Hasbro Pulse Con Reveals for Legacy Evolution with Tarn, Hot Shot, Core Class Dinos, new Junkion System + More!
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It seems like Legacy year 1 is over at wave 3, at least in terms of new characters (there may be repacks or solid case sent to retailers). Any new reveals, including Breakdown are for the year 2 of Legacy which is subtitled Evolution.
First they revealed the Poster for Legacy Year 2 where you can see a lot of the line. It gives us out first look at Armada Prime, which will most probably be the Commander Class figure, along with lots of core class Dinobots and deluxe Junkions, which are this line's gimmick. Aside from some of those and deluxe Bombshell and Crosscut, the rest on the poster did get revealed:
Core class
Slug
Sludge: There will be 6 core class dinobots and they combine into Volcanicus
Soundblaster
Deluxe
Breakdown: comes out in Legacy Evolution but will have first year Legacy box
Scraphook: new junkions that can break apart and combine with other junkions or other characters like weaponizers.
Armada Hot Shot
Needlenoze with 2 targetmasters that transform and combine into a bigger weapon
Voyager
Leo Prime: very realistic animal take, not cartoon-like
Tarn: many 5 mm ports for all sorts of loadout options
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Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on September 30th, 2022 @ 12:50pm CDT
Soundblaster should be a pass for me, I have and love my Takara selects one and FOC one, I am good on the character.
Breakdown still looks good, 1 blaster.
Scraphook looks incredible, he may have just changed my mind on the current Junkion lineup.
Hot Shot looks great! Love it!
Needlenose: about damn time, a bit disappointed in how simple he looks, but still happy he is here.
Lio convoy looks good! I like how this came out, it is neat and I look forward to adding him to the Beasts.
Tarn looks AMAZING. They nailed him. Well done. I am now very torn on keeping my Super7 preorder, since now Nickel is the only real reason to get that set
Posted by Razorbeast88 on September 30th, 2022 @ 12:53pm CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on September 30th, 2022 @ 12:54pm CDT
I'm also down on core class combining dinos.
I would be surprised if Armada prime isn't the commander class.
Posted by william-james88 on September 30th, 2022 @ 12:54pm CDT
Razorbeast88 wrote:So no leader class reveal for legacy evolution then?
Not yet, it's still on. If I see them, I'll update the article. You can watch it live if you want.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on September 30th, 2022 @ 12:54pm CDT
Razorbeast88 wrote:So no leader class reveal for legacy evolution then?
Nope, we will be waiting a bit longer for that
Posted by Razorbeast88 on September 30th, 2022 @ 12:57pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Razorbeast88 wrote:So no leader class reveal for legacy evolution then?
Not yet, it's still on. If I see them, I'll update the article. You can watch it live if you want.
Currently watching, yeah. Just kinda doing all my "live chat" reactions here lol
You put out that article super fast too! Much appreciated because with the speed of the reveals I didn't get as much time to stare and process. Only now am I seeing what was meant in an earlier comment about hot shot having no knee bend
Posted by Solrac333 on September 30th, 2022 @ 1:01pm CDT
Posted by Emerje on September 30th, 2022 @ 1:12pm CDT
Titan Liege Maximo anyone?
Emerje
Posted by Tracytron54321 on September 30th, 2022 @ 1:12pm CDT
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on September 30th, 2022 @ 1:13pm CDT
Transformers Victory Dinoking Gallery
Posted by Tracytron54321 on September 30th, 2022 @ 1:14pm CDT
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Some points about the combining Core Class Dinobots: Slug, a Triceratops and Sludge, a Brontosaurus, form the torso, and the whole will have 6 members. Who else did that? This guy:
Transformers Victory Dinoking Gallery
What are they? I haven't seen them before
Posted by Immortal Starscream on September 30th, 2022 @ 1:19pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Razorbeast88 wrote:So no leader class reveal for legacy evolution then?
Not yet, it's still on. If I see them, I'll update the article. You can watch it live if you want.
if you look in the artwork they kept hinting at as having clues, you will see armada optimus right above the tarn face. looks like that mold is finally coming next year.
Posted by blackeyedprime on September 30th, 2022 @ 1:20pm CDT
As for Tarn, frankly my dear, I dont give a Tarn....but it looks really realllly good so it's a buy.
Lioconvoy is looking really good and despite being more than happy with takara legends i think he will be getting bought.
core dinobots easy pass, at their prices they are close to being potp deluxe prices and the modes look a bit ugly with the odd coloring combo of toy dino mode cartoon bots.
Hotshot looks incomplete in vehicle mode and no jolt, but its a maybe.
Needlenose def buy.
Shattered glass soundwave a buy too even if the ravage can go straight in the bin when it gets left in the box by..erm... accident.
Posted by SpaceEagle on September 30th, 2022 @ 1:21pm CDT
yeah my wallet is going to be drained from this and I can't wait to see more.
Posted by primalxconvoy on September 30th, 2022 @ 1:22pm CDT
Posted by o.supreme on September 30th, 2022 @ 1:22pm CDT
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Some points about the combining Core Class Dinobots: Slug, a Triceratops and Sludge, a Brontosaurus, form the torso, and the whole will have 6 members. Who else did that? This guy:
Transformers Victory Dinoking Gallery
This was my first thought exactly. I really hope this isn't a test for Monstructor/ Dinoking. I know they were small originally, but a proper update each member needs to be at least deluxe class.
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on September 30th, 2022 @ 1:24pm CDT
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Razorbeast88 wrote:So no leader class reveal for legacy evolution then?
Nope, we will be waiting a bit longer for that
Hopefully, since there's no other representation for this series announced....
Posted by Brokebot on September 30th, 2022 @ 1:27pm CDT
Burn wrote:The new look for Menasor is a wonderful change, vastly superior in virtually every way to Combiner Wars Menasor, but people are getting hung up over Breakdown?
eh ... like you said, they look good regardless.
Um, . . . no.
Motormaster, absolutely. Menasor is "cartoon accurate" to some of the laziest, slipshod animation the 80's had to offer. He's no more a combiner than a cheerleading squad climbing on each other's shoulders to make a pyramid. The cars are totally irrelevant and unnecessary to the "combined" form. They're just hangers-on. It barely qualifies as a half-assed attempt. While I do have some issues with CW Menasor, at least he doesn't remind me of some cheap, Chinese bootleg knock-off.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on September 30th, 2022 @ 1:27pm CDT
Tracytron54321 wrote:Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Some points about the combining Core Class Dinobots: Slug, a Triceratops and Sludge, a Brontosaurus, form the torso, and the whole will have 6 members. Who else did that? This guy:
Transformers Victory Dinoking Gallery
What are they? I haven't seen them before
That's Dinoking, a Japan-only redeco of Monstructor:
Transformers G1 1989 Monstructor Gallery
They were released in 1989, well after the cartoon ended in the US.
Monstructor is the combined form of the Pretender Monsters. As per their name, they changed into "monsters" and as Pretenders they had monstrous shells, made of rubbery plastic (that didn't age well). In Japan their shells were replaced with Dinosaur ones, matching the original Dinobots plus a new genus for the sixth member.
The layout for those wondering:
Triceratops & Brontosaurus (Kakuryu & Rairyu): Torso
Pteranodon & Ankylosaurus (Yokuryu & Gairyu): Arms
Tyrannosaurus & Stegosaurus (Goryu & Doryu): Legs
Posted by Emerje on September 30th, 2022 @ 1:27pm CDT
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Some points about the combining Core Class Dinobots: Slug, a Triceratops and Sludge, a Brontosaurus, form the torso, and the whole will have 6 members. Who else did that? This guy:
I caught that in one of my posts. Let's see if they actually follow through this time.
The chat is PISSED that they're still talking about Transformers when the Power Rangers panel was supposed to start over 10 minutes ago.
Emerje
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on September 30th, 2022 @ 1:30pm CDT
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Tracytron54321 wrote:Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Some points about the combining Core Class Dinobots: Slug, a Triceratops and Sludge, a Brontosaurus, form the torso, and the whole will have 6 members. Who else did that? This guy:
Transformers Victory Dinoking Gallery
What are they? I haven't seen them before
That's Dinoking, a Japan-only redeco of Monstructor:
Transformers G1 1989 Monstructor Gallery
They were released in 1989, well after the cartoon ended in the US.
Monstructor is the combined form of the Pretender Monsters. As per their name, they changed into "monsters" and as Pretenders they had monstrous shells, made of rubbery plastic (that didn't age well). In Japan their shells were replaced with Dinosaur ones, matching the original Dinobots plus a new genus for the sixth member.
The layout for those wondering:
Triceratops & Brontosaurus (Kakuryu & Rairyu): Torso
Pteranodon & Ankylosaurus (Yokuryu & Gairyu): Arms
Tyrannosaurus & Stegosaurus (Goryu & Doryu): Legs
It would be really nice if they remembered the latter series combiners. Considering the Legacy line has super jumped from UT to IDW...
Posted by SpaceEagle on September 30th, 2022 @ 1:35pm CDT
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Tracytron54321 wrote:Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Some points about the combining Core Class Dinobots: Slug, a Triceratops and Sludge, a Brontosaurus, form the torso, and the whole will have 6 members. Who else did that? This guy:
Transformers Victory Dinoking Gallery
What are they? I haven't seen them before
That's Dinoking, a Japan-only redeco of Monstructor:
Transformers G1 1989 Monstructor Gallery
They were released in 1989, well after the cartoon ended in the US.
Monstructor is the combined form of the Pretender Monsters. As per their name, they changed into "monsters" and as Pretenders they had monstrous shells, made of rubbery plastic (that didn't age well). In Japan their shells were replaced with Dinosaur ones, matching the original Dinobots plus a new genus for the sixth member.
The layout for those wondering:
Triceratops & Brontosaurus (Kakuryu & Rairyu): Torso
Pteranodon & Ankylosaurus (Yokuryu & Gairyu): Arms
Tyrannosaurus & Stegosaurus (Goryu & Doryu): Legs
Now you've got me excited for an updated Monstructor/Dinoking.
Posted by primalxconvoy on September 30th, 2022 @ 1:38pm CDT
Brokebot wrote:...While I do have some issues with CW Menasor, at least he doesn't remind me of some cheap, Chinese bootleg knock-off.
Hey, us KO fans have high standards, you know!
Posted by Brokebot on September 30th, 2022 @ 1:39pm CDT
SpaceEagle wrote:Now you've got me excited for an updated Monstructor/Dinoking.
That makes two of us.
Posted by Brokebot on September 30th, 2022 @ 1:40pm CDT
primalxconvoy wrote:Brokebot wrote:...While I do have some issues with CW Menasor, at least he doesn't remind me of some cheap, Chinese bootleg knock-off.
Hey, us KO fans have high standards, you know!
Point taken.
Posted by william-james88 on September 30th, 2022 @ 1:40pm CDT
AcademyofDrX wrote:Why do they keep adding fun play features like combination when all we want is toys to transform once and then put on a shelf or stick in a tote
It's an incentive to buy them all. Core Class has now become the main price point for parents and kids I think, so it's one of those "collect them all!" type of thing.
Razorbeast88 wrote:Tarn looking ugly in the poster tbh
That's cause there more to it than just being Tarn's face, as they said in the feed.
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Needlenose: about damn time, a bit disappointed in how simple he looks, but still happy he is here.
Yeah, that's the sacrifice for including 2 targetmasters. Gen Scoop was also very very simple (as were his targetmasters).
ZeroWolf wrote:I would be surprised if Armada prime isn't the commander class.
We'll see. I know Hasbro prefers having prime in the leader class slot since that makes him more visible at retail to kids and parents.
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Razorbeast88 wrote:So no leader class reveal for legacy evolution then?
Nope, we will be waiting a bit longer for that
Hopefully, since there's no other representation for this series announced....
We already know all the leaders being released next year in Legacy Evolution. They are:
Prime Skyquake
Prime Dreadwing
Armada Megs
And repacks of Blitxwing, Laser OP and TM2 Megs.
As for my personal thoughts:
LOVE Tarn. He is everything I wanted. I have not felt this excited about TF toys for a long time. And really happy with Scraphook. Not only is it a new character and new design but it is a new type of transformer/transformation.
For Leo Prime, really like the bot mode but I really don't like that Lion face. I get that they wanted to keep the realistic beast mode bit but:
a) He isn't part of the same collection/set as the other Beast Wars guys, so there's no need for a unified aesthetic
b) Similarly, he isn't based on a CG model which was "trying" to be realistic, he's a 2d hand drawn character
c) There are 2 different lion faces on that show, a robotic one and a cartoony one, and they went with neither
d) As a big fan of Full metal Alchemist, that lion face is giving me flashbacks I would rather NOT HAVE!
Posted by SpaceEagle on September 30th, 2022 @ 1:41pm CDT
Brokebot wrote:Burn wrote:The new look for Menasor is a wonderful change, vastly superior in virtually every way to Combiner Wars Menasor, but people are getting hung up over Breakdown?
eh ... like you said, they look good regardless.
Um, . . . no.
Motormaster, absolutely. Menasor is "cartoon accurate" to some of the laziest, slipshod animation the 80's had to offer. He's no more a combiner than a cheerleading squad climbing on each other's shoulders to make a pyramid. The cars are totally irrelevant and unnecessary to the "combined" form. They're just hangers-on. It barely qualifies as a half-assed attempt. While I do have some issues with CW Menasor, at least he doesn't remind me of some cheap, Chinese bootleg knock-off.
I'll be honest I really, really, really don't like 'toon Menasor as it was born out of a very bad misinterpretation of how the G1 toys combined, but if people like it they like it.
That being said I do believe OP was probably referring to stability, since CW Menasor's hips and waist section weren't the best on top of having no ankle tilts to compensate the large hip ratchet detents. (Not without getting unofficial feet upgrades, unlike Legacy's Menasor that has them from the get go.) As well as CW Menasor having shoulders that would frequently untab if the arm was rotated forward due to the strong ratchets of the limbs.
I still do largely prefer CW Menasor over Legacy Menasor, mainly due to better resembling the G1 toy for the most part and the limb bots actually forming limbs. (The issues mentioned above haven't affected my set that much thankfully ) But, yeah, I can see why OP meant Legacy Menasor is superior over CW Menasor. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, however!
Posted by bluecatcinema on September 30th, 2022 @ 1:52pm CDT
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on September 30th, 2022 @ 1:55pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Hopefully, since there's no other representation for this series announced....
We already know all the leaders being released next year in Legacy Evolution. They are:
Prime Skyquake
Prime Dreadwing
Armada Megs
And repacks of Blitzwing, Laser OP and TM2 Megs.
Posted by Emerje on September 30th, 2022 @ 1:55pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:d) As a big fan of Full metal Alchemist, that lion face is giving me flashbacks I would rather NOT HAVE!
DAMN IT, WILL! DON'T RUIN THIS FOR ME!!
Emerje
Yes I'm kidding if it isn't obvious to everyone.
Posted by primalxconvoy on September 30th, 2022 @ 1:55pm CDT
bluecatcinema wrote:Tons of great stuff there. I especially like Tarn and Leo Prime.
Me too. I can't wait for the Galvo-Leo-Prime and Black Leo Prime repaints too! Slightly "wonky" lion face aside, I'm glad I passed on the MP releases as I'm more excited for the Legacy version.
Posted by SpaceEagle on September 30th, 2022 @ 1:56pm CDT
Emerje wrote:william-james88 wrote:d) As a big fan of Full metal Alchemist, that lion face is giving me flashbacks I would rather NOT HAVE!
DAMN IT, WILL! DON'T RUIN THIS FOR ME!!
Emerje
Yes I'm kidding if it isn't obvious to everyone.
Oh dear, I can see the resemblance now....
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on September 30th, 2022 @ 1:57pm CDT
In regards to the combining Dinobots, I wasn't gonna get any of the Core Dinobots, but knowing they combine has gotten me in on them. Can't help it, I like combining Dinobots
Tarn looks amazing, as does Lio Convoy, though that lion face looks bad.
Based off rumors, I'm going with the titan is the Nemesis with the Decepticon face. Commander should be Armada Prime, especially with the Laser Prime repack serving as the affordable Prime for the line. Maybe we'll see Overload and Jetfire next year?
Posted by Sabrblade on September 30th, 2022 @ 1:57pm CDT
"...Daddy?"SpaceEagle wrote:Emerje wrote:william-james88 wrote:d) As a big fan of Full metal Alchemist, that lion face is giving me flashbacks I would rather NOT HAVE!
DAMN IT, WILL! DON'T RUIN THIS FOR ME!!
Emerje
Yes I'm kidding if it isn't obvious to everyone.
Oh dear, I can see the resemblance now....
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on September 30th, 2022 @ 1:58pm CDT
Sentinel_Primal wrote: as does Lio Convoy, though that lion face looks bad.
Weird that it looks closer to the BW Prowl figure.
Posted by Razorbeast88 on September 30th, 2022 @ 2:00pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Razorbeast88 wrote:Tarn looking ugly in the poster tbh
That's cause there more to it than just being Tarn's face, as they said in the feed.
Saw that later on, yeah. Someone here mentioned combiner and someone else mentioned quintesson, looking more quintesson I think? Quintarnson? Quarnteson? Tarnteson? Interesting. I wonder if face plate will be removable
Posted by Perceptor1996 on September 30th, 2022 @ 2:03pm CDT
Posted by Rodimus Prime on September 30th, 2022 @ 2:03pm CDT
Personally, I'll most likely get Tarn and Needlenose only. I'm not much for core class (not bad, just not my taste) and I've always been of the opinion that jets should always be at least voyager sized. If Needlenose had been voyager, I guarantee you that underside kibble wouldn't be there.
I'm kind of split on Tarn, because he's a good looking piece, but realistically, are we going to get the rest of the DJD? Maybe only if their alt modes are changed to conventional vehicles. Or maybe it they come in Selects. What's the point of having only Tarn and not the rest?
Hotshot doesn't look bad, but I already have the universe figure and that's pretty good. As for Scraphook, I like it. Looks good in both modes and has potential. Energon Landmine, anyone?
Posted by Razorbeast88 on September 30th, 2022 @ 2:03pm CDT
Titan Nemesis tarn? Interestinggg
Posted by Emerje on September 30th, 2022 @ 2:05pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:"...Daddy?"SpaceEagle wrote:Emerje wrote:william-james88 wrote:d) As a big fan of Full metal Alchemist, that lion face is giving me flashbacks I would rather NOT HAVE!
DAMN IT, WILL! DON'T RUIN THIS FOR ME!!
Emerje
Yes I'm kidding if it isn't obvious to everyone.
Oh dear, I can see the resemblance now....
Emerje
Posted by griftimus prime on September 30th, 2022 @ 2:06pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on September 30th, 2022 @ 2:08pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:"...Daddy?"SpaceEagle wrote:Emerje wrote:william-james88 wrote:d) As a big fan of Full metal Alchemist, that lion face is giving me flashbacks I would rather NOT HAVE!
DAMN IT, WILL! DON'T RUIN THIS FOR ME!!
Emerje
Yes I'm kidding if it isn't obvious to everyone.
Oh dear, I can see the resemblance now....
I don't mind if you kid or not Emerje, I sure am not and if anyone wants to join me in my misery/trauma, you're all welcome!
Seriously, still not over it that whole bit with Nina and Alexander, and it's hard to explain. It's a mix of 2 things.
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on September 30th, 2022 @ 2:10pm CDT
Posted by Emerje on September 30th, 2022 @ 2:10pm CDT
griftimus prime wrote:buying everything starting with scraphook. the others are an easy pass.
Emerje
Posted by william-james88 on September 30th, 2022 @ 2:10pm CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote: As for Scraphook, I like it. Looks good in both modes and has potential. Energon Landmine, anyone?
I would have guessed you'd mention another toy from Energon, given your Seibertron name
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on September 30th, 2022 @ 2:12pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote: As for Scraphook, I like it. Looks good in both modes and has potential. Energon Landmine, anyone?
I would have guessed you'd mention another toy from Energon, given your Seibertron name
By the same token, I was thinking of potential Tarn retools/redecos. Armada Demolisher?
Posted by SpaceEagle on September 30th, 2022 @ 2:13pm CDT
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Everyone here who knows nothing of FMA...
I've never watched a single episode of FMA but I learned of what scene is being referred to thanks to all the memes.
Posted by Emerje on September 30th, 2022 @ 2:13pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:I don't mind if you kid or not Emerje, I sure am not and if anyone wants to join me in my misery/trauma, you're all welcome!
I meant I was kidding about being mad at you. Legit the first time an anime got a real emotional reaction out of me. And then they went and did it again in Brotherhood...
Emerje
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on September 30th, 2022 @ 2:14pm CDT
SpaceEagle wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Everyone here who knows nothing of FMA...
I've never watched a single episode of FMA but I learned of what scene is being referred to thanks to all the memes.
The only anime memes I recognise are JoJo ones
Posted by Overcracker on September 30th, 2022 @ 2:17pm CDT
Love the baby Sludge.... might get him.
Do my eyes deceive me? A decent Armada Hot Shot? Would they be willing to give us a Powerlinx repaint?
Might get Needlenose, just to add to my deception Air Force .
Definitely getting Lio Convoy. Looks so good, and interestingly enough is not a retool of Tigatron. So many kitties now.
Scrapbook is really cool looking and a weaponized to boot. May just get him too, he looks like a ton of fun.
Tarn I can skip, no attachment. Though may break down and get him if I have some spare change and he's not too expensive.