which is actually just a cover for her real dark secret. Skids death has caused some of our characters to turn to drugs. But never mind that, Killmaster's back, and he might have killed Swerve and Ten. Except, no, they've just been transported somewhere else entirely. Then, Tailgaite's going nuts somewhere in the background, causing him to mutilate Cyclonus. It's all so exhausting.

Also, I have to wonder, how it is that Killmaster's arm is even able to be cut off by a sword. Aren't the Warriors Elite supposed to have unutrium coated endo-skeletons, making them virtually indestructible? Overlord was exploded from the inside out and later blasted with an asteroid shattering laser. He was left largely intact.
Re: IDW Lost Light #4 Full Preview (1870156)
Posted by ScottyP on March 29th, 2017 @ 6:21am CDT
Do Go 'Round Tonight
A Review of Transformers: Lost Light #4

As spoiler-free as I can make it. Probably. I tried.
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The next mission begins!

The latest chapter of the massive, sweeping Transformers ongoing comics arrive this week, with two very different stories gracing shelves. One is Till All Are One #8, which judging from sales numbers is the best Transformers comic that Transformers fans don't read and you should feel bad about that. The other is the subject of this review, Lost Light #4. We're in the middle of a story arc that's six issues deep, and now we're past the halfway point. How are things shaping up with our heroes scattered about and in various states of misadventure?

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The light begins to shine

Simultaneously, situations improve and decline across the three main plots of this issue. There's "Team Rodimus", stranded on Functionist Cybertron to take up one of these main plot lines, and with the agonizing cliffhanger of issue 3 get ready for, well, another cliffhanger. It's in the best of ways though if I'm honest about it. Anyone that watches Game of Thrones knows that sometimes an ending that leaves you unsatisfied for now, where you want to know more and see more and figure out what might happen next, can be a good ending. It means that you're wrapped up in something compelling, and when the attention of the book turns to this plot my eyes are glued to the page in anticipation and wonderment.

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Behold: Super close-cropping to avoid a spoiler

Back on Necroworld, which may or may not be in the "main" universe of the Transformers and Hasbro Universe books, there are two plot threads running through this issue. One of them is action packed and oozing with plot progression and character moments, and that's the one featuring Cyclonus, Whirl, Tailgate, and a recently awakened nemesis in Killmaster. This also ends on a cliffhanger - a good, effective one that leaves me wanting to read more. While it's not certain, it definitely seems that things aren't going to end well here, but then again, Cyclonus told us so in February of 2012 in the pages of More Than Meets The Eye #2, didn't he?

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Why are dad and dad fighting?

Then there's the argument in my head over whether or not the argument above really needed to happen here. After taking time and pursuing a more thoughtful analysis, it does. The visual storytelling in surrounding panels justifies the space, not to mention it makes sense for the characters involved. It progresses some long running plots in various ways, and is called back to effectively later in the issue.

Then there's the third small plot that's moved along in this issue, involving Anode and Lug. I've been a defender of these characters' inclusion and development for this arc, but their purpose is now fuzzy whereas it didn't feel that way earlier. The additional backstory is nice, and building up new characters is great, but something about the three pages given to these two newer arrivals missed the mark. The point is clear, the event that happened to end the scene is sure to be relevant later, and there is genuine purpose to all the words. None of that's really critical, of course, so what gives? It certainly wasn't the visuals, which were handled wonderfully by Jack Lawrence and Joana Lafuente's always sublime Necroworld color palette.

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What it may be is a very purposeful usage of too many words. If you look at the roughly one-third of a page shown above, it doesn't have many words by the end, yet so much is said. The "new" Megatron, defined.

Were Lug's actions supposed to be ours?

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The Last Action Master

Aside from the already mentioned Lawrence and Lafuente, there's the return of Tom B. Long on letter work. As usual, Long's work is fantastic and I don't have enough superlatives to describe it. Nick Roche and Josh Burcham again provide an outstanding cover fitting thematically with their other variant covers from the series so far, but a special mention needs to go to Alex Milne and Josh Perez's cover featuring Megatron and Terminus. This right here is frame-worthy.

As always, you can find full credits and covers in our database entry for Lost Light #4, along with a list of characters that appear in the issue (sometimes pretty early on release day depending on my alarm clock) so do be aware of possible spoilers.

Verdict
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Scores don't feel fair to big multi-part works. The more this goes on, the more it's clearly intended to be read all together as a six issue story. To be fair, Mr. Roberts has more-or-less directly pointed this out, or that's at least how I took it. That element holds this issue back a bit, but only a bit. Be sure to pick this one up and head back here to speculate about the future here on our forums by replying to this post.

. :CYBERTRON: :CYBERTRON: :CYBERTRON: :CYBERTRON: out of :CYBERTRON: :CYBERTRON: :CYBERTRON: :CYBERTRON: :CYBERTRON:


Bonus! James Roberts' soundtrack suggestions for this issue:
  • Nils Frahm - "You"
  • The New Pornographers - "The Bleeding Heart"
  • Interpol - "Next Exit (Stay)"

Encore Bonus! Uniclock Update:
I'm going to be reviewing this series for the site for a while, and some of you can guess why this is. I'm moving our Lost Light/Hasbro Comics Universe Doomsday Clock, the Uniclock, ahead one minute. After reading the issue you may think this is a bit over-conservative, but at least for right now, well, in John Barber I'll choose to trust and assume the slow burn will remain slow for awhile longer as stated in the linked Twincast interview with him. We'll see how long though. Another issue with this many signs and it's going to start to look like we'll find out the answer to the question "Where do you go?"

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Re: IDW Lost Light #4 Full Preview (1870157)
Posted by Randomhero on March 29th, 2017 @ 6:33am CDT
I love the watchmen clock but this is not the series for it. What just happened in TAAO justifies a doomsday clock even more because HOLY SH**!!!

I really enjoyed the issue a lot. It has some positives, some negatives. The art is lovely, I think both stories are very interesting sadly it's waaaaaaay too talky even for Roberts. Especially since some of the conversations have happened in previous issues and entire pages are spent revealing something 1. People have already figured out or 2. Just didn't need an entire page to relay. Seriously the Megatron/Rodimus argument is almost 2 full pages and is something we've already read once or twice.

Again, not all bad but for me the bads are pretty heavy when they come on.
Re: IDW Lost Light #4 Full Preview (1870162)
Posted by ScottyP on March 29th, 2017 @ 7:33am CDT
Randomhero wrote:I love the watchmen clock but this is not the series for it. What just happened in TAAO justifies a doomsday clock even more because HOLY SH**!!!

I really enjoyed the issue a lot. It has some positives, some negatives. The art is lovely, I think both stories are very interesting sadly it's waaaaaaay too talky even for Roberts. Especially since some of the conversations have happened in previous issues and entire pages are spent revealing something 1. People have already figured out or 2. Just didn't need an entire page to relay. Seriously the Megatron/Rodimus argument is almost 2 full pages and is something we've already read once or twice.

Again, not all bad but for me the bads are pretty heavy when they come on.
Liege Maximo is one of the big reasons I moved that thing up despite what Barber told me. The stuff in this issue of LL could just be foreshadowing/tongue in cheek, though that also seems unlikely.

I was of the same mind on the Megs/Rodimus scuffle over the weekend (when we get our review copies) but after a couple other slow, careful re-reads I changed my tune. The point, to me, was that they're taking way too much time they don't have for a silly repetitive argument, and the slow build of the blue light around them gives that sense of "hey, HEY dudes, stop!" If you imagine it as a TV scene maybe it works better?

Alternately, I talked myself into liking it. :)
Re: IDW Lost Light #4 Full Preview (1870163)
Posted by Randomhero on March 29th, 2017 @ 7:49am CDT
ScottyP wrote:
Randomhero wrote:I love the watchmen clock but this is not the series for it. What just happened in TAAO justifies a doomsday clock even more because HOLY SH**!!!

I really enjoyed the issue a lot. It has some positives, some negatives. The art is lovely, I think both stories are very interesting sadly it's waaaaaaay too talky even for Roberts. Especially since some of the conversations have happened in previous issues and entire pages are spent revealing something 1. People have already figured out or 2. Just didn't need an entire page to relay. Seriously the Megatron/Rodimus argument is almost 2 full pages and is something we've already read once or twice.

Again, not all bad but for me the bads are pretty heavy when they come on.
Liege Maximo is one of the big reasons I moved that thing up despite what Barber told me. The stuff in this issue of LL could just be foreshadowing/tongue in cheek, though that also seems unlikely.

I was of the same mind on the Megs/Rodimus scuffle over the weekend (when we get our review copies) but after a couple other slow, careful re-reads I changed my tune. The point, to me, was that they're taking way too much time they don't have for a silly repetitive argument, and the slow build of the blue light around them gives that sense of "hey, HEY dudes, stop!" If you imagine it as a TV scene maybe it works better?

Alternately, I talked myself into liking it. :)


I get that with the clock. Threw me off with being on here

I didn't hate the conversation, it just went on way too long and just said stuff megs has already been accused of and everything.

Still confused lug

I guess she was the spark that died and Anode created her in her mind out of guilt but man if that's it okay but , it's not very original especially since we have that relationship with starscream and bumblebee in TAAO and it's been done way better in other comic books.
Re: IDW Lost Light #4 Full Preview (1870164)
Posted by Kurona on March 29th, 2017 @ 7:53am CDT
The Megatron/Rodimus did take me out of it a little and I'm glad it was brought up. I wasn't entirely sure if I liked it or not; it did make sense and both of these characters' possible ulterior motives did need to be addressed, but at the same time it kinda feels like Rodimus and Megatron's relationship had progressed past this point. Maybe I shouldn't underestimate 4 million years of war :roll:

And I think you also summed up my feelings on Anode and Lug. I love these two to death, but something about their inclusion felt out-of-place and separate compared to everything else going on at the moment.

... god, I feel weird being this critical of my favourite series and an issue I actually liked. Someone give me some cute Chromedome and Rewind art
Re: IDW Lost Light #4 Full Preview (1870165)
Posted by Randomhero on March 29th, 2017 @ 8:12am CDT
I don't think Megatron has an ulterior motive in the slightest. I feel rodimus is completely out of line. Megatron did at one point and he admitted it to Ravage that he was delaying his trial, that's why he had the briefcase but after their first visit to the Necroworld he abandoned it. Ravage revealed Megatron admitted he can't delay and hide from the inevitable, he needs to face it.

Megatron is just doing what's right and I like Magnus's line in the comic after the argument when Megatron is laying out strategies.
Re: IDW Lost Light #4 Full Preview (1870170)
Posted by ScottyP on March 29th, 2017 @ 8:26am CDT
Kurona wrote: Someone give me some cute Chromedome and Rewind art
I really want to keep talking comics but responsible adult things are calling (work), but I can do this at least:
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Re: IDW Lost Light #4 Full Preview (1870181)
Posted by Kurona on March 29th, 2017 @ 8:46am CDT
ScottyP wrote:
Kurona wrote: Someone give me some cute Chromedome and Rewind art
I really want to keep talking comics but responsible adult things are calling (work), but I can do this at least:
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Extremely good. Keep this up and Va'al may just have competition for my favourite.
Re: IDW Lost Light #4 Full Preview (1870264)
Posted by Va'al on March 29th, 2017 @ 12:32pm CDT
Kurona wrote:
ScottyP wrote:
Kurona wrote: Someone give me some cute Chromedome and Rewind art
I really want to keep talking comics but responsible adult things are calling (work), but I can do this at least:
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Extremely good. Keep this up and Va'al may just have competition for my favourite.


TFA Anode.

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Re: IDW Lost Light #4 Full Preview (1870287)
Posted by SureShot18 on March 29th, 2017 @ 1:41pm CDT
I love how Anode's alt mode is a Cybertronian biplane.
Re: IDW Lost Light #4 Full Preview (1870299)
Posted by Randomhero on March 29th, 2017 @ 2:25pm CDT
SureShot18 wrote:I love how Anode's alt mode is a Cybertronian biplane.



As if Minimus Ambus's mustache wasn't hipster enough :roll:
Re: IDW Lost Light #4 Full Preview (1870437)
Posted by Va'al on March 30th, 2017 @ 2:34am CDT
Burn can be so sweet some times (him on the left, me on the right).

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Re: IDW Lost Light #4 Full Preview (1870439)
Posted by Burn on March 30th, 2017 @ 2:43am CDT
Just for clarification, because he only said some times.

I still hate you all. :-P
I need to get me a new Whirl.
Re: IDW Lost Light #4 Full Preview (1870442)
Posted by Va'al on March 30th, 2017 @ 3:25am CDT
Burn wrote:I need to get me a new Whirl.


You're replacing me?! :(
Re: IDW Lost Light #4 Full Preview (1870444)
Posted by Burn on March 30th, 2017 @ 3:43am CDT
Va'al wrote:
Burn wrote:I need to get me a new Whirl.


You're replacing me?! :(

Are you made of plastic and smell bad?
Re: IDW Lost Light #4 Full Preview (1870447)
Posted by Va'al on March 30th, 2017 @ 4:06am CDT
Burn wrote:
Va'al wrote:
Burn wrote:I need to get me a new Whirl.


You're replacing me?! :(

Are you made of plastic and smell bad?


...definitely not. ;;)
Re: IDW Lost Light #4 Full Preview (1870472)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on March 30th, 2017 @ 8:01am CDT
Va'al wrote:
Burn wrote:
Va'al wrote:
Burn wrote:I need to get me a new Whirl.


You're replacing me?! :(

Are you made of plastic and smell bad?


...definitely not. ;;)

That's... probably up for debate. ;)

The problem is: the forum admin is right. I can totally see that style of relationship between you 2.

Also Burn: Pretty sure my target still has some Whirls, or at least they still did 2 weeks ago. I can get you a plastic replacement that smells better and doesn't have a sarcastic-laden voice :D
Re: IDW Lost Light #4 Full Preview (1870597)
Posted by bodrock on March 30th, 2017 @ 4:39pm CDT
ScottyP wrote:
Kurona wrote: Someone give me some cute Chromedome and Rewind art
I really want to keep talking comics but responsible adult things are calling (work), but I can do this at least:
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LOVE DIS :x

I'm trying to catch-up to Lost Light as fast as I can to avoid spoilers here....but honestly, I did "read" MTME on tfwiki prior to buying all the TPBs! So now, seeing the great art and the events play out on the page is easier to follow along, even if it has been slightly spoiled.

Speaking of Whirl though, I still only have his G1 incarnation -- I wish I had gone Generations for an update. I'm also considering that Henkei classics set of Tailgate & Swerve....
Re: IDW Lost Light #4 Full Preview (1870599)
Posted by Burn on March 30th, 2017 @ 4:43pm CDT
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Also Burn: Pretty sure my target still has some Whirls, or at least they still did 2 weeks ago. I can get you a plastic replacement that smells better and doesn't have a sarcastic-laden voice :D

Found a very good priced one on E-Bay and snapped him up (Thanks though).

What can I say, every time I read Whirl in Lost Light I'm reminded of Stinky times and that I really need to get a Whirl that could be kept inside.
Re: IDW Lost Light #4 Full Preview (1871842)
Posted by WreckerJack on April 5th, 2017 @ 2:53am CDT
We have discovered Jeff Haas has done an interview with James Roberts about the Lost Light comic. James Roberts talks about his writing process and ideas for the series. The way he speaks about his work really shows how dedicated he is to the series.

"The first few drafts of the script are usually in longhand – I have a tower of notebooks full of my barely legible handwriting. I refine the dialog when typing everything up, and then edit it all again by hand" - James Roberts


The article also touches on the characters and stories along with James Robert's thoughts. It is an interesting read because you get a feel for how deep the story is. He also shares his ideas about some of the characters in both MTMTE and Lost Light.

"Anode, being a totally new character – and someone who was unfamiliar with our regulars and their backstory ... I wanted a driven, funny, independent, ebullient, cheeky new character, with a unique set of skills.” - James Roberts


If you enjoy Transformers: Lost Light, make sure you check out our archive!
Re: IDW Lost Light #4 Full Preview (1871874)
Posted by Kurona on April 5th, 2017 @ 8:37am CDT
"[Anode] was going to cross paths with the crew of the Lost Light under the mutineer Getaway’s command, as opposed to being rescued by the time-traveling Necrobot. I was in a bit of a bind when MTMTE ended, because it ended on the mother of all cliffhangers: the main cast, and the planet on which they’d been left stranded by Getaway, had apparently blown up. So, they were dead, their ship had been stolen, they were falling behind on their quest … I had an obligation with Lost Light to pick up where I’d left off, but it was far from a neat jumping on point for new readers. Anode, being a totally new character – and someone who was unfamiliar with our regulars and their backstory – was my way of re-introducing all the series’ key concepts without it being too clunky."

This is very interesting. I just knew Revolution and the title change had fucked up things somehow and this demonstrates exactly how.


"After the Dissolution arc we’re following a smaller group of characters to a place we’ve mentioned more than once but never actually visited,” according to Roberts. “After that, we catch up with Getaway and his fellow mutineers – the titular Lost Light finally makes an appearance."

Hey D-max~
Re: IDW Lost Light #4 Full Preview (1871912)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on April 5th, 2017 @ 10:27am CDT
About damn time too.

Though I don't have any idea what he means by "place we've mentioned multiple times before" at the moment.
Re: IDW Lost Light #4 Full Preview (1871915)
Posted by Kurona on April 5th, 2017 @ 10:29am CDT
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:About damn time too.

Though I don't have any idea what he means by "place we've mentioned multiple times before" at the moment.

It's totally gonna be the Scavengers and Fort Max's crew teaming up to find and destroy the Nightmare Engine. Calling it
Re: IDW Lost Light #4 Full Preview (1872050)
Posted by ScottyP on April 5th, 2017 @ 5:41pm CDT
Kurona wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:About damn time too.

Though I don't have any idea what he means by "place we've mentioned multiple times before" at the moment.

It's totally gonna be the Scavengers and Fort Max's crew teaming up to find and destroy the Nightmare Engine. Calling it
Hydrus V gets my vote. Did Brainstorm really take out a star with his briefcase? Probably not.
Re: IDW Lost Light #4 Full Preview (1872058)
Posted by Kurona on April 5th, 2017 @ 5:52pm CDT
ScottyP wrote:
Kurona wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:About damn time too.

Though I don't have any idea what he means by "place we've mentioned multiple times before" at the moment.

It's totally gonna be the Scavengers and Fort Max's crew teaming up to find and destroy the Nightmare Engine. Calling it
Hydrus V gets my vote. Did Brainstorm really take out a star with his briefcase? Probably not.

Very true... heck, there's a lot of places we've heard of a ton of times. This comic is the perfect setting to be vague about this.
Re: IDW Lost Light #4 Full Preview (1874224)
Posted by Va'al on April 13th, 2017 @ 8:47am CDT
Via PreviewsWorld, we have some nice art to tide over the (delayed) wait for the next issue of Transformers: Lost Light #5 - now due on 10th May - in the form of variant covers! Mirrored below, you can find the Nick Roche / Josh Burcham Anode centric cover, and the Alex Milne / Josh Perez Functionist Dredd-esque enforcers. Check them out, along with clean line art from Milne, too!

It's TEAM RODIMUS versus a universe gone wrong! An alternate Cybertron is being torn apart as the malevolent Functionist Council implement a plan that's been millions of years in the making. But with victory within their reach, they find themselves up against someone who really shouldn't exist: MEGATRON.


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Re: IDW Lost Light #4 Full Preview (1874608)
Posted by Va'al on April 15th, 2017 @ 6:12am CDT
We have another variant cover for IDW Publishing's Transformers: Lost Light #5, in addition to the Milne/Perez and Roche/Burcham ones, thanks again to PreviewsWorld - take a look below at the Jin Kim art featuring Ultra Magnus, Nautica and Drift, with a floating Rodimus head in the background!

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Re: IDW Lost Light #4 Full Preview (1874610)
Posted by Sebfolgero on April 15th, 2017 @ 6:19am CDT
Speaking of comics, I just found combiner wars revised wave 6 on the pegs in Norway with the Idw comics. Last time I looked in the store there was almost no figures left but now there was a ton all on sale with comics
Re: IDW Lost Light #4 Full Preview (1874622)
Posted by Kurona on April 15th, 2017 @ 8:58am CDT
I want to frame this and hang it up somewhere. Beautiful art featuring some of the best characters :)
Re: IDW Lost Light #4 Full Preview (1877496)
Posted by Kurona on April 26th, 2017 @ 5:36pm CDT
Straight from his Twitter account, comic writer James Roberts has tweeted a couple of panels featuring Nightbeat and Rung from the fifth issue of Lost Light, due for release next month. Check out the little snippet of character development below and tell us what you think in the forums!

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Re: IDW Lost Light #4 Full Preview (1877526)
Posted by Kurona on April 26th, 2017 @ 7:31pm CDT
As it turns out, not long after James Roberts tweeted two panels of the comic, the preview of Lost Light's fifth issue has been put up on itunes! Have a look below and tell us what you think in the forums.

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Re: IDW Lost Light #4 Full Preview (1877529)
Posted by Randomhero on April 26th, 2017 @ 7:40pm CDT
I hate to say it but I've lost so much interest in this series. Mtmte is a series I've always had a love/hate relationship with but with where it's gone and where it's going with this story I've just become "oh yeah we haven't gotten an issue this month" or "well there's an issue coming out. I grab it when I'm free" I wish I could be more excited but I'm just not anymore.
Re: IDW Lost Light #4 Full Preview (1877537)
Posted by Kurona on April 26th, 2017 @ 8:03pm CDT
I must admit - and since this is my favourite series and it's had such a big impact on my life, this is hard to admit - the current arc has been a bit weak, unfocused and all over the place imo. Things seem to happen without any lead-in, we jump from point to point without any time devoted to a subject and it's been a little hard to follow. It's not terrible per se, it's still a fine plot and certain things like Anode and the geo-bomb (and Brainstorm squealing!!) shine through to me, but it's not quite up to par as MTMTE was.

However... that said, while this doesn't excuse everything, I'm kinda putting this down to forced editorial mandates. It just so happens that a plot that's... well, as I just described; arguably a drop in quality, happens right when they're forced to restart the numbering, essentially tasked with bringing in new readership and the creative team is reshuffled? I'm not familiar with how everything works, but I don't think this was a good thing for the comic and I think if we'd gotten MTMTE #58 instead of LL #1, things would have been different. That's why I've been a bit easier on this than I really should be; maybe it's me being a bit too optimistic or biased, but I can't look at the negatives of the comic recently, compare it to how incredible MTMTE was and not look towards the editorial mandates.

Also, Nightbeat and Rung. That's reeling me back in as that little talk between them is looking very interesting and Nightbeat's showing his nicer side.
Re: IDW Lost Light #4 Full Preview (1877542)
Posted by Randomhero on April 26th, 2017 @ 8:31pm CDT
The renumbering and renaming doesn't bother me. I've been reading comics since I was 6 and it's something you have to just get adjusted to. This wasnt batman or Spider-Man getting in the 700s and 800s and going back it issue one, it was issue 56 and then changing. Wasn't that big of a deal.

My biggest issue has always been and will always be unless it changes is that Roberts writes this like a television show and not a comic book and those are two very different medias. The structure is an utter mess at times. The ideas and characterization have always been its strengths where as it's structure has always been something to be desired. I'm not going to go as far as some and accuse James of writing knock off red dwarf fan fiction but it's hard not to see it. I've talked to James, he's a great guy but I wish he'd work on his storytelling and grow from it instead of making tongue and cheek remarks from characters in the book like hes done a bit whenever "community" was referenced.

I used to get furious for so long at this series because it never does anything with the quest and I finally gave up by season 2 because there wasn't a single issue in those 2 and half years that actually had any form of progress with the quest. They got a map halfway but we had to have more deviations. James said with lost light he's making the quest priority. Now we know for the next few months thanks to solicits and probably for the rest of the year we will be in functionalist universe and all I can do is toss my hands in the air and ask "well why did you even say that James?"

He said it a few times in interviews and podcasts by the way.
Re: IDW Lost Light #4 Full Preview (1877561)
Posted by ScottyP on April 26th, 2017 @ 9:47pm CDT
Primus bless, this fandom turned on this book faster than it took to type this sentence.

I loved everything in those three pages and just cannot wait for more. Y'all go have your 'We want Milne and plot resolution' pity party, I'll be over here with my robot pals enjoying the ride :POPCORN:
Re: IDW Lost Light #4 Full Preview (1877571)
Posted by bodrock on April 26th, 2017 @ 11:00pm CDT
I miss Milne's art, no doubt, but I'm also enjoying the ride! I'm sure Roddy will get his ship back and they'll be back on track....eventually. :BOT:
Re: IDW Lost Light #4 Full Preview (1877601)
Posted by Kurona on April 27th, 2017 @ 5:36am CDT
I actually really like the art myself. I still prefer Milne and think he's a better fit, but it's not like Lawrence is a slouch or anything; he's a fantastic artist and in my opinion he works well for the comic.
Re: IDW Lost Light #4 Full Preview (1877606)
Posted by Randomhero on April 27th, 2017 @ 6:09am CDT
I too like jacks art. It's very Early 2000s Nick Roche meets Guido Guidi. It's got that classic looks with a little exaggerated proportions.
Re: IDW Lost Light #4 Full Preview (1877613)
Posted by Big Grim on April 27th, 2017 @ 7:24am CDT
ScottyP wrote:I loved everything in those three pages and just cannot wait for more. Y'all go have your 'We want Milne and plot resolution' pity party, I'll be over here with my robot pals enjoying the ride :POPCORN:

I'm with you Scotty. I'm having a blast with Lost Light and will continue to enjoy it.

Kurona wrote:I actually really like the art myself. I still prefer Milne and think he's a better fit, but it's not like Lawrence is a slouch or anything; he's a fantastic artist and in my opinion he works well for the comic.

Pretty much exactly how I feel too. Lawrence is doing a great job in my opinion.
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Posted by Randomhero on April 27th, 2017 @ 8:37am CDT
Is Alex not returning at all? I know he's doing that miniseries with John and Josh Perez but wasn't Alex suppose to return for the next arc and then Jack would do the one after?
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Posted by ScottyP on April 27th, 2017 @ 11:28am CDT
Randomhero wrote:Is Alex not returning at all? I know he's doing that miniseries with John and Josh Perez but wasn't Alex suppose to return for the next arc and then Jack would do the one after?
That may indeed have been the initial plan (or it was smoke and mirrors for PR reasons, who knows) but with Milne on ROM vs TF it's a safe bet this plan has changed. Until further notice I'm operating under the assumption that Lawrence is to Lost Light as Pitre-Durocher is to TAAO and as Zama is to OP.
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Posted by ricemazter on April 27th, 2017 @ 3:50pm CDT
Randomhero wrote:The renumbering and renaming doesn't bother me. I've been reading comics since I was 6 and it's something you have to just get adjusted to. This wasnt batman or Spider-Man getting in the 700s and 800s and going back it issue one, it was issue 56 and then changing. Wasn't that big of a deal.

My biggest issue has always been and will always be unless it changes is that Roberts writes this like a television show and not a comic book and those are two very different medias. The structure is an utter mess at times. The ideas and characterization have always been its strengths where as it's structure has always been something to be desired. I'm not going to go as far as some and accuse James of writing knock off red dwarf fan fiction but it's hard not to see it. I've talked to James, he's a great guy but I wish he'd work on his storytelling and grow from it instead of making tongue and cheek remarks from characters in the book like hes done a bit whenever "community" was referenced.

I used to get furious for so long at this series because it never does anything with the quest and I finally gave up by season 2 because there wasn't a single issue in those 2 and half years that actually had any form of progress with the quest. They got a map halfway but we had to have more deviations. James said with lost light he's making the quest priority. Now we know for the next few months thanks to solicits and probably for the rest of the year we will be in functionalist universe and all I can do is toss my hands in the air and ask "well why did you even say that James?"

He said it a few times in interviews and podcasts by the way.


That's interesting because I seems to me he has started writing things more like a comic, just not in a good way. One of the best things about Roberts' writing in the early MTMTE was that it was episodic, so we would get a more or less complete mini story in one or two issues, unlike other modern series where every single issue would end on a vital to the current plot cliffhanger. At the same time, each episode would lead into the next more or less, like when the fall out from Fort Max's therapy session lead into the next issue or the lead into the spark eater story.

It was annoying that the whole quest thing was a loose framework to hang the story on, but as long as the individual episodes were decent I could deal with it. Ever since season 1 ended, however, plots have gradually gotten more drawn out in some areas and severely truncated in others, and in some cases the payoff for the episodic stories don't have immediate consequences until a few issues later. For instance, the way I saw it, the episode with Froid and Sunder's main point was Skids' memories which doesn't come into play until the ending bits of Dying int the Light. This makes the lack of quest progress even more noticeable in the grand scheme of the series.

Now, as of LL, we're in full comic mode. Where the Functionist universe plot seems to be going on for 6 issues, and has almost nothing to do with the main threads introduced in the last series. Meanwhile, in just these 4 issues of LL, we've gotten so many new plot points to deal with, and it's infuriating that none of them are related to the quest or the Lost Light Mutiny, imo one of the most interesting things that happened in the last season.

To count every new thing that's been introduced, trapped in the Functionist universe, embroiled in the conflict of said universe, possible addiction to mood altering drugs for several characters, tailgate going nuts, whatever is going on with Anode, swerve and ten displaced to somewhere else entirely, future visions of pharma doing something. It's super exhausting.
Re: IDW Lost Light #4 Full Preview (1877769)
Posted by Kurona on April 27th, 2017 @ 3:53pm CDT
In what is a rather strange turn of events, the preview pages of Lost Light #5 posted before were not pages 1 through 3; but in fact pages 2 through 4. For reasons not quite clear - possibly an uploading error on iTunes' part - only pages 2 through 4 appear on iTunes' website without Page 1. However, Twitter user Lucrecia Souviron reports that when she downloaded the preview to her iPod, page 1 showed up. While we'll try to get a clearer image later, enjoy Lucrecia's screenshot of the true Lost Light #5 Page 1 below - which notably includes the two panels James Roberts had previously tweeted - along with the three pages previously newsed and tell us what you think of this strange turn of events in the forums.

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Posted by Kurona on April 27th, 2017 @ 3:56pm CDT
So, uh, yeah; this is weird.

I did kind of have my doubts before - Nightbeat and Rung's conversation having no lead-in especially with James Roberts' tweet; Rodimus being electrocuted seeming an odd way to start the issue for reasons I can't quite explain - but I didn't quite expect this. Mistakes happen I suppose; nice to see that the issue is built much more competently than I previously thought. All my previous criticisms - at least in regards to this particular issue - go out the window :)
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Posted by Deadput on April 27th, 2017 @ 5:31pm CDT
When is Lost Light actually going to go back to the Lost Light?

Probably going to take 10 years to finally reach the knights at this pace.

Will Rodimus actually grow up and will we get character's who don't joke in every other line?

Are we getting Milne back you know an actually good artist?
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Posted by Kurona on April 27th, 2017 @ 5:35pm CDT
Deadput wrote:When is Lost Light actually going to go back to the Lost Light?

Probably going to take 10 years to finally reach the knights at this pace.

Will Rodimus actually grow up and will we get character's who don't joke in every other line?

Are we getting Milne back you know an actually good artist?

We're going back to look at the Lost Light in a few issues as confirmed by Roberts, Rodimus' character is actually growing and Lawrence is a fine artist. I can understand why many feel his art style doesn't fit the book (a lot of people have said it's a bit too cartoony for the tone of the comic; I disagree with it myself but the criticism does make sense) and I can certainly understand preferring Milne for the comic, but in what way is Lawrence's art bad? Because personally I'm seeing some gorgeous lineart. Well, gorgeous lineart a little obscured by the image quality because iTunes previews do that for some reason; but gorgeous lineart nonetheless.
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Posted by SG Roadbuster on April 27th, 2017 @ 6:53pm CDT
Kurona wrote:
Deadput wrote:When is Lost Light actually going to go back to the Lost Light?

Probably going to take 10 years to finally reach the knights at this pace.

Will Rodimus actually grow up and will we get character's who don't joke in every other line?

Are we getting Milne back you know an actually good artist?

We're going back to look at the Lost Light in a few issues as confirmed by Roberts, Rodimus' character is actually growing and Lawrence is a fine artist. I can understand why many feel his art style doesn't fit the book (a lot of people have said it's a bit too cartoony for the tone of the comic; I disagree with it myself but the criticism does make sense) and I can certainly understand preferring Milne for the comic, but in what way is Lawrence's art bad? Because personally I'm seeing some gorgeous lineart. Well, gorgeous lineart a little obscured by the image quality because iTunes previews do that for some reason; but gorgeous lineart nonetheless.


could be worse, idw could be letting Livio Ramondelli ruin this book, the way he's ruined so many others.
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Posted by SureShot18 on April 27th, 2017 @ 7:10pm CDT
I'll admit something has felt off to me but I figured it was just that this is the first arc I've read issue by issue and not in a set of 5 books in a volume. I still really enjoy LL and Issue 3 was excellent in particular.

I'd argue that Lawrence is a little too cartoony for the tone of the book but he still has really good art. It took some getting used to but I like it.

Should they get back to the LL ,deal with the mutineers, and continue the quest? Absolutely but I've always seen MTMTE/LL as a book mostly for the characters and exRID/TAAO/OP as the plot based books. And besides, if they finished the quest where would my favorite TF fiction be?

They have thrown a lot at us since the re numbering but in due time all of the loose ends will be tied up. I can wait a while for that too, keeps continuity and shows that there are plans in place for the future.

We'll all know whether this arc has been useless or not in due time. And I'd bet it won't be useless at all. Some consider Swearth to be the bottom of the barrel and I actually like it but I also read it in the volume format.

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