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IDW Hasbro Comics Crossover: Revolution - Road to Revolution and Reading Order

Transformers News: IDW Hasbro Comics Crossover: Revolution - Road to Revolution and Reading Order

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With (some versions) of Transformers: Till All Are One #2, a short story part of Road to Revolution has started setting the grounds for Action Man and G.I. Joe's roles in the wide IDW crossover of its Hasbro franchises - Revolution. [Other readers found a preview for ROM the Spaceknight #1, instead.] If you have read the short extract, let us know what you make of it in the Energon Pub!

Meanwhile, we also have the reading list for Revolution as it happens, this coming September. Check it out below.

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Re: IDW Hasbro Comics Crossover: Revolution - Road to Revolution and Reading Order (1803930)
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 8th, 2016 @ 5:16am CDT
Hopefully IDW have have been paying attention to Marvel/DC and the newest kid in the block in comic terms, Valiant, in how to handle shared universe.

I personally love shared universes, where it always feels like something is happening but communication between those working on the comics is key.i also reject the notion it hampers creativity as there is always a way.

In fact it takes great skill to pull something like this off, and have it work. Saying that, I hope they keep mega events to a minimum instead of the marvel/Dc method of one a year.
Re: IDW Hasbro Comics Crossover: Revolution - Road to Revolution and Reading Order (1803936)
Posted by Randomhero on July 8th, 2016 @ 6:47am CDT
Well it will all be run by John Barber. He is the master of continuity, whether it's retconning stuff to make sense or just making sure what's happened isn't forgotten so I'd say this is all in good hands. The 4 page preview in the back of till all are one this week gave me enough trust to believe that everything will be alright.

People just need to calm down and stop thinking that gijoe will be in every mask comic or mask will be in every issue of transformers or Rom will be in every mtmte and everything in between. That's not how it's going to go. Will there be cameos? Yes, big epic events with everyone probably. Will it ruin everything? No, only person that can do that is the fans that think it will.
Re: IDW Hasbro Comics Crossover: Revolution - Road to Revolution and Reading Order (1803958)
Posted by Va'al on July 8th, 2016 @ 8:46am CDT
Yes, that short piece was good enough to do a 'we were really busy doing things, ok?' set-up for the non-involvement of the Joe universe in the ation/AHM era. And nice sliding into the EDC, too.

Who do you think the off panel voice is?
Re: IDW Hasbro Comics Crossover: Revolution - Road to Revolution and Reading Order (1803962)
Posted by Randomhero on July 8th, 2016 @ 9:17am CDT
I've only read transformers from IDW and my only speculation is Hunter. I don't know a lot of about GI joes IDW universe except from the broken summaries on Wikipedia(always promised to buy the trades but never did) so if I had to speculate it's Hunter. Not to quote Star Wars but he's machine than man by the end so I could believe that he was brought back very quickly after sideswipe turned off his support once he was found.
Re: IDW Hasbro Comics Crossover: Revolution - Road to Revolution and Reading Order (1806483)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on July 18th, 2016 @ 9:54am CDT
From Preview World we get another look into the upcoming Revolution storyline that is about to span several different IDW storylines, this time in the form of an interview with artist Fico Ossio, who will be the artist for the main Revolution titled comics, which will be released starting in September. Head to the site for the full interview by clicking the link above.

PREVIEWSworld: Tell us what you’re on point to do for Revolution. What creative chores have you accepted?

Fico Ossio: I´m doing pencils and ink. And I get to do the characters redesigns, for all the G.I. Joes. And I´m having the first crack at the M.A.S.K. vehicles, which is awesome. I used to own all the toys.

I took some liberties with the Transformers, as well as Action Man. It does all serve the purpose to have them all stand together and have a cohesive look.
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Posted by Va'al on July 25th, 2016 @ 1:59pm CDT
From the technicolour wizard Josh Burcham over on Twitter, we have a clean look at the Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye Revolution tie-in issue cover variant - Nick Roche on the lines, Burcham on the colours of course - due this November (check out the full timeline in the update over here). Feast your optics on Grimlock, a M.A.S.K. character... and ROM the Spaceknight. (In colour and process images!)

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Re: IDW Hasbro Comics Crossover: Revolution - Road to Revolution and Reading Order (1809033)
Posted by Kurona on July 25th, 2016 @ 2:05pm CDT
Nice to see they're having a bit of fun with it.
If Grimlock's in it a little, I guess we're seeing the Scavengers at some point?
Re: IDW Hasbro Comics Crossover: Revolution - Road to Revolution and Reading Order (1809036)
Posted by Ironhidensh on July 25th, 2016 @ 2:10pm CDT
I think the M.A.S.K. agent is Ace Riker.
Re: IDW Hasbro Comics Crossover: Revolution - Road to Revolution and Reading Order (1809039)
Posted by Va'al on July 25th, 2016 @ 2:12pm CDT
Kurona wrote:Nice to see they're having a bit of fun with it.
If Grimlock's in it a little, I guess we're seeing the Scavengers at some point?


You made me go look for an article - which turns out wasn't posted! Working on it now, but yes, the Scavengers are the focus of the Revolution MTMTE issue.
Re: IDW Hasbro Comics Crossover: Revolution - Road to Revolution and Reading Order (1809047)
Posted by Va'al on July 25th, 2016 @ 2:22pm CDT
Dr Va'al wrote:
Kurona wrote:Nice to see they're having a bit of fun with it.
If Grimlock's in it a little, I guess we're seeing the Scavengers at some point?


You made me go look for an article - which turns out wasn't posted! Working on it now, but yes, the Scavengers are the focus of the Revolution MTMTE issue.


Said article: http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/ ... iew/35965/

James Roberts: Well, MTMTE gets in on the action with a Revolution tie-in featuring the Scavengers, who are kind of the alternative main cast. That’s an Earth-based story. Nick Roche and I are co-writing for the first time since 2010’s Last Stand of the Wreckers, so even if we weren’t getting an opportunity to pit the world’s worst Decepticons against the likes of MASK and GI Joe, it would still feel like an event for us.
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Posted by MGrotusque on July 26th, 2016 @ 12:38am CDT
I really dislike the image of ROM layin down some laser fire on Grimlock. I'd like to think those two dudes would get along.
Re: IDW Hasbro Comics Crossover: Revolution - Road to Revolution and Reading Order (1809811)
Posted by Va'al on July 28th, 2016 @ 9:04am CDT
Artist Fico Ossio, who will be providing the main linework for the upcoming Revolution event (though not the single series issues) has been sharing on his DeviantART some teaser peeks at his black and white artwork in preparation for the big thing - featuring Transformers, Action Man, Micronauts and soon M.A.S.K. joining the roster. Check them out below, as Optimus features twice, too!

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Re: IDW Hasbro Comics Crossover: Revolution - Road to Revolution and Reading Order (1810033)
Posted by o.supreme on July 28th, 2016 @ 5:08pm CDT
Gretings All...

ok so I just got my monthly comics. Please forgive me but after looking at the schedule for Revolution...I am totally confused. I've been trying to keep up with the articles, but apparently I haven't been doing a good job.

I know that in Sept both the self titled TF & MTMTE will stop at #57 and the next month, October with Revolution go back to #1 (MTMTE will be renamed "The Lost Light"). But will the "Revolution" be each titles #1, or are there Revolution #1's, and individual TF #1's ...(if that makes sense).

Also...is TAAO going to reset after only 4 issues?...seems kind of silly, but oh well.

I know I probably am putting myself through more trouble than its worth, but I am a fan of linear continuity. all these stupid restarts always get on my nerves. IN my world, the Titans return one shot is issue #300 of an ongoing series, and for the most part I've been able to keep track despite all the curveballs that IDW throws, but this one has me perplexed. Its nice they are always providing jumping on points for new fans, but I guess they really don't think much of us that have been around since Infiltration #0 .

If anyone can list it all out for me, this would be appreciated. Also, is it just me or does it seem the timing of Revolution is a bit off. This would have been a good thing to start in January 2017, when both ongoings had a solid 5 year run behind them, and Titans Return could have been fleshed out a bit more rather than forced through 5 issues.
Re: IDW Hasbro Comics Crossover: Revolution - Road to Revolution and Reading Order (1810046)
Posted by Va'al on July 28th, 2016 @ 6:00pm CDT
o.supreme wrote:Gretings All...

ok so I just got my monthly comics. Please forgive me but after looking at the schedule for Revolution...I am totally confused. I've been trying to keep up with the articles, but apparently I haven't been doing a good job.

I know that in Sept both the self titled TF & MTMTE will stop at #57 and the next month, October with Revolution go back to #1 (MTMTE will be renamed "The Lost Light"). But will the "Revolution" be each titles #1, or are there Revolution #1's, and individual TF #1's ...(if that makes sense).

Also...is TAAO going to reset after only 4 issues?...seems kind of silly, but oh well.

I know I probably am putting myself through more trouble than its worth, but I am a fan of linear continuity. all these stupid restarts always get on my nerves. IN my world, the Titans return one shot is issue #300 of an ongoing series, and for the most part I've been able to keep track despite all the curveballs that IDW throws, but this one has me perplexed. Its nice they are always providing jumping on points for new fans, but I guess they really don't think much of us that have been around since Infiltration #0 .

If anyone can list it all out for me, this would be appreciated. Also, is it just me or does it seem the timing of Revolution is a bit off. This would have been a good thing to start in January 2017, when both ongoings had a solid 5 year run behind them, and Titans Return could have been fleshed out a bit more rather than forced through 5 issues.


From what we know so far:

- MTMTE ends in title as such with #57, part of Titans Return, with The Transformers.
- Revolution is a 5 issue event, with TAAO, TF and MTMTE each having an extra issue by themselves as tie-ins to the main Revolution issues. They will be TAAO Revolution #1, TF Revolution #1 and MTMTE Revolution #1. This is not the beginning of the renumbering!
- Post-Revolution, MTMTE becomes Lost Light #1 (instead of MTMTE #58; Roberts still considers it the same book), TF becomes Optimus Prime #1 (instead of TF#58), TAAO - as far as we know - goes back to its numbering pre Revolution, so from #5 onwards.

Does that make more sense?
Re: IDW Hasbro Comics Crossover: Revolution - Road to Revolution and Reading Order (1810314)
Posted by o.supreme on July 29th, 2016 @ 9:14am CDT
Thank You. Yes it makes sense in that now I know what to look for at my local shop, and wont be missing any issues. It still doesn't make sens from a business point of view, but whatever. They can number the issues however they want. I just wish maybe in the inside, maybe even on the back page they could put a number in the corner like #301, #302 etc...for those of us that are keeping an overall tab on things. ;)

So...Basically Titans Return is 5 issues (The Titans Return one shot plus MTMTE #56, 57, and TF #56 & 57) . And TAAO #3 and 4 are basically doing there own thing...you'd think it would be part of Titan wars as well but...


Oh and one more question... So...for example in October will there be a TF MTMTE Revolution #1 AND Lost Light #1, or will TF MTMTE Revolution #1 be October, then Lost Light #1 in November?
Re: IDW Hasbro Comics Crossover: Revolution - Road to Revolution and Reading Order (1810324)
Posted by Va'al on July 29th, 2016 @ 9:22am CDT
o.supreme wrote:Thank You. Yes it makes sense in that now I know what to look for at my local shop, and wont be missing any issues. It still doesn't make sens from a business point of view, but whatever. They can number the issues however they want. I just wish maybe in the inside, maybe even on the back page they could put a number in the corner like #301, #302 etc...for those of us that are keeping an overall tab on things. ;)

So...Basically Titans Return is 5 issues (The Titans Return one shot plus MTMTE #56, 57, and TF #56 & 57) . And TAAO #3 and 4 are basically doing there own thing...you'd think it would be part of Titan wars as well but...


Oh and one more question... So...for example in October will there be a TF MTMTE Revolution #1 AND Lost Light #1, or will TF MTMTE Revolution #1 be October, then Lost Light #1 in November?


I posted the schedule somewhere... aha! Here: the-transformers-idwverse-a-chronology-t105238s25.php#p1808899. In any case:

- Road to Revolution hits in September.
- Revolution runs from September to November. MTMTErev#1 is November, TF and TAAO are October.
- Lost Light starts in December.

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Re: IDW Hasbro Comics Crossover: Revolution - Road to Revolution and Reading Order (1810338)
Posted by o.supreme on July 29th, 2016 @ 9:39am CDT
Dr Va'al wrote:- Lost Light starts in December.


Thanks. sadly it was seeing that schedule in the first place that started all the confusion for me. It shows all the Revolution titles, but doesn't give clarity as to when the regular TF books start up again, or if they are occurring in the same months.

So will Optimus Prime #1 and TAAO #5 start back up again in November or December? I still say if they had waited until January this all would have been a lot easier. :lol: .
Re: IDW Hasbro Comics Crossover: Revolution - Road to Revolution and Reading Order (1812040)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 4th, 2016 @ 10:39am CDT
Scavengers in Revolution... oh this will be a fun ride!
Re: IDW Hasbro Comics Crossover: Revolution - Road to Revolution and Reading Order (1812176)
Posted by Tyrannacon on August 4th, 2016 @ 3:42pm CDT
I'm kind of skeptical of the wider Hasbro Universe fitting in with Transformers. I mean G.I. Joe is one thing, but eh. I'll try it though and hope for the best. At least it's not My Little Pony or Jem trying to be shoe-horned in. I still have nightmares about Megatron from TFP being a brony. :P
Re: IDW Hasbro Comics Crossover: Revolution - Road to Revolution and Reading Order (1814513)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 11th, 2016 @ 11:16pm CDT
IDW Publishing has now placed orders for Revolution: Issue #00 on their website! Revolution is set to be the big crossover between several major IDW storylines and characters, including our beloved Transformers, GI Joe, M.A.S.K., Action Man, Micronauts, and ROM! Check out the comic by clicking the above link! We've included the synopsis for issue #00 for you to read up on while you're waiting on the download.

THE REVOLUTION BEGINS! Explosions rip across the Earth—and all signs of blame point to OPTIMUS PRIME and the TRANSFORMERS! G.I. JOE refuses to go quietly—and they assemble heroes big enough to stop the invaders! ACTION MAN and M.A.S.K. fight for humanity—but where do ROM and the MICRONAUTS stand? Celebrating more than a decade of stories by IDW and HASBRO, this unprecedented bi-weekly event draws everything together—and leaves nothing standing. The REVOLUTION is here—TAKE A STAND!
Re: IDW Hasbro Comics Crossover: Revolution - Road to Revolution and Reading Order (1814518)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 11th, 2016 @ 11:29pm CDT
With Issue #00 ready for download, Issue #1 is ready to give us a preview into what is to come in Revolution! This Preview comes from Comic Book Resources, and has been mirrored below for your enjoyment. Included in the preview are: The 8-page preview that was available in various Transformers comics last month, the 8 different covers, and the first 6 pages.

Check it out!

THE REVOLUTION BEGINS! Explosions rip across the Earth—and all signs of blame point to OPTIMUS PRIME and the TRANSFORMERS! G.I. JOE refuses to go quietly—and they assemble heroes big enough to stop the invaders! ACTION MAN and M.A.S.K. fight for humanity—but where do ROM and the MICRONAUTS stand? Celebrating more than a decade of stories by IDW and HASBRO, this unprecedented bi-weekly event draws everything together—and leaves nothing standing. The REVOLUTION is here—TAKE A STAND!


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Re: IDW Hasbro Comics Crossover: Revolution - Road to Revolution and Reading Order (1814526)
Posted by primalxconvoy on August 12th, 2016 @ 12:42am CDT
Thanks again to Seibertron for uploading the pictures! TFW2005, as usual just gave a link to the (unreachable) IDW and that was it. Plus, then there is the hassle of trying to open a very large PDF file.

However, it was an absolute bugger to download these pictures. Server problems?
Re: IDW Hasbro Comics Crossover: Revolution - Road to Revolution and Reading Order (1814528)
Posted by ZeroWolf on August 12th, 2016 @ 1:29am CDT
Interesting, this looks like it may actually be quite fun :-)
Re: IDW Hasbro Comics Crossover: Revolution - Road to Revolution and Reading Order (1814543)
Posted by SW's SilverHammer on August 12th, 2016 @ 5:23am CDT
Is this like the first time since the 84 marvel run, that the transformers have been in Portland?
Re: IDW Hasbro Comics Crossover: Revolution - Road to Revolution and Reading Order (1814567)
Posted by Kurona on August 12th, 2016 @ 7:15am CDT
Is that Skywarp what have those bastards done to Skywarp
Re: IDW Hasbro Comics Crossover: Revolution - Road to Revolution and Reading Order (1814570)
Posted by Big Grim on August 12th, 2016 @ 7:23am CDT
Who was that strung up? Some of the colours are making me think Blitzwing but I don't believe it's him.
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Posted by Randomhero on August 12th, 2016 @ 7:26am CDT
SW's SilverHammer wrote:Is this like the first time since the 84 marvel run, that the transformers have been in Portland?



No. The decepticicons infiltration base was buried in the side of a mountain in Oregon during the entire -ation run by IDW.
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Posted by Dr. Caelus on August 12th, 2016 @ 7:31am CDT
Big Grim wrote:Who was that strung up? Some of the colours are making me think Blitzwing but I don't believe it's him.


Astrotrain, I think.

Edit: I say that because events in the story would line up right, but comparing pictures, it looks very little like Astrotrain.
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Posted by Kurona on August 12th, 2016 @ 7:44am CDT
According to TFWiki it is Blitzwing; shock of being de-combined from Galvatronus knocking him out and sending him ashore.
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Posted by ebonyleopard on August 12th, 2016 @ 8:09am CDT
Ah, there's nothing like making you dislike G.I.Joe over Transformers more. Please continue. :D
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Posted by Big Grim on August 12th, 2016 @ 8:12am CDT
Kurona wrote:According to TFWiki it is Blitzwing; shock of being de-combined from Galvatronus knocking him out and sending him ashore.


Seems possible and that yellow head is what made me think it in the first place.
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Posted by Rodimus Prime on August 12th, 2016 @ 8:18am CDT
I wasn't going to give this a chance, due to not caring about any of the other characters besides the Transformers, but this art is beautiful. If the story is halfway decent, I'll keep up with it. Still, can't wait until Lost Light debuts.
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Posted by Randomhero on August 12th, 2016 @ 8:38am CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:I wasn't going to give this a chance, due to not caring about any of the other characters besides the Transformers, but this art is beautiful. If the story is halfway decent, I'll keep up with it. Still, can't wait until Lost Light debuts.


It should be good and it's heavily based on what has happened in transformers
Re: IDW Hasbro Comics Crossover: Revolution - Road to Revolution and Reading Order (1814602)
Posted by 1984forever on August 12th, 2016 @ 9:47am CDT
It's just Transformers v GI Joe all over again with Mask thrown in. Transformers has hundreds of it's own unexplored characters with bios already written on them. For a writer this is basically a manual on how to use the character. Thousands of stories can be written about how one Transformers personality and abilities plays off another on one of the many backdrops in the vast TF universe. Transformers doesn't need Mask, GI Joe, Rom or the Micronauts.

I don't know why IDW would even attempt this crossover. They hate to use big casts or even different characters. It's been Optimus vs humans and Jazz getting his chassis smashed on Earth for over two years now along with the same cast of Arcee, Jetfire, Cosmos, Kup and Soundwave.
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Posted by Optimizzy on August 12th, 2016 @ 9:57am CDT
I thought it was scorponok...Im disappointed it's not.
Re: IDW Hasbro Comics Crossover: Revolution - Road to Revolution and Reading Order (1814613)
Posted by Kurona on August 12th, 2016 @ 10:53am CDT
Optimizzy wrote:I thought it was scorponok...Im disappointed it's not.

Well, Magnus did kinda take him into space and imprison him... uh... somewhere.

I do wanna see him eventually return tho. Especially since the random 'cons around the universe need a leader. Not that there's a shortage of candidates right now - Deathsaurus/Nickel, Bludgeon; they could even bring back Sixshot...
Re: IDW Hasbro Comics Crossover: Revolution - Road to Revolution and Reading Order (1814619)
Posted by Randomhero on August 12th, 2016 @ 11:31am CDT
Kurona wrote:
Optimizzy wrote:I thought it was scorponok...Im disappointed it's not.

Well, Magnus did kinda take him into space and imprison him... uh... somewhere.

I do wanna see him eventually return tho. Especially since the random 'cons around the universe need a leader. Not that there's a shortage of candidates right now - Deathsaurus/Nickel, Bludgeon; they could even bring back Sixshot...


Scorponok was imprisoned on Garrus-9 with Shockwave and was meant to have a pivotal role in Last Stand of the Wreckers but was cut out. Since G9 is now decommissioned he's no doubt toting around the Galaxy. I've always assumed he may have been the one that took grimlock off G9 during overlords occupation. He'll show up again eventually.

Bludgeon is still on Cybertron no doubt alive but he's not really a deception anymore. He just big walking ball of crazy nowadays

Sixshot will show up again eventually. If anything that awesome new toy may help with that.
Re: IDW Hasbro Comics Crossover: Revolution - Road to Revolution and Reading Order (1814620)
Posted by Kurona on August 12th, 2016 @ 11:37am CDT
Randomhero wrote:
Kurona wrote:
Optimizzy wrote:I thought it was scorponok...Im disappointed it's not.

Well, Magnus did kinda take him into space and imprison him... uh... somewhere.

I do wanna see him eventually return tho. Especially since the random 'cons around the universe need a leader. Not that there's a shortage of candidates right now - Deathsaurus/Nickel, Bludgeon; they could even bring back Sixshot...


Scorponok was imprisoned on Garrus-9 with Shockwave and was meant to have a pivotal role in Last Stand of the Wreckers but was cut out. Since G9 is now decommissioned he's no doubt toting around the Galaxy. I've always assumed he may have been the one that took grimlock off G9 during overlords occupation. He'll show up again eventually.

Bludgeon is still on Cybertron no doubt alive but he's not really a deception anymore. He just big walking ball of crazy nowadays

Sixshot will show up again eventually. If anything that awesome new toy may help with that.

Personally I just want it to be BW Megatron. It means we get one of the franchise's best characters, we get more Beast Wars stuff, and we won't have to worry about Hasbro asking IDW to turn Megatron into a Decepticon again since we'd have a Megatron in charge. Win-wins all around!
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Posted by ZeroWolf on August 12th, 2016 @ 12:21pm CDT
Kurona wrote:
Randomhero wrote:
Kurona wrote:
Optimizzy wrote:I thought it was scorponok...Im disappointed it's not.

Well, Magnus did kinda take him into space and imprison him... uh... somewhere.

I do wanna see him eventually return tho. Especially since the random 'cons around the universe need a leader. Not that there's a shortage of candidates right now - Deathsaurus/Nickel, Bludgeon; they could even bring back Sixshot...


Scorponok was imprisoned on Garrus-9 with Shockwave and was meant to have a pivotal role in Last Stand of the Wreckers but was cut out. Since G9 is now decommissioned he's no doubt toting around the Galaxy. I've always assumed he may have been the one that took grimlock off G9 during overlords occupation. He'll show up again eventually.

Bludgeon is still on Cybertron no doubt alive but he's not really a deception anymore. He just big walking ball of crazy nowadays

Sixshot will show up again eventually. If anything that awesome new toy may help with that.

Personally I just want it to be BW Megatron. It means we get one of the franchise's best characters, we get more Beast Wars stuff, and we won't have to worry about Hasbro asking IDW to turn Megatron into a Decepticon again since we'd have a Megatron in charge. Win-wins all around!

This^ so this. They could even use megaplex, and go the clone route.
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Posted by ricemazter on August 12th, 2016 @ 2:32pm CDT
Does it feel to anyone else like we've been going through the same song an dance with Transformers and humans for what feels like decades? It's always the humans hate transformers for being big destructive robots, but none of them can learn to tell the difference between good and bad robots despite the entire cybertronian race being color coded for their convenience at this point. Even when in engaged in obvious humanitarian efforts, in populated areas, this kind of thing constantly happens, it seems.

This isn't even a specific comics based problem, the movies are an even worse offender. It's getting tiresome that the automatic human response to the Autobots is to shoot them. There's no dramatic tension to any of it. What would be much more interesting is if there were actual, tense negotiations between the transformers and human leaders with everything becoming complicated due to the involvement of Rom, M.A.S.K, and the Micronauts bringing in more alien shenanigans.
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Posted by Kurona on August 12th, 2016 @ 3:09pm CDT
ricemazter wrote:Does it feel to anyone else like we've been going through the same song an dance with Transformers and humans for what feels like decades? It's always the humans hate transformers for being big destructive robots, but none of them can learn to tell the difference between good and bad robots despite the entire cybertronian race being color coded for their convenience at this point. Even when in engaged in obvious humanitarian efforts, in populated areas, this kind of thing constantly happens, it seems.

This isn't even a specific comics based problem, the movies are an even worse offender. It's getting tiresome that the automatic human response to the Autobots is to shoot them. There's no dramatic tension to any of it. What would be much more interesting is if there were actual, tense negotiations between the transformers and human leaders with everything becoming complicated due to the involvement of Rom, M.A.S.K, and the Micronauts bringing in more alien shenanigans.

To be fair in this specific instance, it makes a lot more sense in IDW where the 'good' and 'evil' robots aren't quite as easily defined. If anything, right now, the way Optimus is acting is VERY good reason to react the way everyone is - he's becoming a bit of a fruit loop honestly.
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Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 12th, 2016 @ 3:37pm CDT
primalxconvoy wrote:Thanks again to Seibertron for uploading the pictures! TFW2005, as usual just gave a link to the (unreachable) IDW and that was it. Plus, then there is the hassle of trying to open a very large PDF file.

However, it was an absolute bugger to download these pictures. Server problems?

This is a massive preview with 26 different pages and covers, so that is why it took so long: massive picture quantities! Believe me, it was a pain.

I am willing to give this a good shot. It looks pretty good, the art is marvelous, and I see potential in the storyline.

And yes that is Blitzwing. Astrotrain kinda got cut up in TF55 and Scorponok is somewhere else
Re: IDW Hasbro Comics Crossover: Revolution - Road to Revolution and Reading Order (1814716)
Posted by Randomhero on August 12th, 2016 @ 5:37pm CDT
ricemazter wrote:Does it feel to anyone else like we've been going through the same song an dance with Transformers and humans for what feels like decades? It's always the humans hate transformers for being big destructive robots, but none of them can learn to tell the difference between good and bad robots despite the entire cybertronian race being color coded for their convenience at this point. Even when in engaged in obvious humanitarian efforts, in populated areas, this kind of thing constantly happens, it seems.

This isn't even a specific comics based problem, the movies are an even worse offender. It's getting tiresome that the automatic human response to the Autobots is to shoot them. There's no dramatic tension to any of it. What would be much more interesting is if there were actual, tense negotiations between the transformers and human leaders with everything becoming complicated due to the involvement of Rom, M.A.S.K, and the Micronauts bringing in more alien shenanigans.



How many instances have humans been against all transformers? The first 20 years were all about how humans and autobots were allies and how it's okay for a city to get pummeled as long as the autobots save the day. Literally this and the movies are pretty much the only circumstances with humans seeing all transformers as an enemy and for totally good reason. The decepticons killed over a billion people in All Hail Megatron and in the ongoing Jazz killed a human(defending bumblebee) and in the movies they wiped out Chicago. I'm sorry but it's realistic. You don't just turn over a say "well the guys with red symbols are the good guys so it's fine" No, they are the same species. It's completely rational to to consider they are all threats especially in IDW when they killed over a billion almost succeeded in conquering the whole planet.

It's less believable to just be okay with it. Optimus announced that an entire planet full of sentient beings is his and his only to protect and grow. He took away their choice and while he means well he's doing this to a generation that survive global genocide.
Re: IDW Hasbro Comics Crossover: Revolution - Road to Revolution and Reading Order (1814719)
Posted by Windsweeper on August 12th, 2016 @ 5:56pm CDT
I always find it hard to believe the level of destruction we're supposed to believe happened in All Hail Megatron.

We only see one city and a handful of Decepticons. Maybe if they went the Dreamwave route and Megatron had a million Air Warriors/Seekers but he didn't.

Everyone complained about the original ongoing and All Hail Megatron as being poorly written and focusing too much on humans.
We're getting the same thing again lately. All 3 arcs featured Spike Witwicky. I wish IDW would learn their lesson and get rid of him.

I wish IDW would get rid of John Barber too.
Re: IDW Hasbro Comics Crossover: Revolution - Road to Revolution and Reading Order (1814720)
Posted by Randomhero on August 12th, 2016 @ 6:05pm CDT
Windsweeper wrote:I always find it hard to believe the level of destruction we're supposed to believe happened in All Hail Megatron.

We only see one city and a handful of Decepticons. Maybe if they went the Dreamwave route and Megatron had a million Air Warriors/Seekers but he didn't.

Everyone complained about the original ongoing and All Hail Megatron as being poorly written and focusing too much on humans.
We're getting the same thing again lately. All 3 arcs featured Spike Witwicky. I wish IDW would learn their lesson and get rid of him.

I wish IDW would get rid of John Barber too.



Washington DC was shown destroyed with air force one burning infront of the Lincoln memorial, th seekers and insecticons were shown in China with skywarp gloating about how he alone wiped out half the city and we saw members of countries in Europe talking about their own attacks. Just because we didn't get scenes of cities didn't mean it wasn't happening. The ongoing, Bumblebee mini and RID ongoing revealed that it wasn't just the 84 cons on earth, there were several groups all across earth attacking and Soundwave was interfering with a lot of communications and technology handicapping earths defenses
Re: IDW Hasbro Comics Crossover: Revolution - Road to Revolution and Reading Order (1814726)
Posted by Sabrblade on August 12th, 2016 @ 6:30pm CDT
Randomhero wrote:How many instances have humans been against all transformers? The first 20 years were all about how humans and autobots were allies and how it's okay for a city to get pummeled as long as the autobots save the day.
In the cartoons, maybe, but it wasn't the same case for the Marvel Comics, in which the U.S. government was in constant odds with the Transformers (Autobots included) for several years before they finally understood the distinction between Autobot and Decepticon. And Circuit Breaker alone had been a constant thorn in the Autobots' side ever since her debut (as Circuit Breaker, that is), what with her irrational hatred of all Transformers and her ceaseless desire to see them all dead.

There was also the Dreamwave G1 comics in which the relationship between the Autobots and humanity was shaky at best, with the U.S. government willing to take direct action against the Transformers, regardless of faction, if the TFs posed a great enough threat to national security.

The cartoons might have kept the Autobots and humanity on relatively good terms, but the comics did pretty much the opposite.
Re: IDW Hasbro Comics Crossover: Revolution - Road to Revolution and Reading Order (1814785)
Posted by ricemazter on August 12th, 2016 @ 10:30pm CDT
Randomhero wrote:How many instances have humans been against all transformers? The first 20 years were all about how humans and autobots were allies and how it's okay for a city to get pummeled as long as the autobots save the day. Literally this and the movies are pretty much the only circumstances with humans seeing all transformers as an enemy and for totally good reason. The decepticons killed over a billion people in All Hail Megatron and in the ongoing Jazz killed a human(defending bumblebee) and in the movies they wiped out Chicago. I'm sorry but it's realistic. You don't just turn over a say "well the guys with red symbols are the good guys so it's fine" No, they are the same species. It's completely rational to to consider they are all threats especially in IDW when they killed over a billion almost succeeded in conquering the whole planet.

It's less believable to just be okay with it. Optimus announced that an entire planet full of sentient beings is his and his only to protect and grow. He took away their choice and while he means well he's doing this to a generation that survive global genocide.


I'm primarily familiar with the comics and movies, not so much the G1 cartoon since that was before my time. The point is that the Decepticons killed a billion people, and it was the Autobots that pushed them back, which has been established that the humans, the government at least, is aware of this fact. In the movies it made even less sense since the government had been working with the Autobots since the end of the the first film and became public knowledge after the the third.

As far as all Hail Optimus goes,I don't remember him engaging in any overt action against humanity beyond making his proclamation and establishing Autobot city. It infuriates me that none of the human leaders ever bother to formally talk with the Autobots. If they had a scene where diplomatic relations actually exist before breaking down, that would alleviate a lot of my gripes.
Re: IDW Hasbro Comics Crossover: Revolution - Road to Revolution and Reading Order (1814813)
Posted by ZeroWolf on August 13th, 2016 @ 2:07am CDT
To be fair, this is very realistic in terms of attitude. We humans have a long way to go before we can stop killing and attacking members of our own species, let alone try to get along with members of an alien race that inflicted huge casualties, yes the autobots pushed them back but do you think that matters to the people who survived that terrible time?

Plus the humans already tried negotiations with Galvatron and Soundwave and we all know how that turned out.

The problem with Prime's plan this time round is that he's assumed control and doesn't seem willing to cede any of it back to the humans in the terms of running things and if they want to be part of a galactic council made up of more cybertonians. At this point I would say mankind has been scarred by alien contact.

I can see why you would be annoyed by the animosity, I really can. Problem is we have been in this situation before, in both positions and we know how it usually goes (I.e. bad for the indigenous)
Re: IDW Hasbro Comics Crossover: Revolution - Road to Revolution and Reading Order (1815404)
Posted by Va'al on August 15th, 2016 @ 3:39am CDT
Starting the week with some variant covers, with more Revolution art to begin with! Courtesy of Tampa Bay Toy Expo, and in collaboration with Read More Comics, the cover below features art by the CAE Studios creative team, and will be available at the event. Check it out!

In partnership with Read More Comics, the Tampa Bay Toy Expo (Tampa, FL) will be offering a unique exclusive designed by the creative team at CAE Studios/Big Pond Comics for our October 1st event. This variant cover for IDW Publishing's REVOLUTION #1, features those classic 1980s properties from Hasbro that many of us grew up with and enjoyed on television each afternoon. Including Transformers, G.I. Joe, M.A.S.K, Micronauts and ROM: The Space Knight; this exclusive is truly 'Beyond Your Wildest Imagination'.

Fans attending the TAMPA BAY TOY EXPO will be able to purchase this exclusive and have it signed by the entire creative team, including Martin Dunn, Javier Lugo and Aly Kat (Dunn).


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Re: IDW Hasbro Comics Crossover: Revolution - Road to Revolution and Reading Order (1815440)
Posted by Sabrblade on August 15th, 2016 @ 9:04am CDT
Alas, if only the Tampa Bay Toy Expo was still a free-to-attend event.

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