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Haslab Updates: Deathsaurus is Halfway There and Victory Saber Shipping Update

Transformers News: Haslab Updates: Deathsaurus is Halfway There and Victory Saber Shipping Update

Wednesday, November 2nd, 2022 12:34PM CDT

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Good time to be a Transformers fan when it comes to Haslab projects. It's not even been a week since Deathsaurus was revealed and w are already halfway there for the toy to be backed.

There are still 40 days to go, hopefully everyone backs it soon so that we can start getting that momentum running for all tiers to be reached. Speaking of the 40 days till the end of the campaign, something pretty big might happen within this time as well. Hasbro brand marketer Ben MacCrae wrote on Twitter that they hope Victory Saber ships before then as well. Here is the original quote. Exciting times!

" Hoping to get everybody’s Victory Sabers in hand before the end of the Deathsaurus campaign”.

You can back Deathsaurus at this link: https://hasbropulse.com/products/transf ... eathsaurus

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Re: Haslab Updates: Deathsaurus is Halfway There and Victory Saber Shipping Update (2148479)
Posted by o.supreme on November 2nd, 2022 @ 1:34pm CDT
I think of all the Haslabs that both went into production and had bonus tiers, the GIJoe Skystriker is the only one to actually fund, but not pass all it's tiers, so far.
Re: Haslab Updates: Deathsaurus is Halfway There and Victory Saber Shipping Update (2148481)
Posted by griftimus prime on November 2nd, 2022 @ 2:05pm CDT
half way sure. notice how big the start was but its gone snail speed now. to anyone getting this good luck with those stretch goals.
Re: Haslab Updates: Deathsaurus is Halfway There and Victory Saber Shipping Update (2148483)
Posted by Bounti76 on November 2nd, 2022 @ 2:16pm CDT
griftimus prime wrote:half way sure. notice how big the start was but its gone snail speed now. to anyone getting this good luck with those stretch goals.


Yeah, but this hasn't even been active for a week yet. Plus, they still haven't added in the international preorders and such. I don't think Star Saber fully funded until a couple of weeks before the deadline.
Re: Haslab Updates: Deathsaurus is Halfway There and Victory Saber Shipping Update (2148498)
Posted by MaximalNui on November 2nd, 2022 @ 3:35pm CDT
blackeyedprime wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:
blackeyedprime wrote:Funny thing is if deathsaurus had been in legacy as planned I'd have picked him up.

I think had he been in Legacy, he'd be far less then the beast seen here. They would have taken far more short cuts with him.


Dunno a commander class figure has a lot of wriggle room selling them at $90 when they have sold them for $45. Easier to charge the fandom way more with a 'haslab' :(

william-james88 wrote:
Moonshot wrote:I think if it was sold at Commander class, it would have not been that great. Prolly much smaller and almost none of the accessories. Lucky to have even one breastforce guy. I am glad they chose to make it a HasLab figure.

Now I am even more excited to gets my Victory Saber. But I am a bit confused about this ebay talk. What are people selling on there? A promise to ship VS to the buyer when it actually ships?



Yes, that's what they are selling. People are panicking about VS now more than ever.

And I too agree about Commander Class. Honestly, I wouldn't have minded either way, but I can see how this gives you more than any commander class figure we've had.

Honestly, I'm baffled this is still a debate. Has everyone forgotten the last Targetmaster partners from Legacy? Especially the Double Targetmasters? Commander Deathsaurus and his Breast Chest Animals wouldn't be nearly as good as the current version!

Anyway, are these the final tier goals, or do you think there might be a new one later? Because this'd be a golden opportunity for an Esmeral figure. Or a miniature of the Planet-Destroying Fortress in scale with HasLab Unicron.
Re: Haslab Updates: Deathsaurus is Halfway There and Victory Saber Shipping Update (2148499)
Posted by King Kuuga on November 2nd, 2022 @ 3:40pm CDT
griftimus prime wrote:half way sure. notice how big the start was but its gone snail speed now. to anyone getting this good luck with those stretch goals.

That's how it always goes. There's a big surge at the start as the early birds place their orders, then it slows down after the first week as people who are interested but not financially able to back it at the outset start to chime in, or people who are interested but didn't hear about it day 1. Near the end the international orders start getting added to the tally, and the closer to the goal it gets, the more people who were on the fence begin to chip in as it seems more like a done deal now. Then once it crosses the finish line it begins to surge now that it's a sure thing.
Re: Haslab Updates: Deathsaurus is Halfway There and Victory Saber Shipping Update (2148503)
Posted by Nemesis Primal on November 2nd, 2022 @ 4:30pm CDT
MaximalNui wrote:Honestly, I'm baffled this is still a debate. Has everyone forgotten the last Targetmaster partners from Legacy? Especially the Double Targetmasters? Commander Deathsaurus and his Breast Chest Animals wouldn't be nearly as good as the current version!
I don't think anyone's trying to debate that a mainline Deathsaurus would be a better figure than the Haslab, merely stating the fact that some of us would prefer an $80-90 figure with less stuff (and/or an $80-90 figure and $10-20 on separate minions) over having to drop $180 on one figure/set.

Also I would say 1/2 of the Targetmaster characters in Legacy thus far look fine, and the good one is the one that is a Double, so I don't think that would compromise Deathsaurus that much.
Re: Haslab Updates: Deathsaurus is Halfway There and Victory Saber Shipping Update (2148507)
Posted by Burn on November 2nd, 2022 @ 5:47pm CDT
Orders only went live in Australia in recent days, if they do what they did with Unicron and VS, those numbers won't be added until near the end date. Would imagine that's similar for other parts of the world that Pulse doesn't yet service.
Re: Haslab Updates: Deathsaurus is Halfway There and Victory Saber Shipping Update (2148510)
Posted by MaximalNui on November 2nd, 2022 @ 6:38pm CDT
Nemesis Primal wrote:
MaximalNui wrote:Honestly, I'm baffled this is still a debate. Has everyone forgotten the last Targetmaster partners from Legacy? Especially the Double Targetmasters? Commander Deathsaurus and his Breast Chest Animals wouldn't be nearly as good as the current version!
I don't think anyone's trying to debate that a mainline Deathsaurus would be a better figure than the Haslab, merely stating the fact that some of us would prefer an $80-90 figure with less stuff (and/or an $80-90 figure and $10-20 on separate minions) over having to drop $180 on one figure/set.

Also I would say 1/2 of the Targetmaster characters in Legacy thus far look fine, and the good one is the one that is a Double, so I don't think that would compromise Deathsaurus that much.

I was actually talking about their partners. I mean, compare them with the Battlemasters back in Siege and Earthrise. Or hell, all the way back to Legends, Thrilling 30 or even Universe Cyclonus!
Re: Haslab Updates: Deathsaurus is Halfway There and Victory Saber Shipping Update (2148511)
Posted by Immortal Starscream on November 2nd, 2022 @ 7:02pm CDT
I've heard it said that when it comes to crowdfunding things like this, that usually if it makes half or more of it's goal before halfway through it's time window, it will be funded (usually). While I am not worried about this guy being funded, I think Hasbro still has some lessons to learn. they should not have more then one crowd fund program going on at the same time. many of their fans are fans of more then just one property, and with how expensive most of these are, and with the economy still trash, I for one can only back one, and I really cant even afford that.
Re: Haslab Updates: Deathsaurus is Halfway There and Victory Saber Shipping Update (2148515)
Posted by Seibertron on November 2nd, 2022 @ 8:18pm CDT
Not that anyone cares ... but I placed my order earlier today! I plan on placing an order a week until it ends. :)
Re: Haslab Updates: Deathsaurus is Halfway There and Victory Saber Shipping Update (2148516)
Posted by Emerje on November 2nd, 2022 @ 8:22pm CDT
People like to hold off until they see an actual figure as it will likely look at release. For now we've only seen an uncolored CAD model and an undetailed block model, we haven't even seen a gray model yet. We'll see a colored CAD model probably next week which should help bump up the orders a bit, we'll see. Then you have to factor in the orders from Takara Tomy, Australia, and individual sellers like BBTS and we're definitely getting at least the 11K goal.

I do think it's very optimistic for it to receive as many or more backers than Victory Saber. Traditionally heroes are better sellers than villains and just how many people are going to want a Deathsaurus without a VS? Sure there's the MP Star Saber but how many people could possibly have one of those and not backed VS (yes, there's definitely those people out there, but not enough to tip the scales that much).

My prediction is 18K, enough to hit the second tier, but nothing close to VS. I am not expecting a secret third tier, I don't believe Hasbro has ever done secret tiers (Unicron extras don't count) and they've always been up front about the number of tiers.

Emerje
Re: Haslab Updates: Deathsaurus is Halfway There and Victory Saber Shipping Update (2148517)
Posted by Sowndwave76 on November 2nd, 2022 @ 9:21pm CDT
I am very interested in this figure even though I have almost no frame of reference.
As I’m nearing the end of my collecting days, I would like to have a Haslab figure on a shelf.
I think this guy looks very promising all-around.
I rarely transform any of my figures, but I think he’d be an exception.
And while I’m not a huge fan of the cost, I’m willing to sell off enough to have this covered.
Plus, I usually gravitate towards the villains.
Re: Haslab Updates: Deathsaurus is Halfway There and Victory Saber Shipping Update (2148518)
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on November 2nd, 2022 @ 9:52pm CDT
Personally I think DS'll only hit tier 1 if he gets funded. I'm not gonna be shocked if he funds, but I don't see him getting enough for the second tier (as much as I hope he hits it)
Re: Haslab Updates: Deathsaurus is Halfway There and Victory Saber Shipping Update (2148519)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on November 2nd, 2022 @ 9:57pm CDT
So can anyone on here comment, how was hasbro with replacement parts for breakages with unicron? I remember Thew broke his unicron live on camera, and comments were telling him to contact hasbro. I only ask, as I now have the funds (theoretically) to get a second deathsaurus as back up in case anything happens with the first...
Re: Haslab Updates: Deathsaurus is Halfway There and Victory Saber Shipping Update (2148520)
Posted by Nemesis Primal on November 2nd, 2022 @ 10:26pm CDT
MaximalNui wrote:
Nemesis Primal wrote:
MaximalNui wrote:Honestly, I'm baffled this is still a debate. Has everyone forgotten the last Targetmaster partners from Legacy? Especially the Double Targetmasters? Commander Deathsaurus and his Breast Chest Animals wouldn't be nearly as good as the current version!
I don't think anyone's trying to debate that a mainline Deathsaurus would be a better figure than the Haslab, merely stating the fact that some of us would prefer an $80-90 figure with less stuff (and/or an $80-90 figure and $10-20 on separate minions) over having to drop $180 on one figure/set.

Also I would say 1/2 of the Targetmaster characters in Legacy thus far look fine, and the good one is the one that is a Double, so I don't think that would compromise Deathsaurus that much.

I was actually talking about their partners. I mean, compare them with the Battlemasters back in Siege and Earthrise. Or hell, all the way back to Legends, Thrilling 30 or even Universe Cyclonus!
Ah, I see, I misread that part. Yeah, this is why I'm totally fine with the strategy of pack-partners-separately like in Siege and the upcoming Frenzy, since they seemingly don't have the budget for packing them together within the retail price points. It leads to less compromise on the individual bots.
Re: Haslab Updates: Deathsaurus is Halfway There and Victory Saber Shipping Update (2148522)
Posted by Emerje on November 3rd, 2022 @ 12:27am CDT
Hellscream9999 wrote:So can anyone on here comment, how was hasbro with replacement parts for breakages with unicron? I remember Thew broke his unicron live on camera, and comments were telling him to contact hasbro. I only ask, as I now have the funds (theoretically) to get a second deathsaurus as back up in case anything happens with the first...

I believe with Unicron and probably other HasLabs they produced extra parts for replacements, but I wouldn't count on that past the first month after release.

Emerje
Re: Haslab Updates: Deathsaurus is Halfway There and Victory Saber Shipping Update (2148530)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on November 3rd, 2022 @ 4:34am CDT
Sentinel_Primal wrote:Personally I think DS'll only hit tier 1 if he gets funded. I'm not gonna be shocked if he funds, but I don't see him getting enough for the second tier (as much as I hope he hits it)


Ye of little faith.

Considering the previous two HASLAB Transformers History, Deathy will be fully funded beyond all the tiers.
Re: Haslab Updates: Deathsaurus is Halfway There and Victory Saber Shipping Update (2148531)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on November 3rd, 2022 @ 4:38am CDT
Nemesis Primal wrote:
MaximalNui wrote:
Nemesis Primal wrote:
MaximalNui wrote:Honestly, I'm baffled this is still a debate. Has everyone forgotten the last Targetmaster partners from Legacy? Especially the Double Targetmasters? Commander Deathsaurus and his Breast Chest Animals wouldn't be nearly as good as the current version!
I don't think anyone's trying to debate that a mainline Deathsaurus would be a better figure than the Haslab, merely stating the fact that some of us would prefer an $80-90 figure with less stuff (and/or an $80-90 figure and $10-20 on separate minions) over having to drop $180 on one figure/set.

Also I would say 1/2 of the Targetmaster characters in Legacy thus far look fine, and the good one is the one that is a Double, so I don't think that would compromise Deathsaurus that much.

I was actually talking about their partners. I mean, compare them with the Battlemasters back in Siege and Earthrise. Or hell, all the way back to Legends, Thrilling 30 or even Universe Cyclonus!
Ah, I see, I misread that part. Yeah, this is why I'm totally fine with the strategy of pack-partners-separately like in Siege and the upcoming Frenzy, since they seemingly don't have the budget for packing them together within the retail price points. It leads to less compromise on the individual bots.


I can understand the sentiment, but hunting separate bots can be a nightmare. Especially when limited quantities and/or bad distribution gets involved.

Having to pay 50$CAN plus shipping for that Select box of cassettes just so that my ER Doubledealer can have his minions was a hard pill to swallow. I would rather had paid a bit more for leader DD than having to buy the minions from a damn scalper.
Re: Haslab Updates: Deathsaurus is Halfway There and Victory Saber Shipping Update (2148532)
Posted by Coptur on November 3rd, 2022 @ 4:41am CDT
o.supreme wrote:I think of all the Haslabs that both went into production and had bonus tiers, the GIJoe Skystriker is the only one to actually fund, but not pass all it's tiers, so far.


Heroquest didn't reach the last two stretch goals but they included them anyway.
Re: Haslab Updates: Deathsaurus is Halfway There and Victory Saber Shipping Update (2148536)
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on November 3rd, 2022 @ 8:54am CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:
Sentinel_Primal wrote:Personally I think DS'll only hit tier 1 if he gets funded. I'm not gonna be shocked if he funds, but I don't see him getting enough for the second tier (as much as I hope he hits it)


Ye of little faith.

Considering the previous two HASLAB Transformers History, Deathy will be fully funded beyond all the tiers.

True, but Unicron didn't have any tiers and has a wider appeal, and Victory Saber is a good guy that people have been wanting for years. Deathsaurus is also a wanted character, but I don't know if he has the same appeal for the price point that the entire package of Victory Saber had
Re: Haslab Updates: Deathsaurus is Halfway There and Victory Saber Shipping Update (2148537)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on November 3rd, 2022 @ 10:28am CDT
Sentinel_Primal wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:
Sentinel_Primal wrote:Personally I think DS'll only hit tier 1 if he gets funded. I'm not gonna be shocked if he funds, but I don't see him getting enough for the second tier (as much as I hope he hits it)


Ye of little faith.

Considering the previous two HASLAB Transformers History, Deathy will be fully funded beyond all the tiers.

True, but Unicron didn't have any tiers and has a wider appeal, and Victory Saber is a good guy that people have been wanting for years. Deathsaurus is also a wanted character, but I don't know if he has the same appeal for the price point that the entire package of Victory Saber had


Unicron's target number was quite high and it was the most expensive TF ever. As for Deathsaurus, he's VS main rival. So any VS Dan will want him as well.
Re: Haslab Updates: Deathsaurus is Halfway There and Victory Saber Shipping Update (2148577)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on November 3rd, 2022 @ 8:39pm CDT
Sentinel_Primal wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:
Sentinel_Primal wrote:Personally I think DS'll only hit tier 1 if he gets funded. I'm not gonna be shocked if he funds, but I don't see him getting enough for the second tier (as much as I hope he hits it)


Ye of little faith.

Considering the previous two HASLAB Transformers History, Deathy will be fully funded beyond all the tiers.

True, but Unicron didn't have any tiers and has a wider appeal, and Victory Saber is a good guy that people have been wanting for years. Deathsaurus is also a wanted character, but I don't know if he has the same appeal for the price point that the entire package of Victory Saber had

Considering Unicron was 3 times the price of Deathsaurus and needed an extension to make it, I think Deathsaurus will compare more to Victory Saber
Re: Haslab Updates: Deathsaurus is Halfway There and Victory Saber Shipping Update (2148584)
Posted by Emerje on November 3rd, 2022 @ 8:52pm CDT
Sentinel_Primal wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:
Sentinel_Primal wrote:Personally I think DS'll only hit tier 1 if he gets funded. I'm not gonna be shocked if he funds, but I don't see him getting enough for the second tier (as much as I hope he hits it)


Ye of little faith.

Considering the previous two HASLAB Transformers History, Deathy will be fully funded beyond all the tiers.

True, but Unicron didn't have any tiers and has a wider appeal, and Victory Saber is a good guy that people have been wanting for years. Deathsaurus is also a wanted character, but I don't know if he has the same appeal for the price point that the entire package of Victory Saber had

Unicron didn't have tiers, but they did add things that weren't part of the original pitch as they went. The tiny slug figures of Hot Rod and Galvatron, the Autobot shuttle, the stand for those piece plus one of the removable head, the new chin and updated hand articulation were all added later similar to how tier are unlocked.

-Kanrabat- wrote:Unicron's target number was quite high and it was the most expensive TF ever.

Unicron's target goal was only 8K to Victory Saber and Deathsaurus' 11K.

Emerje
Re: Haslab Updates: Deathsaurus is Halfway There and Victory Saber Shipping Update (2148601)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on November 3rd, 2022 @ 10:37pm CDT
Emerje wrote:Unicron's target goal was only 8K to Victory Saber and Deathsaurus' 11K.

Emerje


Proportion-wise, that target was stratospheric. 8K for a 600 mother effing dollars toy versus 11K for a 180$ toy? To be truly equivalent to Unicron, VS should have had a target number of at least 22K backers for it's minimum.

Hell, VS didn't need any time extension plus it blew all the tiers pass 26K backers.
I don't think Deathsaurus will beat VS's record, especially with their shipping policy changes, but I'm sure it will blow pass the 17K backers easily regardless.
Re: Haslab Updates: Deathsaurus is Halfway There and Victory Saber Shipping Update (2148607)
Posted by Emerje on November 4th, 2022 @ 1:07am CDT
The prices are based on what it would cost to to get the minimum number into production, it isn't right to compare them like that. 22K probably would have brought the price down, but probably would have raised the tiers proportionally as well and I just don't see them selling 40K to hit tier 3.

Unicron got the time extension because they started it before working out all of their plans. They had considered sales outside of the US, they hadn't worked out sales with Takara Tomy yet, and quickly realized they weren't doing all the things fans were expecting for the price.

Emerje
Re: Haslab Updates: Deathsaurus is Halfway There and Victory Saber Shipping Update (2148612)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on November 4th, 2022 @ 5:01am CDT
Emerje wrote:Unicron got the time extension because they started it before working out all of their plans. They had considered sales outside of the US, they hadn't worked out sales with Takara Tomy yet, and quickly realized they weren't doing all the things fans were expecting for the price.

Emerje


TlDr; They planned Unicron poorly.

At least they knocked it out of the park for VS and I think Deathsaurus will be the same.

Deathy is no Reva Lightsaber after all.
Re: Haslab Updates: Deathsaurus is Halfway There and Victory Saber Shipping Update (2148633)
Posted by Immortal Starscream on November 4th, 2022 @ 1:39pm CDT
fun with color! I had 30 minutes to blow and was bored af, so I did this. I know its pointless, since we will have color images soon enough from hasbro, but eh what the hell.

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Re: Haslab Updates: Deathsaurus is Halfway There and Victory Saber Shipping Update (2148690)
Posted by King Kuuga on November 5th, 2022 @ 1:46pm CDT
The thing I don't get about Haslab Victory Saber and Deathsaurus is why they're launching with uncolored images.

Every other Haslab brand has had, at the very least, color CG renders of the vision of the project, if not a hand-painted prototype. Even Unicron did this. But VS and now DS are launching and going a couple weeks with just the grayscale renders and prototypes. They could get more backers off the bat with color samples I think. Is it some deliberate strategy by the TF team that the other brands haven't caught on to? Obviously when they release the color images they'll incentivize more backers. Or are Transformers just THAT much more complex to develop than the other products? I know they're generally more complicated than a similarly sized action figure, that's not news to me, but something like Sentinel or Galactus seems like it'd be on par with VS and DS in parts count and level of detail. A good amount of conceptualizing has to go into these figures before the campaign begins, so even if they don't have the exact color layout finalized, they have a good idea of the transformation and what bits end up where so they can get both modes in the right overall color scheme. It seems less enticing that I'm being asked to fund what looks like an imcomplete product. (I know they're all incomplete products but this is about optics)
Re: Haslab Updates: Deathsaurus is Halfway There and Victory Saber Shipping Update (2148730)
Posted by william-james88 on November 5th, 2022 @ 9:27pm CDT
King Kuuga wrote:The thing I don't get about Haslab Victory Saber and Deathsaurus is why they're launching with uncolored images.

Every other Haslab brand has had, at the very least, color CG renders of the vision of the project, if not a hand-painted prototype. Even Unicron did this. But VS and now DS are launching and going a couple weeks with just the grayscale renders and prototypes. They could get more backers off the bat with color samples I think. Is it some deliberate strategy by the TF team that the other brands haven't caught on to? Obviously when they release the color images they'll incentivize more backers. Or are Transformers just THAT much more complex to develop than the other products? I know they're generally more complicated than a similarly sized action figure, that's not news to me, but something like Sentinel or Galactus seems like it'd be on par with VS and DS in parts count and level of detail. A good amount of conceptualizing has to go into these figures before the campaign begins, so even if they don't have the exact color layout finalized, they have a good idea of the transformation and what bits end up where so they can get both modes in the right overall color scheme. It seems less enticing that I'm being asked to fund what looks like an imcomplete product. (I know they're all incomplete products but this is about optics)


That's because Transformers go through a different process than other action figures and are designed by a foreign team.
Re: Haslab Updates: Deathsaurus is Halfway There and Victory Saber Shipping Update (2148731)
Posted by Emerje on November 5th, 2022 @ 10:18pm CDT
King Kuuga wrote:The thing I don't get about Haslab Victory Saber and Deathsaurus is why they're launching with uncolored images.

Every other Haslab brand has had, at the very least, color CG renders of the vision of the project, if not a hand-painted prototype. Even Unicron did this. But VS and now DS are launching and going a couple weeks with just the grayscale renders and prototypes. They could get more backers off the bat with color samples I think. Is it some deliberate strategy by the TF team that the other brands haven't caught on to? Obviously when they release the color images they'll incentivize more backers. Or are Transformers just THAT much more complex to develop than the other products? I know they're generally more complicated than a similarly sized action figure, that's not news to me, but something like Sentinel or Galactus seems like it'd be on par with VS and DS in parts count and level of detail. A good amount of conceptualizing has to go into these figures before the campaign begins, so even if they don't have the exact color layout finalized, they have a good idea of the transformation and what bits end up where so they can get both modes in the right overall color scheme. It seems less enticing that I'm being asked to fund what looks like an imcomplete product. (I know they're all incomplete products but this is about optics)

I think they do it to keep things interesting. Aside from tiers the others didn't really have much to update with. The Transformers team's tactic is to generate buzz through showing progression. Once the CAD build is done it doesn't take much effort to color it, it was probably ready when announced even though the CAD model itself probably wasn't the final version. My prediction is next up they'll show us the colored CAD model, then the 3D printed gray model and finally the hand painted model in the last week. If it's really what they're doing then it's probably not a bad strategy, since it keeps things fresh week after week.

Emerje
Re: Haslab Updates: Deathsaurus is Halfway There and Victory Saber Shipping Update (2148803)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on November 7th, 2022 @ 11:24am CST
King Kuuga wrote:The thing I don't get about Haslab Victory Saber and Deathsaurus is why they're launching with uncolored images.

Every other Haslab brand has had, at the very least, color CG renders of the vision of the project, if not a hand-painted prototype. Even Unicron did this. But VS and now DS are launching and going a couple weeks with just the grayscale renders and prototypes. They could get more backers off the bat with color samples I think. Is it some deliberate strategy by the TF team that the other brands haven't caught on to? Obviously when they release the color images they'll incentivize more backers. Or are Transformers just THAT much more complex to develop than the other products? I know they're generally more complicated than a similarly sized action figure, that's not news to me, but something like Sentinel or Galactus seems like it'd be on par with VS and DS in parts count and level of detail. A good amount of conceptualizing has to go into these figures before the campaign begins, so even if they don't have the exact color layout finalized, they have a good idea of the transformation and what bits end up where so they can get both modes in the right overall color scheme. It seems less enticing that I'm being asked to fund what looks like an imcomplete product. (I know they're all incomplete products but this is about optics)


Possibly because the mold layout has not been done yet, or rather, they haven't figured out which parts go into what (color) mold. There is a general idea for the larger parts I assume, but minor parts like joints and inner workings require more thorough planning, and can change on a whim. Transformers have a lot more moving parts compared to other action figures; not just limbs and head, but the inner mechanisms as well.
Re: Haslab Updates: Deathsaurus is Halfway There and Victory Saber Shipping Update (2148856)
Posted by King Kuuga on November 8th, 2022 @ 12:28am CST
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Possibly because the mold layout has not been done yet, or rather, they haven't figured out which parts go into what (color) mold. There is a general idea for the larger parts I assume, but minor parts like joints and inner workings require more thorough planning, and can change on a whim. Transformers have a lot more moving parts compared to other action figures; not just limbs and head, but the inner mechanisms as well.

I understaqnd that. I don't expect the colors to be locked in at this stage. They showcase them before the colors are locked in. But they did it with Unicron, giving us what I believe was a hand-painted prototype, and some stuff wound up changed on the final mold. I assume similar alterations have happened with stuff like the sail barge, sentinel, etc. They include asterisks with all the renders and test shots saying the colors and design aren't final so I'm failing to see the issue.
Re: Haslab Updates: Deathsaurus is Halfway There and Victory Saber Shipping Update (2148857)
Posted by Seibertron on November 8th, 2022 @ 12:33am CST
King Kuuga wrote:
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Possibly because the mold layout has not been done yet, or rather, they haven't figured out which parts go into what (color) mold. There is a general idea for the larger parts I assume, but minor parts like joints and inner workings require more thorough planning, and can change on a whim. Transformers have a lot more moving parts compared to other action figures; not just limbs and head, but the inner mechanisms as well.

I understaqnd that. I don't expect the colors to be locked in at this stage. They showcase them before the colors are locked in. But they did it with Unicron, giving us what I believe was a hand-painted prototype, and some stuff wound up changed on the final mold. I assume similar alterations have happened with stuff like the sail barge, sentinel, etc. They include asterisks with all the renders and test shots saying the colors and design aren't final so I'm failing to see the issue.


There was also a lot of negative feedback when things changed on Unicron. I'm assuming what they're doing is to avoid that problem again as much as possible.

Considering that we've got a month to go, all shall be revealed soon I would think.
Re: Haslab Updates: Deathsaurus is Halfway There and Victory Saber Shipping Update (2148882)
Posted by o.supreme on November 8th, 2022 @ 3:11pm CST
Well it's been a slow crawl the last week going from 5500 to just now 6K. However the good news is, this has been all direct orders through Pulse as far as we know. The big spikes from TT and other online retailers haven't begun to be added yet. I can't wait until we see the first big jump. Hopefully soon.
Re: Haslab Updates: Deathsaurus is Halfway There and Victory Saber Shipping Update (2148885)
Posted by M. Spector on November 8th, 2022 @ 4:02pm CST
I have every confidence that DS will get fully funded, and as far as the tier thing goes, it's all kinda balogna. All that stuff will be included regardless

My big question is, do I go in on this or get a 3P one? Because he certainly has had no shortage of fairly solid looking figures made the last couple years. For additional information I'm a total normie when it comes to Victory, Star Saber, and Deathsaurus :lol: So it's all about the cool factor for me
Re: Haslab Updates: Deathsaurus is Halfway There and Victory Saber Shipping Update (2148890)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on November 8th, 2022 @ 5:49pm CST
M. Spector wrote:I have every confidence that DS will get fully funded, and as far as the tier thing goes, it's all kinda balogna. All that stuff will be included regardless

My big question is, do I go in on this or get a 3P one? Because he certainly has had no shortage of fairly solid looking figures made the last couple years. For additional information I'm a total normie when it comes to Victory, Star Saber, and Deathsaurus :lol: So it's all about the cool factor for me

Get this one, you get a throne, that is the tipping point!
Re: Haslab Updates: Deathsaurus is Halfway There and Victory Saber Shipping Update (2148897)
Posted by Seibertron on November 8th, 2022 @ 6:36pm CST
Just ordered Deathsaurus #2!!
Re: Haslab Updates: Deathsaurus is Halfway There and Victory Saber Shipping Update (2148900)
Posted by Sowndwave76 on November 8th, 2022 @ 6:49pm CST
I am 99% sure I’m going to back this project.
I’m looking to sell-off some figures to cover it.
As long as I can get about 2/3 of the cost covered (which shouldn’t be an issue), I’m definitely in.
Re: Haslab Updates: Deathsaurus is Halfway There and Victory Saber Shipping Update (2148902)
Posted by Emerje on November 8th, 2022 @ 8:46pm CST
On a recent Geek. Dad. Life. stream he was showing a chart that graphed the progress of Victory Saber, Unicron and Deathsaurus and currently DS is staying right in step with Victory Saber. In my faulty memory VS was doing a lot better at this point, but seeing it plotted out the two are perfectly matched up. I don't know where he gets his graphs, he says he didn't make them, so here's a snip I made from the stream.

Deathsaurus graph.JPG


Click it to make it better, the important parts are the solid orange line (VS) and the dark blue line with the dots over it (that's DS). I'm going to guess that the two sharp jumps for VS were from updates (colored models, tier updates), the small uptick in the middle is probably a retailer placing a batch of orders. Of course that big jump at the end was the world wide addition of orders from major and minor retailers and last minute customer orders.

Totally confident in this reaching both tiers, but still not expecting much more past that.

Emerje
Re: Haslab Updates: Deathsaurus is Halfway There and Victory Saber Shipping Update (2148975)
Posted by Emerje on November 9th, 2022 @ 10:37pm CST
Takara Tomy Mall just opened up orders. This is way earlier than with Victory Saber where they didn't take orders until there was less than 2 weeks remaining.

Emerje
Re: Haslab Updates: Deathsaurus is Halfway There and Victory Saber Shipping Update (2148976)
Posted by Sabrblade on November 9th, 2022 @ 10:40pm CST
Emerje wrote:Takara Tomy Mall just opened up orders. This is way earlier than with Victory Saber where they didn't take orders until there was less than 2 weeks remaining.

Emerje
And it's about 23 US dollars more than Hasbro Pulse's price.

https://takaratomymall.jp/shop/g/g4904810210016/
Re: Haslab Updates: Deathsaurus is Halfway There and Victory Saber Shipping Update (2149234)
Posted by Emerje on November 14th, 2022 @ 6:28pm CST
The backing total just jumped by over 2K today. When I checked this morning it was at 6,614 (I still have the tab open on my phone) and now it's 8,864. I'm guessing that's from a retailer dumping a batch of orders since there's no reason for that many people to suddenly place orders all at once. If you look at that chart I posted before this is about where we got a large bump with Victory Saber too.

Emerje
Re: Haslab Updates: Deathsaurus is Halfway There and Victory Saber Shipping Update (2149236)
Posted by o.supreme on November 14th, 2022 @ 6:49pm CST
Cool. I was about to say the same thing. Same retailer order completion as VS probably. At least we know it's not TT Mall since those are added right towards the end. Looking good. Maybe Geek Dad Life will actually give it a mention this coming Sunday.
Re: Haslab Updates: Deathsaurus is Halfway There and Victory Saber Shipping Update (2149309)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on November 15th, 2022 @ 7:27pm CST
Emerje wrote:The backing total just jumped by over 2K today. When I checked this morning it was at 6,614 (I still have the tab open on my phone) and now it's 8,864. I'm guessing that's from a retailer dumping a batch of orders since there's no reason for that many people to suddenly place orders all at once. If you look at that chart I posted before this is about where we got a large bump with Victory Saber too.

Emerje

Excellent news, glad to see more orders are being added on now
Re: Haslab Updates: Deathsaurus is Halfway There and Victory Saber Shipping Update (2149321)
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on November 15th, 2022 @ 8:55pm CST
Don't know if anyone here needs to know, but a Mexican website just opened uo pre-orders for Deathsaurus, but it's at an absurd markup. I'll leave a link, but I think importing it from a site that ships out of the US would be cheaper...

https://www.juguetibicicollectors.com/p ... urus-f8340
Re: Haslab Updates: Deathsaurus is Halfway There and Victory Saber Shipping Update (2149324)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on November 15th, 2022 @ 9:15pm CST
Sentinel_Primal wrote:Don't know if anyone here needs to know, but a Mexican website just opened uo pre-orders for Deathsaurus, but it's at an absurd markup. I'll leave a link, but I think importing it from a site that ships out of the US would be cheaper...

https://www.juguetibicicollectors.com/p ... urus-f8340


Even then, I don't think the Mexibros can avoid that markup. Blame Mexico's insane import taxes. If you have a VPN, change your location to Mexico and "order" something from Amazon.jp. Then switch your location back to the USA (I suppose). Notice the HUGE price difference.
Re: Haslab Updates: Deathsaurus is Halfway There and Victory Saber Shipping Update (2149355)
Posted by o.supreme on November 16th, 2022 @ 7:56pm CST
All y'all who are good with Dragonball memes, be at the ready... It's close ;)
Re: Haslab Updates: Deathsaurus is Halfway There and Victory Saber Shipping Update (2149356)
Posted by Sabrblade on November 16th, 2022 @ 8:01pm CST
o.supreme wrote:All y'all who are good with Dragonball memes, be at the ready... It's close ;)
Or, thanks to the English dub of Kai, we can already go ahead and use the correct version:



;)
Re: Haslab Updates: Deathsaurus is Halfway There and Victory Saber Shipping Update (2149371)
Posted by o.supreme on November 16th, 2022 @ 8:56pm CST
There it is :lol:
Re: Haslab Updates: Deathsaurus is Halfway There and Victory Saber Shipping Update (2149381)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on November 17th, 2022 @ 4:48am CST
I'm confident it will be over 17000 at the very end.

Still, this new policy of "charge shipping separately" for these prevent many of us from buying multiples. I ordered two Star Sabers because the shipping was 25$ for one set, 30$ for TWO sets. For Deathy, it's 30$ for one 60$ for 2, ect. So, F it. One it is.

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