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Height Comparisons for Upcoming Transformers Kingdom Optimus Primal

Transformers News: Height Comparisons for Upcoming Transformers Kingdom Optimus Primal

Wednesday, November 18th, 2020 11:41PM CST

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We knew that there would be a significant difference in height between the two first voyagers in the upcoming Transformers War for Cybertron Kingdom line. However, we weren't sure if that meant Cyclonus would be much taller than normal or if Optimus Primal would be shorter than normal (normal being your standard faction leader, like Optimus Prime and Megatron, which are usually voyager height). Well, while we do not have comparisons for Cyclonus, we do have some for Primal and he isn't all that tall. You can see the images below which we found on Vector Sigma's Facebook page.

Transformers News: Height Comparisons for Upcoming Transformers Kingdom Optimus Primal

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Re: Height Comparisons for Upcoming Transformers Kingdom Optimus Primal (2087281)
Posted by Sabrblade on November 18th, 2020 @ 11:49pm CST
I am okay with this height. This allows for Rhinox and Dinobot to both be taller than him.
Re: Height Comparisons for Upcoming Transformers Kingdom Optimus Primal (2087282)
Posted by Agent 53 on November 19th, 2020 @ 12:05am CST
It would make sense for the Maximals and Predacons to be smaller than the Autobots and Decepticons, if we remember from the show they were significantly shorter than them
Re: Height Comparisons for Upcoming Transformers Kingdom Optimus Primal (2087283)
Posted by Sabrblade on November 19th, 2020 @ 12:13am CST
Agent 53 wrote:It would make sense for the Maximals and Predacons to be smaller than the Autobots and Decepticons, if we remember from the show they were significantly shorter than them
Yeah, but this isn't adhering to that particular scale since the average Maximals and Predacons were closer to human-sized. They'd need Legends and Legion toys to better match that.
Re: Height Comparisons for Upcoming Transformers Kingdom Optimus Primal (2087285)
Posted by optimeow on November 19th, 2020 @ 1:22am CST
Deluxe size for Voyager prices :-x
Re: Height Comparisons for Upcoming Transformers Kingdom Optimus Primal (2087286)
Posted by Emerje on November 19th, 2020 @ 1:40am CST
optimeow wrote:Deluxe size for Voyager prices :-x

Tall Deluxe size, but without the large gaps and hollow spots. This is the third WFC line, we should be used to classes no longer being based on height.

Emerje
Re: Height Comparisons for Upcoming Transformers Kingdom Optimus Primal (2087288)
Posted by Nexus Knight on November 19th, 2020 @ 2:05am CST
Not gonna lie, the "who the hell is this guy" pose the OPs have for OP in the second picture caused me to audible laugh. Bravo, photo taker.
Re: Height Comparisons for Upcoming Transformers Kingdom Optimus Primal (2087290)
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on November 19th, 2020 @ 2:49am CST
Emerje wrote:
optimeow wrote:Deluxe size for Voyager prices :-x

Tall Deluxe size, but without the large gaps and hollow spots. This is the third WFC line, we should be used to classes no longer being based on height.

Emerje

Not to mention he also has two swords, posable fingers, and his two over the shoulder guns, so he's quite better both accessory and posability wise compared to deluxes
Re: Height Comparisons for Upcoming Transformers Kingdom Optimus Primal (2087291)
Posted by blackeyedprime on November 19th, 2020 @ 3:02am CST
optimeow wrote:Deluxe size for Voyager prices :-x



Standard sized deluxe with accessories, that you have to make another purchase to get all of his accessories. Nothing new about that :(

Not sure I'll be able to rationalise £40 for a netflix deco of him but Hasbro can pull out all the stops when it is least expected.
Re: Height Comparisons for Upcoming Transformers Kingdom Optimus Primal (2087295)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on November 19th, 2020 @ 7:10am CST
I have no issues with the size. He looks good.
Re: Height Comparisons for Upcoming Transformers Kingdom Optimus Primal (2087308)
Posted by Master Farr 1 on November 19th, 2020 @ 11:22am CST
You know somehing? I'm fine with the size,
Re: Height Comparisons for Upcoming Transformers Kingdom Optimus Primal (2087309)
Posted by Overcracker on November 19th, 2020 @ 11:49am CST
He is kind of small... but I guess it makes up for that with the transformation, and features. Accessory count is kind of light at 2 swords, and yes you need a fossilizer to give him his mace.

Heck even the 10th anniversary/Cybertron Primal had a big hunk of plastic hover board thrown in.

This Primal looks to be about the same height but chunkier / heavier than that one though. Still $30 is bordering on excessive. While depending on the actual transformation and features may or may ot be palatable for some.

For me, still keeping him pre-ordered unless there's something in a future review I really dislike about him.

Last time I passed on an Optimus Primal for not feeling him too much at the time it took me 2 decades and a repaint / release to get him at a decent price.
Re: Height Comparisons for Upcoming Transformers Kingdom Optimus Primal (2087312)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on November 19th, 2020 @ 1:42pm CST
Know what? I'm perfectly fine with smoll Primal. He'll still have the "meat" to justify the Voyager cost.
Re: Height Comparisons for Upcoming Transformers Kingdom Optimus Primal (2087313)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on November 19th, 2020 @ 1:45pm CST
Emerje wrote:
optimeow wrote:Deluxe size for Voyager prices :-x

Tall Deluxe size, but without the large gaps and hollow spots. This is the third WFC line, we should be used to classes no longer being based on height.

Emerje


Yup.

The Siege Ironhide mold may be tall, but you could make an icecube tray out of him for all the gaps and hollows.
Re: Height Comparisons for Upcoming Transformers Kingdom Optimus Primal (2087315)
Posted by Master Farr 1 on November 19th, 2020 @ 2:42pm CST
You know somehing? I'm fine with the size,
Re: Height Comparisons for Upcoming Transformers Kingdom Optimus Primal (2087317)
Posted by durroth on November 19th, 2020 @ 3:03pm CST
I'm fine with the size. We have to take some things into account with this comparison.

1) Ironhide is a tall deluxe who accomplishes his size by being very hollow. He probably weighs about as much as prowl if we're being honest.

2) Primal is gonna be a hefty boy. Before we even get into parts count he appears solid enough to weigh in at about the same plastic volume as his counterparts if we put them on a scale, and he's made up of quite a few parts at that, before we even take the paint budget into account. This is gonna be a thicc munkey.

3) he'll probably look pretty good riding PotP Optimus Primal as a hover board
Re: Height Comparisons for Upcoming Transformers Kingdom Optimus Primal (2087318)
Posted by Razorbeast88 on November 19th, 2020 @ 3:12pm CST
Him being short means I can just pin him up against siege megs and leader prime against dino megs for a crossover 2v2
Re: Height Comparisons for Upcoming Transformers Kingdom Optimus Primal (2087328)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on November 19th, 2020 @ 4:51pm CST
Emerje wrote:
optimeow wrote:Deluxe size for Voyager prices :-x

Tall Deluxe size, but without the large gaps and hollow spots. This is the third WFC line, we should be used to classes no longer being based on height.

Emerje


I will never be used to that.

Also, I've always been told size doesn't matter.
Re: Height Comparisons for Upcoming Transformers Kingdom Optimus Primal (2087329)
Posted by sol magnus on November 19th, 2020 @ 4:52pm CST
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Emerje wrote:
optimeow wrote:Deluxe size for Voyager prices :-x

Tall Deluxe size, but without the large gaps and hollow spots. This is the third WFC line, we should be used to classes no longer being based on height.

Emerje


I will never be used to that.

Also, I've always been told size doesn't matter.

That implies an unfortunate circumstance.
Re: Height Comparisons for Upcoming Transformers Kingdom Optimus Primal (2087332)
Posted by Emerje on November 19th, 2020 @ 5:40pm CST
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Emerje wrote:
optimeow wrote:Deluxe size for Voyager prices :-x

Tall Deluxe size, but without the large gaps and hollow spots. This is the third WFC line, we should be used to classes no longer being based on height.

Emerje


I will never be used to that.

Also, I've always been told size doesn't matter.

That's right, size doesn't matter. A short and girthy Voyager is every bit as good as a tall skinny one. ;)

Emerje
Re: Height Comparisons for Upcoming Transformers Kingdom Optimus Primal (2087334)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on November 19th, 2020 @ 5:44pm CST
Sooo, any staff or heads of the site get a box from Hasbro that they were only allowed to open today on a video chat?
Re: Height Comparisons for Upcoming Transformers Kingdom Optimus Primal (2087340)
Posted by william-james88 on November 19th, 2020 @ 6:18pm CST
Overcracker wrote:He is kind of small... but I guess it makes up for that with the transformation


Primal has a rather simple transformation comparing to other figures we have gotten in the WFC trilogy, his arms don't even change between modes.
Re: Height Comparisons for Upcoming Transformers Kingdom Optimus Primal (2087341)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on November 19th, 2020 @ 6:32pm CST
william-james88 wrote:
Overcracker wrote:He is kind of small... but I guess it makes up for that with the transformation


Primal has a rather simple transformation comparing to other figures we have gotten in the WFC trilogy, his arms don't even change between modes.

but he does have the pop-out guns in his arms, I'd sooner take that :michaelbay:
Re: Height Comparisons for Upcoming Transformers Kingdom Optimus Primal (2087342)
Posted by Autobot N on November 19th, 2020 @ 6:39pm CST
Odd that Primal's size is generating outrage, but the vast majority of people seem completely fine with SS Hot Rod. Different reactions to essentially the same situation.
Re: Height Comparisons for Upcoming Transformers Kingdom Optimus Primal (2087344)
Posted by sol magnus on November 19th, 2020 @ 6:48pm CST
Autobot N wrote:Odd that Primal's size is generating outrage, but the vast majority of people seem completely fine with SS Hot Rod. Different reactions to essentially the same situation.

What's wrong with Hotrod's size? The 86 guys were all on the large side.
Re: Height Comparisons for Upcoming Transformers Kingdom Optimus Primal (2087346)
Posted by Autobot N on November 19th, 2020 @ 6:53pm CST
sol magnus wrote:
Autobot N wrote:Odd that Primal's size is generating outrage, but the vast majority of people seem completely fine with SS Hot Rod. Different reactions to essentially the same situation.

What's wrong with Hotrod's size? The 86 guys were all on the large side.
He's a Deluxe-sized Voyager like Optimus Primal (though, Primal is more of an in-between since he's the same size as Ironhide, who is already tall for a Deluxe).
Re: Height Comparisons for Upcoming Transformers Kingdom Optimus Primal (2087347)
Posted by sol magnus on November 19th, 2020 @ 7:00pm CST
Autobot N wrote:
sol magnus wrote:
Autobot N wrote:Odd that Primal's size is generating outrage, but the vast majority of people seem completely fine with SS Hot Rod. Different reactions to essentially the same situation.

What's wrong with Hotrod's size? The 86 guys were all on the large side.
He's a Deluxe-sized Voyager like Optimus Primal (though, Primal is more of an in-between since he's the same size as Ironhide, who is already tall for a Deluxe).

He comes with a lot of accessories. Size is important, but not the end all be all. I'll be just fine with my 30.00 Hot Rod.
Re: Height Comparisons for Upcoming Transformers Kingdom Optimus Primal (2087348)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on November 19th, 2020 @ 7:17pm CST
Autobot N wrote:Odd that Primal's size is generating outrage, but the vast majority of people seem completely fine with SS Hot Rod. Different reactions to essentially the same situation.

I'm pretty sure it's the same few people complaining about the same thing in both threads >:oP
Re: Height Comparisons for Upcoming Transformers Kingdom Optimus Primal (2087350)
Posted by blackeyedprime on November 19th, 2020 @ 7:41pm CST
Poor old punch/counterpunch never got called a tall deluxe but people like mentioning the size of their Iron...hide.

Twintwist/Topspin even Kup got retconned as tall deluxes but not poor ol' Punch it's like the shrinking over time chocolate bars.
Re: Height Comparisons for Upcoming Transformers Kingdom Optimus Primal (2087357)
Posted by william-james88 on November 19th, 2020 @ 10:03pm CST
Autobot N wrote:Odd that Primal's size is generating outrage, but the vast majority of people seem completely fine with SS Hot Rod. Different reactions to essentially the same situation.


I heard just as much annoyance with Hot Rod.
Re: Height Comparisons for Upcoming Transformers Kingdom Optimus Primal (2087358)
Posted by Ultra Markus on November 19th, 2020 @ 10:34pm CST
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Emerje wrote:
optimeow wrote:Deluxe size for Voyager prices :-x

Tall Deluxe size, but without the large gaps and hollow spots. This is the third WFC line, we should be used to classes no longer being based on height.

Emerje


I will never be used to that.

Also, I've always been told size doesn't matter.
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Re: Height Comparisons for Upcoming Transformers Kingdom Optimus Primal (2087397)
Posted by william-james88 on November 20th, 2020 @ 11:52am CST
Seibertron got the upcoming Transformers Kingdom figures and while we have some galleries coming up, we wanted to give you certain comparisons in the meantime. Here we see that Cyclonus is your standard voyager height and he is compared to previous Cyclonus toys as well as previous sweeps. We also have Optimus Primal with many previous renditions. Let us know what you think and stay tuned for more to come!

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Re: Height Comparisons for Upcoming Transformers Kingdom Optimus Primal (2087398)
Posted by Razorbeast88 on November 20th, 2020 @ 11:54am CST
Kewllllll
Re: Height Comparisons for Upcoming Transformers Kingdom Optimus Primal (2087401)
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on November 20th, 2020 @ 12:03pm CST
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Well, that's a surpise
Re: Height Comparisons for Upcoming Transformers Kingdom Optimus Primal (2087402)
Posted by Talon523 on November 20th, 2020 @ 12:12pm CST
I thought for sure, Huffer would be a mini Prime repaint. I like the looks of him there in low res. Will there be a pipes? Probably a selects release.
Re: Height Comparisons for Upcoming Transformers Kingdom Optimus Primal (2087403)
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on November 20th, 2020 @ 12:14pm CST
Talon523 wrote:I thought for sure, Huffer would be a mini Prime repaint. I like the looks of him there in low res. Will there be a pipes? Probably a selects release.

According to Appolux there should be a mainline release of Pipes that looks just as accurate, but comes with two little fusion cannon like weapons
Re: Height Comparisons for Upcoming Transformers Kingdom Optimus Primal (2087404)
Posted by Razorbeast88 on November 20th, 2020 @ 12:14pm CST
Is that dinobot I see?
Re: Height Comparisons for Upcoming Transformers Kingdom Optimus Primal (2087405)
Posted by Razorbeast88 on November 20th, 2020 @ 12:15pm CST
Oh no thats airrazor nvm
Re: Height Comparisons for Upcoming Transformers Kingdom Optimus Primal (2087406)
Posted by Talon523 on November 20th, 2020 @ 12:16pm CST
Sentinel_Primal wrote:
Talon523 wrote:I thought for sure, Huffer would be a mini Prime repaint. I like the looks of him there in low res. Will there be a pipes? Probably a selects release.

According to Appolux there should be a mainline release of Pipes that looks just as accurate, but comes with two little fusion cannon like weapons


Awesome. Thanks for the info.
Re: Height Comparisons for Upcoming Transformers Kingdom Optimus Primal (2087407)
Posted by Nemesis Primal on November 20th, 2020 @ 12:18pm CST
Airazor looks pretty great (although I don't see the missiles Apollux mentioned, accessories are hard to track in this packaging), Ractonite's full body looks hilariously stupid and I love it, and while I have zero interest in Huffer, that should make a nice Pipes, especially with what Apollux said.

EDIT: Also, this is the EXACT same set of Deluxes as that alleged wave breakdown "leak" from 4chan, and since the only one saying it was fake was Pixelmaster, who has since soft-confirmed a bunch of the Selects in said leak (and who's credibility some people are doubting now when it comes to exact details), I feel like that leak might be right after all.
Re: Height Comparisons for Upcoming Transformers Kingdom Optimus Primal (2087408)
Posted by Rtron on November 20th, 2020 @ 12:22pm CST
Huffer! Yes! Now he and Rattrap can complain together for eternity.
Re: Height Comparisons for Upcoming Transformers Kingdom Optimus Primal (2087409)
Posted by Nuclearxpotato on November 20th, 2020 @ 12:23pm CST
Looking at Airrazor's box, she has the same kibble hiding technique as Arcee. There's a hole cut into the box that she slips into. Whether or not this means she has a big backpack, I don't know.
Re: Height Comparisons for Upcoming Transformers Kingdom Optimus Primal (2087410)
Posted by GeekyGamer Gal on November 20th, 2020 @ 12:24pm CST
Nuclearxpotato wrote:Looking at Airrazor's box, she has the same kibble hiding technique as Arcee. There's a hole cut into the box that she slips into. Whether or not this means she has a big backpack, I don't know.

If she does have kibble then it must be the wings. IMO.

I'm still probably going to get her, but I'd still like to see more images of her first.
Re: Height Comparisons for Upcoming Transformers Kingdom Optimus Primal (2087411)
Posted by Rtron on November 20th, 2020 @ 12:28pm CST
Nuclearxpotato wrote:Looking at Airrazor's box, she has the same kibble hiding technique as Arcee. There's a hole cut into the box that she slips into. Whether or not this means she has a big backpack, I don't know.


I think all of the boxes have that space, it gives the cardboard some separation from the back of the packaging to compensate the lack of a plastic tray. But yeah, also useful to keep accessories and backpacks. If it's hiding anything in the case of Airazor, it's probably her wings.

I also thought she was Dinobot at first glance! What's up with that? Glad she isn't, though, would've been seriously lacking in blue.

Primal is looking just... well, you know the joke, I'm not making it again. He's great.
Re: Height Comparisons for Upcoming Transformers Kingdom Optimus Primal (2087412)
Posted by sol magnus on November 20th, 2020 @ 12:31pm CST
I'll be getting all of these minus the Arcee.
Re: Height Comparisons for Upcoming Transformers Kingdom Optimus Primal (2087413)
Posted by blackeyedprime on November 20th, 2020 @ 12:31pm CST
Glad I got the MP Primal it wins out over the Kingdom Primal though at least its a cheaper option for people.

Airrazor looks good but hard to tell, it might have cheetor like issues.

The fossiliser looks like it ate a legends figure or a duplo block. Looking forward to better images. Seems kinda reminiscent of Killpunch/guildart and the cybertron rhino guy with his bulk and if he has a hidden weapon/part for one of the other bots.

Huffer looks good and deluxe sized rather than cliffjumper. I'll still be keeping my wrecker wannabe botcon ikkle Huffer to hang with the mini bots but will likely pick up this Huffer too.
Re: Height Comparisons for Upcoming Transformers Kingdom Optimus Primal (2087415)
Posted by Razorbeast88 on November 20th, 2020 @ 12:33pm CST
I gotta say I've never cared much for Huffer but his figure looks well done so far! Nice paint job

And im excited to see better images of airrazor, a figure that actually looks like the character for once haha
Re: Height Comparisons for Upcoming Transformers Kingdom Optimus Primal (2087416)
Posted by ZeroWolf on November 20th, 2020 @ 12:37pm CST
blackeyedprime wrote:Glad I got the MP Primal it wins out over the Kingdom Primal though at least its a cheaper option for people.

Airrazor looks good but hard to tell, it might have cheetor like issues.

The fossiliser looks like it ate a legends figure or a duplo block. Looking forward to better images. Seems kinda reminiscent of Killpunch/guildart and the cybertron rhino guy with his bulk and if he has a hidden weapon/part for one of the other bots.

Huffer looks good and deluxe sized rather than cliffjumper. I'll still be keeping my wrecker wannabe botcon ikkle Huffer to hang with the mini bots but will likely pick up this Huffer too.

I wouldn't be so sure of huffers size, he's got more of a cardboard base and the picture has been digitally stitched together, I think he's like Cliffjumper.
Re: Height Comparisons for Upcoming Transformers Kingdom Optimus Primal (2087418)
Posted by william-james88 on November 20th, 2020 @ 12:57pm CST
Big day for Transformers Kingdom news. We have our first look at the second wave of deluxe figures. That includes Airazor, Huffer, Ractonite (the fossilizer we previously saw) and a repackages Earthrise Arcee.

It is important to note that you rate not seeing the complete figures when it comes to Airazor and Arcee since the cardboard is hiding their kibble and people who have seen the Airrazor figure did comment how the large falcon wings are present in robot mode, making a large backpack.

Also, Pipes is said to be coming as a mainline figure in a later wave.

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Re: Height Comparisons for Upcoming Transformers Kingdom Optimus Primal (2087419)
Posted by Seibertron on November 20th, 2020 @ 12:57pm CST
Nemesis Primal wrote:Airazor looks pretty great (although I don't see the missiles Apollux mentioned, accessories are hard to track in this packaging), Ractonite's full body looks hilariously stupid and I love it, and while I have zero interest in Huffer, that should make a nice Pipes, especially with what Apollux said.


The accessories are accessed from the box side of the packaging in the hollow area underneath their feet. The collectible "Golden Disc" card is accessed from the backside as well.
Re: Height Comparisons for Upcoming Transformers Kingdom Optimus Primal (2087420)
Posted by william-james88 on November 20th, 2020 @ 12:59pm CST
Rtron wrote:
Nuclearxpotato wrote:Looking at Airrazor's box, she has the same kibble hiding technique as Arcee. There's a hole cut into the box that she slips into. Whether or not this means she has a big backpack, I don't know.


I think all of the boxes have that space, it gives the cardboard some separation from the back of the packaging to compensate the lack of a plastic tray. But yeah, also useful to keep accessories and backpacks. If it's hiding anything in the case of Airazor, it's probably her wings.


We know it's her wings, we can see how they will be prominent on her robot mode on her box art.

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