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Hints at a potential Beast Wars movie from Bumblebee producer Lorenzo di Bonaventura

Transformers News: Hints at a potential Beast Wars movie from Bumblebee producer Lorenzo di Bonaventura

Saturday, January 5th, 2019 1:21PM CST

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China.Org has reported of a potential Beast Wars movie as well as the (still rumored) Optimus Prime movie. Bumblebee movie producer, Lorenzo di Bonaventura was also careful to state that the chances of subsequent movies are riding on the success of Bumblebee at the Box Office.

He also mentioned the animated movie was in its writing stage, though with other titles already riding on Bumblebee's success – being in the writing stage doesn't exactly guarantee even the animated movie's release, either.

China.org wrote:"We have an animated movie in the writing stage right now. We are trying to figure out an Optimus Prime movie, while the Beast Wars franchise has the chance, too."

However, the producer stressed this could only happen under one condition: "Bumblebee" must be a success.”


Transformers News: Hints at a potential Beast Wars movie from Bumblebee producer Lorenzo di Bonaventura

You can read the full report here, which also mulls over design choices for the Bumblebee movie and its more G1 centric aesthetic.

With the Bumblebee movie still being pushed at the cinema is it too early to be giving hints of Beast Wars and Optimus Prime to generate hype for more movies or is it a carrot to generate additional sales for the Bumblebee movie? If Beast Wars or Optimus Prime is going ahead – what are you hoping for? Share your thoughts on the Energon Pub right here on Seibertron.com!
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Re: Hints at a potential Beast Wars movie from Bumblebee producer Lorenzo di Bonaventura (2002760)
Posted by Skritz on January 5th, 2019 @ 1:36pm CST
But isn't Bumblebee a flop? >:oP
Re: Hints at a potential Beast Wars movie from Bumblebee producer Lorenzo di Bonaventura (2002762)
Posted by Amelie on January 5th, 2019 @ 1:42pm CST
Its too early to say that [if its a flop] at the moment. Bumblebee only released in China yesterday, which is now a massive market for Hollywood movies.
Re: Hints at a potential Beast Wars movie from Bumblebee producer Lorenzo di Bonaventura (2002763)
Posted by 1984forever on January 5th, 2019 @ 1:47pm CST
So what’s the game plan here? For Transformers fans to see Bumblebee over and over until it’s a success? Bee is far from my favorite character. I didn’t originally intend to see Bumblebee, but I decided to go to the theater anyway because of the G1 sequences (which I suspect were tossed in at the last minute to draw fans like me in). I actually hoped the BB movie would fail and the Transformers movie franchise would be rebooted closer to it’s G1 roots sometime in the future. It’s sad that everything is contingent upon BB doing well because I’m not shelling out any more dollars to see it (I’m actually thinking about taking the family out to see Aquaman tonight). Hopefully Paramount or whoever will be satisfied with the 350 or so million Bumblebee MIGHT make.
Re: Hints at a potential Beast Wars movie from Bumblebee producer Lorenzo di Bonaventura (2002770)
Posted by Lore Keeper on January 5th, 2019 @ 2:00pm CST
No guys, don't do this to me. I wont be able to handle the disappointment when it doesn't happen! :-(
Re: Hints at a potential Beast Wars movie from Bumblebee producer Lorenzo di Bonaventura (2002781)
Posted by ZeroWolf on January 5th, 2019 @ 2:25pm CST
A beast wars movie? Make it is own timeline and I'm in.

Also the China opening seems to be a good deal better then the American one. Fingers crossed bee makesyso much of its money back but its getting the marketing costs back that's the problem these days. Especially since they tend to keep that figure close to their chests.
Re: Hints at a potential Beast Wars movie from Bumblebee producer Lorenzo di Bonaventura (2002787)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on January 5th, 2019 @ 3:09pm CST
Considering it has taken 11 years for a Live Action Transformers film with an overall positive consensus, leave Beast Wars alone.
Re: Hints at a potential Beast Wars movie from Bumblebee producer Lorenzo di Bonaventura (2002789)
Posted by Emerje on January 5th, 2019 @ 3:19pm CST
Skritz wrote:But isn't Bumblebee a flop? >:oP

Not really. Its success never rode entirely on the US release, it was within its opening weekend range so it at least met expectations there. It also came out of its second weekend at $20M maintaining its 3rd place spot. Worldwide it's already made $196,611,248 so its made back all of its costs and that's ahead of the Chinese release this weekend and the Japanese release in March plus home video so it seems to be doing fine. It isn't breaking records, but I doubt it'll prevent anything new from being made, probably just effect future budgets.

Emerje
Re: Hints at a potential Beast Wars movie from Bumblebee producer Lorenzo di Bonaventura (2002792)
Posted by ZeroWolf on January 5th, 2019 @ 3:23pm CST
Emerje wrote:
Skritz wrote:But isn't Bumblebee a flop? >:oP

Not really. Its success never rode entirely on the US release, it was within its opening weekend range so it at least met expectations there. It also came out of its second weekend at $20M maintaining its 3rd place spot. Worldwide it's already made $196,611,248 so its made back all of its costs and that's ahead of the Chinese release this weekend and the Japanese release in March plus home video so it seems to be doing fine. It isn't breaking records, but I doubt it'll prevent anything new from being made, probably just effect future budgets.

Emerje

Does that include marketing costs?
Re: Hints at a potential Beast Wars movie from Bumblebee producer Lorenzo di Bonaventura (2002822)
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on January 5th, 2019 @ 4:24pm CST
Skritz wrote:But isn't Bumblebee a flop? >:oP


You North American elitist. >:oP

Emerje wrote:
Skritz wrote:But isn't Bumblebee a flop? >:oP

Not really. Its success never rode entirely on the US release, it was within its opening weekend range so it at least met expectations there. It also came out of its second weekend at $20M maintaining its 3rd place spot. Worldwide it's already made $196,611,248 so its made back all of its costs and that's ahead of the Chinese release this weekend and the Japanese release in March plus home video so it seems to be doing fine. It isn't breaking records, but I doubt it'll prevent anything new from being made, probably just effect future budgets.

Emerje


For people to say it's failing, I really can't see how it is. The general consensus is that it's really good, so word of mouth would surely help it. I didn't expect a movie with this budget to outsell TLK, but I didn't expect it to flop either. And I still don't. TLK flopped because its budget was also very high and it couldn't make its money back despite its large advertising budget. Bumblebee is a low budget movie, so it just being a moderate success is in of itself pretty much a miracle.

Also with all the negative comments being half people saying they want something "new and woke like Bay" and the other half being geewhiners saying they want something "new and woke like G1", I find the movie to be literally the perfect balance of both. Now let's just hope future ones aren't afraid to stray away from Bay's continuity for creative purposes.
Re: Hints at a potential Beast Wars movie from Bumblebee producer Lorenzo di Bonaventura (2002838)
Posted by dragons on January 5th, 2019 @ 5:01pm CST
1984forever wrote:So what’s the game plan here? For Transformers fans to see Bumblebee over and over until it’s a success? Bee is far from my favorite character. I didn’t originally intend to see Bumblebee, but I decided to go to the theater anyway because of the G1 sequences (which I suspect were tossed in at the last minute to draw fans like me in). I actually hoped the BB movie would fail and the Transformers movie franchise would be rebooted closer to it’s G1 roots sometime in the future. It’s sad that everything is contingent upon BB doing well because I’m not shelling out any more dollars to see it (I’m actually thinking about taking the family out to see Aquaman tonight). Hopefully Paramount or whoever will be satisfied with the 350 or so million Bumblebee MIGHT make.


Not everything needs be g1 crap did people say armada , cybertron, animated, prime series sucks it’s not g1 not dam chance people like series have to much g1 shit it will make live action movie look like fucking cartoon if you shallow minded old fans get your heads out of your butts and try something new talk to new transformer fans thanks to movies for making them fans you will dam know they hate cartoons and comics when they want to see transformers movie they want live action not transformers cartoon movie such as ultra magnus was in only people who will see transformers cartoon movie are people on this site and little kids if transformers live action movie looks to cartoony new fans will not see it but you old fans never ever talk to new fans to realize this shit.

My boss he likes marvel movies he saw every marvel movie there is but he will not see Spider-Man into spider verse cartoon movie why he does not like cartoons that is how new transformer fans feel make transformer movie look more cartoony and less live action of course new fans will not see it and it does not help bumblebee being released same day on aquaman was on aquaman is kicking bee ass that’s another reason for bumblebee not doing well get off stupid g1 shit you can accept change in cartoons but never movies as old fan you are what does that say for yourself it tells new fans you only like g1 nothing more if it’s not g1 you won’t like it and you won’t give it chance unless it’s cartoon series one sided thinking of course not surprised
Re: Hints at a potential Beast Wars movie from Bumblebee producer Lorenzo di Bonaventura (2002848)
Posted by SkyFire Prime on January 5th, 2019 @ 6:03pm CST
Throw the BUMS out!
Re: Hints at a potential Beast Wars movie from Bumblebee producer Lorenzo di Bonaventura (2002850)
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on January 5th, 2019 @ 6:22pm CST
Hot damn, hire me as a mod so I can clean up this crap, lmao

The reason some are complaining is not from being geewhiners, but people like myself feel Bayverse left too little room for much new. It's not that I hate Bayverse, I just want the writers and directors to have MORE creative liberty.

Stop being abusive towards a general direction when you don't really even know what people are talking about. It's the Bayverse timeline that peeves a lot of people, not necessarily change and trying new things. Though there are those kind of nutjobs as well in any fandom. Believe me, my Facebook is flooded with them. X_X

Edit: Also, @a specific person above, please learn how to use punctuation. It puts a dampering on your credibility when your entire argument is a century long run-on sentence.
Re: Hints at a potential Beast Wars movie from Bumblebee producer Lorenzo di Bonaventura (2002857)
Posted by S.o.L. on January 5th, 2019 @ 8:22pm CST
Amelie wrote:a potential Beast Wars movie

Already done, but it was part of King Kong, they just didn't transform.
https://www.deviantart.com/eoja/art/Beast-Wars-41850175
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Re: Hints at a potential Beast Wars movie from Bumblebee producer Lorenzo di Bonaventura (2002889)
Posted by Ultra Markus on January 6th, 2019 @ 12:48am CST
i dont think it would be hard they already can do movies like skull island and rampage
this wouldnt be that much more difficult
Re: Hints at a potential Beast Wars movie from Bumblebee producer Lorenzo di Bonaventura (2002901)
Posted by blackeyedprime on January 6th, 2019 @ 3:54am CST
Please no, some things should be left untouched & unspoiled, easpecially by certain producers, directors and scriptwriters.

Maybe they can try doing an Animorphs movie (it can even have Rhianna in it), no way that can ruin anything for anyone :)
Re: Hints at a potential Beast Wars movie from Bumblebee producer Lorenzo di Bonaventura (2002902)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on January 6th, 2019 @ 4:07am CST
Beast Wars lives on in the MP collection, it is better to leave it there, on a high note. "Modern" tastes would seek to tweak Beast Wars based on the ego of Script Writer/Director/Producer, be that film or new TV show.
If they really want to mess with something other than G1, just do a Go-Bots film and leave the rest of the Transformers legacy outside of Generation One in peace.
Re: Hints at a potential Beast Wars movie from Bumblebee producer Lorenzo di Bonaventura (2002906)
Posted by ZeroWolf on January 6th, 2019 @ 5:01am CST
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Beast Wars lives on in the MP collection, it is better to leave it there, on a high note. "Modern" tastes would seek to tweak Beast Wars based on the ego of Script Writer/Director/Producer, be that film or new TV show.
If they really want to mess with something other than G1, just do a Go-Bots film and leave the rest of the Transformers legacy outside of Generation One in peace.

A go-bots vs Transformers vs GI Joe movie :-? Could work...

Also if we can get King Ghidora in an American Godzilla movie that incorporates King Kong into its expanded universe then we can get a beast wars movie.
Re: Hints at a potential Beast Wars movie from Bumblebee producer Lorenzo di Bonaventura (2002908)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on January 6th, 2019 @ 5:08am CST
So as long as they can do the Beast Modes visually in Live Action (let alone the fact they would butcher the Bot Modes) that equals Beast Wars Movie??

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Re: Hints at a potential Beast Wars movie from Bumblebee producer Lorenzo di Bonaventura (2002910)
Posted by Burn on January 6th, 2019 @ 5:08am CST
dragons wrote:
1984forever wrote:So what’s the game plan here? For Transformers fans to see Bumblebee over and over until it’s a success? Bee is far from my favorite character. I didn’t originally intend to see Bumblebee, but I decided to go to the theater anyway because of the G1 sequences (which I suspect were tossed in at the last minute to draw fans like me in). I actually hoped the BB movie would fail and the Transformers movie franchise would be rebooted closer to it’s G1 roots sometime in the future. It’s sad that everything is contingent upon BB doing well because I’m not shelling out any more dollars to see it (I’m actually thinking about taking the family out to see Aquaman tonight). Hopefully Paramount or whoever will be satisfied with the 350 or so million Bumblebee MIGHT make.


Not everything needs be g1 crap did people say armada , cybertron, animated, prime series sucks it’s not g1 not dam chance people like series have to much g1 **** it will make live action movie look like **** cartoon if you shallow minded old fans get your heads out of your butts and try something new talk to new transformer fans thanks to movies for making them fans you will dam know they hate cartoons and comics when they want to see transformers movie they want live action not transformers cartoon movie such as ultra magnus was in only people who will see transformers cartoon movie are people on this site and little kids if transformers live action movie looks to cartoony new fans will not see it but you old fans never ever talk to new fans to realize this ****.

My boss he likes marvel movies he saw every marvel movie there is but he will not see Spider-Man into spider verse cartoon movie why he does not like cartoons that is how new transformer fans feel make transformer movie look more cartoony and less live action of course new fans will not see it and it does not help bumblebee being released same day on aquaman was on aquaman is kicking bee ass that’s another reason for bumblebee not doing well get off stupid g1 **** you can accept change in cartoons but never movies as old fan you are what does that say for yourself it tells new fans you only like g1 nothing more if it’s not g1 you won’t like it and you won’t give it chance unless it’s cartoon series one sided thinking of course not surprised


Hey dragons! You've sprouted off like this before, and I pulled you up then, and I'm doing it now. You don't speak for the majority, just because your circle of friends feel that way doesn't mean everyone else does.

SillyMcGilly wrote:Edit: Also, @a specific person above, please learn how to use punctuation. It puts a dampering on your credibility when your entire argument is a century long run-on sentence.

Do NOT criticise a person for their spelling, grammar, punctuation ... or their use of the written word in general. Not everyone has English as their first language.

This new attitude of yours sucks. Tone down the anger and hostility.
Re: Hints at a potential Beast Wars movie from Bumblebee producer Lorenzo di Bonaventura (2002914)
Posted by ZeroWolf on January 6th, 2019 @ 5:35am CST
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:So as long as they can do the Beast Modes visually in Live Action (let alone the fact they would butcher the Bot Modes) that equals Beast Wars Movie??

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There's no proof yet they would destroy the bot modes as so far we've now got two different ways that bot modes have been translated to the big screen. I'd give it the benefit of the doubt till we saw renders. Plus at the very least it wouldn't do anything to the beast wars product out there already.
Re: Hints at a potential Beast Wars movie from Bumblebee producer Lorenzo di Bonaventura (2002916)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on January 6th, 2019 @ 5:38am CST
Name one Live Action design that is superior to it's contemporaries. That is, by agreed consensus.
Re: Hints at a potential Beast Wars movie from Bumblebee producer Lorenzo di Bonaventura (2002919)
Posted by ZeroWolf on January 6th, 2019 @ 5:56am CST
Are we talking strictly transformers? As I think the majority love the G1 designs from the Cybertron scenes of Bumblebee. If we're talking non-tf then I submit Thanos and Deadpool.

I said I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and I will if this project goes anywhere.
Re: Hints at a potential Beast Wars movie from Bumblebee producer Lorenzo di Bonaventura (2002920)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on January 6th, 2019 @ 6:02am CST
ZeroWolf wrote:Are we talking strictly transformers? As I think the majority love the G1 designs from the Cybertron scenes of Bumblebee. If we're talking non-tf then I submit Thanos and Deadpool.

I said I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and I will if this project goes anywhere.


Just Transformers. As for Deadpool, he is as close to comic book [design] verbatim onscreen as Sin City.

Beast Wars story is done. It had a beginning, middle and end. G1 died out and left potential unfulfilled, with room for expansion. Beast Wars didn't.
As I said, given how cool Scioli's new mini series is at the moment, I'd rather they do a Go-Bots Movie instead. Or even give one of the other Transformers offshoots some Live Action attention.
Re: Hints at a potential Beast Wars movie from Bumblebee producer Lorenzo di Bonaventura (2002956)
Posted by griftimus prime on January 6th, 2019 @ 1:19pm CST
with this guy as a producer do not expect a good movie but i have been wanting another great beast line of toys for a while now.
Re: Hints at a potential Beast Wars movie from Bumblebee producer Lorenzo di Bonaventura (2002958)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on January 6th, 2019 @ 1:26pm CST
griftimus prime wrote:with this guy as a producer do not expect a good movie but i have been wanting another great beast line of toys for a while now.


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They don't get much better than this.
Re: Hints at a potential Beast Wars movie from Bumblebee producer Lorenzo di Bonaventura (2002991)
Posted by griftimus prime on January 6th, 2019 @ 4:13pm CST
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
griftimus prime wrote:with this guy as a producer do not expect a good movie but i have been wanting another great beast line of toys for a while now.


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They don't get much better than this.

new designs. new characters.
Re: Hints at a potential Beast Wars movie from Bumblebee producer Lorenzo di Bonaventura (2003066)
Posted by Amelie on January 7th, 2019 @ 4:24am CST
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Name one Live Action design that is superior to it's contemporaries. That is, by agreed consensus.


Weighted question. You'll never get an agreed consensus on anything. You could change that phrase into "Name one Generation One design that is superior to it's contemporaries. That is, by agreed consensus" and still not come up with anything.

As for the subject of Beast Wars - I think it'd be a harder one to pull off well. I'd loathe to have a 20 foot metal Gorilla on screen and equally knowing they'd want the "human" element in there, too - I don't want a life-size robot Gorilla running around with humans, either.
Re: Hints at a potential Beast Wars movie from Bumblebee producer Lorenzo di Bonaventura (2003099)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on January 7th, 2019 @ 10:31am CST
griftimus prime wrote:new designs. new characters.


That's not Beast Wars you're after then. The Beast Era has no new characters or Designs, as it ended with Beast Machines finale. Given they did add two new Dinobots, renewed exposure in the rest of the G1 Beasts might be what you're after. They might even make the Firecons into something that looks decent :lol: . Let alone upscale the Horrorcons. MP Apeface could be amazing =P~

Amelie wrote:As for the subject of Beast Wars - I think it'd be a harder one to pull off well. I'd loathe to have a 20 foot metal Gorilla on screen and equally knowing they'd want the "human" element in there, too - I don't want a life-size robot Gorilla running around with humans, either.


That is my biggest concern. Beast Wars was a pioneer of the Transformers series wherein no humans existed, nor were needed (the Neanderthals don't count). The movies to date are fixated on humans being the "heart" of the Live Action films. That doesn't mesh with anything Beast Wars related I would want to see.
Re: Hints at a potential Beast Wars movie from Bumblebee producer Lorenzo di Bonaventura (2003113)
Posted by ZeroWolf on January 7th, 2019 @ 11:12am CST
A lot of people say beast wars as something that needs to be explored as in, realistic animal alts to robots in that style. Also G1 ended with Beast Machines yet we still keeping going over 1984 ;) For all its faults, the Bay led movies did give us something new, so while it was divisive, it should still be applauded for the attempt.
Re: Hints at a potential Beast Wars movie from Bumblebee producer Lorenzo di Bonaventura (2003115)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on January 7th, 2019 @ 11:31am CST
ZeroWolf wrote:A lot of people say beast wars is something that needs to be explored as in, realistic animal alts to robots in that style.


How and on what grounds, Fan Service?? That's not a good enough reason to do anything worthwhile. To the credit of the creative team behind Beast Wars, they gave a legitimate reasoning to Beast Modes being what they were and the setting for the series. That caveat would have to be replicated otherwise Beast Modes are superficial and pointless.

They even left The inbetween years (Bots & Cons into Maxi's and Preds) ambiguous so as to not tie themselves into convoluted and unnecessary back story. I know Fan Fiction on this era does exist, but the beauty of Beast Wars was in its simplicity. There was no ongoing comic to Beast Wars, or anything else canon beside the show. So if it wasn't in the show, it doesn't really matter.


ZeroWolf wrote: Also G1 ended with Beast Machines yet we still keeping going over 1984 ;) For all its faults, the Bay led movies did give us something new, so while it was divisive, it should still be applauded for the attempt.


Lets be blunt, G1 was so simple and bare bones it was easy to adapt. To mold into whatever the creative force behind it wanted it to be. Other than adhering to a checklist of visual and audio (VA) cues, G1 is literally a free for all. Sunbow to IDWverse is proof of this.

Beast Wars was different because it had depth and substance, absent from G1. Distinct characterisations not merely dependant on catchphrases and archetypes. Beast Wars was defined and set in stone, G1 was a jelly mold.
Re: Hints at a potential Beast Wars movie from Bumblebee producer Lorenzo di Bonaventura (2003118)
Posted by ZeroWolf on January 7th, 2019 @ 11:38am CST
Hey I was just saying what some people meant by new characters and designs, also at its most simplistic level all you need to do is have Maximals vs Predacons (remember the toys dictated what the fiction had to explain) and a reason to why animal alts which would be the same as its the very same reason Grimlock and the Dinobots took their forms in Spotlight Shockwave in IDW. This wouldn't affect the old beast wars just like every other version of tf doesn't impact on the sunbow toon. Don't like it? You don't have to watch it. Beast Wars has already got two reimaginings under its belt with Shattered Glass and Beast Wars Uprising (oh and the IDW comics, as they are seperate to the Japanese Beast War toons)
Re: Hints at a potential Beast Wars movie from Bumblebee producer Lorenzo di Bonaventura (2003312)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on January 8th, 2019 @ 8:47am CST
(One loss of internet later)

I wasn't having a go, just stating a lot more went into making Beast Wars it's own distinct thing. Prior G1 was always broad strokes, the "Evil" Decepticons vs. the "Heroic" Autobots.
Artistically, G1 had a lot more to work with, to personalise creatively.

That said, the "new thing won't affect the old thing" is the most pedantic argument. It can be used as justification to plagiarise virtually everything ever made, highlighting how creatively bankrupt people have become. If everything save the name is different, it is not an original thing, it is merely a cash grab nothing more. For an example, I point you to Reboot: The Guardians Code.
Re: Hints at a potential Beast Wars movie from Bumblebee producer Lorenzo di Bonaventura (2003321)
Posted by ZeroWolf on January 8th, 2019 @ 9:55am CST
I think saying "the new thing won't affect the old" is perfectly valid, after all look at Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, that's on its (counts fingers) ninth incarnation now? And its still the same core cast. Something new can't take away the old, the old thing still exists, plus there is one thing that while it's very blunt, is sadly true. Beast Wars is whatever Hasbro says it is, if they want to add a new chapter to tf lore where robots with realistic beast alts clobber each other, and call that Beast Wars: Second Impact that's their right, as they own it. It's not perfect but it is what it is,and at consumer level you can choose to consume or not.

Plus let's face facts anyway...They'll just keep pumping out G1 movies now that Bumblebee movie is profitable :lol:
Re: Hints at a potential Beast Wars movie from Bumblebee producer Lorenzo di Bonaventura (2003349)
Posted by S.o.L. on January 8th, 2019 @ 2:08pm CST
ZeroWolf wrote:This wouldn't affect the old beast wars just like every other version of tf doesn't impact on the sunbow toon.

It is true, but the funny thing is, the characters in beast wars did try to affect the G1 toon, season 2 ended so helplessly, I thought they ended the series (ending like ALF with no new season (even though there was an ALF tv movie later)), and it was Hasbro saying transformers was over. It felt like our childhood was being attacked (by the fictional events, but it also made me ponder our actual real life, what if the G1 show never existed and we never had the toys) and there would be no new toys.
I bought my first beast wars toy that same day.

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:For an example, I point you to Reboot: The Guardians Code.

Oddly, a show called Zixx https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zixx kind of ripped off ReBoot, and it looks like the new ReBoot is closer to a reboot/ripoff of Zixx (gotta add those human characters it seems).
Re: Hints at a potential Beast Wars movie from Bumblebee producer Lorenzo di Bonaventura (2003356)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on January 8th, 2019 @ 2:40pm CST
ZeroWolf wrote:I think saying "the new thing won't affect the old" is perfectly valid, after all look at Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, that's on its (counts fingers) ninth incarnation now? And its still the same core cast. Something new can't take away the old, the old thing still exists, plus there is one thing that while it's very blunt, is sadly true. Beast Wars is whatever Hasbro says it is, if they want to add a new chapter to tf lore where robots with realistic beast alts clobber each other, and call that Beast Wars: Second Impact that's their right, as they own it. It's not perfect but it is what it is,and at consumer level you can choose to consume or not.


The caveat is that G1 movies can keep being remade forever because, by pop culture recognition alone, that is The Transformers. Beast Wars is a sub-series, a spin-off. It is Batman Beyond, to Batman: TAS. The Batman can be remade time and again, but context is needed for another Batman Beyond/another Beast Wars to Transformers.

Sometimes however, as in the case with He-Man, the New Thing can kill the old thing stone dead. That does happen in all media.

Hasbro can say what they like, if people don't buy into it, they make it go away. Aligned Continuity, hello? DC's DCYou, Marvel's Heroes Reborn, Venus, the Female turtle of TMNT etc etc


S.o.L. wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:This wouldn't affect the old beast wars just like every other version of tf doesn't impact on the sunbow toon.

It is true, but the funny thing is, the characters in beast wars did try to affect the G1 toon, season 2 ended so helplessly, I thought they ended the series (ending like ALF with no new season (even though there was an ALF tv movie later)), and it was Hasbro saying transformers was over. It felt like our childhood was being attacked (by the fictional events, but it also made me ponder our actual real life, what if the G1 show never existed and we never had the toys) and there would be no new toys.
I bought my first beast wars toy that same day.


That is probably the strangest take home message I've ever read regarding The Agenda. I thought we were being taken somewhere new, bold and exciting. Alas that didn't happen... At least we got Depthcharge >:oP
Re: Hints at a potential Beast Wars movie from Bumblebee producer Lorenzo di Bonaventura (2003363)
Posted by ZeroWolf on January 8th, 2019 @ 3:10pm CST
Aligned continuity did quite well as it only ended with Rid 2015, and so you agree then that if fans consume a new beast wars movie then things will go well :) this debate probably looks imposing for anyone else looking in so I think we may have exhausted it... At least till we actually get more concrete details on if a beast wars movie is in production, as we could just be forever talking about a hypothetical. You don't want it but I do, so I think that's it for now.

S.o.L@ out of curiosity, what bw toy was it you got?
Re: Hints at a potential Beast Wars movie from Bumblebee producer Lorenzo di Bonaventura (2003368)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on January 8th, 2019 @ 3:22pm CST
ZeroWolf wrote: and so you agree then that if fans consume a new beast wars movie then things will go well :)


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Well barring a couple of episodes and two characters, I adore Beast Wars more than any other Transformers series. To that end I hope nothing comes of this quote. Unless of course, they actually fulfil the promise of The Agenda's finale and give us that Dark timeline as a CG movie. Everyone barring Campbell Lane is still alive and viable for returning VO duties to make that happen too.
Re: Hints at a potential Beast Wars movie from Bumblebee producer Lorenzo di Bonaventura (2003463)
Posted by S.o.L. on January 8th, 2019 @ 9:57pm CST
ZeroWolf wrote:S.o.L@ out of curiosity, what bw toy was it you got?

Ha, it was Transquito! Could have had Scorponok though :HEADHURTS:
I liked the look of the giant insect more (except for the exposed hands).
Never would have guessed Scorponok could go up in value so much later, never got him.
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Beast Wars is a sub-series, a spin-off. It is Batman Beyond, to Batman: TAS. The Batman can be remade time and again, but context is needed for another Batman Beyond/another Beast Wars to Transformers.

That does make some sense, a new version of a spinoff would likely be re-made entirely. If we must have humans, may I suggest someone like Turok instead of this:
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S.o.L. wrote:blah blah blah

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:That is probably the strangest take home message I've ever read regarding The Agenda. I thought we were being taken somewhere new, bold and exciting. Alas that didn't happen... At least we got Depthcharge >:oP

The internet existed, I should have just looked up if they were making season 3. I did look up some later that year after it started and saw a TM2 dinobot wallpaper vs. Depth Charge, TM2 dinobot wasn't on the show yet, so couldn't tell what the thing was, legs were attacking so looked like it was standing on a tail only, like some kind of carnivorous bone-seahorse, but it was awesome anyway.
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Re: Hints at a potential Beast Wars movie from Bumblebee producer Lorenzo di Bonaventura (2003530)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on January 9th, 2019 @ 9:12am CST
I always thought Dinobot 2 as a concept was wrong anyway. They should have used the toyline as inspiration, Made him Grimlock (an inversion on the existing toy palette swap of Dinobot) and have him voiced by Gregg Berger. Leave Dinobot to the greatest episode of Transformers ever made and stop copping out on important character deaths just because of petulant fanboy whining. But I digress...
Re: Hints at a potential Beast Wars movie from Bumblebee producer Lorenzo di Bonaventura (2003532)
Posted by ZeroWolf on January 9th, 2019 @ 9:18am CST
I don't know I like the idea of Megs being evil enough to clone and twist Dinobots spark to his will, I liked the idea. Plus the idea of Dinobot 2 being like Frankenstein's Monster just adds to it
Re: Hints at a potential Beast Wars movie from Bumblebee producer Lorenzo di Bonaventura (2003537)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on January 9th, 2019 @ 9:24am CST
ZeroWolf wrote:I don't know I like the idea of Megs being evil enough to clone and twist Dinobots spark to his will, I liked the idea. Plus the idea of Dinobot 2 being like Frankenstein's Monster just adds to it



They just didn't do enough with him. Although a lot of Season 3 had that problem, TM2 Blackarachnia anyone? But using Grimlock would have been potentially more evil, implying he is messing even more with the timestream to win. Dinobot had a defining death, he should have been left there.
Re: Hints at a potential Beast Wars movie from Bumblebee producer Lorenzo di Bonaventura (2003540)
Posted by ZeroWolf on January 9th, 2019 @ 9:27am CST
That's true but it couldn't have been Grimlock anyway if they were going by the G1 toon...Grimlock would be built in the future. This is why they should have said what elements where in the past leading yo to Beast Wars mind
Re: Hints at a potential Beast Wars movie from Bumblebee producer Lorenzo di Bonaventura (2003542)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on January 9th, 2019 @ 9:32am CST
ZeroWolf wrote:That's true but it couldn't have been Grimlock anyway if they were going by the G1 toon...Grimlock would be built in the future. This is why they should have said what elements where in the past leading yo to Beast Wars mind




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Not necessarily ;)
Re: Hints at a potential Beast Wars movie from Bumblebee producer Lorenzo di Bonaventura (2003545)
Posted by ZeroWolf on January 9th, 2019 @ 9:36am CST
Wouldn't that mean that megs had turned the future Grimlock into a pred?
Re: Hints at a potential Beast Wars movie from Bumblebee producer Lorenzo di Bonaventura (2003546)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on January 9th, 2019 @ 9:38am CST
ZeroWolf wrote:Wouldn't that mean that megs had turned the future Grimlock into a pred?



As I said, that would have been more evil than cloning Dinobot For The Second Time. The change of heart finale would have still been equally as valid for Grimlock and would have made more sense given the lost 'Dark Glass' episode for Dinobot II.
Re: Hints at a potential Beast Wars movie from Bumblebee producer Lorenzo di Bonaventura (2005778)
Posted by Wheeljack84 on January 19th, 2019 @ 10:03pm CST
Would they really do a Beast Wars movie? It would mean no humans and actually fleshing out the Cybertronian characters.
Re: Hints at a potential Beast Wars movie from Bumblebee producer Lorenzo di Bonaventura (2005816)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on January 20th, 2019 @ 6:37am CST
The 'no humans' part is the bit I am dubious about. The people behind the Live Action Movies tend to fixate on the humans. Beast Wars Traditionally doesn't/shouldn't have them. Time will tell
Re: Hints at a potential Beast Wars movie from Bumblebee producer Lorenzo di Bonaventura (2005939)
Posted by Wheeljack84 on January 20th, 2019 @ 5:40pm CST
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:The 'no humans' part is the bit I am dubious about. The people behind the Live Action Movies tend to fixate on the humans. Beast Wars Traditionally doesn't/shouldn't have them. Time will tell


Yup it's a valid concern and a big reason I don't think a movie for Beast Wars ever gets off the ground.
Re: Hints at a potential Beast Wars movie from Bumblebee producer Lorenzo di Bonaventura (2014468)
Posted by william-james88 on March 13th, 2019 @ 12:11pm CDT
Anyone who had hopes up for a "Live Action" Beast Wars film may want to tone down some expectations. With the Bumblebee movie opening in Japan, Lorenzo Di Bonaventura was back for some more interviews. While the latest interview is in Japanese, and certain aspects may be lost in translation, there are some key points that we can get from it.

Mainly, that they way Paramount is set to do a Beast Wars film would not be financially viable. The estimates for a full running time Beast Wars live action film would be $450 Million USD. And Lorenzo was quick to point out that investors would not pay that. This does not mean that there couldn't be a Beast Wars themed segment or elements in another film. The fact that Paramount is also unsure about the interest in a Beast Wars themed movie from the general public is also an issue.

You can read the full interview from The River here and translate it for yourself and let us know what you derive from it.

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Re: Hints at a potential Beast Wars movie from Bumblebee producer Lorenzo di Bonaventura (2014469)
Posted by Agent 53 on March 13th, 2019 @ 12:28pm CDT
I've said it before, I'll say it again, given the Human-Light (like the weight of a grain of sugar compared to a brick) nature of a Beast Wars Film, wouldn't it make sense for it to be a fully animated film, like the proposed Cybertron film? That's got to be cheaper and easier for them, and these days with animation they can get pretty close to reality anyway.

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