Hot Toys TF001 - Optimus Prime (Starscream Version) up for pre-order at BBTS

mooncake623 wrote:BBTS dropped by to let us know that they have put up pre-orders for the new Hot Toys Optimus Prime Starscream Version. Priced at $344.99 it is around 11 inches tall with a shipping weight of over 8 lbs. You can pre-order yours here and let us know what you think of this new non-transforming Optimus Prime by joining the discussion in the Seibertron.com fourms. And remember keep your optics tuned to Seibertron.com for the latest in news and updates, plus the best galleries around!

$350 bucks for a non transforming, weird concept Optimus Prime? Ok...
I know hot toys make good(expensive) toys but someone must have been smoking something when they decided to make this and the Megatron Prime versions.

Siger wrote:
$350 bucks for a non transforming, weird concept Optimus Prime? Ok...
I know hot toys make good(expensive) toys but someone must have been smoking something when they decided to make this and the Megatron Prime versions.

But it's 8 pounds!! so lots of diecast? lol I wonder how hot toy collectors feel about this. I mean they do regularly pay over $300 for those Iron man amours.

mooncake623 wrote:

Siger wrote:
$350 bucks for a non transforming, weird concept Optimus Prime? Ok...
I know hot toys make good(expensive) toys but someone must have been smoking something when they decided to make this and the Megatron Prime versions.

But it's 8 pounds!! so lots of diecast? lol I wonder how hot toy collectors feel about this. I mean they do regularly pay over $300 for those Iron man amours.

Indeed, I didn't even address the 8lb thing... a lot of stuff are gonna break when Scream-Prime accidentally falls from flight. Maybe the Iron Man figures requires a lot more details and engineering than the squarish Optimus. But not being 8lb armors is definitely a good thing.

Siger wrote:
I know hot toys make good(expensive) toys but someone must have been smoking something when they decided to make this and the Megatron Prime versions.

Don't recall the Megatron, but I'd bet someone else's money that this originated from the DoTM/ROTF Prime using Jeftire as parts fodder and someone said "Hey, let's do this in G1 and use Starscream's corpse.

I'm not sure I understand the point of this. I'll probably get it so that I can take pictures of it for all of you but it's definitely not something I'd want for my collection. Let me know when someone starts doing high end Transformers for the collectors market like the G1 Arcee prototype that was never released.

Since when did it become a trend to pay top dollar for non-transforming transformers? (e.g. hot toys, prime 1 studios??)

I rather hasbro put in more effort to release better quality products such as those based on the movie universe. No offence but so far all the releases from the AOE line kinda sucks. Garbage leader class and voyager classes

Dear Takara

Please make a masterpiece version of this it would look really epic

Sincerely,

Autobot tap out

this thing looks great, and the price is a LOT better than i expected.. i thought this thing would run at least $500+.. so that's good.

now.. if they started doing movie figures, i'd buy them in a second. i wish takara would release more DMK's.. those things are absolutely fantastic. but, seriously, movie versions of AOE prime, lockdown, bumblebee, crosshairs, drift, etc would be incredibly awesome and would be perfect for a company like hot toys.

i own a few hot toys figures and they're all fantastic especially the iron man mark 7.. it's just gorgeous.

this thing is most likely being made for hot toys collectors, not only transformers fans. hot toys collectors don't really need this thing to have the ability to transform. plus, if it did transform, i'm sure that alone would add a couple hundred dollars to the price.

the dotm DMK prime is probably my favorite piece of movie merch/movie toys that i own. it's GREAT. i just wish there were more. so, i'm definitely not opposed to non transforming figures. i mean, we have MP10 and MP04.. so, there's really no need for this to transform.

Mykltron wrote:No, we don't need yet another non-transforming Optimus figure, thank you.

umm.. next time, try not to speak for everyone by using the word "we".. maybe YOU don't want a non transforming G1 prime.. but i'm positive there are plenty of people out there who want this and are going to pick it up.

Flashwave wrote:

Siger wrote:
I know hot toys make good(expensive) toys but someone must have been smoking something when they decided to make this and the Megatron Prime versions.

Don't recall the Megatron, but I'd bet someone else's money that this originated from the DoTM/ROTF Prime using Jeftire as parts fodder and someone said "Hey, let's do this in G1 and use Starscream's corpse.

i thought this was supposed to be an homage to the episode when the decepticons disguised themselves as autobots.

TimothyR wrote:
Don't recall the Megatron, but I'd bet someone else's money that this originated from the DoTM/ROTF Prime using Jeftire as parts fodder and someone said "Hey, let's do this in G1 and use Starscream's corpse.

i thought this was supposed to be an homage to the episode when the decepticons disguised themselves as autobots.[/quote]
NO, because then it would be an Optimus with Starscream's head under an Optimus helmet. This is literally Optimus going kill crazy, killing Starscream and using him as weaponry, the Megatron version is the same just with more guns.
The bio is in the first page of this thread.

This is the most pointless item yet...

Hasbro suit one: Lets put starscream wings on optimus prime and sell it for 400 bucks !

Hasbro suit two: Yeah thats an awesome idea, they can display it next to their 2 foot tall non transforming scorponok figure ! (chuckles)

Rated X wrote:This is the most pointless item yet...

Hasbro suit one: Lets put starscream wings on optimus prime and sell it for 400 bucks !

Hasbro suit two: Yeah thats an awesome idea, they can display it next to their 2 foot tall non transforming scorponok figure ! (chuckles)

Except this isn't Hasbro. This is Hot Toys. An officially-licensed third party product.

Sabrblade wrote:

Rated X wrote:This is the most pointless item yet...

Hasbro suit one: Lets put starscream wings on optimus prime and sell it for 400 bucks !

Hasbro suit two: Yeah thats an awesome idea, they can display it next to their 2 foot tall non transforming scorponok figure ! (chuckles)

Except this isn't Hasbro. This is Hot Toys. An officially-licensed third party product.

And the same can be said for the Scorponok and Black Zarak giant figures that are licensed products, but not made by Takara or Hasbro.

In case folks aren't keep track ... only Hasbro and Takara Tomy make transforming Transformers figures. Most licensed Transformers products generally do not transform, with one of the few exceptions being the transforming cake topper Movie Optimus Prime, an Armada Optimus Prime Pen, an Energon Optimus Prime pen, and the upcoming transforming pens from Japan. I'm sure there are a few other exceptions but not many.

Autobot tap out wrote:Dear Takara

Please make a masterpiece version of this it would look really epic

Sincerely,

Autobot tap out

Um, they already did. It's called MP-10 and it was released 3 years ago. Have you been living under a rock?

Seibertron wrote:And the same can be said for the Scorponok and Black Zarak giant figures that are licensed products, but not made by Takara or Hasbro.

In case folks aren't keep track ... only Hasbro and Takara Tomy make transforming Transformers figures. Most licensed Transformers products generally do not transform, with one of the few exceptions being the transforming cake topper Movie Optimus Prime, an Armada Optimus Prime Pen, an Energon Optimus Prime pen, and the upcoming transforming pens from Japan. I'm sure there are a few other exceptions but not many.

What about all of the fast food premiums? Are those manufactured by McDonald's/BK with a license from Hasbro, or do they come from Hasbro's own factories?

Shuttershock wrote:

SW's SilverHammer wrote:

vectorsigma757 wrote:Bio:

OPTIMUS PRIME, perhaps the greatest leader of the Autobots has grown weary of war. Desperate to end the eons long conflict with the Decepticons, Optimus adopts extreme measures. In battle, he dons the corpse of the notorious air commander, STARSCREAM.

Anyone else get the feeling Prime made a starscream suit like Buffalo Bill was making a woman suit

Oh Primus, too many jokes to be made:

"It rubs the oil on it's skin or else it gets the axe again."

"Would you Powerlinx me? I'd Powerlinx me. I'd Powerlinx me hard."

Prime dancing to "Goodbye Mach Kicks".

Why does Optimus have his tailpipe tucked between his legs?!?!?

Metro Prime wrote:What about all of the fast food premiums? Are those manufactured by McDonald's/BK with a license from Hasbro, or do they come from Hasbro's own factories?

Hasbro and Takara made those for all the fast food joints.My Under-3 has the following copyright info:

© 1996 Hasbro
© 1996 Takara
China SW Chine

Same with the Littlest Pet Shop fast food toys that were part of the same assortment at the Beast Wars ones that year, only their copyright info is from Tonka instead.

Dead Metal wrote:They could have made this look like an EJ Sue painting, instead it looks like a kitbashed MP10.

Defenitely. It's a custom that would be easy to do too. Just buy one of many MP-03 that were "ham-handed" by clumsy owners and make the parts as a detachable jetpack. You know, à-la Wingblade Optimus Prime.

I'm a fan of both Optimus and Starscream. However, I don't think Starscream's ghost approves of Optimus wearing his corpse... Unless, this will open the door for him to POSSESS OPTIMUS!

Just come back to this thread, I would love to see some darker Transformers stories created via IDW where the ideas from these images are common place, bots of all kinds, stuck on a metalic world, where upgrades are at a premium so many bots go underground, to the Cybertronian Aftermarket where all manner of legal, questionable and darn right ghoulish bots are willing to trade, for the right price!

Thanks to the official Hot Toys website we have new images of their first ever Transformers franchise figure, Optimus Prime (Starscream Version). This highly detailed version of G1 Optimus Prime comes with wings and Null Rays from a defeated Starscream that can be attached to Prime. He also comes with his iconic Ion Blaster and The Matrix of Leadership, though it's unclear if the Matrix is actually removable. He stands approximately 12 inches tall and comes with a rocky display base Autobot symbol. Like most Hot Toys offerings he comes with a steep price tag, $344.99. Check out the new official images mirrored below:

Product Summary

"One shall stand, one shall fall"

Sideshow Collectibles and Hot Toys are proud to present the Optimus Prime (Starscream Version) collectible figure from the classic and highly popular The Transformers Generation 1.

The Optimus Prime (Starscream Version) collectible figure stands approximately 30cm tall and features a highly detailed mechanical structure and remarkable painting application with distressed effects, a pair of Starscream's wings, weapons, and a rocky ground diorama base with Autobots logo.

Im not complaining, but WHY is there a starscream version of optimus? was there a comic or something that had optimus use starscreams corpse? reminds me of ROTF armor from jetfire

It looks pretty slick. Great paint job but yeah.....what's up with the SS thing?

Definitely don't care for the starscream aspect of this

is this to go along with bays monstrous portrayal of optimus?

remember when optimus said "give me your face"? now he can wear it!

Still don't get it, and the price tag is just plain shocking.

This is garish, pretty damned grotesque and a complete waste of money. I just... Why? What is the POINT of this? This doesn't really homage anything. It's an overpriced non-transforming toy that makes a mockery of both Optimus and Starscream.

RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:This is garish, pretty damned grotesque and a complete waste of money. I just... Why? What is the POINT of this? This doesn't really homage anything. It's an overpriced non-transforming toy that makes a mockery of both Optimus and Starscream.

Not homage but great for Halloween! Optimus loses his moral center and goes kill crazy! Someone should buy both versions and have him wear all those Decepticon corpses/cannons. How awesomely macabre would it be?! 3rd partiers should custom some dead Decepticon heads for him to hold, Wheee!!!

Siger wrote:

RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:This is garish, pretty damned grotesque and a complete waste of money. I just... Why? What is the POINT of this? This doesn't really homage anything. It's an overpriced non-transforming toy that makes a mockery of both Optimus and Starscream.

Not homage but great for Halloween! Optimus loses his moral center and goes kill crazy! Someone should buy both versions and have him wear all those Decepticon corpses/cannons. How awesomely macabre would it be?! 3rd partiers should custom some dead Decepticon heads for him to hold, Wheee!!!

Well, since Halloween is my least-favorite holiday of the year... no.

See, if Prime had taken this approach to start with, the war would have been over pretty quickly.

This looks pretty awesome. I like a Prime who's prepared to kick some ass. Hence why the movies are so awesome.

The lovely folks at IZ Reloaded were recently in Singapore for SGTCC, and took a good look at the exhibited full colour version of the upcoming Hot Toys licensed G1 Optimus Prime (Starscream version) - check out the clip they sent us below!

Spotted at Singapore Toy, Game & Comic Convention 2014 (STGCC 2014), is this Hot Toys Optimus Prime (Starscream Version) Collectible Figure from the classic and highly popular THE TRANSFORMERS GENERATION 1.

The Optimus Prime (Starscream Version) collectible figure stands approximately 30cm tall featuring a highly detailed mechanical structure and remarkable painting applications with distress effect, a pair of Starscream's wings, weapons, and a rocky ground diorama base with Autobot logo.

It both looks cool and makes no sense.

Is anybody else disturbed by Optimus Prime now taking trophies of his kills?

I'm just not impressed by this. Yes, HT makes some really great movie-based figures, but this Optimus Prime just doesn't make sense. Taking wings from Starscream is silly as a concept. And at that size, if he can't transform then what's the point? It's just another super-overpriced toy for people who can't say "No". I'll stick with my perfect MP01, thank you.

Yeah, this is still stupid and a total money sink.

I still think this is the result of some weird version of prime, taking starscream and locking him up in his creepy basement.

Cool. Now let's see the alt mode, which I assume it has, because it's a Transformer.

I own every mp takara has made including every coin and all of the variants... and seeing this figure makes it very hard not to acquire it, and i think it is because of the expected quality that hottoys is known for... U come to trust them that they are going to make a product that u r going to love. Afterall, most of the mps that i own have been preordered months or even a year in advance without even knowing what the final version is going to look like! Its insane! But i must say, i've had no regrets and im always pleasantly surprised that i did when i open the box...

I am not getting this figure, mainly because, I know its going to be awesome and it will only lead to more awesomeness and more figures as a line, seen those pictures of optimus prime megatron version yet? Im sure there is a starscream "megatron" version in the works too, in short, i have to limit what i collect now days... Ill pass on this line of awesomeness to preserve space and hold on to my money. Threezero and masterpiece transformers are an expensive hobby to have having fullmetalghost on my bedstand, waiting on fullmetalghost captain form and that awesome atlas figure as well, makes me think that the 300-400 dollar figure segment is hard at work to get u hooked.. Sorry hottoys transformers, ur too late! I got my fix!

AutoBorst wrote:And at that size, if he can't transform then what's the point?

To be a good-looking display piece.

Sabrblade wrote:

AutoBorst wrote:And at that size, if he can't transform then what's the point?

To be a good-looking display piece.

Then there is no point to this.

I still want to see someone get both this and the Megatron Prime, then combine all the weapons/parts on him and have him hold some decepticon heads in one hand.

About time Optimus got as evil as the rest of the Primes.

Sabrblade wrote:

AutoBorst wrote:And at that size, if he can't transform then what's the point?

To be a good-looking display piece.

All of the TFs in my collection are good-looking display pieces, and they all transform. Buying a TF statue that doesn't transform is like buying a luxury sports car with no engine. "But it looks good parked in the driveway!" I'd rather have a Toyota I can drive than a Ferrari I can only look at.

They made an untransformable transformer with a less impressive look. Good for them.

i think most ppl that are passing on this are using the "it doesnt transformer exuse" is funny to me.......maybe its cuz all of my TF are kept in Bot mode........and thats why i buy tfs cuz of their bot modes.......i never found it interesting to keep a bunch of cars in my display cabs, thats what my hot wheels were all about. lol

Ok sure their are some awesome car and plane modes, but seriously thats boring to look at lol

this piece isnt gonna be for every collector, but for me, i have a feeling that the materials used will be better then anything takara has used, the detail so far to me smokes mp 10, the head scalp the paint apps etc

i got mine on pre-order and i think he will blow away a lot of my primes..........

mp10 i love, but i always knew something will test it soon enough.

I get the feel that if this thing had come out 20 years ago or so, people would be more interested in something like this. Maybe not specifically an "Optimus Prime wearing mutilated Starscream parts", but a good-looking display piece in general. Back then, the pre-BW era, we didn't have all the nice looking things we have now. There were no collector-oriented lines. No Masterpieces, no Alternators, no Human Alliance figures, nothing prettier than a Japanese G1 leader figure or G2's Laser Optimus Prime toy, which were arguably the best-looking things back then.

Nowadays, we have all these nice collector-aimed figures that serve as both fully functional toys with playability and as good-looking display pieces. It just shows how spoiled fortunate we are as a fandom to have all these nice things at this time, when other lines aren't always so lucky and sometimes only get good-looking display pieces in instances such as the release of this Hot Toys statue.

Remember in the 2000s when all of the following (and more) were released?







There was more of a market for these kinds of things back then since the idea of Transformers toys for collectors was still a fairly new and fairly unexplored concept. Hot Toys is just carrying on with the same kind of agenda as the folks who made all of the above. If there seriously isn't enough of a market for an item like this in this day and age for Hot Toys to make a decent profit off of, then I guess the only thing to be said is that it came out at the wrong time. But, the fact that it even is getting made shows that someone still believes there's a market for this thing, however small and/or unspoken it might be.

RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

AutoBorst wrote:And at that size, if he can't transform then what's the point?

To be a good-looking display piece.

Then there is no point to this.

then you miss the point...
its not to have a mere toy but to have an actual collection piece to display

I like this, if it was more affordable I would definitely buy because it looks absolutely beautiful. The SS gimmick doesn't make sense, and kinda sucks since that jacks up the price, but I don't think this is pointless or anything. Maybe one day they'll give us one more reasonably price.

I wonder if the tires are rubber?

I like this, if it was more affordable I would definitely buy because it looks absolutely beautiful. The SS gimmick doesn't make sense, and kinda sucks since that jacks up the price, but I don't think this is pointless or anything. Maybe one day they'll give us one more reasonably price.

I wonder if the tires are rubber?

It's been while since we had some news on Hot Toys' Optimus Prime Starscream edition figure. He was actually up on BBTS a year ago and is still on preorder. He is out in Hong Kong though and the snakas blog has some picutres of how this figure looks like in the box as well as some in hand images. Hot Toys themselves posted a TON of HD images of this new figure and you can see them all here. Some have been posted below as well. I know what you are thinking. True, it doesn't Transform, it isn't an outright G1 reference and 345$ is quite a bit of money to spend... but you can't deny how good he looks!

"Starscream Version"??? What the hell is going on! Why does Optimus Prime have Starscream's wings and null rays??? I DON'T GET IT!

SillySpringer wrote:"Starscream Version"??? What the hell is going on! Why does Optimus Prime have Starscream's wings and null rays??? I DON'T GET IT!

You are a year late to the party, perhaps read the previous posts to catch up? Either way Murderous-Prime does look pretty good. He needs to hold more Decepticon heads like a robot voodoo witch doctor to complete the insane look. Will I even consider buying this? HELL NO!

Siger wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:"Starscream Version"??? What the hell is going on! Why does Optimus Prime have Starscream's wings and null rays??? I DON'T GET IT!

You are a year late to the party, perhaps read the previous posts to catch up? Either way Murderous-Prime does look pretty good. He needs to hold more Decepticon heads like a robot voodoo witch doctor to complete the insane look. Will I even consider buying this? HELL NO!

Here's a better shot of that last one where he is holding the head of his vanquished foe:



Oh and I wont be getting it either. At that price, this toy better come to life and make me dinner!

Whoever was lead designer on this, really doesn't seem to get transformers.