Hasbro's Transformers NYCC 2012 panel text and gallery

Thursday, October 11th, 2012 4:51PM CDT

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Panel guests included:

Hasbro Studios (Burbank, CA):

Mike Vogel - Vice President, development
Brian Lenard - Executive Director
Jeff Kline - Producer, Transformers Prime
Duane Capizzi - Producer, Transformers Prime

Hasbro (Providence, RI):

Jerry Jivoin - Director, global brand management
Andy Schmidt - Director, design & development
Clint Chapman - Global Brand Manageer, Transformers

Showed us a clip reel of Transformers Prime Season 2
Showed us a villians clip
and then showed us Shockwave introducing Predaking from Transformers Prime "Beast Hunters"
The Predacons are Cybertron's versions of Dinosaurs

Transformers Prime
Beast Hunters
Looks like new toys from the ground up, new head sculpts, new "helmets", accessories, etc

Legion Class
Bumblebee with Hawkbow
Smokescreen with Chain Bolter
Airachnid with Novastinger Bow
Twinstrike with Piston Hammer (looks like a Sinnertwin homage)

Commander Class
Bulkhead with Nova Hammer (in Roadbuster colors)
Predaking with Cybervenom Rocket

Cyberverse Vehicles
Sky Claw with Smokescreen (Smokescreen in Alternators color scheme with #7 on doors/wings)
Apex Armor with Breakdown

Deluxe Class
Bumblebee with Hawkbow (loaded with weapons ... looks awesome)
Soundwave & Ravage with Thunder Talon
Wheeljack with Falcon Spear
Lazerback with Toxic Strike Blaster

Voyager Class
Predaking with Hydrafire blasters (robot mode to be revealed later)

New packaging for Beast Hunters
Commented that the Beasts are large and heavy, larger than regular figures. I think they stated that the packaging for the beasts would be larger than others. Not sure if this translates to price or not.
Instructions to have a bit of story in them now (not sure if this replaces bios or not on packaging). Each instructions story leads into anothers. Runs through deluxe and voyager instructions.

Bumblebee instructions text: With the threat of Predaking looming over them all, every AUTOBOT dedicates himself to discovering some means of battling the PREDACON overlord. But it is the scout BUMBLEBEE who discovers what may be the key to victory. Buried deep within data recovered alongside one of the Iacon Relics he finds evidence of a direlict transport starship - a courier packed with weapons more ancient than any relic yet recovered - set adrift ages ago among the asteroids girdling Earth's solar system. With no other way to reach the ancient ship, and not wanting to waste time, he contacts WHEELJACK, hoping the AUTOBOT mercenary can provide transport and - if it turns out to be a trap - an extra blaster. Continued in Chapter 2 deluxe SOUNDWAVE ...

Kre-O Transformers
Ripclaw with Military Officer Kreon and Ripclaw Kreon
Bumblebee with Skystalker + 2 Kreons (Bumblebee is a 4x4 vehicle)
Trailcutter vs Grimwing
Windcharger vs Corhada

Transformers Generations
Different sizes for Generations
Introducting Transformers Generations Platinum Edition ... coming out late 2012/early 2013
Remolded and recolored Energon Omega Supreme (new head with flip down visor, new claw hand)
Energon Optimus Prime in G1 Optimus Prime color scheme
Packaging looks amazing (artwork for Omega Supreme will be revised), gold foil packaging, 5th panel window, G1 comic inspired artwork, carrying handle

Transformers Q&A

Are the upcoming Masterpieces coming to U.S.? Partnership with Toys R Us. No specific plans. But I would consider that they'll be here.
Still moving forward with Transformers Universe MMO from Jagex
Looking into bringing Arms Micron Unicron to U.S., but no set plans yet
Beast Wars or "who knows what can happen" in 30th anniversary / 2014
Talked about retail prices ... don't control retail prices
Sgt Kup and Rumble last two figures before Beast Hunters
Will we see Dinobots in season 3? Stay tuned!
Teased that Bruticus in G1 colors at retail?
Maybe and stay tuned to more Combiners. More to announce soon! Love the deluxe combiners.
Will Unicron be showing up again? Stay tuned ...
Keeping close eye on which characters from IDW comics are popular ... might translate as toys. Stay tuned!
Teased that deluxe Smokescreen might be coming
Want to make sure that all of the characters from the show make it out as toys
Voyager Prime Grimlock possibility?

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Hasbro's Transformers NYCC 2012 panel text and gallery

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Re: Hasbro's Transformers NYCC 2012 panel text and gallery (1429347)
Posted by Diem on October 11th, 2012 @ 5:07pm CDT

Seibertron wrote:and then showed us Shockwave introducing Predaking from Transformers Prime "Beast Hunters"
The Predacons are Cybertron's versions of Dinosaurs

Prime Shockwave? Is it just the FOC version?

Deluxe Class
Bumblebee with Hawkbow (loaded with weapons ... looks awesome)
Soundwave & Ravage with Thunder Talon
Wheeljack with Falcon Spear
Lazerback with Toxic Strike Blaster

Bumblebeeeeeeeeeee! Wheeeeeeeeeljack!

Ripclaw with Military Officer Kreon and Ripclaw Kreon
Bumblebee with Skystalker + 2 Kreons (Bumblebee is a 4x4 vehicle)
Trailcutter vs Grimwing
Windcharger vs Corhada

How do you lose "Trailbreaker" as a trademark? Also, Cohrada?!? Where the hell did that come from?

Transformers Generations
Different sizes for Generations
Introducting Transformers Generations Platinum Edition ... coming out late 2012/early 2013
Remolded and recolored Energon Omega Supreme (new head with flip down visor, new claw hand)

Innnnnnteresting. Hopefully that means some new Voyager (maybe even Ultra) CHUG.

Energon Optimus Prime in G1 Optimus Prime color scheme

Energon? Nice choice...

[*]Beast Wars or "who knows what can happen" in 30th anniversary / 2014

Huh. Interesting. Actually interesting.

[*]Teased that Bruticus in G1 colors at retail?

Yeah, that mold needs a repaint.

[*]Keeping close eye on which characters from IDW comics are popular ... might translate as toys. Stay tuned!

THIS

THIS

Can we have a Chromedome, Swerve, Skids and TAILGATE please?

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Posted by griftimus prime on October 11th, 2012 @ 5:14pm CDT

Cybertron's versions of Dinosaurs? wtf? sounds very stupid.

really want pics of the figures. from the sounds of the list. there will only be a few worth getting.

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Posted by Seibertron on October 11th, 2012 @ 5:28pm CDT

griftimus prime wrote:Cybertron's versions of Dinosaurs? wtf? sounds very stupid.

really want pics of the figures. from the sounds of the list. there will only be a few worth getting.

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Posted by Mkall on October 11th, 2012 @ 5:30pm CDT

I was really hoping for more out of this presentation. However Omega Supreme has me very excited and I see potential in Predaking too.

Guess Hasbro won't be getting a lot of my money in the new year.

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Posted by Sodan-1 on October 11th, 2012 @ 5:34pm CDT

I'm trying not to get too excited about this stuff as whenever I do get excited I ultimately feel let down by the finished product.

Is the Energon Omega redeco the Year of The Snake (not that we know what that looks like)?

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Posted by Gearslide on October 11th, 2012 @ 5:38pm CDT

I have this feeling that while we may see the Predacons in the show (and thus have toys of them), the Autobots and Decepticons won't be wearing that crazy spike armor, and are just remolds for the sake of filling the line. That said, I'm totally getting that Soundwave for the Ravage, and the new Predacons.

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Posted by Mkall on October 11th, 2012 @ 5:40pm CDT

Diem wrote:
Ripclaw with Military Officer Kreon and Ripclaw Kreon
Bumblebee with Skystalker + 2 Kreons (Bumblebee is a 4x4 vehicle)
Trailcutter vs Grimwing
Windcharger vs Corhada

How do you lose "Trailbreaker" as a trademark? Also, Cohrada?!? Where the hell did that come from?

I think Trailbreaker is now owned by a car manufacturer. It happens. As for Cohrada, it's a reference to this guy

Sodan-1 wrote:Is the Energon Omega redeco the Year of The Snake (not that we know what that looks like)?

Yes it is. Both Omega and Optimus are the Year of the Snake edition figures.

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Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on October 11th, 2012 @ 5:40pm CDT

It looks like Hasbro is pulling out all the stops for Beast Hunters: all the non-Predacons are major retoolings! :shock:

I wonder how I should work this out...

And the US packaging will shrink like it has already shrunk in Europe. Lovely.

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Posted by xyl360 on October 11th, 2012 @ 5:42pm CDT

•Beast Wars or "who knows what can happen" in 30th anniversary / 2014

Until 2014, I will be praying.

I like a lot of what I'm hearing. Platinum sounds like a Collectors' line. It's about damn time Hasbro!

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Posted by Diem on October 11th, 2012 @ 5:42pm CDT

Mkall wrote:
Diem wrote:

Windcharger vs Corhada

Cohrada, it's a reference to this guy

Yeah, that's what surprises me.

Not-Sinnertwin looks fun, but advertising "dragon heads for hands" seems a little too self aware, given that it's not a popular design decision. I'll eat my best hat if there isn't a Doublecross repaint later down the line.

The Cyberverse stuff is all nice but it's not really what I'm interested in.

NOT liking Bumblebee and Wheeljack STEALTH FORCE XXXXXXTREME!!!!, and look forward to the wave being made of 3 Bees, 2 WJs, 2 Sinnertwins and one of that poor Lazerback guy who actually looks pretty cool. Soundwave looks alright for a retool too.

Voyager Predaking: pretty pointless if there's going to be a leader version and if he is canonically a big guy.

Kre-o: Even I have kind of lost interest in these and I loved them to begin with.

That Omega Supreme looks pretty cool, especially since I never got a previous version of this guy. If this is a collector version rather than a version advertised to kids Energon's Fatty Prime was a bad choice given the lack of fan-love, and the number of times he was released before.

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Posted by Rhinox23 on October 11th, 2012 @ 5:44pm CDT

Great coverage and pictures Seibertron! I'm very interested in some of your postings during the Q&A. How exactly did they tease about a US Smokescreen release?

Also, is there a Hasbro booth set up after the panel that will display the actual figures from the slideshow?

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Posted by Seibertron on October 11th, 2012 @ 5:46pm CDT

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:It looks like Hasbro is pulling out all the stops for Beast Hunters: all the non-Predacons are major retoolings! I wonder how I should work this out...

And the US packaging will shrink like it has already shrunk in Europe. Lovely.

From what I understand, they're not retoolings. They're new molds. At least, that's what I thought they said.

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Posted by Seibertron on October 11th, 2012 @ 5:47pm CDT

Rhinox23 wrote:Great coverage and pictures Seibertron! I'm very interested in some of your postings during the Q&A. How exactly did they tease about a US Smokescreen release?

Someone asked about it, then Jerry said something to the effect of "hmm ... he might look good as a deluxe figure. Do you guys think he would look good as a deluxe figure?" It was a typical tease answer.

Also, is there a Hasbro booth set up after the panel that will display the actual figures from the slideshow?

to the best of my knowledge, no there is not.

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Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on October 11th, 2012 @ 5:48pm CDT

Seibertron wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:It looks like Hasbro is pulling out all the stops for Beast Hunters: all the non-Predacons are major retoolings! I wonder how I should work this out...

And the US packaging will shrink like it has already shrunk in Europe. Lovely.

From what I understand, they're not retoolings. They're new molds. At least, that's what I thought they said.

I see an awful lot of similarities between the new toys and the RiD molds though, especially in Soundwave and Bumblebee's chest.

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Posted by ThePrimeFollower on October 11th, 2012 @ 5:50pm CDT

# Sgt Kup and Rumble last two figures before Beast Hunters

This has me concenerd what about the voyager Ultra Magnus.

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Posted by Noideaforaname on October 11th, 2012 @ 5:51pm CDT

Can't say I'm crazy about the direction Beast Hunters is headed as far as the non-Predacons are concerned, but it's not like I really cared about the Prime line before. Might get some of the more interesting Beasts.

The Kreon Micro-changers look to be greatly improved.

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Posted by Diem on October 11th, 2012 @ 5:51pm CDT

ThePrimeFollower wrote:
# Sgt Kup and Rumble last two figures before Beast Hunters

This has me concenerd what about the voyager Ultra Magnus.

He'll almost certainly be released at this point. If anything they'd just stick him in the new packaging.

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Posted by kirbenvost on October 11th, 2012 @ 5:56pm CDT

Bumblebee and Soundwave look like the same molds to me, with extra accessories. I (sarcastically) like how Hasbro's using this as an excuse to release the same characters AGAIN instead of giving us figures of ones we still haven't seen.

I also like (again, sarcasm) how Cyberverse Airachnid has pretty much the same articulation as the Deluxe. :lol:

Total fail.

Anyway, I'm skeptical but not against this line. As we can see there will still be vehicle TFs, so I'll pick up any new characters I'm interested in. No interest whatsoever in buying new versions of the same Prime characters I already have though.

Universe Platinum sounds cool as long as they aren't exclusives that are ridiculously difficult to get. The GDOs are okay but everyone's having a heck of a time trying to find Wheelie. If they had proper even case assortments and decent stock levels, it wouldn't be a problem.

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Posted by griftimus prime on October 11th, 2012 @ 5:58pm CDT

wow. look at all of those shelf warmers. i will get maybe 2 or 3 of these. what a horrible line. you know beast wars show may not have had that many characters on the show. but at least the toy line had a plentiful selection. this is pathetic.

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Posted by Noideaforaname on October 11th, 2012 @ 6:02pm CDT

Out of curiosity, how does that Omega Supreme measure up to the WfC/FoC molds?

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Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on October 11th, 2012 @ 6:06pm CDT

Noideaforaname wrote:Out of curiosity, how does that Omega Supreme measure up to the WfC/FoC molds?

He's as tall as Armada Unicron, Supreme Class.

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Posted by RAcast on October 11th, 2012 @ 6:07pm CDT

Yes yes YES YES!

Oh man all those retools are GORGEOUS! I have a total weakness for spiky armor, and I'm getting a total Monster Hunter vibe all over the place! DAT WHEELJACK MAN!

Also, anybody else notice Roadbuster Bulkhead's Dovahkiin helmet?

I'm sold on it, Legion Bee, probably Smokescreen, and Airachnid for sure(so SO much better than the deluxe)! As well as Deluxe Wheeljack, oh MAN! Deluxe Bee even looks AMAZING. I'm so glad I passed on the original now (snagged Dead End though, because that's a sweet, sweet mold is toxic orange and green).

And OMEGA FREAKING SUPREME! Energon Optimus looks great too, but dat OMEGA SUPRME! :APPLAUSE:

Hasbro, you blew my mind!

/fangasm

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Posted by PrymeStriker on October 11th, 2012 @ 6:39pm CDT

Lazerback?

Allow me to get Lazerback and Laserbeak mixed up, thx.

Love, that, Wheeljack. I'll get dat Soundwave for the Ravage.

Teased Deluxe Smokescreen. Hell yes. Now give us Insecticon and Shockwave and you'll make my day.

I'll have to see Predaking's scale with the others in the show before I make the decision to go with the Voyager or Leader class.

Bumblebee looks.......cool. I love his crossbow.

Hmm. I like the Cybeverse Airachnid, despite her being rather inaccurate. I won't get my hopes up.

Beast Hunters Deluxe Wave 1 is looking cool. I might just pick them all up or resort to eBay, because I only want Soundwave & Bumblebee for their accessories, in which I'll put with others.

I'll also be picking up that Cyberverse Smokescreen. The Apex Armor looks.......okay.......it shouldn't be with Breakdown, though. Ah well, just like the Energon Driller shouldn't be with Knock Out. :roll:

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Posted by Mindmaster on October 11th, 2012 @ 7:05pm CDT

I'll be damned if I didn't already have the original versions of Omega Supreme and Optimus.

I hate to admit it, but that Optimus in G1 colors would make a great stand-in for the forever-empty spot for a G1-based Optimus to duke it out with my Classics Megatron.

Omega Supreme is just.... beyond words. I would have never guessed a slight remolding of the head and claw. Would look nice on my Classics shelf. Now give us a Decepticon to duke it out with him!

This "Platinum Edition" intrigues me. The lover of Classics figures within me is Starscream-ing for G1-inspired characters.

Could really care less for the Prime line at this point. Again, the stupid price spike is forcing me to be very selective with my purchases.

Still crossing fingers for a domestic release of MP Soundwave plus Casseticons.

Images of OS/OP's packaging, please?

G1-inspired FOC Bruticus? Sign me up! Can't stand the retail's current colors. Means I can give my wallet a break after Halo 4.

Just thinking about 2014's "big surprise" just makes me want to go all-out Stewie Griffin and build a time machine.

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Posted by joevill on October 11th, 2012 @ 8:07pm CDT

WANT

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Posted by Megatron Wolf on October 11th, 2012 @ 8:27pm CDT

Holy crap its Sinnertwin, never thought in a million years he'd be back. Looks like theres at least one transformer ill be buying next year. All the legions look pretty good actually (except for predaking that is) might just stick to collecting them, well as long as the price doesnt go up. $5 is still a bit of a rip off for em but they're still not overly overpriced like deluxes & commanders. I am interested in that Soundwave but only if the price drops, never will i pay $15 for a deluxe. What is this Transformers legends about? is it a new toyline or just really badass artwork? Trading cards perhaps? But with that aside if hasbro wants this version of the toyline to be successful they better actually ship stuff out and lower the prices otherwise they're going to lose money just like they did this year. The TF sections in the stores here have been empty for months but they still continue to raise the prices even thought theres nothing there to sell.

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Posted by RAcast on October 11th, 2012 @ 8:51pm CDT

Megatron Wolf wrote:...

Indeed :\ The pricing nonsense has gotten out of hand. Yeah, retailers have made it worse, but the $15 price point was straight from Hasbro, and that's bad enough, especially with the smaller size! I've only been collecting the legion figures lately (not that I've bought much), and I'm quite happy with the way Flamewar came out, it's great. Also, GDO Laserbeak was a pleasant surprise.

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Posted by PrymeStriker on October 11th, 2012 @ 9:02pm CDT

I'm not a big fan of seeing the toys before the show or movie (or the season, in this case). It keeps me on the fence. The fence is not my favorite place to be. :-(

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Posted by grimdragon2001 on October 11th, 2012 @ 10:25pm CDT

any idea where omega supreme will be found, i really want that one. i actually do hope they wait til early 2013 to release him though, for the sake of my wallet. voyager Predaking and legion twinstrike interest me, but the others ill have to wait and see for

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Posted by Mkall on October 11th, 2012 @ 10:41pm CDT

grimdragon2001 wrote:any idea where omega supreme will be found, i really want that one. i actually do hope they wait til early 2013 to release him though, for the sake of my wallet. voyager Predaking and legion twinstrike interest me, but the others ill have to wait and see for

BBTS/Amazon exclusive

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Posted by Overcracker on October 11th, 2012 @ 10:53pm CDT

Energon Love. Awesome Omega and Prime are as good as bought.

The beast hunter Predacons have some interesting concepts, but nothing really pulling me towards them.

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Posted by Sabrblade on October 11th, 2012 @ 11:18pm CDT

Tons of cool new reveals, but not quite as many as I was hoping for.

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Posted by frogbat on October 12th, 2012 @ 1:39am CDT

Who is the bot in the top right of the sound wave slide... Looks a bit megatronish?

The third one looks like sky quake/dreadwing the 4th is unrecognisable

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Posted by gavinfuzzy on October 12th, 2012 @ 2:44am CDT

frogbat wrote:Who is the bot in the top right of the sound wave slide... Looks a bit megatronish?

The third one looks like sky quake/dreadwing the 4th is unrecognisable

Top is Bumblebbe, 3rd is Wheeljack, 4th is Lazerback. (new mold)

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Posted by King Kuuga on October 12th, 2012 @ 3:34am CDT

Seibertron wrote:From what I understand, they're not retoolings. They're new molds. At least, that's what I thought they said.

Comparing them point by point to their counterparts from the 2012 lines, they are indeed retools. They are EXTENSIVE retools, but retools nonetheless. The proportions are identical, parts appear to move in the same ways, all the panelings are the same, except now they're covered in spikes and other details and include new headsculpts and new weapons.

Sabrblade wrote:Tons of cool new reveals, but not quite as many as I was hoping for.

Well, comparing with last year's NYCC, it seems about the same. We saw First Edition and RID Wave 1 Deluxe, Commander, and Legion. Deluxe waves 2 and 3, and voyager wave 2 weren't shown off until Cybertron Con and Toy Fair. So I think those events in 2013 are where we can expect to see the next waves of this line. It's not a lot, especially since 3 out of every 4 figures are retools, but New Features (spikes and weaponry) + New Packaging = New Toy for Hasbro, so it's understandable.

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Posted by frogbat on October 12th, 2012 @ 4:05am CDT

gavinfuzzy wrote:
frogbat wrote:Who is the bot in the top right of the sound wave slide... Looks a bit megatronish?

The third one looks like sky quake/dreadwing the 4th is unrecognisable

Top is Bumblebbe, 3rd is Wheeljack, 4th is Lazerback. (new mold)

Cheers! I scrolled down too fast and didn't see bumblebees slide.. That should've made it obvious... Mmm I mistook a dark grey bumblebee for megs. Well done me.

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Posted by Trikeboy on October 12th, 2012 @ 7:03am CDT

OMG... What the hell were Hasbro thinking with these? Everything with these Beast Hunters just looks terrible. The spikey armor, weapons that look worse than mech tech and they just look absolutely crap.

When the best toys in the show are two repaints of Energon figs, things are not looking good for the franchise. The best thing about the upcomming releases is that I can save cash on these train wrecks and buy Encore Fortress Maximus. Again, an old G1 brick actually interests me more than the bile that Hasbro is planning to unleash.

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Posted by starwarrior1227 on October 12th, 2012 @ 8:51am CDT

Crap, the prime figs have been retooled to make them look like they come from DOTM's wreckers team...

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Posted by BeastProwl on October 12th, 2012 @ 9:16am CDT

And is that...SMOKESCREEN?

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Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on October 12th, 2012 @ 9:25am CDT

BeastProwl wrote:
And is that...SMOKESCREEN?

Legion Class, not Deluxe Class I'm afraid.

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Posted by Sabrblade on October 12th, 2012 @ 9:25am CDT

BeastProwl wrote:
And is that...SMOKESCREEN?

Two.

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Posted by PrymeStriker on October 12th, 2012 @ 9:48am CDT

Oh yeah, Legion Smokescreen, something I noticed

His legs are nearly identical to Knock Out, suggesting this is a massive retool and re-engineering of Cyberverse Knock Out.

Which means, if we get a Deluxe Smokescreen, with the possibility of having a new mold, we could get an extensive retool and re-engineering of Deluxe Knock Out. Just like Japan. :-?

Well, at least we now know Hasbro is capable of re-engineering their Knock Out toy to accommodate Smokescreen.

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Posted by Sodan-1 on October 12th, 2012 @ 10:28am CDT

What the hell have they done to Bumblebee? He looks ridiculous. I hope Hasbro doesn't think this is a valid reason to overfill assortments with him.

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Posted by King Kuuga on October 12th, 2012 @ 10:59am CDT

Trikeboy wrote:...weapons that look worse than mech tech and they just look absolutely crap.

A spring-loaded missile-launching crossbow, a grabber claw, a firing disc on a stick, and a spring-loaded gun that don't dig into the plastic limits (because these figures clearly have more plastic than this year's offerings) are worse than the mechtech weapons that didn't lock into place? I'm not seeing your logic.

starwarrior1227 wrote:Crap, the prime figs have been retooled to make them look like they come from DOTM's wreckers team...

Some of us actually like that. I expect kids will eat this right up, which is the goal.

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Posted by PrymeStriker on October 12th, 2012 @ 11:02am CDT

That Bot wrote:
Trikeboy wrote:...weapons that look worse than mech tech and they just look absolutely crap.

A spring-loaded missile-launching crossbow, a grabber claw, a firing disc on a stick, and a spring-loaded gun that don't dig into the plastic limits (because these figures clearly have more plastic than this year's offerings) are worse than the mechtech weapons that didn't lock into place? I'm not seeing your logic.

As long as they bring back guns with firing projectiles, I'm happy. I'm tired of figures with guns that "shoot" LED lights. :roll:

That Bot wrote:
starwarrior1227 wrote:Crap, the prime figs have been retooled to make them look like they come from DOTM's wreckers team...

Some of us actually like that. I expect kids will eat this right up, which is the goal.

Plaaaansss.

Re: Hasbro's Transformers NYCC 2012 panel text and gallery (1429571)
Posted by YoungPrime on October 12th, 2012 @ 11:15am CDT

Omega Supreme looked cool but everything else was an epic fail.

Does Hasbro hate deluxe Generation figures?

Why didn't anyone ask about the decline in size of the figures

Why didn't someone ask them what their thoughts are on the rising quality of 3rd party companies who dup their figures and how they plan on competing with that.

How about giving some of the TF fans some direct to video films based off of IDW's recent work?

It's not like we're begging for favors. We'll be giving them "cash" in return.

So depressing....why are they ignoring their oldest and most devoted consumers???

Guess I'll invest more of my spare time and money on video games then.

Re: Hasbro's Transformers NYCC 2012 panel text and gallery (1429577)
Posted by rpetras on October 12th, 2012 @ 11:23am CDT

There is a lot here to like, and a lot I'll be skipping.
I get to be choosey.

Saves me some $$$ for the wash of 3rd party stuff coming out in the near future.

Re: Hasbro's Transformers NYCC 2012 panel text and gallery (1429579)
Posted by PrymeStriker on October 12th, 2012 @ 11:25am CDT

YoungPrime wrote:So depressing....why are they ignoring their oldest and most devoted consumers???

Because we're 10% of their profit. Transformers are aimed at kids before adults, remember that.

Re: Hasbro's Transformers NYCC 2012 panel text and gallery (1429584)
Posted by King Kuuga on October 12th, 2012 @ 11:46am CDT

YoungPrime wrote:Does Hasbro hate deluxe Generation figures?

They showed us most of the 2013 Generations at SDCC. Kickback, Starscream, Magnus, Sideswipe, Air Raid. Also voyagers Grimlock, Soundwave, Soundblaster, and Blaster. That pushes us through Q1 2013, and we'll find out what's in store for Q2 and beyond at Cybertron Con in January.

Why didn't anyone ask about the decline in size of the figures

Maybe because that's been asked a bajillion times before. Also, these new toys are BIGGER. Because they add significant parts to existing molds and don't seem to scrap anything else in sacrifice, they have notably more plastic.

Why didn't someone ask them what their thoughts are on the rising quality of 3rd party companies who dup their figures and how they plan on competing with that.

Every time someone brings up third parties, they just ignore the question or brush it under the rug.

How about giving some of the TF fans some direct to video films based off of IDW's recent work?

That's expensive and probably wouldn't get a high profit.

It's not like we're begging for favors.

No, that's exactly what you're doing. They're throwing you a bunch of bones and you're being finnicky.

So depressing....why are they ignoring their oldest and most devoted consumers???

Classics
Universe 2.0
Generations
Generations FOC
Transformers 2010
Reveal the Shield
Masterpiece
SDCC Game-color Bruticus
BBTS G2 Bruticus
Amazon Year of the Dragon Ultimate Optimus
Amazon Jetwing Optimus
Year of the Dragon Energon Prime and Omega Supreme retooled and redecoed to look like WFC/G1
Masterpiece Thundercracker out of the MP-11 mold BEFORE JAPAN GETS ONE.
Masterpiece Prime 2.0 with trailer for only $100
And every other masterpiece except Ultra Magnus, Megatron, and Thundercracker from the first seeker mold.
If you look at all that, and can say "they're ignoring you", then you're incredibly picky.

Re: Hasbro's Transformers NYCC 2012 panel text and gallery (1429587)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on October 12th, 2012 @ 11:53am CDT

PrymeStriker wrote:
YoungPrime wrote:So depressing....why are they ignoring their oldest and most devoted consumers???

Because we're 10% of their profit. Transformers are aimed at kids before adults, remember that.

And despite popular belief, Hasbro doesn't owe us fans anything. How many of us have actually been collecting the toys, for all the 28 years the brand has been in existence?

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