Hasbro Shares Takara's Notes on Making Legacy Road Rocket a Female Ninja
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Hasbro designer Mark Maher shared lots of notes regarding the development of the Prime Arcee mold, which was furst designed under John Warden's watchful eyes.There are some interesting bits like how Axler was suggested as an alternate headsculpt (but dropped) and how it was Takara who came up with the idea of having Road Rocket be a female ninja.
"Hey guys, here is some behind the scenes development on the Deluxe Arcee, Road Rocket, and Flamewar.
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Arcee’s inital design was kicked off by John Warden and the illustration shown here was done by marcelomatere .
You will also notice the energon weapons that were drawn by santalux75.
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Now you know I dig action masters, so I was trying here for an Axer as the alt head. After talking it over with Yuki san at Takara, he had an amazing suggestion, he wanted to do a RoadPig or a RoadRocket alt head as a female ninja to go along with Arcee’s motif. I was onboard for the Road Rocket and off we went.
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You can see some of my hardlines over the sculpt to add some tings here and there, adjust some sizing, and add some sculpting flare . You can also see some design inputs I did for the alt head with the details to get her tires on her shoulders, which was a definite must.
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You will also see some early concepting done to figure out a crossbow attribute for Flamewar. I really like to get my hands on stuff and play out the fantasy. I always pictured her as a Shattered Glass Arcee personally, but to provide another strong character in the comic the team felt like it was a strong play. The shattered glass universe has been a real treat to work on and Im glad everyone is really digging it.
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Busy week so forgive me if Im MIA. I try my best to answer but Im currently drowning in the Rust Sea."
"Hey guys, here is some behind the scenes development on the Deluxe Arcee, Road Rocket, and Flamewar.
.
Arcee’s inital design was kicked off by John Warden and the illustration shown here was done by marcelomatere .
You will also notice the energon weapons that were drawn by santalux75.
.
Now you know I dig action masters, so I was trying here for an Axer as the alt head. After talking it over with Yuki san at Takara, he had an amazing suggestion, he wanted to do a RoadPig or a RoadRocket alt head as a female ninja to go along with Arcee’s motif. I was onboard for the Road Rocket and off we went.
.
You can see some of my hardlines over the sculpt to add some tings here and there, adjust some sizing, and add some sculpting flare . You can also see some design inputs I did for the alt head with the details to get her tires on her shoulders, which was a definite must.
.
You will also see some early concepting done to figure out a crossbow attribute for Flamewar. I really like to get my hands on stuff and play out the fantasy. I always pictured her as a Shattered Glass Arcee personally, but to provide another strong character in the comic the team felt like it was a strong play. The shattered glass universe has been a real treat to work on and Im glad everyone is really digging it.
.
Busy week so forgive me if Im MIA. I try my best to answer but Im currently drowning in the Rust Sea."
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Re: Hasbro Shares Takara's Notes on Making Legacy Road Rocket a Female Ninja (2139370)
Posted by JomasterII on July 25th, 2022 @ 7:54pm CDT
Posted by JomasterII on July 25th, 2022 @ 7:54pm CDT
Goddamn it, Takara robbed us of Femboy representation by making Road Rocket a kunoichi.
Re: Hasbro Shares Takara's Notes on Making Legacy Road Rocket a Female Ninja (2139373)
Posted by Emerje on July 25th, 2022 @ 8:18pm CDT
Exactly. Movie designs used in the movies tend to belong to studios so the only way Hasbro can do non-movie line figures with them is either original designs or movie inspired redesigns that aren't all that accurate.
Case in point, BotCon Cybertron's Most Wanted "C-81".
And to a lesser degree BotShots.
I really hope they didn't bother with the propsed Axer head.
Emerje
Posted by Emerje on July 25th, 2022 @ 8:18pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:AcademyofDrX wrote:Emerje wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:Sabrblade wrote:I would laugh if this Crasher toy turned out to instead be labeled as "Movie Universe Fracture", as an update to that Movieverse toy instead of the GoBot.
For some reasons, I'd prefer that name over Crasher.
Same, I'd instantly drop all my complaints about it and feel better about buying it if that were to happen.
I mean, the only way we're likely to get a movie character into Legacy is if it's an original Hasbro toy character so why not?
Emerje
I ... what ... I don't understand
Basically, the only way to get the live action movies represented in Legacy (which is drawing characters from all over the place) is to use a non-screen movie character. Incidentally, that would be perfect for characters like Incinerator, Wreckage and the like who have very sketchy ground for getting into Studio Series.
Exactly. Movie designs used in the movies tend to belong to studios so the only way Hasbro can do non-movie line figures with them is either original designs or movie inspired redesigns that aren't all that accurate.
Case in point, BotCon Cybertron's Most Wanted "C-81".
And to a lesser degree BotShots.
I really hope they didn't bother with the propsed Axer head.
Emerje
Re: Hasbro Shares Takara's Notes on Making Legacy Road Rocket a Female Ninja (2139376)
Posted by grimdragon2001 on July 25th, 2022 @ 8:45pm CDT
Eh, intent and interpretation are two different things. I'm not seeing the female in Road Rocket's figure and there is fiction depicting Road Rocket as male, so he'll be a guy on my shelves.
Posted by grimdragon2001 on July 25th, 2022 @ 8:45pm CDT
JomasterII wrote:Goddamn it, Takara robbed us of Femboy representation by making Road Rocket a kunoichi.
Eh, intent and interpretation are two different things. I'm not seeing the female in Road Rocket's figure and there is fiction depicting Road Rocket as male, so he'll be a guy on my shelves.
Re: Hasbro Shares Takara's Notes on Making Legacy Road Rocket a Female Ninja (2139378)
Posted by AcademyofDrX on July 25th, 2022 @ 8:50pm CDT
I can't imagine that's true. I could see if there were real-world vehicle licensing issues, but where is this idea coming from?
Edit: I guess I could also imagine that Hasbro couldn't license out movie figures to FunPub, but I can't imagine any reason that Hasbro could use movie character designs in, say, Studio Series but not Legacy. SS and Buzzworthy Bumblebee are both lines that mix movie and non-movie characters, since SS86 is independent of Paramount.
Posted by AcademyofDrX on July 25th, 2022 @ 8:50pm CDT
Emerje wrote:Exactly. Movie designs used in the movies tend to belong to studios so the only way Hasbro can do non-movie line figures with them is either original designs or movie inspired redesigns that aren't all that accurate.
Emerje
I can't imagine that's true. I could see if there were real-world vehicle licensing issues, but where is this idea coming from?
Edit: I guess I could also imagine that Hasbro couldn't license out movie figures to FunPub, but I can't imagine any reason that Hasbro could use movie character designs in, say, Studio Series but not Legacy. SS and Buzzworthy Bumblebee are both lines that mix movie and non-movie characters, since SS86 is independent of Paramount.
Re: Hasbro Shares Takara's Notes on Making Legacy Road Rocket a Female Ninja (2139379)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on July 25th, 2022 @ 9:31pm CDT
It's a combination of Paramount licensing the robot mode designs, and the car manufacturers licensing the models to Hasbro, and each comes with a set of Terms of Use, just like any license.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on July 25th, 2022 @ 9:31pm CDT
AcademyofDrX wrote:Emerje wrote:Exactly. Movie designs used in the movies tend to belong to studios so the only way Hasbro can do non-movie line figures with them is either original designs or movie inspired redesigns that aren't all that accurate.
Emerje
I can't imagine that's true. I could see if there were real-world vehicle licensing issues, but where is this idea coming from?
Edit: I guess I could also imagine that Hasbro couldn't license out movie figures to FunPub, but I can't imagine any reason that Hasbro could use movie character designs in, say, Studio Series but not Legacy. SS and Buzzworthy Bumblebee are both lines that mix movie and non-movie characters, since SS86 is independent of Paramount.
It's a combination of Paramount licensing the robot mode designs, and the car manufacturers licensing the models to Hasbro, and each comes with a set of Terms of Use, just like any license.
Re: Hasbro Shares Takara's Notes on Making Legacy Road Rocket a Female Ninja (2139380)
Posted by Razorbeast88 on July 25th, 2022 @ 9:39pm CDT
Posted by Razorbeast88 on July 25th, 2022 @ 9:39pm CDT
I was on the fence about cosmos but after watching the review, I definitely want him
Re: Hasbro Shares Takara's Notes on Making Legacy Road Rocket a Female Ninja (2139381)
Posted by AcademyofDrX on July 25th, 2022 @ 9:41pm CDT
Is the suggestion here that Hasbro is giving Paramount a cut of all their movie toy sales? I don't know what was in the contract, but this doesn't make sense as a general principle of derivative works IP as I understand it, "robot mode designs" would not be protected material separate from Hasbro's rights to the characters. As a point of comparison, IDW designs are not the property of IDW or comics artists, but become Hasbro's property to use as they see fit.
The movie itself is Paramount's property, certain assets involved in the production would be too, but "robot mode designs" wouldn't make sense to be a property for the licensee when the licensor's whole business is selling robot toys. I would really like to see some primary source info to back this up. I'm also not aware of any case of a licensor being prohibited from using new designs from a licensee, though there have been uncertified rumors of that with Masters of the Universe and She-Ra. I would be shocked if that's not cared for in modern contracts.
Posted by AcademyofDrX on July 25th, 2022 @ 9:41pm CDT
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:AcademyofDrX wrote:Emerje wrote:Exactly. Movie designs used in the movies tend to belong to studios so the only way Hasbro can do non-movie line figures with them is either original designs or movie inspired redesigns that aren't all that accurate.
Emerje
I can't imagine that's true. I could see if there were real-world vehicle licensing issues, but where is this idea coming from?
Edit: I guess I could also imagine that Hasbro couldn't license out movie figures to FunPub, but I can't imagine any reason that Hasbro could use movie character designs in, say, Studio Series but not Legacy. SS and Buzzworthy Bumblebee are both lines that mix movie and non-movie characters, since SS86 is independent of Paramount.
It's a combination of Paramount licensing the robot mode designs, and the car manufacturers licensing the models to Hasbro, and each comes with a set of Terms of Use, just like any license.
Is the suggestion here that Hasbro is giving Paramount a cut of all their movie toy sales? I don't know what was in the contract, but this doesn't make sense as a general principle of derivative works IP as I understand it, "robot mode designs" would not be protected material separate from Hasbro's rights to the characters. As a point of comparison, IDW designs are not the property of IDW or comics artists, but become Hasbro's property to use as they see fit.
The movie itself is Paramount's property, certain assets involved in the production would be too, but "robot mode designs" wouldn't make sense to be a property for the licensee when the licensor's whole business is selling robot toys. I would really like to see some primary source info to back this up. I'm also not aware of any case of a licensor being prohibited from using new designs from a licensee, though there have been uncertified rumors of that with Masters of the Universe and She-Ra. I would be shocked if that's not cared for in modern contracts.
Re: Hasbro Shares Takara's Notes on Making Legacy Road Rocket a Female Ninja (2139382)
Posted by Sabrblade on July 25th, 2022 @ 9:55pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on July 25th, 2022 @ 9:55pm CDT
At the very least, the designs of the robot characters in the 2007 movie were created by Paramount. Hasbro had to take those designs and figure out how to turn them into workable, transformable toys, since the designs for the on-screen characters were made first, before they were implemented in the toy design process.
That's why so many of the 2007 movie toys weren't as screen accurate as later attempts at making toys of those same designs in the toylines of the later movies.
That's why so many of the 2007 movie toys weren't as screen accurate as later attempts at making toys of those same designs in the toylines of the later movies.
Re: Hasbro Shares Takara's Notes on Making Legacy Road Rocket a Female Ninja (2139383)
Posted by Grahf_ on July 25th, 2022 @ 9:57pm CDT
Posted by Grahf_ on July 25th, 2022 @ 9:57pm CDT
Yeah, I'm not feeling the Axer head for the Prime Universe Arcee mold either. I'll still get it if it ever happens but it wouldn't do anything for me. I like the thought of Axer being the alt head for any new Lockdown they might do again. Circuit too. Or they can just lame out and make them all from Wheeljack instead as it's the closest to looking like RotF Lockdown in robot mode. Or at least, the alt mode parts line up in robot mode.
As for Flamewar, I'm glad it happened but I just don't get why they used that deco for the Shattered Glass version. I would've went with the Prime Cyberverse Legion deco for SG and the Botcon deco as either the regular deco for something like Generations Selects or as he said in the interview, SG Arcee. The Prime deco of Flamewar is far less evil/aggressive looking as it's only dark blue with orange and grey instead of the black with red and yellow. I guess at this point they can base a new deco SG Arcee on Prime Flamewar.
As for Flamewar, I'm glad it happened but I just don't get why they used that deco for the Shattered Glass version. I would've went with the Prime Cyberverse Legion deco for SG and the Botcon deco as either the regular deco for something like Generations Selects or as he said in the interview, SG Arcee. The Prime deco of Flamewar is far less evil/aggressive looking as it's only dark blue with orange and grey instead of the black with red and yellow. I guess at this point they can base a new deco SG Arcee on Prime Flamewar.
Re: Hasbro Shares Takara's Notes on Making Legacy Road Rocket a Female Ninja (2139384)
Posted by AcademyofDrX on July 25th, 2022 @ 10:05pm CDT
That makes sense, but that's a production logistics issue rather than an IP one. I think differences in representation are more likely to be due to practical reasons like that rather than rights issues.
Posted by AcademyofDrX on July 25th, 2022 @ 10:05pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:At the very least, the designs of the robot characters in the 2007 movie were created by Paramount. Hasbro had to take those designs and figure out how to turn them into workable, transformable toys, since the designs for the on-screen characters were made first, before they were implemented in the toy design process.
That's why so many of the 2007 movie toys weren't as screen accurate as later attempts at making toys of those same designs in the toylines of the later movies.
That makes sense, but that's a production logistics issue rather than an IP one. I think differences in representation are more likely to be due to practical reasons like that rather than rights issues.
Re: Hasbro Shares Takara's Notes on Making Legacy Road Rocket a Female Ninja (2139385)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on July 25th, 2022 @ 10:09pm CDT
I don't know the specifics, but the Live Action Movies can be considered a group project, with certain companies maintaining copyright of certain aspects of that project. The overview of who owns what can be quite convoluted, but we can agree Hasbro owns the toy designs and molds, and Paramount owns the movie itself and all assets thereof, including character designs. Because of licensing, everything legal turns into a spaghetti bowl with everyone tied together: Paramount can't do anything with the movie without Hasbro's say-so, and Hasbro can't release toys based on the movies without Paramount's say-so.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on July 25th, 2022 @ 10:09pm CDT
AcademyofDrX wrote:Jelze Bunnycat wrote:AcademyofDrX wrote:Emerje wrote:Exactly. Movie designs used in the movies tend to belong to studios so the only way Hasbro can do non-movie line figures with them is either original designs or movie inspired redesigns that aren't all that accurate.
Emerje
I can't imagine that's true. I could see if there were real-world vehicle licensing issues, but where is this idea coming from?
Edit: I guess I could also imagine that Hasbro couldn't license out movie figures to FunPub, but I can't imagine any reason that Hasbro could use movie character designs in, say, Studio Series but not Legacy. SS and Buzzworthy Bumblebee are both lines that mix movie and non-movie characters, since SS86 is independent of Paramount.
It's a combination of Paramount licensing the robot mode designs, and the car manufacturers licensing the models to Hasbro, and each comes with a set of Terms of Use, just like any license.
Is the suggestion here that Hasbro is giving Paramount a cut of all their movie toy sales? I don't know what was in the contract, but this doesn't make sense as a general principle of derivative works IP as I understand it, "robot mode designs" would not be protected material separate from Hasbro's rights to the characters. As a point of comparison, IDW designs are not the property of IDW or comics artists, but become Hasbro's property to use as they see fit.
The movie itself is Paramount's property, certain assets involved in the production would be too, but "robot mode designs" wouldn't make sense to be a property for the licensee when the licensor's whole business is selling robot toys. I would really like to see some primary source info to back this up. I'm also not aware of any case of a licensor being prohibited from using new designs from a licensee, though there have been uncertified rumors of that with Masters of the Universe and She-Ra. I would be shocked if that's not cared for in modern contracts.
I don't know the specifics, but the Live Action Movies can be considered a group project, with certain companies maintaining copyright of certain aspects of that project. The overview of who owns what can be quite convoluted, but we can agree Hasbro owns the toy designs and molds, and Paramount owns the movie itself and all assets thereof, including character designs. Because of licensing, everything legal turns into a spaghetti bowl with everyone tied together: Paramount can't do anything with the movie without Hasbro's say-so, and Hasbro can't release toys based on the movies without Paramount's say-so.
Re: Hasbro Shares Takara's Notes on Making Legacy Road Rocket a Female Ninja (2139388)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on July 25th, 2022 @ 10:24pm CDT
And bring on the Firecons!
Posted by Rodimus Prime on July 25th, 2022 @ 10:24pm CDT
Same here, in my headcanon Road Rocket will be G1 Override until we get an actual update to Override (as well as Dogfight and Backstreet!) since we're getting Crankcase, I'm optimistic about the other Triggercons as well as the Triggerbots.grimdragon2001 wrote:JomasterII wrote:Goddamn it, Takara robbed us of Femboy representation by making Road Rocket a kunoichi.
Eh, intent and interpretation are two different things. I'm not seeing the female in Road Rocket's figure and there is fiction depicting Road Rocket as male, so he'll be a guy on my shelves.
And bring on the Firecons!
Re: Hasbro Shares Takara's Notes on Making Legacy Road Rocket a Female Ninja (2139389)
Posted by AcademyofDrX on July 25th, 2022 @ 10:26pm CDT
I don't agree with that, but we can agree to disagree. It's complicated, it's governed by legal agreements none of us will ever see, and we can only speculate on the impacts like if these considerations factor into product decisions like non-movie movie characters.
Posted by AcademyofDrX on July 25th, 2022 @ 10:26pm CDT
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:[... but we can agree Hasbro owns the toy designs and molds, and Paramount owns the movie itself and all assets thereof, including character designs....
I don't agree with that, but we can agree to disagree. It's complicated, it's governed by legal agreements none of us will ever see, and we can only speculate on the impacts like if these considerations factor into product decisions like non-movie movie characters.
Re: Hasbro Shares Takara's Notes on Making Legacy Road Rocket a Female Ninja (2139391)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on July 25th, 2022 @ 10:27pm CDT
I have a feeling it will be a fun discussion in a different time and place.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on July 25th, 2022 @ 10:27pm CDT
AcademyofDrX wrote:Jelze Bunnycat wrote:[... but we can agree Hasbro owns the toy designs and molds, and Paramount owns the movie itself and all assets thereof, including character designs....
I don't agree with that, but we can agree to disagree. It's complicated, it's governed by legal agreements none of us will ever see, and we can only speculate on the impacts like if these considerations factor into product decisions like non-movie movie characters.
I have a feeling it will be a fun discussion in a different time and place.
Re: Hasbro Shares Takara's Notes on Making Legacy Road Rocket a Female Ninja (2139447)
Posted by RodimusPrimeUkraine1 on July 26th, 2022 @ 2:21pm CDT
I think I may be needing mental help, because I'm the only one who isnt over the moon about cosmos. Honestly, I'm more excited for lio convoy. Maybe it's because I spent way too much on a tr cosmos...
CRAP EBAY!!!!!!!
Posted by RodimusPrimeUkraine1 on July 26th, 2022 @ 2:21pm CDT
Razorbeast88 wrote:I was on the fence about cosmos but after watching the review, I definitely want him
I think I may be needing mental help, because I'm the only one who isnt over the moon about cosmos. Honestly, I'm more excited for lio convoy. Maybe it's because I spent way too much on a tr cosmos...
CRAP EBAY!!!!!!!
Re: Hasbro Shares Takara's Notes on Making Legacy Road Rocket a Female Ninja (2139449)
Posted by Sabrblade on July 26th, 2022 @ 2:22pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on July 26th, 2022 @ 2:22pm CDT
You're not alone. I'm mostly indifferent towards Cosmos too.RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:Razorbeast88 wrote:I was on the fence about cosmos but after watching the review, I definitely want him
I think I may be needing mental help, because I'm the only one who isnt over the moon about cosmos. Honestly, I'm more excited for lio convoy. Maybe it's because I spent way too much on a tr cosmos...
Re: Hasbro Shares Takara's Notes on Making Legacy Road Rocket a Female Ninja (2139455)
Posted by AcademyofDrX on July 26th, 2022 @ 2:37pm CDT
I have a feeling that eBay TR Cosmos futures are going to plummet. I might end up just throwing mine in the trash, even though it's a perfectly fine figure.
Posted by AcademyofDrX on July 26th, 2022 @ 2:37pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:You're not alone. I'm mostly indifferent towards Cosmos too.RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:Razorbeast88 wrote:I was on the fence about cosmos but after watching the review, I definitely want him
I think I may be needing mental help, because I'm the only one who isnt over the moon about cosmos. Honestly, I'm more excited for lio convoy. Maybe it's because I spent way too much on a tr cosmos...
I have a feeling that eBay TR Cosmos futures are going to plummet. I might end up just throwing mine in the trash, even though it's a perfectly fine figure.
Re: Hasbro Shares Takara's Notes on Making Legacy Road Rocket a Female Ninja (2139456)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on July 26th, 2022 @ 2:39pm CDT
Posted by Wolfman Jake on July 26th, 2022 @ 2:39pm CDT
None of the Velocitron figures have been spotted in-store at U.S. Walmarts yet, correct? I assume there must be a street date on them of 8/1/2022 or thereabouts. Does anyone know for certain? I’m going to have to start checking Walmart stores daily if I’m to find Cosmos, because he’s the only one that was sold out before I got the alert that preorders were live.
Re: Hasbro Shares Takara's Notes on Making Legacy Road Rocket a Female Ninja (2139461)
Posted by AcademyofDrX on July 26th, 2022 @ 2:48pm CDT
Not a bad idea, but I would also recommend staking out the Pulse page. Many partner exclusives from Walmart and Amazon will have small quantities available after Pulse gets stock and fulfills pre-orders. Even the Terrorsaur pre-order came back in eventually. It will most likely happen much later than the Walmart retail availability, so that might just be a Plan B option.
Posted by AcademyofDrX on July 26th, 2022 @ 2:48pm CDT
Wolfman Jake wrote:None of the Velocitron figures have been spotted in-store at U.S. Walmarts yet, correct? I assume there must be a street date on them of 8/1/2022 or thereabouts. Does anyone know for certain? I’m going to have to start checking Walmart stores daily if I’m to find Cosmos, because he’s the only one that was sold out before I got the alert that preorders were live.
Not a bad idea, but I would also recommend staking out the Pulse page. Many partner exclusives from Walmart and Amazon will have small quantities available after Pulse gets stock and fulfills pre-orders. Even the Terrorsaur pre-order came back in eventually. It will most likely happen much later than the Walmart retail availability, so that might just be a Plan B option.
Re: Hasbro Shares Takara's Notes on Making Legacy Road Rocket a Female Ninja (2139466)
Posted by RodimusPrimeUkraine1 on July 26th, 2022 @ 2:55pm CDT
If they do, sucks for me. I'm pretty blessed, but when it comes to potp trilogy legends figures, I end up paying more than I should.
Posted by RodimusPrimeUkraine1 on July 26th, 2022 @ 2:55pm CDT
AcademyofDrX wrote:Sabrblade wrote:You're not alone. I'm mostly indifferent towards Cosmos too.RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:Razorbeast88 wrote:I was on the fence about cosmos but after watching the review, I definitely want him
I think I may be needing mental help, because I'm the only one who isnt over the moon about cosmos. Honestly, I'm more excited for lio convoy. Maybe it's because I spent way too much on a tr cosmos...
I have a feeling that eBay TR Cosmos futures are going to plummet. I might end up just throwing mine in the trash, even though it's a perfectly fine figure.
If they do, sucks for me. I'm pretty blessed, but when it comes to potp trilogy legends figures, I end up paying more than I should.
Re: Hasbro Shares Takara's Notes on Making Legacy Road Rocket a Female Ninja (2139482)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on July 26th, 2022 @ 3:40pm CDT
Believe me, I’m doing that too. Well, as long as you can still get Plan B in the U.S. at least.
Posted by Wolfman Jake on July 26th, 2022 @ 3:40pm CDT
AcademyofDrX wrote:Wolfman Jake wrote:None of the Velocitron figures have been spotted in-store at U.S. Walmarts yet, correct? I assume there must be a street date on them of 8/1/2022 or thereabouts. Does anyone know for certain? I’m going to have to start checking Walmart stores daily if I’m to find Cosmos, because he’s the only one that was sold out before I got the alert that preorders were live.
Not a bad idea, but I would also recommend staking out the Pulse page. Many partner exclusives from Walmart and Amazon will have small quantities available after Pulse gets stock and fulfills pre-orders. Even the Terrorsaur pre-order came back in eventually. It will most likely happen much later than the Walmart retail availability, so that might just be a Plan B option.
Believe me, I’m doing that too. Well, as long as you can still get Plan B in the U.S. at least.
Re: Hasbro Shares Takara's Notes on Making Legacy Road Rocket a Female Ninja (2139483)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on July 26th, 2022 @ 3:43pm CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on July 26th, 2022 @ 3:43pm CDT
I only just realized that Legacy Velocitron Blurr will actually work pretty well as Cyberverse Blurr, and now I know where that figure will be going once I have him. Re-appropriation of a figure where I already own one of that character has been fun for some Cyberverse members of the shelf.
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Posted by Sabrblade on July 26th, 2022 @ 3:55pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on July 26th, 2022 @ 3:55pm CDT
Don't forget to paint him solid brown when you do.D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I only just realized that Legacy Velocitron Blurr will actually work pretty well as Cyberverse Blurr, and now I know where that figure will be going once I have him. Re-appropriation of a figure where I already own one of that character has been fun for some Cyberverse members of the shelf.
Re: Hasbro Shares Takara's Notes on Making Legacy Road Rocket a Female Ninja (2139489)
Posted by RodimusPrimeUkraine1 on July 26th, 2022 @ 4:20pm CDT
Cyberverse has a place in me, but not much my shelf. Blurr I dont care for though, but I'd like a shadow striker.
Posted by RodimusPrimeUkraine1 on July 26th, 2022 @ 4:20pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Don't forget to paint him solid brown when you do.D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I only just realized that Legacy Velocitron Blurr will actually work pretty well as Cyberverse Blurr, and now I know where that figure will be going once I have him. Re-appropriation of a figure where I already own one of that character has been fun for some Cyberverse members of the shelf.
Cyberverse has a place in me, but not much my shelf. Blurr I dont care for though, but I'd like a shadow striker.
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Posted by ZeroWolf on July 26th, 2022 @ 4:28pm CDT
That's just evil
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 26th, 2022 @ 4:28pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Don't forget to paint him solid brown when you do.D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I only just realized that Legacy Velocitron Blurr will actually work pretty well as Cyberverse Blurr, and now I know where that figure will be going once I have him. Re-appropriation of a figure where I already own one of that character has been fun for some Cyberverse members of the shelf.
That's just evil
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Posted by RodimusPrimeUkraine1 on July 26th, 2022 @ 4:34pm CDT
Indeed.
Posted by RodimusPrimeUkraine1 on July 26th, 2022 @ 4:34pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Don't forget to paint him solid brown when you do.D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I only just realized that Legacy Velocitron Blurr will actually work pretty well as Cyberverse Blurr, and now I know where that figure will be going once I have him. Re-appropriation of a figure where I already own one of that character has been fun for some Cyberverse members of the shelf.
That's just evil
Indeed.
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Posted by william-james88 on July 26th, 2022 @ 5:03pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on July 26th, 2022 @ 5:03pm CDT
The velocitron line has not been spotted yet in US walmarts
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Posted by Emerje on July 26th, 2022 @ 5:57pm CDT
Probably, but while we're talking about it I just want to point out that we have proof that modern figures are still made under Paramount's license. Look no further than the legal information on Crossover Ultimate X-Spanse.
As heavily altered as that figure is it's still a SS Jetfire retool and still requires a Dreamworks copyright. Of course it also has Disney and Marvel copyrights and the very obvious Lockheed Martin one. And people wondered why that figure was so expensive.
I'm more surprised they haven't shown up in Asia yet.
Emerje
Posted by Emerje on July 26th, 2022 @ 5:57pm CDT
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:AcademyofDrX wrote:Jelze Bunnycat wrote:[... but we can agree Hasbro owns the toy designs and molds, and Paramount owns the movie itself and all assets thereof, including character designs....
I don't agree with that, but we can agree to disagree. It's complicated, it's governed by legal agreements none of us will ever see, and we can only speculate on the impacts like if these considerations factor into product decisions like non-movie movie characters.
I have a feeling it will be a fun discussion in a different time and place.
Probably, but while we're talking about it I just want to point out that we have proof that modern figures are still made under Paramount's license. Look no further than the legal information on Crossover Ultimate X-Spanse.
As heavily altered as that figure is it's still a SS Jetfire retool and still requires a Dreamworks copyright. Of course it also has Disney and Marvel copyrights and the very obvious Lockheed Martin one. And people wondered why that figure was so expensive.
william-james88 wrote:The velocitron line has not been spotted yet in US walmarts
I'm more surprised they haven't shown up in Asia yet.
Emerje
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Posted by chuckdawg1999 on July 26th, 2022 @ 6:50pm CDT
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on July 26th, 2022 @ 6:50pm CDT
So, even though I had to wait a few days to place the order, between Walmart.com and Pulse I was able to get all the Velocitron figures except for Cosmos. According to the interview, my only chance to get one in a reasonable length of time will involve money and/or violence for the sake of violence.
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Posted by AcademyofDrX on July 26th, 2022 @ 10:06pm CDT
I don't think that's saying what I think you're saying. DreamWorks is the licensee for Lockheed Martin, which is the licensor. All that text says is that the Transformers movie producers have rights to use the Blackbird, it doesn't say anything about Hasbro's licensing relationship with DreamWorks. I mean, presumably someone's getting paid, but who knows how.
Posted by AcademyofDrX on July 26th, 2022 @ 10:06pm CDT
Emerje wrote:Jelze Bunnycat wrote:AcademyofDrX wrote:Jelze Bunnycat wrote:[... but we can agree Hasbro owns the toy designs and molds, and Paramount owns the movie itself and all assets thereof, including character designs....
I don't agree with that, but we can agree to disagree. It's complicated, it's governed by legal agreements none of us will ever see, and we can only speculate on the impacts like if these considerations factor into product decisions like non-movie movie characters.
I have a feeling it will be a fun discussion in a different time and place.
Probably, but while we're talking about it I just want to point out that we have proof that modern figures are still made under Paramount's license. Look no further than the legal information on Crossover Ultimate X-Spanse.
As heavily altered as that figure is it's still a SS Jetfire retool and still requires a Dreamworks copyright. Of course it also has Disney and Marvel copyrights and the very obvious Lockheed Martin one. And people wondered why that figure was so expensive.william-james88 wrote:The velocitron line has not been spotted yet in US walmarts
I'm more surprised they haven't shown up in Asia yet.
Emerje
I don't think that's saying what I think you're saying. DreamWorks is the licensee for Lockheed Martin, which is the licensor. All that text says is that the Transformers movie producers have rights to use the Blackbird, it doesn't say anything about Hasbro's licensing relationship with DreamWorks. I mean, presumably someone's getting paid, but who knows how.
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Posted by william-james88 on July 26th, 2022 @ 10:28pm CDT
You can still
A) find him in stores
B) cancel your pre-orders and just buy a case from Robot Kingdom (that's what a friend of mine did)
Posted by william-james88 on July 26th, 2022 @ 10:28pm CDT
chuckdawg1999 wrote:So, even though I had to wait a few days to place the order, between Walmart.com and Pulse I was able to get all the Velocitron figures except for Cosmos. According to the interview, my only chance to get one in a reasonable length of time will involve money and/or violence for the sake of violence.
You can still
A) find him in stores
B) cancel your pre-orders and just buy a case from Robot Kingdom (that's what a friend of mine did)
Re: Hasbro Shares Takara's Notes on Making Legacy Road Rocket a Female Ninja (2139554)
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 27th, 2022 @ 7:50am CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 27th, 2022 @ 7:50am CDT
Greetings Seibertronians!
While the Velocitron line is Walmart exclusive in the US, here in the UK, it looks like Symths will be carrying the line, at retail at least.
This comes to us via fellow Seibertron user, CyclonusG1, who also shared proof in the way of Velocitron 500 Voyager Class Override!
They also say that so far the only stock Symths seem to have received is Override, Voyager Class Hauler and Deluxe Class Cosmos.
So UK Transformers fans, you ready to start hunting? Or are you giving this line a large swerve? Chime in with your thoughts below!
Don't forgot to share pictures of your latest hauls in the Energon Pub and stay tuned to Seibertron for all the latest news and reviews!
While the Velocitron line is Walmart exclusive in the US, here in the UK, it looks like Symths will be carrying the line, at retail at least.
This comes to us via fellow Seibertron user, CyclonusG1, who also shared proof in the way of Velocitron 500 Voyager Class Override!
They also say that so far the only stock Symths seem to have received is Override, Voyager Class Hauler and Deluxe Class Cosmos.
So UK Transformers fans, you ready to start hunting? Or are you giving this line a large swerve? Chime in with your thoughts below!
Don't forgot to share pictures of your latest hauls in the Energon Pub and stay tuned to Seibertron for all the latest news and reviews!
Re: Hasbro Shares Takara's Notes on Making Legacy Road Rocket a Female Ninja (2139562)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on July 27th, 2022 @ 10:25am CDT
Are there solid cases of just Cosmos, then? That would be welcome news!
Posted by Wolfman Jake on July 27th, 2022 @ 10:25am CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:They also say that so far the only stock Symths seem to have received is Override, Voyager Class Hauler and Deluxe Class Cosmos.
Are there solid cases of just Cosmos, then? That would be welcome news!
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Posted by CyclonusG1 on July 27th, 2022 @ 10:43am CDT
Yes, we received solid cases of each figure. However, depending on where you are that might be different. Some retailers might have just ordered case assortments rather than just individual figures
Posted by CyclonusG1 on July 27th, 2022 @ 10:43am CDT
Wolfman Jake wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:They also say that so far the only stock Symths seem to have received is Override, Voyager Class Hauler and Deluxe Class Cosmos.
Are there solid cases of just Cosmos, then? That would be welcome news!
Yes, we received solid cases of each figure. However, depending on where you are that might be different. Some retailers might have just ordered case assortments rather than just individual figures
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Posted by Emerje on July 27th, 2022 @ 10:43am CDT
I feel like Hasbro would have just bypassed Dreamworks all together and gotten the license straight from Lockheed Martin in that case. The fact that they still needed to keep legal info on the box for Dreamworks tells me they have some say in the use of the figures and their designs even when they're being used in another company's toy. I do take back what I said earlier about Paramount, though. Looking at some Studio Series boxes and brushing up on movie production info I realized a made a mistake in saying Paramount had right to the figures. Paramount is just the distributor for the films and nothing more. Dreamworks produced the first movies and they appear to have kept the design rights for those films (though Hasbro was on the production team, but not as a studio), but the rest of the movies were primarily produced by Hasbro Films/Allspark Pictures/Entertainment One, all (obviously) owned by Hasbro. So I mostly take back what I said about Hasbro not being able to use movie designs and characters outside of movie lines except for the first two movies, that was outdated information. And thinking about it, we already have a movie design that's crossed that boundary fully and without the name needing to be change for legal reasons like my previous Megatron example, Authentics Barricade.
Now that's a new mold I'd like to see on Velocitron (to pull things back on topic...).
Emerje
Posted by Emerje on July 27th, 2022 @ 10:43am CDT
AcademyofDrX wrote:Emerje wrote:Jelze Bunnycat wrote:AcademyofDrX wrote:Jelze Bunnycat wrote:[... but we can agree Hasbro owns the toy designs and molds, and Paramount owns the movie itself and all assets thereof, including character designs....
I don't agree with that, but we can agree to disagree. It's complicated, it's governed by legal agreements none of us will ever see, and we can only speculate on the impacts like if these considerations factor into product decisions like non-movie movie characters.
I have a feeling it will be a fun discussion in a different time and place.
Probably, but while we're talking about it I just want to point out that we have proof that modern figures are still made under Paramount's license. Look no further than the legal information on Crossover Ultimate X-Spanse.
As heavily altered as that figure is it's still a SS Jetfire retool and still requires a Dreamworks copyright. Of course it also has Disney and Marvel copyrights and the very obvious Lockheed Martin one. And people wondered why that figure was so expensive.william-james88 wrote:The velocitron line has not been spotted yet in US walmarts
I'm more surprised they haven't shown up in Asia yet.
Emerje
I don't think that's saying what I think you're saying. DreamWorks is the licensee for Lockheed Martin, which is the licensor. All that text says is that the Transformers movie producers have rights to use the Blackbird, it doesn't say anything about Hasbro's licensing relationship with DreamWorks. I mean, presumably someone's getting paid, but who knows how.
I feel like Hasbro would have just bypassed Dreamworks all together and gotten the license straight from Lockheed Martin in that case. The fact that they still needed to keep legal info on the box for Dreamworks tells me they have some say in the use of the figures and their designs even when they're being used in another company's toy. I do take back what I said earlier about Paramount, though. Looking at some Studio Series boxes and brushing up on movie production info I realized a made a mistake in saying Paramount had right to the figures. Paramount is just the distributor for the films and nothing more. Dreamworks produced the first movies and they appear to have kept the design rights for those films (though Hasbro was on the production team, but not as a studio), but the rest of the movies were primarily produced by Hasbro Films/Allspark Pictures/Entertainment One, all (obviously) owned by Hasbro. So I mostly take back what I said about Hasbro not being able to use movie designs and characters outside of movie lines except for the first two movies, that was outdated information. And thinking about it, we already have a movie design that's crossed that boundary fully and without the name needing to be change for legal reasons like my previous Megatron example, Authentics Barricade.
Now that's a new mold I'd like to see on Velocitron (to pull things back on topic...).
Emerje
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Posted by AcademyofDrX on July 27th, 2022 @ 10:56am CDT
Posted by AcademyofDrX on July 27th, 2022 @ 10:56am CDT
At with the Cartoon Network rights item discussed in the Legacy thread, I still don't believe "character designs" are protected material, but that's just my opinion. As for the presumed sublicense of Lockheed via DreamWorks, I'm not sure that translates into a "say" or direct payments, but those are possible. My basic assumption is that Hasbro needs, and has, the general authority to keep making movie toys in perpetuity without having to relicense from the film's producers, but that's just an assumption. It's probably defined explicitly in the contract.
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Posted by DeathReviews on July 27th, 2022 @ 2:22pm CDT
Posted by DeathReviews on July 27th, 2022 @ 2:22pm CDT
Stumbling across a Cosmos figure in stores seems about the only hope for getting one. They sold out almost instantly on Pulse, and nobody else has them either. They may have underestimated the demand on this one...
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Posted by -Kanrabat- on July 27th, 2022 @ 2:26pm CDT
At least in Canada, pre-orders are still up at Walmart.ca
Posted by -Kanrabat- on July 27th, 2022 @ 2:26pm CDT
DeathReviews wrote:Stumbling across a Cosmos figure in stores seems about the only hope for getting one. They sold out almost instantly on Pulse, and nobody else has them either. They may have underestimated the demand on this one...
At least in Canada, pre-orders are still up at Walmart.ca
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Posted by Rodimus Prime on July 27th, 2022 @ 2:47pm CDT
Can we expect the rest of the Minibots in the now-apparent Legacy trilogy? We still have at least 9 to go:
Beachcomber
Seaspray
Powerglide
Windcharger
Brawn
Gears
Outback
Tailgate
Swerve
I'm probably forgetting a few as well. I think Powerglide is the most likely while Outback the least likely.
Posted by Rodimus Prime on July 27th, 2022 @ 2:47pm CDT
That's how I got most of my TR and ER figures, with the exception of the Coneheads. I just happened to find them at the Wal-Mart I worked at, and usually they were the only copies, so I managed to snag them. I don't work there anymore, so hopefully I'll get lucky and find him either at Target or Wal-Mart. I've been luckier with Legacy and SS stuff when it comes to preorders thanks to Amazon and Pulse, but Cosmos was definitely a hot item for sure.DeathReviews wrote:Stumbling across a Cosmos figure in stores seems about the only hope for getting one. They sold out almost instantly on Pulse, and nobody else has them either. They may have underestimated the demand on this one...
Can we expect the rest of the Minibots in the now-apparent Legacy trilogy? We still have at least 9 to go:
Beachcomber
Seaspray
Powerglide
Windcharger
Brawn
Gears
Outback
Tailgate
Swerve
I'm probably forgetting a few as well. I think Powerglide is the most likely while Outback the least likely.
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Posted by Wolfman Jake on July 27th, 2022 @ 3:22pm CDT
Posted by Wolfman Jake on July 27th, 2022 @ 3:22pm CDT
In a Q&A from SDCC, we learned that there are plans to eventually get to the rest of the Minibots. We’re probably just going to have to be patient, though, just like with the SS86 Dinobots and Legacy Insecticons. It’s going to take a few years to get everyone done.
I hope Powerglide is next, if not Gears/Swerve. PotP Beachcomber is good enough for now, as are Brawn/Outback and Windcharger/Tailgate, even if the scale of those T30/Prime Wars figures is a little off now.
I hope Powerglide is next, if not Gears/Swerve. PotP Beachcomber is good enough for now, as are Brawn/Outback and Windcharger/Tailgate, even if the scale of those T30/Prime Wars figures is a little off now.
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Posted by DeathReviews on July 27th, 2022 @ 3:31pm CDT
Yes, I assume they'll be LESS motivated to do figures like Brawn, Beachcomber, Seaspray and other minis, just because they did them for earlier (but not too distant) lines like PotP and TR. TR Seaspray particularly was excellent as a Legends size figure.
Posted by DeathReviews on July 27th, 2022 @ 3:31pm CDT
Wolfman Jake wrote:In a Q&A from SDCC, we learned that there are plans to eventually get to the rest of the Minibots. We’re probably just going to have to be patient, though, just like with the SS86 Dinobots and Legacy Insecticons. It’s going to take a few years to get everyone done.
I hope Powerglide is next, if not Gears/Swerve. PotP Beachcomber is good enough for now, as are Brawn/Outback and Windcharger/Tailgate, even if the scale of those T30/Prime Wars figures is a little off now.
Yes, I assume they'll be LESS motivated to do figures like Brawn, Beachcomber, Seaspray and other minis, just because they did them for earlier (but not too distant) lines like PotP and TR. TR Seaspray particularly was excellent as a Legends size figure.
Re: Hasbro Shares Takara's Notes on Making Legacy Road Rocket a Female Ninja (2139606)
Posted by RodimusPrimeUkraine1 on July 27th, 2022 @ 3:55pm CDT
Gears is most likely, he was planned but cancelled
Posted by RodimusPrimeUkraine1 on July 27th, 2022 @ 3:55pm CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:That's how I got most of my TR and ER figures, with the exception of the Coneheads. I just happened to find them at the Wal-Mart I worked at, and usually they were the only copies, so I managed to snag them. I don't work there anymore, so hopefully I'll get lucky and find him either at Target or Wal-Mart. I've been luckier with Legacy and SS stuff when it comes to preorders thanks to Amazon and Pulse, but Cosmos was definitely a hot item for sure.DeathReviews wrote:Stumbling across a Cosmos figure in stores seems about the only hope for getting one. They sold out almost instantly on Pulse, and nobody else has them either. They may have underestimated the demand on this one...
Can we expect the rest of the Minibots in the now-apparent Legacy trilogy? We still have at least 9 to go:
Beachcomber
Seaspray
Powerglide
Windcharger
Brawn
Gears
Outback
Tailgate
Swerve
I'm probably forgetting a few as well. I think Powerglide is the most likely while Outback the least likely.
Gears is most likely, he was planned but cancelled
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Posted by -Kanrabat- on July 27th, 2022 @ 4:34pm CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on July 27th, 2022 @ 4:34pm CDT
Ever since I preordered that green Grapple guy and Cosmos, Walmart.ca keep sending me that EXACT SAME email EVERY SINGLE DAYS.
Like, why?
Like, why?
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Posted by Lore Keeper on July 28th, 2022 @ 5:49am CDT
Posted by Lore Keeper on July 28th, 2022 @ 5:49am CDT
Stores in the UK are getting solid cases of Cosmos while he's practically a unicorn in the US. Awesome...
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Posted by blackeyedprime on July 28th, 2022 @ 7:22am CDT
And he's being left on the shelves by those who have the previous cosmos... Well at least in my case.
Hopefully with the amount of people that have the previous cosmos that don't want this version should make it easier to get gor those that do.
Wouldn't be surprised if smyths doesnt stock black Scourge if they are already reducing legacy g2 prime.
Posted by blackeyedprime on July 28th, 2022 @ 7:22am CDT
Lore Keeper wrote:Stores in the UK are getting solid cases of Cosmos while he's practically a unicorn in the US. Awesome...
And he's being left on the shelves by those who have the previous cosmos... Well at least in my case.
Hopefully with the amount of people that have the previous cosmos that don't want this version should make it easier to get gor those that do.
Wouldn't be surprised if smyths doesnt stock black Scourge if they are already reducing legacy g2 prime.
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Posted by Emerje on July 28th, 2022 @ 8:27am CDT
A lot of the people in the US that don't want them will buy them anyway and sell them on eBay for 3x the price and probably get it.
Emerje
Posted by Emerje on July 28th, 2022 @ 8:27am CDT
blackeyedprime wrote:Lore Keeper wrote:Stores in the UK are getting solid cases of Cosmos while he's practically a unicorn in the US. Awesome...
And he's being left on the shelves by those who have the previous cosmos... Well at least in my case.
Hopefully with the amount of people that have the previous cosmos that don't want this version should make it easier to get gor those that do.
Wouldn't be surprised if smyths doesnt stock black Scourge if they are already reducing legacy g2 prime.
A lot of the people in the US that don't want them will buy them anyway and sell them on eBay for 3x the price and probably get it.
Emerje
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Posted by CyclonusG1 on July 28th, 2022 @ 8:55am CDT
Smyths will be stocking Scourge, we've just not got him yet. Generally Transformers start to be discounted within 3 months of release in order to clear space for the next wave of stock as stores just don't have the space to have multiple waves still on shelves
Posted by CyclonusG1 on July 28th, 2022 @ 8:55am CDT
blackeyedprime wrote:Lore Keeper wrote:Stores in the UK are getting solid cases of Cosmos while he's practically a unicorn in the US. Awesome...
And he's being left on the shelves by those who have the previous cosmos... Well at least in my case.
Hopefully with the amount of people that have the previous cosmos that don't want this version should make it easier to get gor those that do.
Wouldn't be surprised if smyths doesnt stock black Scourge if they are already reducing legacy g2 prime.
Smyths will be stocking Scourge, we've just not got him yet. Generally Transformers start to be discounted within 3 months of release in order to clear space for the next wave of stock as stores just don't have the space to have multiple waves still on shelves
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Posted by ZeroWolf on July 28th, 2022 @ 9:09am CDT
What's the liklihood of the rest of the line coming to symths?
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 28th, 2022 @ 9:09am CDT
CyclonusG1 wrote:blackeyedprime wrote:Lore Keeper wrote:Stores in the UK are getting solid cases of Cosmos while he's practically a unicorn in the US. Awesome...
And he's being left on the shelves by those who have the previous cosmos... Well at least in my case.
Hopefully with the amount of people that have the previous cosmos that don't want this version should make it easier to get gor those that do.
Wouldn't be surprised if smyths doesnt stock black Scourge if they are already reducing legacy g2 prime.
Smyths will be stocking Scourge, we've just not got him yet. Generally Transformers start to be discounted within 3 months of release in order to clear space for the next wave of stock as stores just don't have the space to have multiple waves still on shelves
What's the liklihood of the rest of the line coming to symths?
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Posted by CyclonusG1 on July 28th, 2022 @ 10:08am CDT
We have internal listings for the entire line so far so unless we have a siege wave 2 situation (which never showed up at all), then we should get the entire lot
Posted by CyclonusG1 on July 28th, 2022 @ 10:08am CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:CyclonusG1 wrote:blackeyedprime wrote:Lore Keeper wrote:Stores in the UK are getting solid cases of Cosmos while he's practically a unicorn in the US. Awesome...
And he's being left on the shelves by those who have the previous cosmos... Well at least in my case.
Hopefully with the amount of people that have the previous cosmos that don't want this version should make it easier to get gor those that do.
Wouldn't be surprised if smyths doesnt stock black Scourge if they are already reducing legacy g2 prime.
Smyths will be stocking Scourge, we've just not got him yet. Generally Transformers start to be discounted within 3 months of release in order to clear space for the next wave of stock as stores just don't have the space to have multiple waves still on shelves
What's the liklihood of the rest of the line coming to symths?
We have internal listings for the entire line so far so unless we have a siege wave 2 situation (which never showed up at all), then we should get the entire lot
Re: Hasbro Shares Takara's Notes on Making Legacy Road Rocket a Female Ninja (2139676)
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 28th, 2022 @ 10:09am CDT
Good to know
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 28th, 2022 @ 10:09am CDT
CyclonusG1 wrote::CON:ZeroWolf wrote:CyclonusG1 wrote:blackeyedprime wrote:Lore Keeper wrote:Stores in the UK are getting solid cases of Cosmos while he's practically a unicorn in the US. Awesome...
And he's being left on the shelves by those who have the previous cosmos... Well at least in my case.
Hopefully with the amount of people that have the previous cosmos that don't want this version should make it easier to get gor those that do.
Wouldn't be surprised if smyths doesnt stock black Scourge if they are already reducing legacy g2 prime.
Smyths will be stocking Scourge, we've just not got him yet. Generally Transformers start to be discounted within 3 months of release in order to clear space for the next wave of stock as stores just don't have the space to have multiple waves still on shelves
What's the liklihood of the rest of the line coming to symths?
We have internal listings for the entire line so far so unless we have a siege wave 2 situation (which never showed up at all), then we should get the entire lot
Good to know
