Hasbro Masterpiece MP-10 Optimus Prime Found at Canadian Toysrus Stores
Thursday, July 13th, 2017 12:48PM CDT
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Another fun tidbit is that Hasbro keeps the original Takara numbering of MP-10 and while that could have worked with their own reset (with MP-01 being Acid Storm), the previous release in this Hasbo MP line was Bumblebee at MP-08. Might there have been an additional MP release planned between Bumblebee and Optimus, sporting the MP-09 numbering? Feel free to speculate.
If you want a quick refresher on what MP-10 has to offer, please check this recent ad from Hasbro starring Seibertron's own podcasting star XRotorstormX.
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Posted by nycPrime on July 13th, 2017 @ 12:57pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on July 13th, 2017 @ 1:08pm CDT
nycPrime wrote:Kinda wish I waited. I ponied up 160 for the Asia reissue. As we've discussed, the packaging for that is terrible.
yeah it looks designed to be discarded like a Rescue Bot package. I always found that a super odd choice.
Posted by dragons on July 13th, 2017 @ 4:38pm CDT
nycPrime wrote:Kinda wish I waited. I ponied up 160 for the Asia reissue. As we've discussed, the packaging for that is terrible. I wonder if the legs on the reissue tab better in truck mode.
You bought toy for package art no offense but that's waste of money
Posted by ZachimusPrime on July 13th, 2017 @ 4:38pm CDT
Posted by nycPrime on July 13th, 2017 @ 5:12pm CDT
dragons wrote:nycPrime wrote:Kinda wish I waited. I ponied up 160 for the Asia reissue. As we've discussed, the packaging for that is terrible. I wonder if the legs on the reissue tab better in truck mode.
You bought toy for package art no offense but that's waste of money
I'm not entirely sure what you mean. I purchased Asia reissue of MP-10 about 1.5 years ago, and it's my only copy of MP-10. As previously discussed, the packaging for that reissue is terrible. If I had known they would reissue MP-10 in the US, and if I can pay approximately the same price as I did for the reissue (lotta IF's), I would have waited for this reissue. If nothing else, I would get a nicer box. The only boxes I keep are MPs and box sets.
Posted by william-james88 on July 13th, 2017 @ 8:51pm CDT
ZachimusPrime wrote:are there any major differences between this one and the old Hasbro MP-10 that got released?
None. Its Hasbro's intention to have it be the same as possible it seems.
And NYC, the MP boxes are the only ones I keep too. Especially since Takara usually makes them so easily stackable/storeable and compact. Oh and I also keep the Korean Boxes for the Beast Wars Neo toys. Hasve ou seen those? They look so epic I cant get myself to get rid of em. Look up Sonokong Beast Wars Neo and be ready for a seizure.
Posted by ZachimusPrime on July 13th, 2017 @ 9:56pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:ZachimusPrime wrote:are there any major differences between this one and the old Hasbro MP-10 that got released?
None. Its Hasbro's intention to have it be the same as possible it seems.
Thanks
Posted by shajaki on July 15th, 2017 @ 8:49pm CDT
Just because it doesn't reflect YOUR PERSONAL collecting habits doesn't make it a waste.dragons wrote:You bought toy for package art no offense but that's waste of money
Posted by Ironhidensh on July 16th, 2017 @ 11:39am CDT
shajaki wrote:Just because it doesn't reflect YOUR PERSONAL collecting habits doesn't make it a waste.dragons wrote:You bought toy for package art no offense but that's waste of money
For real. I already have a Hasbro MP-10, but I'm probably gonna sell it, and buy this new offering, simply because it has a much better box.
Posted by nycPrime on July 16th, 2017 @ 11:43am CDT
Ironhidensh wrote:shajaki wrote:Just because it doesn't reflect YOUR PERSONAL collecting habits doesn't make it a waste.dragons wrote:You bought toy for package art no offense but that's waste of money
For real. I already have a Hasbro MP-10, but I'm probably gonna sell it, and buy this new offering, simply because it has a much better box.
That's hardcore
Posted by Kurona on July 16th, 2017 @ 11:50am CDT
Posted by william-james88 on July 25th, 2017 @ 2:28pm CDT
Posted by nycPrime on July 25th, 2017 @ 2:33pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on July 25th, 2017 @ 3:43pm CDT
nycPrime wrote:Just to clarify, there's no difference between the one hitting shelves, the original issue, and the one sold at SDCC?
There is no difference between this one and the one sold at SDCC. BUT both of those have that new box, which si different from the original release.
Posted by nycPrime on July 25th, 2017 @ 3:53pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:nycPrime wrote:Just to clarify, there's no difference between the one hitting shelves, the original issue, and the one sold at SDCC?
There is no difference between this one and the one sold at SDCC. BUT both of those have that new box, which si different from the original release.
Looked this up out of curiosity. I still have my reissue box somewhere. I think I need to list it on ebay.
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?siteid=0&pub=5574891718&campid=5336631220&customid=&toolid=10001&mkevt=1&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fitm%2FTransformers-Ma%20...%207675.l2557%3C%2Fa%3E%3F
Posted by Va'al on July 25th, 2017 @ 4:09pm CDT
The surprising fact is that, according to TRU, it's still a little early for the figure to be showing up at physical retail - so good luck, use the Sightings Database and happy hunting!
Posted by Cybertronius Primus on July 25th, 2017 @ 5:15pm CDT
Posted by Mr Skram on July 27th, 2017 @ 6:06pm CDT
Posted by nycPrime on July 27th, 2017 @ 6:09pm CDT
Mr Skram wrote:Grabbed this in MN today. Total impulse buy. I don't follow MP at all so wasn't sure it was significant that he was there. First MP figure
And so it begins lol
Posted by nycPrime on July 28th, 2017 @ 12:43pm CDT
Posted by Deathsaurus1 on July 28th, 2017 @ 3:26pm CDT
Posted by ScottyP on July 30th, 2017 @ 3:43pm CDT
I picked up this figure yesterday afternoon and have taken a great deal of photos of it, along with comparisons to the aforementioned 2012 Hasbro release and Takara Tomy's MP-10 Convoy. While I'm not an expert toy photographer and found some things in the lighting I'd go back and fix if I did this again, I've taken what are hopefully some pretty clean shots (and left them generally untouched) to help fans decide whether to go after this latest release or track down one of the previous releases of the mold on the secondary market.
For comprehensive galleries that have the (much, much nicer!) Seibertron.com gallery treatment for the previous releases, look here for the 2012 Hasbro Masterpiece Optimus Prime and here for the Takara Tomy MP-10 Convoy.
To start with, check out the new release in robot mode.
You may have already noticed some slight differences with the 2012 version, but if not, here's a side by side look:
Left: 2017 Hasbro MP-10, Right: 2012 Hasbro MP Optimus Prime (also yes, I mistransformed the smokestacks. This photo was taken early this morning before coffee, sorry.)
The reds on the releases are almost identical, and under most lighting these will look the same. The application and plan for paint apps is also roughly the same. One thing you may notice on my sample from even this shot and the previous one above is that the passenger side truck window has an opaque finish on it whereas the driver's side one does not. None of the other versions of the toy have this (unless the MP-10A Green BAPE version does, which is the only version of this mold I don't own), and it remains to be seen if this is a consistent design element or a factory mistake on my sample. The other differences you may have noticed are primarily visible from the waist down. With that in mind, enjoy this shot of awkwardly posed toys that helps illustrate these differences a bit closer.
The clear plastic pieces in the waist are noticeably different between these two releases, with the latest 2017 version featuring a bright yellow as opposed to the darker, more amber toned 2012 version. The grays of the thighs are also different, with the latest one being a bit brighter shade. The blues are actually a little different as well, but some other shots later will put this on display more effectively.
Just for completeness' sake, here are the same two pictures except with Takara's MP-10 Convoy as the comparison piece.
Left: 2017 Hasbro MP-10, Right: Takara Tomy MP-10 Convoy (And 'no coffee' is still my excuse for the smokestacks and I'm sticking to it)
While many fans are familiar with the differences between Takara Tomy's release and the Hasbro releases, some newer collectors may not be. As seen above, the shades of color are similar yet completely different on almost every part of the toy. In my opinion, the Takara release remains the nicest, cleanest, and most "special" looking Masterpiece Optimus Prime, the Hasbro versions make some notable changes that are definite improvements. These include the painted eyes that help give Prime some much needed expression, as well as the painted yellow lights on the top of the truck cab.
Again, I'll start out with just some straightforward solo shots of the latest Hasbro MP-10 Optimus Prime.
Straight away, you may notice the driver side window piece not locking into place. Only this side does this, and this is the worst example of the piece not solidly locking into place that I can find among the 9 (10? Something.) versions of this toy in various colors in my house. Hopefully, this is again just something not done well on my particular sample and not a consistent issue with this run of Optimus. Let your fellow Seibertronians know in the comments if you have a quick fix for this problem!
And now, some comparison images.
Left: 2017 Hasbro MP-10, Right: 2012 Hasbro MP Optimus Prime
Left: 2017 Hasbro MP-10, Right: 2012 Hasbro MP Optimus Prime
I put the truck cabs in this odd side by side configuration to help illustrate the subtle difference in blues between the toys. The latest version of Hasbro's MP-10 Optimus Prime is, as speculated, a darker blue - but just barely. This isn't a dramatic difference and may not have been a planned one. In other words, this could just be a happenstance difference in shade caused by a small variance in how much blue polystyrene/etc got put in to the injection molding equipment this time as opposed to that other time. As more collectors get the toy in-hand, we'll have to see if this variation holds true as a rule.
Left: 2017 Hasbro MP-10, Right: 2012 Hasbro MP Optimus Prime
Left: 2017 Hasbro MP-10, Right: 2012 Hasbro MP Optimus Prime
Once again for the purposes of being thorough, here are (roughly) the same shots using Takara's MP-10 Convoy instead.
Left: 2017 Hasbro MP-10, Right: Takara Tomy MP-10 Convoy
Left: 2017 Hasbro MP-10, Right: Takara Tomy MP-10 Convoy
Left: 2017 Hasbro MP-10, Right: Takara Tomy MP-10 Convoy
Left: 2017 Hasbro MP-10, Right: Takara Tomy MP-10 Convoy
Most of the same previously identified differences are also evident here, with the choice of paint for the cab lights sticking out quite evidently in Optimus' vehicle mode. You can also see the slight difference in paint on the rear of the waist with Hasbro's use of red as opposed to Takara's use of blue. Please do not let me know which is more cartoon accurate, I'm good without pics of OP's rear.
Adding the trailer to the cab doesn't make anything jump out as immediately different between the three trailers. Nevertheless, below are images of each version with the trailer attached in alt mode.
While you may have noticed some subtle changes in each (not helped at all by my not-consistent-at-all placement of the cab and trailer in each shot), some more direct comparisons are helpful in distinguishing the trailers of the toys.
Taking the two Hasbro version trailers really only yields one difference, that being in the amount of white paint used in the outlines. There's another difference in the paint which is seen just below, but it was hard to capture on camera.
The latest release uses a gloss paint for the white on the trailer, while the first 2012 Hasbro Masterpiece release sees this in a matte white. Again, this wasn't easy to photograph but the difference is indeed there.
This same gloss coat/dull coat difference holds when looking at the Takara version's trailer, but you may also note the Takara trailer has smaller, and ultimately cleaner, white pin-striping along the side of the trailer's exterior. There's also a minor touch in how the white paint is applied to the Autobot symbol on Convoy to give it just ever-so-slightly a more "large-eyed-G1-faction-symbol" look.
There's not much difference at all between the three trailers when viewed from the back. The paint on the Takara trailer is either a slightly different shade of silver, or on thicker in general. The difference visible here is somewhat due to lighting but is somewhat evident in normal conditions as well.
The latest 2017 Optimus Prime release takes the "CE" and product ID tampographs off of the robot interior (as seen on the 2012 Hasbro release) and moves this to the bottom of the trailer. Outside of that, there's no difference in the part of the trailer you're likely never to look at, and this is a smart place to put this information - or at least it beats a very visible inner-Prowl leg.
One of the most well known differences between the initial Hasbro and Takara releases of MP-10 Optimus Prime was the silver paint present within the trailer of Takara's release that was absent on the 2012 Hasbro release. Fans had wondered if the increased price point of the new version for this year was indicative of this paint being restored. The answer turns out to be "yes!"
While the silver on the inner sides of the trailer is present, you may notice in the first shot of the base mode that it seems the silver paint on the mini-figure seats and inside the battle station is not there. The second picture here confirms this. One out of two isn't bad, but at the $160 asking price it feels like a cut corner. Another difference here to note is the canopy on the repair module/battle station command unit, which is much more transparent on this release. As you'll see below, the other versions of Masterpiece Optimus Prime feature a much smokier look for this canopy.
Here for reference is the initial Hasbro release of the toy, with the bare gray plastic interior of the trailer clearly visible. The new release does give a great improvement to this with the detail of the molding much more evident with a coat of paint to clean it up. The silver also provides the faintest amount of reflection, creating some contrast in the lines not present on bare plastic.
Takara's version is still the clear winner for details on the inside of the trailer (and out, in my opinion.) The extra accents along with the nice silver panels inside create a look that makes it feel special, especially so in the "Repair Bay" mode. All three "Repair Bay" modes are pictured below.
This was always an interesting mode to me, as it's reminiscent of a piloted mech being serviced before takeoff. Of course, given the Diaclone roots of the original Optimus Prime toy, this makes quite a bit of sense. Again, the extra details on the Takara version help this mode to pop, and it's in this mode where the lack of eye paint is actually somewhat beneficial, as it almost gives the look that Convoy is "powered down" while in this bay.
Just as a parting note on this part of the article - there's even paint inside the cockpit on this one! A very nice touch indeed.
The Roller included with the Hasbro release is blue as opposed to the silver of the Takara Convoy. Which Hasbro release am I referring to? Either of them.
The blues are a little different between the two Hasbro versions, with the latest one being just a hint darker. It's not as subtle as the blues of Optimus' legs, but it's not a dramatic difference either.
As seen here, the rifles aren't any different. The spring loaded mechanism on the newest release was a little bit looser, especially when storing it in the trailer, but not the worst sample of all the MP-10 based figures that I've seen. This is likely another case where one example of this latest Hasbro MP-10 won't be the same as others. You'll also notice Spike in there, who is the next topic in this look at these several versions of Optimus Prime.
The mini-figures included with these Masterpiece toys are just awful. Spike was the first, and is still as bad now as he was upon first release. This amorphous, vaguely human shaped blob is also included with the newest Hasbro MP-10 Optimus Prime, and is here to haunt your dreams with his no-face.
His boots are yellower this time, going from a construction site yellow to full on rainstorm preparation rubber boots. Thankfully, he's still easy enough to store in the trailer forever never to return to flop over lifelessly with his expression that has always been lifeless anyhow. Let's move on to more exciting comparisons.
If there's ever been a case of an accessory having variation where I don't think it was ever intended, it's with the different versions of the Matrix of Leadership that come with each of these versions of Masterpiece Optimus Prime. They're pictured just below, with the caption guiding you as to what's what.
The newest one has a nice brass-orange color around it, much darker than the original 2012 Hasbro Masterpiece release, but still different from the Takara Tomy matrix. I find this to be a fun variation, as this accessory is infinitely pretty to look at in almost every color its been cast in. The clear blues are different as well, and I cranked up the exposure a little in this next shot to illustrate it.
No matter which blue you prefer here, I don't think you can go wrong. Blue is blue. The contrast in the latest is nice, with the dark blue going along with the deeper orange. The first Hasbro release has the lightest of the three blue colors, with the Takara version coming somewhere in between them, yet still on the darker side of things. At any rate, it's always nice to see these included, and I hope other upcoming releases such as MP-711 continue to play around with different color schemes for this iconic little accessory.
As expected, this latest release also includes an energy ax accessory. There's not much to say about it, so let's get to the comparisons.
Left: 2017 Hasbro MP-10, Right: 2012 Hasbro MP Optimus Prime
Left: 2017 Hasbro MP-10, Right: Takara Tomy MP-10 Convoy
The ax included with this most recent Hasbro MP-10 Optimus Prime got big somehow, especially compared to the original Hasbro version. That bottom point of the blade looks like it could hurt - were this not made of soft plastic. Hopefully, this is made of some material that will hold up over time if stored within the trailer. It'd be unfortunate if plasticizer migration struck there, as it recently has on poor Revenge of the Fallen Voyager Class Bludgeon.
While transforming each of these into truck mode, I noticed one final odd variation. The newest version of this toy has a blue color to a piece that's not really visible in either mode once transformed. It's the painted diecast piece that sits just behind the truck's grille that is used to clip the torso to the lower body securely in robot mode. Being very hard to photograph in a reasonable way, I went with the only logical choice and made a terrible attempt at a heroic mid-transformation pose to show it.
Do you see it in there? Not a big thing, but it is still one more difference. Hopefully the paint on it holds up well, as I also noticed the red starting to chip away from that part while transforming my 2012 Hasbro Prime.
This newest Hasbro Masterpiece Optimus Prime release is a great opportunity for fans that missed out on this toy for one reason or another before. It takes many of the good elements of the first Hasbro version, adds in a slight bit of the Takara Tomy Convoy's flair with the silver paint, and should satisfy most fans that don't yet own this mold in its originally intended color scheme of red and blue. If you've got the Takara version already, I don't think this is different in enough ways that I can call improvements to warrant a purchase almost as much as that one likely was for you. The Takara Tomy Convoy still feels like the most polished of these toys, even though I'd love to see them put it out with colored eyes like the Hasbro versions have. This is just my opinion, of course, and hopefully with the images above and this accompanying article, you'll now have enough information to decide if it's time to double-dip.
If you have the first Hasbro release, this one's definitely not recommended. It's more expensive and for all practical, not-crazy-person reasons, it's basically the same outside of the inner paint for the trailer. If you're like me though and really only wanted it if there was at least one solid, measurable, distinguishable different characteristic between the two, then have no fear and head on over to your local Toys R Us and grab one while you can, or see if it comes in stock online. Don't forget to use our Sightings Section and local Sightings Forums on the Energon Pub to let your other Seibertronian friends know if you see it out and about!
Posted by Relic0037 on July 30th, 2017 @ 9:32pm CDT
Posted by nycPrime on July 30th, 2017 @ 9:37pm CDT
Posted by Emerje on July 30th, 2017 @ 10:42pm CDT
Just wish they'd release the figure alone the way MP-10B is. I have no use for expensive trailers that take up shelf space.
Emerje
Posted by ScottyP on July 31st, 2017 @ 7:50am CDT
While I understand the sentiment, I'd rather they make the trailers. It's weird to me not having one for the likes of 10B and the Bapes. I guess the ideal thing would be to sell them separately, but my guess is someone ran the math and said it was too risky financially to put out trailers solo.Emerje wrote:Just wish they'd release the figure alone the way MP-10B is. I have no use for expensive trailers that take up shelf space.
Emerje
Posted by Kurona on July 31st, 2017 @ 7:52am CDT
Posted by nycPrime on July 31st, 2017 @ 7:58am CDT
ScottyP wrote:While I understand the sentiment, I'd rather they make the trailers. It's weird to me not having one for the likes of 10B and the Bapes. I guess the ideal thing would be to sell them separately, but my guess is someone ran the math and said it was too risky financially to put out trailers solo.Emerje wrote:Just wish they'd release the figure alone the way MP-10B is. I have no use for expensive trailers that take up shelf space.
Emerje
I think MP-10 should have the trailer. I'm ok with the variants to not have one to bring the price down. I PO'd 10B because I could live with the cost. Not sure if I would've gotten it if it was more expensive cuz of a trailer. Plus I don't want to make space for another trailer.
Posted by Bronzewolf on September 13th, 2017 @ 11:56pm CDT
Does this MP-10 look too similar to his previous releases for your taste? Check out Seibertron.com's guide on the differences between them here to help you decide!
Posted by nycPrime on September 14th, 2017 @ 12:00am CDT
Posted by jamesbenjamin on September 14th, 2017 @ 11:01am CDT
Posted by skywarp-2 on September 14th, 2017 @ 4:58pm CDT
is that the way they are, or is it just perspective from the camera shots??
Posted by shajaki on September 15th, 2017 @ 7:18am CDT
They decided to slightly alter the mold (making him taller and wider by 0.47cm) for this release.skywarp-2 wrote:Am I looking at the comparison shots right?? The side by side of the 2012 Hasbro and even the Takara Tomy make the MP-10 of 2017 somehow look a bit shorter and slightly wider in bot mode..
is that the way they are, or is it just perspective from the camera shots??
Posted by ucfoothill on September 25th, 2017 @ 4:29pm CDT
shajaki wrote:They decided to slightly alter the mold (making him taller and wider by 0.47cm) for this release.
Hello, new collector here. How did you find out this really detailed size info or was this reply tongue-in-cheek?
I also appreciate the super thorough side-by-side photograph comparison/review alongside the 2012 Hasbro and Takara Optimuses.
Is there a place that lists the differences between the Takara original, the Hasbro 2012, the Hasbro Asia 2014, and Hasbro SDCC exclusive, and the Hasbro 2017? Did I leave out any releases? Is there a centralized place where I can find all the comparison info/stats/pictures?
I just want to sponge up as much info as I can before I decide whether to keep/open the two 2017s I picked up case-fresh, from TRU. I am also thinking of trading one of these for the 2012 release because I like the way the box from the older release displays the toy without opening it.
Posted by shajaki on September 26th, 2017 @ 7:18pm CDT
Tongue in cheekucfoothill wrote:Hello, new collector here. How did you find out this really detailed size info or was this reply tongue-in-cheek?shajaki wrote:They decided to slightly alter the mold (making him taller and wider by 0.47cm) for this release.
There isn't any massive pictorial comparisons I'm aware of. And there's so many releases...ucfoothill wrote:Is there a place that lists the differences between the Takara original, the Hasbro 2012, the Hasbro Asia 2014, and Hasbro SDCC exclusive, and the Hasbro 2017? Did I leave out any releases? Is there a centralized place where I can find all the comparison info/stats/pictures?
Takara's MP-10 has had 3 releases, maybe 4 including Asia. Hasbro's window box MP-10 (not actually called "MP-10")was released 1st in TRU, then in Asia and online at BBTS. Then the newest iteration is a TRU exclusive, but was offered at SDCC (and BBTS as SDCC) like they do.
Then maybe just open one, and sell/trade the other for a MISB window box version?ucfoothill wrote:I just want to sponge up as much info as I can before I decide whether to keep/open the two 2017s I picked up case-fresh, from TRU. I am also thinking of trading one of these for the 2012 release because I like the way the box from the older release displays the toy without opening it.
Posted by skywarp-2 on September 26th, 2017 @ 9:35pm CDT
Va'al wrote:Courtesy of fellow Seibertronian dahpadre, we have a first sighting in the US (after Canada) of the Hasbro reissue of Transformers Masterpiece Optimus Prime, with the MP-10 designation and the new reissue box! The image below shows the figure on the shelf in the Toys'R'Us in Joliet, Illinois.
The surprising fact is that, according to TRU, it's still a little early for the figure to be showing up at physical retail - so good luck, use the Sightings Database and happy hunting!
Tho I own the 2012, and still think the colors are a bit different, and I prefer the 2012 from what I've seen, the 2017 is very nice in it's neat box. It sure packs up nicely.. The window box is hard to store because of the slanted sides.. you guys know exactly what I mean!
if it were flat on the side at a 90 degree angle..great! You could store it on it's side..
But NOOOOOooooooo!!
the thing is slanted and you HAVE to store it and the trailer on it's side! Taking up valueable shelf space.. But we deal with it don't we!
You 2017ers.. So Lucky with you're Neat and Tidy little box with a HUGE cool Autobot logo..
Soooooooooo Jealous here!! I may have to get one!! But do I really need two? Arghhhhh!! Sigh, Collecting is such a rough 1st world issue..
Posted by Bronzewolf on October 16th, 2017 @ 12:52am CDT
Dog knocked my brand-*******-new MP-10 off the table and the left smoke stack insert (the slidey part) snapped in half. Does anybody happen to have a junker MP-10 they could spare a stack from? I'd be more than prepared to pay. I'd prefer this release, but I'll take what I can get at this point. Thanks guys.