Henkei Thrust Comparison Images And More

Maybe just me... but I like the look of the botcon one a lot more.

Great improvement on the Henkei version, but I still like my Botcon version better. The darker red on the Henkei version is closer to G1 and makes it more sinister.

They look pretty much the same actually, I thought the henkei wings ended up more round the waist area, I prefer my botcon version but its really kool for people to finally have a chance to pick thrust up

I do like the white “lightning” on the wings though, nice update

eventho i didn't buy either him or dirge, i do hope for the people who did they don't have the looseness like many of the TC's & SW's did

Isn't volume 2 supposed to be (Crystal) Ghost Starscream? A scan was posted here a while ago:
http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/ ... ol2/15174/

You can see Mirage in the foreground (despite the flash), So looks legitimate.


Anyway, prefer the Botcon Thrust, but the Henkei version is nothing to be ashamed of. It corrects the wings issue. I thought they were too short on the botcon version. I also thought Thrust (but not dirge) should have come with the same launchers as Starscream, Skywarp, Thundercracker, etc. to better match the original. Henkei version fixes this, also. So, I would not be disappointed with the Henkei version one bit. In fact, I'm picking it up, also

""In my opinion!"",,,,,,,,,,henkei is smokin that botcon--!!

HighPrime wrote:Isn't volume 2 supposed to be (Crystal) Ghost Starscream? A scan was posted here a while ago:
http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/ ... ol2/15174/

You can see Mirage in the foreground (despite the flash), So looks legitimate.

Yes, it is Starscream's Ghost, yes, it is legitimate. Apparently this Generations book will have a focus on Megatron(s).

Hmmm, I wonder how well the Seeker mold is holding up. Ghost might be enough to finish it off.

Love the wings, but not the colors. 'Nuff said

WOW, Hasbro's Version looks better. Way to go!!!

I'm happy with my Botcon Thrust (sentimentally and with it's appearance) over the Henkei.

I have Botcon Thrust too, and I must say that he fits the character better.

I'm getting this guy too, and will probably make a different character for him.

BotCon up.

The Henkei version looks awkward...

Henkei for me. I am a sucker for chrome. Mmmmmmmmmm.....chrome.

Why always the japanese versions make look like crap the american ones?. Then I have to pay more for the same figure.

Zeds wrote:Henkei for me. I am a sucker for chrome. Mmmmmmmmmm.....chrome.

Same here. I'm a sucker for the normal sized wings. The comparison pic makes those baby wings look funny on the botcon version.

Nice to see the Botcon owners aren't complaining about Henkie stealing their precious exclusive anymore. I knew it would be different enough that no one would mistake them. You get to keep your exclusive and those that don't mind paying $80 for the henkie version can get that.

On the other hand given the price tag this isn't much of a deal really. Ultimately the importers are paying almost as much for this guy as the Botcon figures cost to buy. Just saving on the secondary market prices.

shankz wrote:I'm a sucker for the normal sized wings. The comparison pic makes those baby wings look funny on the botcon version.

My thoughts as well. Botcon version looks very strange IMHO.

as much as i like the botcon version for financial reasons i think i might have to settle on the henkei, but i will add that with the wings done right i do like it a lot more

Koloth wrote:Nice to see the Botcon owners aren't complaining about Henkie stealing their precious exclusive anymore.

Don't start.

Since Botcon was miles away from me when these came out, I am going to have to settle with these version because I'm not paying a pretty penny for the Botcon ones. They aren't bad, but I don't like the stripes on their wings. They make Ramjet look like a misfit with the pair.

Counterpunch wrote:Don't start.

Sorry, didn't mean to ruffle any feathers. Just saying it was nice to see the thread hadn't gone down that rather inevitable path yet.

When I saw pics of the Botcon Thrust and Dirge, I really, really wanted to get them. However, it was about a year after they came out at Botcon and I wasn't about to pay hundreds of dollars for Thrust and for Dirge. Thankfully, they came out in the Henkei line.

Though I really, really like the Botcon Thrust better because of the burgundy and black colors over Henkei's cranberry and gray colors, I'll have to be satisfied with it for the price. Perhaps in time and with patience I will repaint it to look just like the Botcon version.

wolverinetodd wrote:When I saw pics of the Botcon Thrust and Dirge, I really, really wanted to get them. However, it was about a year after they came out at Botcon and I wasn't about to pay hundreds of dollars for Thrust and for Dirge. Thankfully, they came out in the Henkei line.

Carbon copy of my own thoughts on these. I too really wanted the whole set complete, and I was 3/6 of the way with the Classics versions, but without the Botcon three. After having made some unsuccesful, i.e. not high enough, bids on e-Bay for the Botcon set, I decided to go with Henkei, sold off my Classics Starscream, Ramjet and Skywarp (vs. UM) and bought the four available Henkei seekers. I'm still a bit unhappy with Henkei Ramjet, because that is the one who's paintjob I really don't like when compared to Classics Ramjet. But Henkei Thrust looks like a win for me, and I'm glad I've got him and Dirge on order... I especially like the white face on Thrust.

IMO, they're different enough to like both. However, since I don't have the BotCon version, it'll be great to have the Henkei version. Love the on-wing thrusters-finally. Thanks for the picts.

It doesn't matter. I'll never have either one.

Damn exclusives!!!

omega666 wrote:It doesn't matter. I'll never have either one.

Damn exclusives!!!

Get one per month, like I'm doing. Thrust first, then Dirge for me. Dirge just never had much of a personality IMO. Thundercracker and Thrust are my favorite seekers, alwyas have been. I think they did a good job on the Henkei versions, Ican feel just fine not having the Botcon set. Plus, I found a place to get the Botcon Thrust wing repros to make my own if I prefer at some point

I would have to go with the Botcon all the way. It's the closest when it comes to G1 tribute. The Henkei version does have coolness to it but what I don't dig is how the guns/missles ride so far out, almost close to the damn nose. My two cents with no sense!!

Archatron wrote: Dirge just never had much of a personality IMO.

Dirge is awesome. He's the creepy goth dude who likes bigging himself up. Excellent.

Diem wrote:

Archatron wrote: Dirge just never had much of a personality IMO.

Dirge is awesome. He's the creepy goth dude who likes bigging himself up. Excellent.

Hmm. Maybe I just never paid that much attention then to him. Thanks for the info on him though Diem, one of the reasons I love this place. If you don't know something or area little uneducated on something someone will clue you in, without making you feel dumb or in a "flamey" way.

Samsonator wrote:Maybe just me... but I like the look of the botcon one a lot more.

Agreed. The other one's wings and tail fins are HUGE.

WOW! got them both today! they are very nice in person! well worth the wait.... thanks Henkei.. please keep up the good work!

Mine arrived today. Thrust got overshadowed by the gorgeous perfection that is Masterpiece Grimlock, which is a good thing.

My Thrust has a kinky wing (and a half-arsed paintjob), some munt in the factory jammed it into the red wing socket at a funny angle and deformed the peg. Hopefully I can file and superglue it into some sort of working condition, as at the moment not only does the wing sit at an angle, it falls off whenever transformed.

However, I have Grimlock to console me!

Dread_Wing wrote:My Thrust has a kinky wing (and a half-arsed paintjob), some munt in the factory jammed it into the red wing socket at a funny angle and deformed the peg. Hopefully I can file and superglue it into some sort of working condition, as at the moment not only does the wing sit at an angle, it falls off whenever transformed.

That sucks. I'm really looking forward to these and if I get a bad one, I'm going to be pissed. After getting 2 bad MP Thundercrackers, I don't want any more bad Takara products this year.

Archatron wrote:

Diem wrote:

Archatron wrote: Dirge just never had much of a personality IMO.

Dirge is awesome. He's the creepy goth dude who likes bigging himself up. Excellent.

Hmm. Maybe I just never paid that much attention then to him. Thanks for the info on him though Diem, one of the reasons I love this place. If you don't know something or area little uneducated on something someone will clue you in, without making you feel dumb or in a "flamey" way.

No worries. Dirge doesn't act that way in the comics. Or the cartoon. Or anything else. It's all there in the Tech Specs.

Got mine today...

Dirge is beautiful. He's really, really nice. A+ I dare say I like him better than the BotCon version and that is saying a LOT since I think the deco on that figure is superb.

Thrust...I've got to say it and I'm sorry, but he's second best. Gentei Thrust is a runner up prize to the BotCon version. He's so close...but so far from "right". The wing-turbine implementation is awkward at best. I was hoping you could keep his wings in the downward, cartoon position, but realisticly, you just can't. He'll work for those who don't already have the BotCon version and won't pay $350 crazy dollars for it. For those with the BotCon version already though, don't feel like you need to hunt down the Gentei version.

I got figures before Counterpunch?? That's a rarity indeed.

I must admit that I love these two figures, both of them. I have both botcon Dirge and Thrust but considering that I've created new persona for their Henkei counterparts (Boltstrike and Torrent), they're not in direct competition.

I tend to agree with CP that Thrust isn't as good as his Botcon counterpart, but at the same time he's different enough that they can stand side by side on my shelf without invading the other's character.

Worth every penny in my eyes.

Mkall wrote:I got figures before Counterpunch?? That's a rarity indeed.

I must admit that I love these two figures, both of them. I have both botcon Dirge and Thrust but considering that I've created new persona for their Henkei counterparts (Boltstrike and Torrent), they're not in direct competition.

I tend to agree with CP that Thrust isn't as good as his Botcon counterpart, but at the same time he's different enough that they can stand side by side on my shelf without invading the other's character.

Worth every penny in my eyes.

Glad to hear that you've found value you in them even though you already had the BC verisons. Not having the BC versions, I like hearing that these versions are good enough that those with both sets still really like them.

I'd love to have the BC versions too or in lieu of these but with these available now, not spending 300-400 dollars on them frees up $ to blow on other figures... like Strafe and Ghost SS.

Mkall wrote:I got figures before Counterpunch?? That's a rarity indeed.

I must admit that I love these two figures, both of them. I have both botcon Dirge and Thrust but considering that I've created new persona for their Henkei counterparts (Boltstrike and Torrent), they're not in direct competition.

I tend to agree with CP that Thrust isn't as good as his Botcon counterpart, but at the same time he's different enough that they can stand side by side on my shelf without invading the other's character.

Worth every penny in my eyes.

Oh, I agree, if but for Dirge alone. Dirge is brilliant.

Thrust is really interesting as well. Don't his wings feel fragile though?

Counterpunch wrote:Thrust is really interesting as well. Don't his wings feel fragile though?

Now that you mention it, kinda yeah.

My Dirge and Thrust are scheduled to arrive today. Looking at these comparison pics, I'm slightly favoring Henkei on this one. Of course, since I haven't got an 07 Set, it's a moot point.

I like the wings on the Henkei just a bit better, the Botcon wings look too short to me. It could just be the angle of the picture, I dunno.

I hafta say though, that I prefer the black of the BotCon version over the grey of the Henkei, just for style, but the grey does give him a more G1 feel. I think I can settle the whole exclusivity debate now: Henkei Thrust is G1, BotCon Thrust is G2. The black just makes him look more dark and sinister, for some reason it feels like G2 to me.

hey , you think somebody out there is going to split those thrusters and try to put them back together around the wings ?- that would be kinda cool to see pics. or even a Utube of something like that-- what if it is easy to do- may need a couple sharp blades or a dermal- - just it might look aliitle more like the G1 thrust if this were possible...

glazer wrote:hey , you think somebody out there is going to split those thrusters and try to put them back together around the wings ?- that would be kinda cool to see pics. or even a Utube of something like that-- what if it is easy to do- may need a couple sharp blades or a dermal- - just it might look aliitle more like the G1 thrust if this were possible...

At this price, that would be brave.

I don't think that it's possible to do that type of modification. Of starters, the fan in mono-directional, meaning that it's only molded with one side. The other side is most likely a dull grey sitting inside the red sheath that attaches it to the wings.

DevastaTTor wrote:

glazer wrote:hey , you think somebody out there is going to split those thrusters and try to put them back together around the wings ?- that would be kinda cool to see pics. or even a Utube of something like that-- what if it is easy to do- may need a couple sharp blades or a dermal- - just it might look aliitle more like the G1 thrust if this were possible...

At this price, that would be brave.

agreed although -still would still be neat to see-- i think

Mkall wrote:I don't think that it's possible to do that type of modification. Of starters, the fan in mono-directional, meaning that it's only molded with one side. The other side is most likely a dull grey sitting inside the red sheath that attaches it to the wings.

it can be done-- i got it all planned out - on how to do it-- but- that is alot of cash flow- if by chance i F it up-mainly the splitting of the thruster--easy to split or a bitch

Personally I'm just happy they fixed the shoulder canon problem that plagued Thundercracker. Both Thrust and Dirge feel nice and nice. At least mine do.

They also look great. I have only had them for about 15 minutes now but I like what they did with them. Dirge is near perfect. Better than Botcon because he is himself rather than a straight up repaint of Ramjet.

Trust I like. He was the one I bought the set for. The white lighten bolts I could do without but the rest is perfect. Couldn't be happier with them.

And with that I think I might be done with collecting for a while. Already got MP Grimlock. Not real interested in the movie toys. There are no more classics for me to pick up. And Animated I just don't care enough about. Worse until G.I.Joe releases Mindbender or the rest of Cobra-la I have all the figures I want from that collection as well. Guess I should start putting my toy money into stocks or something.

I got Thrust Monday, it's nice minus a few paint mistakes. Now I HAVE to get Dirge and fast, they're going quick

I got my Dirge & Thrust last Saturday and they are great figures. Really happy with them. I never got the BC versions so this fills in my Classics seeker collection in quite nicely. If you are on the fence I'd recommend getting them.

hey , for us beginers on collecting henkei Exl. stuff - quick ques. what is the total number made of each? thanks for your time

Dread_Wing wrote:
My Thrust has a kinky wing (and a half-arsed paintjob), some munt in the factory jammed it into the red wing socket at a funny angle and deformed the peg. Hopefully I can file and superglue it into some sort of working condition, as at the moment not only does the wing sit at an angle, it falls off whenever transformed.

Mine had the exact same problem with the wing. The right wing stuck up at a weird angle. It looked like shit. I just worked on the peg and gradually little by little over a day bent it into shape with a pair of plyers (I put a piece of fabric between the plyers and plastic to reduce any teeth marks). The peg still feels real strong, its just stressed some now. It can still come out of the socket, but it stays in better now that its straight.

No problem with the paint on either fig though.

glazer wrote:hey , for us beginers on collecting henkei Exl. stuff - quick ques. what is the total number made of each? thanks for your time

The answer is, we don't know.