High Quality Scans and English Summary of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Black Convoy Comic

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For all those wishing we had better scans of the pack in Takara legends comics and translations, we have something close for you. Sabrblade found high quality scans along with an english description of what is happening in the LG-EX Black Convoy pack-in comic (The Exclusive Takara toy based on Titans Return Optimus Prime). It is incredible how much can be packed into 4 pages.

Sabrblade wrote:At last, full high quality scans and an English summary of the Black Convoy pack-in comic.

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Since his reformatting into a heroic Autobot in a small protoform body, Black Convoy has been put in charge of a Dimensional Patrol protoform squadron charged with capturing the remaining Combatrons, who have fled to the Legends Universe. His soldiers locate the fugitives and forcibly reformat Greejeeber into one of them, and when his comrades reach out to help, protoform-Greejeeber turns on them and reformats them as well. Only Dolrailer gets away and urges Dark Ai to save herself, believing her to be their last hope. The arrival of a black tanker truck briefly makes him think Black Convoy has returned to normal, but the vehicle reveals itself to be a mass-produced Dimensional Patrol drone based on Convoy's old body and reformats him.

Refusing to leave the Legends world with Dark Ai still on the loose, Black Convoy and Skids announce that during their indefinite stay, the world's transtectors will be sealed off for the security's sake. As Autobot Axalon and Decepticon Tera-Kura alike grumble about this, Dark Ai appears at Axalon and reveals that she's carrying backup data of Black Convoy and the Combatrons' evil personalities. Rattrap and the Autobots agree to help her install the data into Black Convoy and make him turn on the Dimensional Patrol, just as the Patrol learns of Dark Ai's location and have their drones carpet bomb Axalon. The Autobot Headmasters fight back by incapacitating the drones with Skids's keep-out tape, modifying them into transtectors, and taking control of them. Black Convoy responds by scanning Hardhead and adopting a Headmaster form himself, but this is just what the Autobots had been hoping for: as soon as Black Convoy combines with one of the drones, Dark Ai enters its cockpit and installs the backup data, restoring Black Convoy to his "normal" self. Turning against the Dimensional Patrol, he helps the Autobots drive Skids and the protoform soldiers out of the Legends Universe.

In the aftermath, Black Convoy restores the other Combatrons and prepares to return home, now in command of new drone soldiers captured from the Patrol. He considers conquering the Legends Universe first, but writes it off as a joke when the Autobots train their guns at him. Dark Ai punishes him for the jest with an electrical whip while teaching him that the enemy of your enemy is your friend, surprising Rattrap with the fact that she's the domineering one of the two.

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Re: High Quality Scans and English Summary of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Black Convoy Comic (1901118)
Posted by Kurona on July 31st, 2017 @ 7:56pm CDT

I'm finding myself continually frustrated with how Takara's Triggerhappy looks. It's very minor, but the white guns seem to be tinted blue and what they've gone for with the face just doesn't look as good as Hasbro's. But I really want that Targetmaster...

Re: High Quality Scans and English Summary of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Black Convoy Comic (1901121)
Posted by Sigma Magnus on July 31st, 2017 @ 8:02pm CDT

Kurona wrote:I'm finding myself continually frustrated with how Takara's Triggerhappy looks. It's very minor, but the white guns seem to be tinted blue and what they've gone for with the face just doesn't look as good as Hasbro's. But I really want that Targetmaster...

I have the Hasbro version, and...to be honest, while the Targetmaster is neat, I just don't care. Hell, I don't even use his actual guns on mine, I just have him use the arm-mounted ones. And to me, the Hasbro face paint is better, and the peg hole on the Takara chest looks weird.

Not sure if that'll actually help your decision, I just wanted to throw that out there. ;)^

Re: High Quality Scans and English Summary of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Black Convoy Comic (1901130)
Posted by Emerje on July 31st, 2017 @ 8:38pm CDT

Kurona wrote:I'm finding myself continually frustrated with how Takara's Triggerhappy looks. It's very minor, but the white guns seem to be tinted blue and what they've gone for with the face just doesn't look as good as Hasbro's. But I really want that Targetmaster...

I feel like a lot of the colors in these photos come down to bad photography. The guns and other color-matched parts are different colors between the photos. But wouldn't it make more sense for those parts to be the same color as the pure white on the head?

I'm a little more concerned about the head being a lighter shade of blue from the rest of the body, that's consistent in all of the photos.

Emerje

Re: High Quality Scans and English Summary of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Black Convoy Comic (1901146)
Posted by primalxconvoy on July 31st, 2017 @ 11:28pm CDT

What? Scourge gets turned into an Autobot, and turns the other Cobatrons into Autobots, only to be fought by OTHER Autobots who want to turn him and his comrades BACK into Decepticons?

The heck?

Re: High Quality Scans and English Summary of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Black Convoy Comic (1901148)
Posted by Sabrblade on July 31st, 2017 @ 11:37pm CDT

primalxconvoy wrote:What? Scourge gets turned into an Autobot, and turns the other Cobatrons into Autobots, only to be fought by OTHER Autobots who want to turn him and his comrades BACK into Decepticons?

The heck?

Even as a good guy, Black Convoy maintains a Lawfully Evil brand of order that's just too rigid for the other good guys to tolerate.

Re: High Quality Scans and English Summary of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Black Convoy Comic (1901150)
Posted by Emerje on July 31st, 2017 @ 11:52pm CDT

primalxconvoy wrote:What? Scourge gets turned into an Autobot, and turns the other Cobatrons into Autobots, only to be fought by OTHER Autobots who want to turn him and his comrades BACK into Decepticons?

The heck?

My understanding was that Skids' group of dimension hoppers was going against the will of the other Autobots and Decepticons on the Legends planet so Rattrap's group helped Dark Ai change Black Convoy and the Combatrons back to normal. Decepticons on the planet aren't so much "evil" as they are unscrupulous corporate rivals (even the ones that aren't natives) so turning them back into Decepticons isn't as bad as it would be in other stories. Mainly they were just trying to get them away from Skids and protect their Transtectors.

Emerje

Re: High Quality Scans and English Summary of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Black Convoy Comic (1901174)
Posted by primalxconvoy on August 1st, 2017 @ 4:32am CDT

Cheers. It's still a weird story. Not really my cup of "Ocha", if you will.

Re: High Quality Scans and English Summary of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Black Convoy Comic (1901176)
Posted by Kurona on August 1st, 2017 @ 4:56am CDT

Sigma Magnus wrote:
Kurona wrote:I'm finding myself continually frustrated with how Takara's Triggerhappy looks. It's very minor, but the white guns seem to be tinted blue and what they've gone for with the face just doesn't look as good as Hasbro's. But I really want that Targetmaster...

I have the Hasbro version, and...to be honest, while the Targetmaster is neat, I just don't care. Hell, I don't even use his actual guns on mine, I just have him use the arm-mounted ones. And to me, the Hasbro face paint is better, and the peg hole on the Takara chest looks weird.

Not sure if that'll actually help your decision, I just wanted to throw that out there.

This is very true; if I was looking at it purely from a toy perspective, I wouldn't have much of a reason to go for Takara's over Hasbro's -- Hasbro's product is better, cheaper, and the only negative is it doesn't come with a Targetmaster which honestly doesn't look that amazing.

... buuuuut I want said Targetmaster. For headcanon fiction reasons.

Re: High Quality Scans and English Summary of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Black Convoy Comic (1901182)
Posted by Insurgent on August 1st, 2017 @ 5:33am CDT

I'm just hoping there will be some way of getting those targetmasters later down the line. Honestly, while I'd prefer those three jets have their targetmasters, the holes in their jet modes make me prefer the hasbro ones.

Re: High Quality Scans and English Summary of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Black Convoy Comic (1901183)
Posted by Kurona on August 1st, 2017 @ 5:43am CDT

Yeah, that's also a problem. Not one I particularly mind, though -- more areas to put guns are good, especially if they're right in the middle for symmetry. Not that the Targetmaster gun will look good anywhere...

Re: High Quality Scans and English Summary of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Black Convoy Comic (1901197)
Posted by Sigma Magnus on August 1st, 2017 @ 8:59am CDT

Buy both and resell the Takara without the Targetmaster? Oh, and what's this headcanon of yours?

Re: High Quality Scans and English Summary of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Black Convoy Comic (1901236)
Posted by Emerje on August 1st, 2017 @ 11:49am CDT

You know, if that rumor about a new Transformers subscription from Hasbro turns out to be true that would open the doors to things like a box of Targetmaster guns or pack them with six other characters like they did the Ultra Magnus Titan Master, and the rest of the Autobot Targetmasters (Crosshairs et al).

"Stay tuned!"

Emerje

Re: High Quality Scans and English Summary of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Black Convoy Comic (1901534)
Posted by Nemesis Destron on August 2nd, 2017 @ 11:32pm CDT

So did I imagine that Blitzwing will be a part of the Legends line? :???:

I guess when I read about Octane I simply assumed but I guess I was wrong...? #-o

Re: High Quality Scans and English Summary of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Black Convoy Comic (1901538)
Posted by Emerje on August 3rd, 2017 @ 12:00am CDT

Nemesis Destron wrote:So did I imagine that Blitzwing will be a part of the Legends line? I guess when I read about Octane I simply assumed but I guess I was wrong...?

It would be shocking if they didn't do him eventually since the previous figure was from the Generations line. I think the only reason why Octane happened first was because of Trypticon. I'm sure we'll hear something by the end of the year for a 2018 release.

Emerje

Re: High Quality Scans and English Summary of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Black Convoy Comic (1901562)
Posted by Va'al on August 3rd, 2017 @ 4:40am CDT

In other news from Takara Tomy, this time about the Transformers Legends line, we have confirmation thanks to site sponsor TFSource that the Clone Autobot set, Blitzwing, and Overlord from the Titans Return line will see their Japanese release as LG-58, LG-59, and LG-60!

Again, we still have no images for the three listings, but prices in USD will be approximately 35, 55, and 90.

Re: High Quality Scans and English Summary of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Black Convoy Comic (1901571)
Posted by Insurgent on August 3rd, 2017 @ 5:34am CDT

Do we know if the clones will be all 4, the Cloudraker/Wingspan pack or a Pounce/Fastlane pack?

Re: High Quality Scans and English Summary of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Black Convoy Comic (1901572)
Posted by Kurona on August 3rd, 2017 @ 5:35am CDT

Insurgent wrote:Do we know if the clones will be all 4, the Cloudraker/Wingspan pack or a Pounce/Fastlane pack?

We do not, but considering it's called 'clone set' rather than 'destron clone set' or 'cybertron clone set', I'm gonna assume it's all four.

Hey so disregard all that, the listing is actually for a "Clone BOT" set, so it's just Cloudraker and Fastlane for now.

Re: High Quality Scans and English Summary of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Black Convoy Comic (1901573)
Posted by Insurgent on August 3rd, 2017 @ 5:39am CDT

Hhhmmmmm...... I'll be keeping an eye on that, if I can't find hasbro Pounce and Fastlane for a proper price.

EDIT: Hhmhmmmmmm..... I'll be keeping an eye on that, if I can't find hasbro Fastlane for a proper price.

Re: High Quality Scans and English Summary of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Black Convoy Comic (1901575)
Posted by Kurona on August 3rd, 2017 @ 5:43am CDT

Honestly, with Takara releasing the clones like this, I'd fully expect Hasbro's Pounce and Fastlane to fall dramatically in price on ebay.

Re: High Quality Scans and English Summary of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Black Convoy Comic (1901585)
Posted by Insurgent on August 3rd, 2017 @ 6:46am CDT

I hope so. That would be perfect.

Re: High Quality Scans and English Summary of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Black Convoy Comic (1901589)
Posted by Burn on August 3rd, 2017 @ 6:50am CDT

psssst. Insurgent! Your sig is a wee bit large there mate! :wink:

Re: High Quality Scans and English Summary of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Black Convoy Comic (1901599)
Posted by Nemesis Destron on August 3rd, 2017 @ 7:28am CDT

Emerje wrote:
Nemesis Destron wrote:So did I imagine that Blitzwing will be a part of the Legends line? I guess when I read about Octane I simply assumed but I guess I was wrong...?

It would be shocking if they didn't do him eventually since the previous figure was from the Generations line. I think the only reason why Octane happened first was because of Trypticon. I'm sure we'll hear something by the end of the year for a 2018 release.

Emerje

That's some clairvoyance you got Emerje! :BOWDOWN:

My sincere thanks! :VEHI:

Re: High Quality Scans and English Summary of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Black Convoy Comic (1901605)
Posted by Kurona on August 3rd, 2017 @ 8:17am CDT

So, I'd like to draw everyone's attention towards the prices.

-As presumably a set of two Legends figures, we don't have a direct comparison for the Clone Bots at 36 USD; but it seems to be consistent and sensible alongside, say, Bumblebee at 20 USD.

-At 55 USD, Blitzwing is the same price as Octane and Broadside -- both of whom came with extras. We could be seeing a Titan Master vehicle or even a new Titan Master alongside him.

-Of most note is Overlord at 90 USD. As this price is nowhere near Ginrai's 130, we can finally put to rest that there won't be overly major changes -- it is higher than Sixshot's 80 and Blaster's 85 though, so make of that what you will. Probably accounts for a second and maybe third Titan Master.

Re: High Quality Scans and English Summary of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Black Convoy Comic (1901610)
Posted by Insurgent on August 3rd, 2017 @ 8:31am CDT

Burn wrote:psssst. Insurgent! Your sig is a wee bit large there mate!

Sorry. Been so long since I changed sigs, I forgot there were limits. And I only changed it because Photobucket decided to be greedy. I'll figure out a way to get my old one back later.

Re: High Quality Scans and English Summary of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Black Convoy Comic (1901618)
Posted by steals_your_goats on August 3rd, 2017 @ 9:02am CDT

Ginrai's original price on tfsource was $95 I believe. They most likely sold out, got a few extra in and then jacked up the price because they knew people would be desperate to get him. There could be more to their overlord but we won't know until he's revealed.

Re: High Quality Scans and English Summary of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Black Convoy Comic (1901629)
Posted by william-james88 on August 3rd, 2017 @ 9:37am CDT

Kurona wrote:So, I'd like to draw everyone's attention towards the prices.

-As presumably a set of two Legends figures, we don't have a direct comparison for the Clone Bots at 36 USD; but it seems to be consistent and sensible alongside, say, Bumblebee at 20 USD.

-At 55 USD, Blitzwing is the same price as Octane and Broadside -- both of whom came with extras. We could be seeing a Titan Master vehicle or even a new Titan Master alongside him.

-Of most note is Overlord at 90 USD. As this price is nowhere near Ginrai's 130, we can finally put to rest that there won't be overly major changes -- it is higher than Sixshot's 80 and Blaster's 85 though, so make of that what you will. Probably accounts for a second and maybe third Titan Master.

The US prices wont give us the best comparisons since we arnet taking into account the change in exchange during that time. It wasnt put in our news but here are the prices in yen

Compare those to Octane and Jinra
http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail ... agecnt%3D1

http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail ... agecnt%3D1

And take into account the small tax amiami adds, you now notice that Overlord has the exact same MSRP as Ginrai.

Re: High Quality Scans and English Summary of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Black Convoy Comic (1901631)
Posted by Kurona on August 3rd, 2017 @ 9:43am CDT

Well shoot, we're gonna get a badass Overlord

Re: High Quality Scans and English Summary of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Black Convoy Comic (1901634)
Posted by william-james88 on August 3rd, 2017 @ 9:52am CDT

Kurona wrote:Well shoot, we're gonna get a badass Overlord

But remember, this is very very close to the MSRP of Blaster, who had nothing almost different. The prices are not related to how much effort is put into them, its just a price point. So the only differnce might just be an extra titan master.

Re: High Quality Scans and English Summary of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Black Convoy Comic (1901644)
Posted by Sarahthecutevixen on August 3rd, 2017 @ 10:36am CDT

good seems I can get the clones at a reasonable price

Re: High Quality Scans and English Summary of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Black Convoy Comic (1901659)
Posted by william-james88 on August 3rd, 2017 @ 12:14pm CDT

GalvatronG1 wrote:good seems I can get the clones at a reasonable price

I much preffer the $17.99 price tag a clone 2 pack costs in the US.

Re: High Quality Scans and English Summary of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Black Convoy Comic (1901663)
Posted by Kurona on August 3rd, 2017 @ 12:21pm CDT

william-james88 wrote:
GalvatronG1 wrote:good seems I can get the clones at a reasonable price

I much preffer the $17.99 price tag a clone 2 pack costs in the US.

And I much prefer the $35.99 price tag compared to the $17.99 for one clone pack... on top of $99.99 for the other clone. Perspective is everything

Re: High Quality Scans and English Summary of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Black Convoy Comic (1901666)
Posted by william-james88 on August 3rd, 2017 @ 12:26pm CDT

Kurona wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
GalvatronG1 wrote:good seems I can get the clones at a reasonable price

I much preffer the $17.99 price tag a clone 2 pack costs in the US.

And I much prefer the $35.99 price tag compared to the $17.99 for one clone pack... on top of $99.99 for the other clone. Perspective is everything

HA!

Re: High Quality Scans and English Summary of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Black Convoy Comic (1901669)
Posted by Powered Convoy on August 3rd, 2017 @ 12:33pm CDT

Kurona wrote:So, I'd like to draw everyone's attention towards the prices.

-As presumably a set of two Legends figures, we don't have a direct comparison for the Clone Bots at 36 USD; but it seems to be consistent and sensible alongside, say, Bumblebee at 20 USD.

-At 55 USD, Blitzwing is the same price as Octane and Broadside -- both of whom came with extras. We could be seeing a Titan Master vehicle or even a new Titan Master alongside him.

-Of most note is Overlord at 90 USD. As this price is nowhere near Ginrai's 130, we can finally put to rest that there won't be overly major changes -- it is higher than Sixshot's 80 and Blaster's 85 though, so make of that what you will. Probably accounts for a second and maybe third Titan Master.

As someone else mentioned, you have to compare the Japanese yen prices, not US retailer prices.

Blitzwing is the same price as Octane and Broadside, which came with an extra Headmaster (Octane) and Titan Master vehicle (Broadside).

The Clones are 3500 Yen. Which is 500 Yen less than the price of the smaller two packs Takara releases (legends scale Transformer with Headmaster - Bumblebee & Spike, Kickback & Clouder, etc). These small 2 packs are 2000 yen, so the two clones being that twice that price minus 500 yen seems about right.

Overlord is the same price as Ginrai, who had significant changes. They are both 500 yen more than the other Leaders such as Sixshot. The 500 yen increase could simply be for the addition of an extra Headmaster (see Octane's price increase).

Randy

Re: High Quality Scans and English Summary of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Black Convoy Comic (1901674)
Posted by Emerje on August 3rd, 2017 @ 1:01pm CDT

Powered Convoy wrote:The Clones are 3500 Yen. Which is 500 Yen less than the price of the smaller two packs Takara releases (legends scale Transformer with Headmaster - Bumblebee & Spike, Kickback & Clouder, etc). These small 2 packs are 2000 yen, so the two clones being that twice that price minus 500 yen seems about right.

It's also about the same price as the Adventures box set of Rumble and Frenzy at ¥3,500. Granted, those were Scouts, but I think Takara Tomy is more interested in the price point than the contents. The Generations 2-packs were ¥3,600 which when accounting for inflation and removing the Micromasters is pretty much the same price.

Emerje

Re: High Quality Scans and English Summary of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Black Convoy Comic (1901676)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on August 3rd, 2017 @ 1:17pm CDT

The bigger question, I think, is how will Takara change up the clones compared to Hasbro's releases? What could they do, really? Will it be a situation as it is apparently with Legends Trypticon, where Takara is basically releasing the Hasbro version in their market with minimal changes?

Re: High Quality Scans and English Summary of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Black Convoy Comic (1901678)
Posted by Kurona on August 3rd, 2017 @ 1:19pm CDT

Wolfman Jake wrote:The bigger question, I think, is how will Takara change up the clones compared to Hasbro's releases? What could they do, really? Will it be a situation as it is apparently with Legends Trypticon, where Takara is basically releasing the Hasbro version in their market with minimal changes?

Likely just give them more cartoon-accurate decoes. I doubt there'd be any tooling they'd want to change; the tooling right now is about as accurate as could be.

Re: High Quality Scans and English Summary of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Black Convoy Comic (1901680)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on August 3rd, 2017 @ 1:24pm CDT

Kurona wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:The bigger question, I think, is how will Takara change up the clones compared to Hasbro's releases? What could they do, really? Will it be a situation as it is apparently with Legends Trypticon, where Takara is basically releasing the Hasbro version in their market with minimal changes?

Likely just give them more cartoon-accurate decoes. I doubt there'd be any tooling they'd want to change; the tooling right now is about as accurate as could be.

I just checked the cartoon representations of the clones. Hasbro's Fastlane and Cloudraker look pretty much on point with their G1 cartoon selves. As for Pounce and Wingspan, though, they could use some work, particular with their faces. I'm sure Takara will want to actually paint them, lol.

Re: High Quality Scans and English Summary of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Black Convoy Comic (1901703)
Posted by Insurgent on August 3rd, 2017 @ 2:40pm CDT

Remember, these will be based on their appearance in the Headmasters series space pirate ship episode (I think Pounce and Wingspan only appeared once again in the final episode, I don't remember the Autobot clones appearing again).Which means they will still have white faces.

Re: High Quality Scans and English Summary of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Black Convoy Comic (1901706)
Posted by Relic0037 on August 3rd, 2017 @ 2:44pm CDT

Looking forward to what :TAKARATOMY:

will do with Overlord considering the :HASBRO:

offering looks pretty good. I'm hoping for Mega & Giga as some form of Power(god)masters & either a third Titan Master sized figure for the head or just a regular head without the headmaster gimmick. We shall see...

Re: High Quality Scans and English Summary of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Black Convoy Comic (1901710)
Posted by william-james88 on August 3rd, 2017 @ 3:07pm CDT

Wolfman Jake wrote:The bigger question, I think, is how will Takara change up the clones compared to Hasbro's releases? What could they do, really? Will it be a situation as it is apparently with Legends Trypticon, where Takara is basically releasing the Hasbro version in their market with minimal changes?

If both releases are the same then why would we call one the Hasbro version?

Re: High Quality Scans and English Summary of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Black Convoy Comic (1901712)
Posted by Relic0037 on August 3rd, 2017 @ 3:12pm CDT

Looks like Big Bad Toystore is already taking Preorders on the new legends figures:

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/Search?Hi ... m_content=

They list the release date as Jan 2018.

They are also taking preorders on MP-40 due out next February:

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/Product/V ... ails/57562

Re: High Quality Scans and English Summary of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Black Convoy Comic (1901717)
Posted by Insurgent on August 3rd, 2017 @ 3:33pm CDT

william-james88 wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:The bigger question, I think, is how will Takara change up the clones compared to Hasbro's releases? What could they do, really? Will it be a situation as it is apparently with Legends Trypticon, where Takara is basically releasing the Hasbro version in their market with minimal changes?

If both releases are the same then why would we call one the Hasbro version?

Because one is from Hasbro, one is from Takara. There will be no difference to the figures, just the boxes and paperwork, but they will still be from different companies.

Re: High Quality Scans and English Summary of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Black Convoy Comic (1901755)
Posted by Sabrblade on August 3rd, 2017 @ 7:10pm CDT

Wolfman Jake wrote:
Kurona wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:The bigger question, I think, is how will Takara change up the clones compared to Hasbro's releases? What could they do, really? Will it be a situation as it is apparently with Legends Trypticon, where Takara is basically releasing the Hasbro version in their market with minimal changes?

Likely just give them more cartoon-accurate decoes. I doubt there'd be any tooling they'd want to change; the tooling right now is about as accurate as could be.

I just checked the cartoon representations of the clones. Hasbro's Fastlane and Cloudraker look pretty much on point with their G1 cartoon selves.

Which cartoon did you look at?

Cuz, Takara would go with the first one above.

Re: High Quality Scans and English Summary of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Black Convoy Comic (1901783)
Posted by ausbot on August 3rd, 2017 @ 10:16pm CDT

I hope Overlord comes with a G1 inspired gun.

Re: High Quality Scans and English Summary of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Black Convoy Comic (1901815)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on August 4th, 2017 @ 12:10am CDT

Sabrblade wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:
Kurona wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:The bigger question, I think, is how will Takara change up the clones compared to Hasbro's releases? What could they do, really? Will it be a situation as it is apparently with Legends Trypticon, where Takara is basically releasing the Hasbro version in their market with minimal changes?

Likely just give them more cartoon-accurate decoes. I doubt there'd be any tooling they'd want to change; the tooling right now is about as accurate as could be.

I just checked the cartoon representations of the clones. Hasbro's Fastlane and Cloudraker look pretty much on point with their G1 cartoon selves.
Which cartoon did you look at?

OR

Cuz, Takara would go with the first one above.

Yikes. Option 2, please!

So, to summarize, Hasbro released the Generations Autobot clones with white faces, which match their animation counterparts from G1, but the original toys from G1 had red faces, which were retained for the Headmasters cartoon back in the day. However, Hasbro has released the Generations Decepticon clones with white faces too, matching their original toys from G1 and NOT the cartoon. That's not surprising for Hasbro, given that they tend to skew more towards the toys than the cartoons as the "authority" on a character's look and paint apps. However, this is add odds with what they did for the Autobot clones. If Takara does red faces for their Autobot clones, would they dare to make yellow faces for their Decepticon clones? It wouldn't match the Headmasters cartoon OR the original toys, but their appearance from "The Rebirth." This would though give collectors a chance to mix and match to get a complete set of four that's either more "The Rebirth" accurate or "The Headmasters"/G1 toy accurate. Takara has done some wacky things we wouldn't expect before with deco choices, if only in the name of doing it differently the Hasbro has done it, even if it means sacrificing cartoon accuracy.

Re: High Quality Scans and English Summary of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Black Convoy Comic (1901837)
Posted by Albatross250 on August 4th, 2017 @ 2:45am CDT

ausbot wrote:I hope Overlord comes with a G1 inspired gun.

As well as a Neat Base Mode :lol:

might get some Additions with Overlord i hope, Missiles, Radar Dishes, Turrets and Repair Docks, as well as 2 Tankettes for him :-P

Re: High Quality Scans and English Summary of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Black Convoy Comic (1901897)
Posted by Sabrblade on August 4th, 2017 @ 9:07am CDT

Wolfman Jake wrote:Takara... sacrificing cartoon accuracy.

DOES NOT COMPUTE! DOES NOT COMPUTE!

Re: High Quality Scans and English Summary of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Black Convoy Comic (1902010)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on August 4th, 2017 @ 1:36pm CDT

Sabrblade wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:Takara... sacrificing cartoon accuracy.
DOES NOT COMPUTE! DOES NOT COMPUTE!

It's strange, but true! Sometimes Takara throws us a loop and gives us something decidedly "off model." I think they throw a couple of those in every once in a while just to make sure we're paying attention.

Re: High Quality Scans and English Summary of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Black Convoy Comic (1902103)
Posted by Sarahthecutevixen on August 4th, 2017 @ 8:16pm CDT

Like the colors on Unite warriors Blast-off?

Re: High Quality Scans and English Summary of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Black Convoy Comic (1902104)
Posted by Kurona on August 4th, 2017 @ 8:16pm CDT

I wish UW Blast Off's colours were toy-accurate...

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