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Hasbro Reports 71% Profit Loss in the First Quarter of 2011

Transformers News: Hasbro Reports 71% Profit Loss in the First Quarter of 2011

Thursday, April 14th, 2011 2:55PM CDT

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Hasbro is reporting a 71% drop in profits for the first quarter of 2011. That figure sounds worse than it actually is, as there are several factors that need to be taken into consideration. First quarter sales for toy companies usually take a hit due to following the holiday season, Hasbro has made a sizable investment in getting The Hub off the ground, and due a reduced demand for toys in the first quarter many retailers have decided to focus on clearing out leftover holiday inventory rather than ordering new product (sound familiar?).

There is however a silver lining, boys products were actually up 25% while girls, preschool, and games showed a loss. Despite their weak start Hasbro's Brian Goldner remains optimistic for the remainder of the year and states they are still on track to meet their full year's sales plan. Hasbro has a huge entertainment line-up for this summer, which includes toy lines for "Captain America: the First Avenger", "Thor", and of course "Transformers DOTM" to help bolster sales. To read more follow these links: Reuters or Yahoo
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Re: Hasbro Reports 71% Profit Loss in the First Quarter of 2011 (1209098)
Posted by whacko on April 14th, 2011 @ 3:07pm CDT
You know what's good or getting you earnings up? Getting you damn toys into stores! The only Transformers products I have seen at any of 20 shops near my house have old ROTF Toys and not many of those.

I get it, most stores are waiting for the avalanche of TF3 toys before stocking up. But don't you guys (Hasbro) have any sales reps pushing your partner retailers to get the latest lines like Generations and RTS?

Not only that, but Hasbro doesn't even stock HasbroToyShop.com very well. There are tons of toys I would hand my money over for if they were available for me to buy.
Re: Hasbro Reports 71% Profit Loss in the First Quarter of 2011 (1209100)
Posted by Twitchythe3rd on April 14th, 2011 @ 3:16pm CDT
whacko wrote:You know what's good or getting you earnings up? Getting you damn toys into stores! The only Transformers products I have seen at any of 20 shops near my house have old ROTF Toys and not many of those.

I get it, most stores are waiting for the avalanche of TF3 toys before stocking up. But don't you guys (Hasbro) have any sales reps pushing your partner retailers to get the latest lines like Generations and RTS?

Not only that, but Hasbro doesn't even stock HasbroToyShop.com very well. There are tons of toys I would hand my money over for if they were available for me to buy.


due a reduced demand for toys in the first quarter many retailers have decided to focus on clearing out leftover holiday inventory rather than ordering new product (sound familiar?).


It's a case of Garbage In, Garbage Out.

Retailers aren't seeing a need to order new stuff when theres a ton of old stuff that needs to be cleared out.
Re: Hasbro Reports 71% Profit Loss in the First Quarter of 2011 (1209103)
Posted by RodimalToyota on April 14th, 2011 @ 3:23pm CDT
Might help to get the Tuner Mudflap ROTF toys off the shelves so i can get some gosh darn RTS stuff before it's annihilated by DOTM.
Re: Hasbro Reports 71% Profit Loss in the First Quarter of 2011 (1209106)
Posted by Twitchythe3rd on April 14th, 2011 @ 3:25pm CDT
Ignore this. Random double post.
Re: Hasbro Reports 71% Profit Loss in the First Quarter of 2011 (1209108)
Posted by ae_productions on April 14th, 2011 @ 3:28pm CDT
No doubt.

I have not seen ANYTHING for RTS in about 2 months. We are still polluted with 1st and 2nd movie toys.

Now we get more shelf warmers with DOTM toys!

Retail stores need to clearance that Movie crap out.

I would have spent a LOT of money on Transformers had they been available ANY WHERE. I know A LOT of Transformers fans who feel the same way. We all wanted the RTS and Generations toys. Few of my pals across the country (and even fewer overseas) can find but a handful of the line. That's why they're down 71%.
Re: Hasbro Reports 71% Profit Loss in the First Quarter of 2011 (1209111)
Posted by rpetras on April 14th, 2011 @ 3:30pm CDT
RodimalToyota wrote:Might help to get the Tuner Mudflap ROTF toys off the shelves so i can get some gosh darn RTS stuff before it's annihilated by DOTM.




QFT!

I have FIVE, count them FIVE pegs full of Tuner Mudflaps at my local TRU.

:BANG_HEAD: :BANG_HEAD: :BANG_HEAD:
Re: Hasbro Reports 71% Profit Loss in the First Quarter of 2011 (1209112)
Posted by Lord Onixprime on April 14th, 2011 @ 3:31pm CDT
Might have more profits if the shelves hadn't been clogged with Hunt for the Decepticon crap since September. I see the same shelf warmers every time I walk into the store.

Unfortunately, this was caused by the boom of the first movie in which they couldn't keep shelves full, and then the flop of ROTF where public interest died after a few months. Even so, Hasbro kept pushing out movie crap since 2009. Let's hope they don't do the same for DOTM. Run the line for maybe a year, summer to summer, but then let it die.

Every time I do find new figures it is like 1 or 2 of each new guy and they go fast.
Re: Hasbro Reports 71% Profit Loss in the First Quarter of 2011 (1209120)
Posted by BATTLEMASTER IIC on April 14th, 2011 @ 3:45pm CDT
I think it's because they decided to cancel RTS Windcharger and haven't gotten the other new goods up here yet!

Yes I'm being fececious.
Re: Hasbro Reports 71% Profit Loss in the First Quarter of 2011 (1209121)
Posted by MINDVVIPE on April 14th, 2011 @ 3:47pm CDT
Heres hoping their (Hasbro's) Marketing teams learn of the bad figures clogging shelves and avoid those types of figure, in regards to their colour/mold/ size class, etc. Anything that'll give them a headsup idea of when to STOP with a certain line of figures, especially ones that are getting multiple iterations like ravage and mudflap. The ROTF line has a lot of figures with muted colour schemes, that I bet when a few are left behind, and they clump together, become this immediate off switch in the brain of a child, or child in an adults body to look past them and not even give them a second chance.
But until then, we are all pretty much screwed and at the mercy of our local business men store owners, hehe.
Re: Hasbro Reports 71% Profit Loss in the First Quarter of 2011 (1209124)
Posted by Seibertron on April 14th, 2011 @ 3:50pm CDT
I keep saying our stock got sent overseas to capitalize on the higher dollar due to a quarterly loss here. Or maybe they just got what they were supposed to get and orders are simply down.

I keep saying it and I'll say it one more time: stop wasting gas driving around for these figures, buy the figures online or import them, or don't plan on getting them.
Re: Hasbro Reports 71% Profit Loss in the First Quarter of 2011 (1209125)
Posted by kirbenvost on April 14th, 2011 @ 3:51pm CDT
I was going to say, their sales would be a lot better if shelves weren't full of old crap or NOTHING AT ALL. I guess this can partially be blamed on retailers ordering way too much of the wrong things.

It's like they don't know how to predict how things will sell. Just because initial shipments of Generations Wave 1 sold quickly didn't mean they had to order 5 times as much on the next order, thus shelfwarming pegs even now.

And now of course they want to wait for DOTM. :rolleyes:

That's why I ordered all my recent stuff on BBTS. With the strong Canadian dollar, it's actually comparable even with shipping.
Re: Hasbro Reports 71% Profit Loss in the First Quarter of 2011 (1209127)
Posted by MINDVVIPE on April 14th, 2011 @ 3:54pm CDT
kirbenvost wrote:I was going to say, their sales would be a lot better if shelves weren't full of old crap or NOTHING AT ALL. I guess this can partially be blamed on retailers ordering way too much of the wrong things.

It's like they don't know how to predict how things will sell. Just because initial shipments of Generations Wave 1 sold quickly didn't mean they had to order 5 times as much on the next order, thus shelfwarming pegs even now.

And now of course they want to wait for DOTM. :rolleyes:

That's why I ordered all my recent stuff on BBTS. With the strong Canadian dollar, it's actually comparable even with shipping.


I'd almost guess that they don't "predict" too much at all compared to how much we the fans and consumers know about the potential success of the figures. I think they just have waaaay too much to try and estimate sales for in their stores, and sorta just go with their best bets according to limited market research. And compounded with a video game department (I don't know how it all works, just guessing), it might seem that they almost don't care too much about certain toy lines as long as the big hitters make it through.

But hey, if even with a recession, Hasbro is doing good, then hats off to them, and perhaps to us fans who don't stop spending on TFs even when we're poor. :lol:
Re: Hasbro Reports 71% Profit Loss in the First Quarter of 2011 (1209129)
Posted by ae_productions on April 14th, 2011 @ 3:55pm CDT
Seibertron wrote:I keep saying our stock got sent overseas to capitalize on the higher dollar due to a quarterly loss here. Or maybe they just got what they were supposed to get and orders are simply down.

I keep saying it and I'll say it one more time: stop wasting gas driving around for these figures, buy the figures online or import them, or don't plan on getting them.


You may be right. It's hard paying 2 - 5 times what a figure retails for. But if you add in the wasted time, the cost of gas...it adds up.

Someone mentioned RTS (Generations) peg warmers. Where are you at? The ONLY peg warms we have here, and we have them in mass quantity, is ROTF toys.
Re: Hasbro Reports 71% Profit Loss in the First Quarter of 2011 (1209132)
Posted by Burn on April 14th, 2011 @ 4:02pm CDT
ae_productions wrote:Someone mentioned RTS (Generations) peg warmers. Where are you at? The ONLY peg warms we have here, and we have them in mass quantity, is ROTF toys.


Well as I told the staff last night, I just went into my local K-Mart and found the Generations Legends on clearance. And realistically they've only been in Australia for 2-3 months.
Re: Hasbro Reports 71% Profit Loss in the First Quarter of 2011 (1209134)
Posted by Seibertron on April 14th, 2011 @ 4:07pm CDT
ae_productions wrote:
Seibertron wrote:I keep saying our stock got sent overseas to capitalize on the higher dollar due to a quarterly loss here. Or maybe they just got what they were supposed to get and orders are simply down.

I keep saying it and I'll say it one more time: stop wasting gas driving around for these figures, buy the figures online or import them, or don't plan on getting them.


You may be right. It's hard paying 2 - 5 times what a figure retails for. But if you add in the wasted time, the cost of gas...it adds up.

Someone mentioned RTS (Generations) peg warmers. Where are you at? The ONLY peg warms we have here, and we have them in mass quantity, is ROTF toys.


We have newer figures from about 5 or 6 months ago warming our shelves around the Chicago area. This includes Thunderwing, Skullgrin, Cliffjumper, Dirge and even Blurr in some stores (I saw 3 at a Walmart the other day). HFTD The Fallen and Highbrow can be found frequently. Mindset and Fallback can be found at some stores, I think RTS deluxe wave 1 are pretty common at Kohl's (have you checked out your local Kohl's?). No G1 Legends and no newer scouts. DOTM Preview Prime can be found at TRU and some Walmarts.
Re: Hasbro Reports 71% Profit Loss in the First Quarter of 2011 (1209136)
Posted by Anonymous on April 14th, 2011 @ 4:10pm CDT
Nice numbers... so when can you get the kiddies back into the factories to put together more toys? C'mon time is money, Hasbro!
Re: Hasbro Reports 71% Profit Loss in the First Quarter of 2011 (1209138)
Posted by NTESHFT on April 14th, 2011 @ 4:11pm CDT
I have given up on searching retail stores. I only look at Walmart's simply because I go there to get groceries, and I'm not even disappointed anymore. I won't even go to Toys R Us, unless they have an exclusive I want. Everything I get now days comes from BBTS or Robotkingdom.com Hasbro should really start looking at this site more than they do to see what the fans have to say. Tell you what Hasbro- just open a new department of people just to look at all the fan-based sites for your toys and come up with ideas and I'll be the first one to turn in an application...... :KREMZEEK:
Re: Hasbro Reports 71% Profit Loss in the First Quarter of 2011 (1209139)
Posted by icenemesis on April 14th, 2011 @ 4:12pm CDT
rpetras wrote:
RodimalToyota wrote:Might help to get the Tuner Mudflap ROTF toys off the shelves so i can get some gosh darn RTS stuff before it's annihilated by DOTM.




QFT!

I have FIVE, count them FIVE pegs full of Tuner Mudflaps at my local TRU.

:BANG_HEAD: :BANG_HEAD: :BANG_HEAD:



is he really that bad, i haven't seen one in my area since December. dirge and the rest of the generation are what clogging up the shelves here.
Re: Hasbro Reports 71% Profit Loss in the First Quarter of 2011 (1209144)
Posted by griftimus prime on April 14th, 2011 @ 4:23pm CDT
stop making sooo many bad repaints and shelf warmers.

also .. gas prices are through the roof.
Re: Hasbro Reports 71% Profit Loss in the First Quarter of 2011 (1209147)
Posted by Kibble on April 14th, 2011 @ 4:25pm CDT
I really don't understand why Hasbro doesn't put more effort into making sure hasbrotoyshop.com is fully stocked all the time! If the B&M stores can manage to put figures on sale for $8 or $9 a pop, I can't imagine they're doing so at a loss...so if they're paying Hasbro that or less per fig, yet Hasbro still charges full retail price at HTS.com, you'd think they'd like to sell all the merchandise they possibly could via their website and make that much more profit per figure.
Re: Hasbro Reports 71% Profit Loss in the First Quarter of 2011 (1209148)
Posted by whacko on April 14th, 2011 @ 4:28pm CDT
Twitchythe3rd wrote:It's a case of Garbage In, Garbage Out.

Retailers aren't seeing a need to order new stuff when theres a ton of old stuff that needs to be cleared out.


I could accept that to a point, however all my local stores are practically out of Transformers toys altogether.

There is a section for them, but there are practically no toys. I would say that of the 3 Walmarts near me, they each have an average of 20 deluxe class figures and 3-4 leaders or voyagers. True, mostly they are crap like Volts and Ravages but its not like the shelves are bursting with Transformers toys.

The same goes for the Targets near me (2 of them) except they at least have a few Generations series 1 figures. Of the two TRUs near me, one has decent stock of older toys and animated figures, and the other one is again practically empty even though there is a large section reserved for Transformers.
Re: Hasbro Reports 71% Profit Loss in the First Quarter of 2011 (1209150)
Posted by Seibertron on April 14th, 2011 @ 4:38pm CDT
headsortails wrote:I have given up on searching retail stores. I only look at Walmart's simply because I go there to get groceries, and I'm not even disappointed anymore. I won't even go to Toys R Us, unless they have an exclusive I want. Everything I get now days comes from BBTS or Robotkingdom.com Hasbro should really start looking at this site more than they do to see what the fans have to say. Tell you what Hasbro- just open a new department of people just to look at all the fan-based sites for your toys and come up with ideas and I'll be the first one to turn in an application...... :KREMZEEK:


I can assure you that they check out this site and are well aware of these distribution problems. Not sure what the problem is on their end, but they're aware of the problem.
Re: Hasbro Reports 71% Profit Loss in the First Quarter of 2011 (1209152)
Posted by Pontimax 01 on April 14th, 2011 @ 4:43pm CDT
Kibble wrote:I really don't understand why Hasbro doesn't put more effort into making sure hasbrotoyshop.com is fully stocked all the time! If the B&M stores can manage to put figures on sale for $8 or $9 a pop, I can't imagine they're doing so at a loss...so if they're paying Hasbro that or less per fig, yet Hasbro still charges full retail price at HTS.com, you'd think they'd like to sell all the merchandise they possibly could via their website and make that much more profit per figure.



Smack this guy.... He's guilty of making sense. :P
Re: Hasbro Reports 71% Profit Loss in the First Quarter of 2011 (1209153)
Posted by Megatron Wolf on April 14th, 2011 @ 4:45pm CDT
Maybe the reason is because theres been nothing new out since november and the shelves have been empty since mid january, theres demand but no supply and thats why hasbro is losing money. Oh and dont forget the price gouging that alot of stores are doing $15 for a deluxe and $27 for a voyager is outragious, many people see those prices and just keep walking even if they see the figure they want. If hasbro actually did some leg work this wouldnt be happening, the fans would be happy cause theyd have the toys they want and hasbro would be happy cause they'd be rich little bastards instead of just bastards. Im going to start taking pictures off all the barren isles in teh store around me and send them to hasbro, its not just tf thats not there star wars and gijoe are all gone as well or almost all gone. That hasbros 3 flagship boys merchandise. It pisses me off cause all the figures that i really want are in these last couple of wave that im sure ill never see. Its all bayformers fault if you think about it, and hasbro for making stupid repaint that no one wants or the original is still on the shelves.
Re: Hasbro Reports 71% Profit Loss in the First Quarter of 2011 (1209154)
Posted by Optimus1138 on April 14th, 2011 @ 4:45pm CDT
Can't say I'm surprised. After all, if they don't sell their stuff online or send it to stores, how are they ever going to make any money?
Re: Hasbro Reports 71% Profit Loss in the First Quarter of 2011 (1209158)
Posted by RK_Striker_JK_5 on April 14th, 2011 @ 4:50pm CDT
I order most of my stuff online nowadays. Factoring in gas and travel length, it's a heck of a lot cheaper!
Re: Hasbro Reports 71% Profit Loss in the First Quarter of 2011 (1209160)
Posted by Blozor on April 14th, 2011 @ 4:53pm CDT
I was just thinking last night that it's absolutely stupid that I have to pay as much for official Hasbro products as I do for third party customs because Hasbro failed to properly market the last half of their product lines.
Re: Hasbro Reports 71% Profit Loss in the First Quarter of 2011 (1209165)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on April 14th, 2011 @ 5:04pm CDT
This always happens in off years when there is no movie. Be worried after DOTM if this happens again and continues to happen.
Re: Hasbro Reports 71% Profit Loss in the First Quarter of 2011 (1209166)
Posted by TulioDude on April 14th, 2011 @ 5:07pm CDT
El Duque wrote:Hasbro is reporting a 71% drop in profits for the first quarter of 2011. That figure sounds worse than it actually is , as there are several factors that need to be taken into consideration. First quarter sales for toy companies usually take a hit due to following the holiday season, Hasbro has made a sizable investment in getting The Hub off the ground, and due a reduced demand for toys in the first quarter many retailers have decided to focus on clearing out leftover holiday inventory rather than ordering new product (sound familiar?).

There is however a silver lining, boys products were actually up 25% while girls, preschool, and games showed a loss. Despite their weak start Hasbro's Brian Goldner remains optimistic for the remainder of the year and states they are still on track for their full year's sales plans. Hasbro has a huge entertainment line-up for this summer, which includes toy lines for "Captain America: the First Avenger", "Thor", and of course "Transformers DOTM" to help bolster sales. To read more click follow these links: Reuters or Yahoo

Hasbro is okay.
Their sales gonna skyrocket during the summer.
Re: Hasbro Reports 71% Profit Loss in the First Quarter of 2011 (1209171)
Posted by prowl123 on April 14th, 2011 @ 5:31pm CDT
It would help to get the Tuner Mudflaps off the shelves.
Re: Hasbro Reports 71% Profit Loss in the First Quarter of 2011 (1209182)
Posted by Shockwave7 on April 14th, 2011 @ 6:05pm CDT
What's the timetable? I know the movie toys are on the horizon. But I couldn't care less about the movie toys. Figures I'm waiting to see on shelves are:
Lugnut, Windcharger, Thundercracker, Wheeljack, Warpath, Frenzy/Rumble.

And that's pretty much it. I'll be done with collecting for a while once I have those. I may pick up some of the Transformers Prime figures when they come out, but that's not until this Fall or later. There seems to be a nice long 6 month stretch where I'm not expecting to buy ANY figures except the ones I listed above.

But what's the timetable? Surely (if Hasbro is putting these figures out) they will have to be in stores before the movie toys. But I haven't seen any of them. All I'm seeing is old ROTF toys and about 2,000 copies of 'electrostatic jolt'. When will the newer RTS and Generations figures be on the shelf?

I'd order them from HasbroToyShop.com, but in the short time yesterday between seeing the article and getting to a computer where I might place an order, they went 'out of stock'....
Re: Hasbro Reports 71% Profit Loss in the First Quarter of 2011 (1209183)
Posted by Cyber Bishop on April 14th, 2011 @ 6:07pm CDT
whacko wrote:You know what's good or getting you earnings up? Getting you damn toys into stores!


Thank you.
Re: Hasbro Reports 71% Profit Loss in the First Quarter of 2011 (1209194)
Posted by alternator77 on April 14th, 2011 @ 6:49pm CDT
first off i dont fault hasbro for it entirely. having said that i do fault them on a few other things.
first when you pack the figures try spreading them out evenly i think i speak for many who are tired of case assortments where theres 1 windcharger, kup, or scourge and 6 or 7 skullgrins. if you spread them out evenly then stores would go through them more frequently and then place more orders.
secondly enough with the multipacks of old/outdated figures (im looking at you gathering at nemesis :BOOM: )when most people young and old have the leader or the individual figures already it does little good to release them in a pack for 30-50$.
thirdly encourage the stores carrying your merchandise to actually put the products online the purchase and save me some damn time/gas there is no reason for me to log on to a website (any retailer)and see they only have 5-10 figures.
fourthly enough with the repaints already. the reason skids/mudflap and jolt are sitting around is cause everyone has them (pretty much) putting lighting bolts on the side will not move them out of stores period.
fifth and finally i have no problem with bb but try not to release 10-15 this time around i have 3 (stealth,regular,cliffjumper, and ultimate)and i have NO intention of buying any more again i think many on here share this opinion.
ok rant over. :D
Re: Hasbro Reports 71% Profit Loss in the First Quarter of 2011 (1209197)
Posted by Lord Onixprime on April 14th, 2011 @ 6:54pm CDT
chuckdawg1999 wrote:This always happens in off years when there is no movie. Be worried after DOTM if this happens again and continues to happen.


Hopefully not, with the first Prime figures coming out in October, and the full scale Prime line following suit some time after that it should supplement there being no movie. Not to mention that Classics/Universe/Generations will be back again (probably under a new moniker). The movies have yet to kill it off for good, plus Hasbro designed a lot of those figures with alternate heads. Give the retailers time to get their faith back again with the DOTM stuff and Generations whould make a come back.
Re: Hasbro Reports 71% Profit Loss in the First Quarter of 2011 (1209199)
Posted by Autobot032 on April 14th, 2011 @ 6:56pm CDT
It's their own fault. Over producing figures that clearly don't sell is obviously a flaw in their thinking.

Not sending new stuff out when they can is another braindead move.



And you can't tell me that retailers aren't ordering, because they are, and the new stuff sells out immediately.

Leaving loads and loads of immovable product.

The retailers are somewhat to blame, but damn, Hasbro took a large dose of stupid this year, themselves.
Re: Hasbro Reports 71% Profit Loss in the First Quarter of 2011 (1209208)
Posted by LiKwid on April 14th, 2011 @ 7:22pm CDT
Out of all of the retailers I visit in my area the one I requent has a hard time of getting new stuff in stock and actually putting it out. What i decdided to do is when I see certain figures chillin on the pegs I buy em up and take them down to a shelter/goodwill and donate them. I figure if no one is going to buy them I might as well buy em all up and donate them to someone who appreciate having a transformer. It helps them, the collector and a nice little tax write off ;)everybody wins :)
Re: Hasbro Reports 71% Profit Loss in the First Quarter of 2011 (1209229)
Posted by Solrac333 on April 14th, 2011 @ 8:24pm CDT
It's the 71% of extra Tuner Mudflaps they made.
Re: Hasbro Reports 71% Profit Loss in the First Quarter of 2011 (1209231)
Posted by CybertronHotShot on April 14th, 2011 @ 8:30pm CDT
Seibertron wrote:I keep saying our stock got sent overseas to capitalize on the higher dollar due to a quarterly loss here. Or maybe they just got what they were supposed to get and orders are simply down.

I keep saying it and I'll say it one more time: stop wasting gas driving around for these figures, buy the figures online or import them, or don't plan on getting them.

I don´t think so, in Brazil we´re stuck with the HFTD toys in the stores and online we only have Gennerations Drift,Thrust and WFC Prime and Cliffjumper.
Re: Hasbro Reports 71% Profit Loss in the First Quarter of 2011 (1209236)
Posted by BeastProwl on April 14th, 2011 @ 8:40pm CDT
well the earthquake could have had an effect too, lest we forget :-(
Re: Hasbro Reports 71% Profit Loss in the First Quarter of 2011 (1209247)
Posted by amtm on April 14th, 2011 @ 9:10pm CDT
An excerpt from Hasbro's annual report filed earlier this year. Maybe this will provide some insight. (Bolding added by me.)

Revenues from the Company’s top five customers, all retailers, accounted for approximately 50% of its consolidated net revenues in 2010 and 54% and 52% of its consolidated net revenues in 2009 and 2008, respectively. In recent years certain customers in the retail sector have experienced economic difficulty. ...

The Company’s revenue pattern continues to show the second half of the year to be more significant to its overall business for the full year. In 2010, approximately 65% of the Company’s full year net revenues were recognized in the second half of the year. Although the Company expects that this concentration will continue, particularly as more of its business has shifted to larger customers with order patterns concentrated in the second half of the year, this concentration may be less in years where the Company has products related to a major motion picture release that occurs in the first half of the year. In 2010, the Company had products related to the mid-year major motion picture release of IRON MAN 2, while in 2009 the Company had products related to the mid-year major motion picture releases of TRANSFORMERS: REVENGE OF THE FALLEN, G.I. JOE: THE RISE OF COBRA and X-MEN ORIGINS: WOLVERINE. The concentration of sales in the second half of the year increases the risk of (a) underproduction of popular items, (b) overproduction of less popular items, and (c) failure to achieve tight and compressed shipping schedules. The business of the Company is characterized by customer order patterns which vary from year to year largely because of differences in the degree of consumer acceptance of a product line, product availability, marketing strategies, inventory levels, policies of retailers and differences in overall economic conditions. The trend of larger retailers has been to maintain lower inventories throughout the year and purchase a greater percentage of product within or close to the fourth quarter holiday consumer selling season, which includes Christmas.

Quick response inventory management practices being used by retailers result in more orders being placed for immediate delivery and fewer orders being placed well in advance of shipment. Retailers are timing their orders so that they are being filled by suppliers closer to the time of purchase by consumers. To the extent that retailers do not sell as much of their year-end inventory purchases during this holiday selling season as they had anticipated, their demand for additional product earlier in the following fiscal year may be curtailed, thus negatively impacting the Company’s future revenues.
Re: Hasbro Reports 71% Profit Loss in the First Quarter of 2011 (1209251)
Posted by Evil_the_Nub on April 14th, 2011 @ 9:13pm CDT
Megatron Wolf wrote:Maybe the reason is because theres been nothing new out since november and the shelves have been empty since mid january, theres demand but no supply and thats why hasbro is losing money. Oh and dont forget the price gouging that alot of stores are doing $15 for a deluxe and $27 for a voyager is outragious, many people see those prices and just keep walking even if they see the figure they want. If hasbro actually did some leg work this wouldnt be happening, the fans would be happy cause theyd have the toys they want and hasbro would be happy cause they'd be rich little bastards instead of just bastards. Im going to start taking pictures off all the barren isles in teh store around me and send them to hasbro, its not just tf thats not there star wars and gijoe are all gone as well or almost all gone. That hasbros 3 flagship boys merchandise. It pisses me off cause all the figures that i really want are in these last couple of wave that im sure ill never see. Its all bayformers fault if you think about it, and hasbro for making stupid repaint that no one wants or the original is still on the shelves.

I think it's a combination of retailers ordering too much of the wrong stuff that nobody wants and Hasbro trying to wedge in a couple more waves at the last second. Hasbro should have known retailers are crammed with stuff nobody wants and won't order more. Both parties need to do more research.
Re: Hasbro Reports 71% Profit Loss in the First Quarter of 2011 (1209261)
Posted by amtm on April 14th, 2011 @ 9:47pm CDT
Yeah, I think Hasbro needs to stop front-loading their waves with unknown characters and repaints and putting really desirable characters and new molds in late waves that retailers never order. Better selection in early waves means faster sales, means retailers will be encouraged to order more of the late waves. They might also have to resign themselves to the fact that it seems retailers don't want to order anything new for about three to six months in front of a movie. Hopefully they'll just package the recently produced, unsold waves with the DOTM line and sell them with the first wave of movie toys. Retailers will be happy to stock up when there's a big movie at the theater next door.
Re: Hasbro Reports 71% Profit Loss in the First Quarter of 2011 (1209275)
Posted by Rated X on April 14th, 2011 @ 10:43pm CDT
Try stopping all these corparate stratagies and just listen to your buyers. If if you really consider kids your primary target, create a damn online survey for kids on your website instead of corny video games.
Re: Hasbro Reports 71% Profit Loss in the First Quarter of 2011 (1209278)
Posted by Overcracker on April 14th, 2011 @ 10:56pm CDT
Retailers are happy when there's a Movie associated with a toy line. However like many have said, they are too happy early on and then forget about it.

I've seen this for the past few years in retailers around me. Walmart seems to be the biggest example of this.

They'll order tons of Wave 1 and 2 of movie figures, so much that it becomes unmoveable. And then nothing.
I saw it with the 2007 movie figures where Wave wave 1 bumblebee's and barricades just sat at the pegs moths after the movie. But I never saw anything resembling waves 3 or 4. After a while they order some cases of the last waves and then move on.

And its not just Transformers, The Iron-Man 1 and 2 lines suffered the same fate. Tons of the early waves, and then nothing.

My Walmart still has several pegs full of Iron-Man 2's 3 and 3/4 inch figures sitting around. Not to mention Terminator Salvation leftovers after all this time.

Right now My Walmart's have HFTD wave with Sea Attack Ravages, Side Arm Sideswipes and tons of some version of Mudflap clogging shelves, but no Generations or Reveal the Shield stuff has made its way out.

I don't expect to see anything from those lines with the Movie nearing release.
Re: Hasbro Reports 71% Profit Loss in the First Quarter of 2011 (1209302)
Posted by bvzxa on April 15th, 2011 @ 1:02am CDT
Well I wouldn't blame this on the movie-line. Hasbro should have just left well enough alone and stop trying to cash in on ROTF> HFTD should have been released in ROTF, and that way they would have gotten out Generations early. If you ask me Generations was released very badly overall.
Re: Hasbro Reports 71% Profit Loss in the First Quarter of 2011 (1209307)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on April 15th, 2011 @ 1:24am CDT
bvzxa wrote:Well I wouldn't blame this on the movie-line. Hasbro should have just left well enough alone and stop trying to cash in on ROTF> HFTD should have been released in ROTF, and that way they would have gotten out Generations early. If you ask me Generations was released very badly overall.


I think the problem with HFTD and RTS is that some of the figures (Jazz, Tracks, Terradive) felt like they should've been released in the Generations line. The reason we got HFTD is because retailers asked for an extension of the movie line since that sells hand over fist.
Re: Hasbro Reports 71% Profit Loss in the First Quarter of 2011 (1209310)
Posted by Megatronsdemise666 on April 15th, 2011 @ 1:32am CDT
Megatron Wolf wrote:Maybe the reason is because theres been nothing new out since november and the shelves have been empty since mid january, theres demand but no supply and thats why hasbro is losing money. Oh and dont forget the price gouging that alot of stores are doing $15 for a deluxe and $27 for a voyager is outragious, many people see those prices and just keep walking even if they see the figure they want. If hasbro actually did some leg work this wouldnt be happening, the fans would be happy cause theyd have the toys they want and hasbro would be happy cause they'd be rich little bastards instead of just bastards. Im going to start taking pictures off all the barren isles in teh store around me and send them to hasbro, its not just tf thats not there star wars and gijoe are all gone as well or almost all gone. That hasbros 3 flagship boys merchandise. It pisses me off cause all the figures that i really want are in these last couple of wave that im sure ill never see. Its all bayformers fault if you think about it, and hasbro for making stupid repaint that no one wants or the original is still on the shelves.


im sorry but Micheal Bay actually helped the transformers series a lot more than any Generations or universe toy did. think about it most of you guys liked animated, but where was it compared to the movie? it really got cancelled for it here. it would be stupid of hasbro to just have Generations around. if you people think Generations is doing better then the movie verse then your wrong. where i live all i see is the same stuff, GENERATIONS. i had a trip to cali during march and all i saw over there were Generations. i will admit that hasbro does have to stop making repaints of the movie figures, its just that they are more in demand. the movie fans dont really care or just dont know about Generations. i think hasbro should advertise there toys before DOTM showing. now with the movie toys, yeah its the same general characters, mudflap, skids and believe it or not even prime. at a target i swear they had about 10 leader class battle hooks optimus primes, if anything you should blame hasbro or the stores. i went to a wal mart and i literally saw no transformers in stock and i even asked one of the employees and they said they had not gotten a shipment. i do believe buying Transformers online is better(especially if you want the takara verions)
Re: Hasbro Reports 71% Profit Loss in the First Quarter of 2011 (1209331)
Posted by bvzxa on April 15th, 2011 @ 3:32am CDT
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Agree!!

I dislike the movie. But the hype of the first "real" live action movie boosted the sale of Transformers, heck it brought back the brand. The reason A/C/E did well was it had a show to support it. The Classics/Universe2.o/Generations have a continuation because of the movie.

It became apparent to me when my then manager a staunch G1 collector went out of his way to pick up the 2007 movie toys on the day of release --- this movie is it. Though I now despise Bumblebee as a Camaro, they just seem to sell.

I don't blame the movie for this at all.

I think down the line if they want proper sales then properly distribute each wave.

Every Walmart and Target have the same damn toys. Worse they really stretched the line too close to the movie release. Some people are just now spotting Generations waves with Blurr in them.

For what it is worth, the report of a loss was probably predicted long before this report came out. And they also know they will make their money back once DOTM and it's respective toy line comes out.
Re: Hasbro Reports 71% Profit Loss in the First Quarter of 2011 (1209385)
Posted by Counterpunch on April 15th, 2011 @ 8:56am CDT
amtm wrote:An excerpt from Hasbro's annual report filed earlier this year. Maybe this will provide some insight. (Bolding added by me.)

Revenues from the Company’s top five customers, all retailers, accounted for approximately 50% of its consolidated net revenues in 2010 and 54% and 52% of its consolidated net revenues in 2009 and 2008, respectively. In recent years certain customers in the retail sector have experienced economic difficulty. ...

The Company’s revenue pattern continues to show the second half of the year to be more significant to its overall business for the full year. In 2010, approximately 65% of the Company’s full year net revenues were recognized in the second half of the year. Although the Company expects that this concentration will continue, particularly as more of its business has shifted to larger customers with order patterns concentrated in the second half of the year, this concentration may be less in years where the Company has products related to a major motion picture release that occurs in the first half of the year. In 2010, the Company had products related to the mid-year major motion picture release of IRON MAN 2, while in 2009 the Company had products related to the mid-year major motion picture releases of TRANSFORMERS: REVENGE OF THE FALLEN, G.I. JOE: THE RISE OF COBRA and X-MEN ORIGINS: WOLVERINE. The concentration of sales in the second half of the year increases the risk of (a) underproduction of popular items, (b) overproduction of less popular items, and (c) failure to achieve tight and compressed shipping schedules. The business of the Company is characterized by customer order patterns which vary from year to year largely because of differences in the degree of consumer acceptance of a product line, product availability, marketing strategies, inventory levels, policies of retailers and differences in overall economic conditions. The trend of larger retailers has been to maintain lower inventories throughout the year and purchase a greater percentage of product within or close to the fourth quarter holiday consumer selling season, which includes Christmas.

Quick response inventory management practices being used by retailers result in more orders being placed for immediate delivery and fewer orders being placed well in advance of shipment. Retailers are timing their orders so that they are being filled by suppliers closer to the time of purchase by consumers. To the extent that retailers do not sell as much of their year-end inventory purchases during this holiday selling season as they had anticipated, their demand for additional product earlier in the following fiscal year may be curtailed, thus negatively impacting the Company’s future revenues.



THIS IS SOME IMPORTANT SHIT RIGHT HERE.

If you want to talk about this topic, do NOT TL;DR THIS.
Re: Hasbro Reports 71% Profit Loss in the First Quarter of 2011 (1209566)
Posted by NTESHFT on April 15th, 2011 @ 6:04pm CDT
Seibertron wrote:
headsortails wrote:I have given up on searching retail stores. I only look at Walmart's simply because I go there to get groceries, and I'm not even disappointed anymore. I won't even go to Toys R Us, unless they have an exclusive I want. Everything I get now days comes from BBTS or Robotkingdom.com Hasbro should really start looking at this site more than they do to see what the fans have to say. Tell you what Hasbro- just open a new department of people just to look at all the fan-based sites for your toys and come up with ideas and I'll be the first one to turn in an application...... :KREMZEEK:


I can assure you that they check out this site and are well aware of these distribution problems. Not sure what the problem is on their end, but they're aware of the problem.



Don't get me wromg. I'm not really complaining anymore at this point. I'm still getting my favs- I just miss the excitement of running to the toy aisle to see what's there.


Rated X wrote:Try stopping all these corparate stratagies and just listen to your buyers. If if you really consider kids your primary target, create a damn online survey for kids on your website instead of corny video games.


See, this makes sense. Tell what that's kind of off topic- I love seeing kids with Transformers packages in their hands- whether it's the movie line or Generations. I love seeing the love for these toys continuing to the next generation.

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