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D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

RiddlerJ wrote:Is Trypticon going to be part of TR? I'm curious about how they'll do his head.

It's unknown at this point. Depends on how long TR lasts. Rumor has it only 4 waves so Trypticon would be a part of the next line, but I personally hope we get headmasters for more than 4 waves

The whole 4 waves thing wasn't a rumor it was speculation from members on this board. Trypticon will be part of titans return, the poll vote said that the winner would be the second titan class figure of titans return.

steals_your_goats wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

RiddlerJ wrote:Is Trypticon going to be part of TR? I'm curious about how they'll do his head.

It's unknown at this point. Depends on how long TR lasts. Rumor has it only 4 waves so Trypticon would be a part of the next line, but I personally hope we get headmasters for more than 4 waves

The whole 4 waves thing wasn't a rumor it was speculation from members on this board. Trypticon will be part of titans return, the poll vote said that the winner would be the second titan class figure of titans return.

Which means.... Yay for dino-headed titanmaster!!!

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

RiddlerJ wrote:Is Trypticon going to be part of TR? I'm curious about how they'll do his head.

It's unknown at this point. Depends on how long TR lasts. Rumor has it only 4 waves so Trypticon would be a part of the next line, but I personally hope we get headmasters for more than 4 waves

The whole 4 waves thing wasn't a rumor it was speculation from members on this board. Trypticon will be part of titans return, the poll vote said that the winner would be the second titan class figure of titans return.

Which means.... Yay for dino-headed titanmaster!!!

I suspect that Brunt will transform from a tank into Trypticon's dinosaur Head. and that a Full-Tilt titanmaster will be involved somehow. most likely as a head for some nonsense humanoid robot mode.

I really hope that Fulltilt and Brunt are part of the TR Trypticon set as Titanmasters themselves and hell add Wipe out in there too as a repaint of Legends Tailgate/Windcharger that would make the set worth buying for me.


If I had any money for it of course but I'll be trying to get more Titan Returns figures this time then I did for Combiner wars (Only have the two Optimus Prime molds, Mirage, Ironhide, Prowl, Streetwise, Rodimus, Alpha Bravo and Blackjack which yes means I have 8 Autobots vs Blackjack)

I'm also glad for the fans and collecting sakes that Hasbro has all of the original Autobot and Decepticon rebirth Headmasters including Cerebros (no including the Horrocons and Scorponok) being made for this line while also having new spins on old characters.

Yaaaaaawwwwnnnn
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So what are you kids talking about these days? Titans eh? Well allow me to weigh in far too late: I sincerely hope that Sixshot is Leader class, and how do y'all feel about characters being Headmasters that shouldn't be? Personally I'ma just pretend their heads don't transform

shajaki wrote:Yaaaaaawwwwnnnn
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So what are you kids talking about these days? Titans eh? Well allow me to weigh in far too late: I sincerely hope that Sixshot is Leader class, and how do y'all feel about characters being Headmasters that shouldn't be? Personally I'ma just pretend their heads don't transform

Well hello sleepy head, let me catch you up to speed with some thoughts of my own on your questions:

I want Sixshot at bare minimum to be leader, preferable some sort of new class larger than leader though cause he and Overlord deserve to be huge(just not titan sized).

And as for the characters who weren't headmaster now being headmasters, after I got over Galvatron I am good with it. It is fun and it gets us some cool new characters, some who haven't had a toy in decades, and some awesome homages

Things like Galvatron and Blurr being headmasters is weird, but it's easy for me to get over for the play value and just pretending they're not headmasters while displayed. No biggie imo

Kurona wrote:Things like Galvatron and Blurr being headmasters is weird, but it's easy for me to get over for the play value and just pretending they're not headmasters while displayed. No biggie imo

I understand people being upset about Galvatron being a headmaster, but I personally really like Blurr being one, since it makes his head bigger and more to-scale with his body.

SillySpringer wrote:

Kurona wrote:Things like Galvatron and Blurr being headmasters is weird, but it's easy for me to get over for the play value and just pretending they're not headmasters while displayed. No biggie imo

I understand people being upset about Galvatron being a headmaster, but I personally really like Blurr being one, since it makes his head bigger and more to-scale with his body.

Oh no no, it's not the mechanics of it - I think they look wonderful and it adds play value - it's just from a fiction perspective since one of the things about Generations is getting new versions of Generation 1 characters that can be displayed as Generation 1 characters. So at first it's weird, but again, it doesn't really bother me as it's easily ignorable and just adds another thing to play value when you take it off the shelf. The only thing that gets to me is Blurr, Triggerhappy, Scourge and other targetmaster redos won't have their targetmasters; so I hope either a third party or a change to the Titan Master size class can fix that.

Plus Blaster and Soundwave with the dual homage there with the heads is pretty neat

Kurona wrote:Things like Galvatron and Blurr being headmasters is weird, but it's easy for me to get over for the play value and just pretending they're not headmasters while displayed. No biggie imo

Galvatron has never been any type of "master", but Blurr was turned into a Targetmaster at one point. All Head-, Target-, and Powermasters are fair game.

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Plus Blaster and Soundwave with the dual homage there with the heads is pretty neat

So Blaster is Perceptor AND Twincast at the same time?

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Kurona wrote:Things like Galvatron and Blurr being headmasters is weird, but it's easy for me to get over for the play value and just pretending they're not headmasters while displayed. No biggie imo

Galvatron has never been any type of "master", but Blurr was turned into a Targetmaster at one point. All Head-, Target-, and Powermasters are fair game.

Only ones I don't get are Galvatron's head being Megatron. Is it a small Megatron, or a huge Galvatron?

Anyhow, I LOVE Headmasters and the gimmick, so Titans Return is kinda a dream come true for me.

SillySpringer wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Plus Blaster and Soundwave with the dual homage there with the heads is pretty neat

So Blaster is Perceptor AND Twincast at the same time?

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Kurona wrote:Things like Galvatron and Blurr being headmasters is weird, but it's easy for me to get over for the play value and just pretending they're not headmasters while displayed. No biggie imo

Galvatron has never been any type of "master", but Blurr was turned into a Targetmaster at one point. All Head-, Target-, and Powermasters are fair game.

Only ones I don't get are Galvatron's head being Megatron. Is it a small Megatron, or a huge Galvatron?

Anyhow, I LOVE Headmasters and the gimmick, so Titans Return is kinda a dream come true for me.

Don't think the little guys as separate characters, more like fun nods towards the overall lore.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Kurona wrote:Things like Galvatron and Blurr being headmasters is weird, but it's easy for me to get over for the play value and just pretending they're not headmasters while displayed. No biggie imo

Galvatron has never been any type of "master", but Blurr was turned into a Targetmaster at one point. All Head-, Target-, and Powermasters are fair game.

Ehhh... I wouldn't quite say that. Powermasters yeah because like, aside from the whole unlocking transformation thing... there isn't really much of a difference. It's still a smaller guy becoming part of the larger transformer's robot mode to complete said robot mode.
Targetmasters on the other hand are completely different; it's literally just a guy that turns into a gun and isn't needed for the robot mode. Hell you could argue Megatron and Shockwave from G1 are Targetmasters if you like but that's getting off track.
But again... it honestly doesn't bother me.

The only thing that currently concerns me about Titans Return is how the Voyager Optimus is gonna do having both the normal Optimus head and the Star Convoy head. Are both heads goiing to be packed with him together? Will the face be swappable? Will one be included with him and the other sold on its own? How will this work!?

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Plus Blaster and Soundwave with the dual homage there with the heads is pretty neat

So Blaster is Perceptor AND Twincast at the same time?

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Kurona wrote:Things like Galvatron and Blurr being headmasters is weird, but it's easy for me to get over for the play value and just pretending they're not headmasters while displayed. No biggie imo

Galvatron has never been any type of "master", but Blurr was turned into a Targetmaster at one point. All Head-, Target-, and Powermasters are fair game.

Only ones I don't get are Galvatron's head being Megatron. Is it a small Megatron, or a huge Galvatron?

Anyhow, I LOVE Headmasters and the gimmick, so Titans Return is kinda a dream come true for me.

Don't think the little guys as separate characters, more like fun nods towards the overall lore.

Yeah well they ARE coming out with a voyager headmaster Megatron also, so it's only really a joke I guess how Galvatron's headmaster looks like Megatron.

DigitalBrave3 wrote:The only thing that currently concerns me about Titans Return is how the Voyager Optimus is gonna do having both the normal Optimus head and the Star Convoy head. Are both heads goiing to be packed with him together? Will the face be swappable? Will one be included with him and the other sold on its own? How will this work!?

I think the crest thing just folds out; it's one solid piece on it's own that... well, transforms.
I'm personally really glad about it because if we get a Nemesis Prime redeco (which, since it's a laser prime, is damn near certain to become Scourge at one point or another), this means that the transforming head thing will differentiate the two figures more without any actual molding differences.

Kurona wrote:

DigitalBrave3 wrote:The only thing that currently concerns me about Titans Return is how the Voyager Optimus is gonna do having both the normal Optimus head and the Star Convoy head. Are both heads goiing to be packed with him together? Will the face be swappable? Will one be included with him and the other sold on its own? How will this work!?

I think the crest thing just folds out; it's one solid piece on it's own that... well, transforms.
I'm personally really glad about it because if we get a Nemesis Prime redeco (which, since it's a laser prime, is damn near certain to become Scourge at one point or another), this means that the transforming head thing will differentiate the two figures more without any actual molding differences.

No, the Star Convoy head looks a bit blockier than the normal Optimus head. They have to be different molds. The faceplate on the Star Convoy head looks to be a slightly different shape from the normal Optimus head as well.

DigitalBrave3 wrote:The only thing that currently concerns me about Titans Return is how the Voyager Optimus is gonna do having both the normal Optimus head and the Star Convoy head. Are both heads goiing to be packed with him together? Will the face be swappable? Will one be included with him and the other sold on its own? How will this work!?

Only one will get used: making two head designs for the same mold has become run-of-the-mill here. They've fully embraced pretooling! Darkmoon/Infinitus and Stylor/Rev are of the same nature.

DigitalBrave3 wrote:

Kurona wrote:

DigitalBrave3 wrote:The only thing that currently concerns me about Titans Return is how the Voyager Optimus is gonna do having both the normal Optimus head and the Star Convoy head. Are both heads goiing to be packed with him together? Will the face be swappable? Will one be included with him and the other sold on its own? How will this work!?

I think the crest thing just folds out; it's one solid piece on it's own that... well, transforms.
I'm personally really glad about it because if we get a Nemesis Prime redeco (which, since it's a laser prime, is damn near certain to become Scourge at one point or another), this means that the transforming head thing will differentiate the two figures more without any actual molding differences.

No, the Star Convoy head looks a bit blockier than the normal Optimus head. They have to different molds.

Well, it only shows one Titan Master and two heads - and if you look, the legs of the Titan Master are in a different positioning on the Star Convoy head than the normal Optimus head; implying an alternate transformation.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

DigitalBrave3 wrote:The only thing that currently concerns me about Titans Return is how the Voyager Optimus is gonna do having both the normal Optimus head and the Star Convoy head. Are both heads goiing to be packed with him together? Will the face be swappable? Will one be included with him and the other sold on its own? How will this work!?

Only one will get used: making two head designs for the same mold has become run-of-the-mill here. They've fully embraced pretooling! Darkmoon/Infinitus and Stylor/Rev are of the same nature.

If the Star Convoy head is just a pretool face, I'll be kinda upset, because I love the Star Convoy head design so much.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

DigitalBrave3 wrote:The only thing that currently concerns me about Titans Return is how the Voyager Optimus is gonna do having both the normal Optimus head and the Star Convoy head. Are both heads goiing to be packed with him together? Will the face be swappable? Will one be included with him and the other sold on its own? How will this work!?

Only one will get used: making two head designs for the same mold has become run-of-the-mill here. They've fully embraced pretooling! Darkmoon/Infinitus and Stylor/Rev are of the same nature.

That doesn't... quite make sense. None of the other sheets show pre-molded heads, and the two heads are coloured exactly the same - bar an under-the-radar running change, I can't see Hasbro releasing the exact same figure with no deco differences just with a different head.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

DigitalBrave3 wrote:The only thing that currently concerns me about Titans Return is how the Voyager Optimus is gonna do having both the normal Optimus head and the Star Convoy head. Are both heads goiing to be packed with him together? Will the face be swappable? Will one be included with him and the other sold on its own? How will this work!?

Only one will get used: making two head designs for the same mold has become run-of-the-mill here. They've fully embraced pretooling! Darkmoon/Infinitus and Stylor/Rev are of the same nature.

If the Star Convoy head is just a pretool face, I'll be kinda upset, because I love the Star Convoy head design so much.

out of all Transformer toy gimmicks Headmasters were always my favorites they had multiple good story reasons for their existence but most of all for me it reminds me of a human piloting a mecha just like how Diaclone was.

In fact I like Headmasters more then Combiners and I slagging love Combiners.

Deadput wrote:out of all Transformer toy gimmicks Headmasters were always my favorites they had multiple good story reasons for their existence but most of all for me it reminds me of a human piloting a mecha just like how Diaclone was.

In fact I like Headmasters more then Combiners and I slagging love Combiners.

Same here.

I can't wait to have a bunch of headmasters and combiners on the same shelves! I was never too into headmasters but previous(and even current) hang ups haven't kept me from enjoying great figures.

Deadput wrote:out of all Transformer toy gimmicks Headmasters were always my favorites they had multiple good story reasons for their existence but most of all for me it reminds me of a human piloting a mecha just like how Diaclone was.

In fact I like Headmasters more then Combiners and I slagging love Combiners.

Same here, man. Same here. Read my signature if you don't believe me.

Headmasters were awesome, yeah. Those and Targetmasters are second only to Combiners for me - but to be fair, kind of hard to top giant robots becoming an even gianter robot - for my favourite gimmick. And then probably mini-cons after that.

SpikeyTigertron wrote:
I am curious of Generations Brainstorm was a testing-of-the-waters for the gimmick, if not, I kind of wish they'd put him off so we didn't end up with two.

But at the same time I'm glad they put him out when they did. With the current looks of the line, he wouldn't have ended up as IDW as he was, and I love him as a voyager with that look. He is one of the most amazing robot modes I have.

SillySpringer wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Plus Blaster and Soundwave with the dual homage there with the heads is pretty neat

So Blaster is Perceptor AND Twincast at the same time?

Perceptor? What?

I do want a TR Perceptor speaking of which.

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Plus Blaster and Soundwave with the dual homage there with the heads is pretty neat

So Blaster is Perceptor AND Twincast at the same time?

Perceptor? What?

I do want a TR Perceptor speaking of which.

Yeah the head under the helmet for Blaster looks very similar to a familiar microscope Autobot scientist.

SillySpringer wrote:
Yeah the head under the helmet for Blaster looks very similar to a familiar microscope Autobot scientist.

Perceptor Titan returns customs will be made!

I really like that Blaster's shoulder are well painted/sculpted detail, and not a sticker. Like in ye olden tymes.

The only thing I don't like are the smaller Titan Masters who have no larger body like Nightbeat. So he's Nightbeat shrunk down and not Muzzle? How does that work, fiction wise?

Also, it's a little strange that we have characters like Blurr and Scourge as headmasters (titan masters) but not Arcee who was a headmaster in fiction.

RiddlerJ wrote:Also, it's a little strange that we have characters like Blurr and Scourge as headmasters (titan masters) but not Arcee who was a headmaster in fiction.

I believe one is in the works. Don't be surprised if she ends up as a retool of either Chromedome (following the original G1 idea) or Blurr (who's vehicle modes look similar)

DigitalBrave3 wrote:Same here, man. Same here. Read my signature if you don't believe me.

Right on, my friend! Wolves ARE the coolest animals ever!

Back on topic, though, who thinks it would be nice to get a little "add on" for Generations Metroplex? We got Scamper with him, but nothing for Sixgun or Slammer. If Trypticon gets the Titanmaster treatment with Brunt and Full-Tilt, maybe we could get a stand alone figure of Sixgun at Deluxe scale and a little Titanmaster version of Slammer with a transforming tank to ride? The tank could double as a weapon for Sixgun, or somehow integrate into his robot and/or alternate mode. Would be a cool idea for an exclusive through the new "Hasbro run" TFCC. (Hint hint, Hasbro!)

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

RiddlerJ wrote:Also, it's a little strange that we have characters like Blurr and Scourge as headmasters (titan masters) but not Arcee who was a headmaster in fiction.

I believe one is in the works. Don't be surprised if she ends up as a retool of either Chromedome (following the original G1 idea) or Blurr (who's vehicle modes look similar)

Unless it's a retool of Generations Arcee I'm not considering it.

SillySpringer wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

RiddlerJ wrote:Also, it's a little strange that we have characters like Blurr and Scourge as headmasters (titan masters) but not Arcee who was a headmaster in fiction.

I believe one is in the works. Don't be surprised if she ends up as a retool of either Chromedome (following the original G1 idea) or Blurr (who's vehicle modes look similar)

Unless it's a retool of Generations Arcee I'm not considering it.

Why would they retool arcee into arcee? That doesn't even make the slightest amount of sense. Plus that mold wouldn't be able to support a headmaster element.

SillySpringer wrote:
Unless it's a retool of Generations Arcee I'm not considering it.

That makes absolutely no sense but if they ever (They wont) make her the better retool Combiner Wars Sunstreaker into a Titans return Sunstreaker!

steals_your_goats wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

RiddlerJ wrote:Also, it's a little strange that we have characters like Blurr and Scourge as headmasters (titan masters) but not Arcee who was a headmaster in fiction.

I believe one is in the works. Don't be surprised if she ends up as a retool of either Chromedome (following the original G1 idea) or Blurr (who's vehicle modes look similar)

Unless it's a retool of Generations Arcee I'm not considering it.

Why would they retool arcee into arcee? That doesn't even make the slightest amount of sense. Plus that mold wouldn't be able to support a headmaster element.

... because she's arcee...?

Kurona wrote:
... because she's arcee...?

What kind of troll logic is that?

It's not possible anyways there is no way to get the Titan Returns system on a mold like hers.

Deadput wrote:

Kurona wrote:
... because she's arcee...?

What kind of troll logic is that?

It's not possible anyways there is no way to get the Titan Returns system on a mold like hers.

The kind of logic that states the character the mold was made for fits the mold best? It's not unprecedented; Classics Optimus has been repainted a ton of times as Classics Optimus - and Generations Arcee herself was repainted as Arcee. So...

Well... not that I particularly think it would happen, but her alt mode already has seats and they could replace her head joint with whatever hole they use for titanmaster sockets.

Mr Skram wrote:Well... not that I particularly think it would happen, but her alt mode already has seats and they could replace her head joint with whatever hole they use for titanmaster sockets.


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My thoughts exactly.

If they'd do it, I'd prefer a new mold. No need to retool a figure from 2 lines ago. Just a new mold please

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:If they'd do it, I'd prefer a new mold. No need to retool a figure from 2 lines ago. Just a new mold please

I still would probably be happy with the old figure.

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:If they'd do it, I'd prefer a new mold. No need to retool a figure from 2 lines ago. Just a new mold please

Tbh I'd prefer a retool because then it saves a new molding for another character. Generations Arcee is a figure I have and love - well, I hate it, but only because of the takara deco.

SillySpringer wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:If they'd do it, I'd prefer a new mold. No need to retool a figure from 2 lines ago. Just a new mold please

I still would probably be happy with the old figure.

Eh, it could be a bit better. Besides, do we really need to settle for only 1 Arcee figure in 32 years of Transformers? Plus, that one was tail end charlie to the line, so a lot of stores never got her. I only got her cause I found her still at BBTS with chromia in a 2-pack.

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:If they'd do it, I'd prefer a new mold. No need to retool a figure from 2 lines ago. Just a new mold please

I still would probably be happy with the old figure.

Eh, it could be a bit better. Besides, do we really need to settle for only 1 Arcee figure in 32 years of Transformers? Plus, that one was tail end charlie to the line, so a lot of stores never got her. I only got her cause I found her still at BBTS with chromia in a 2-pack.

But what if I get her in the Autobot Heroes set? I like how the old toy looked anyhow.

SillySpringer wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:If they'd do it, I'd prefer a new mold. No need to retool a figure from 2 lines ago. Just a new mold please

I still would probably be happy with the old figure.

Eh, it could be a bit better. Besides, do we really need to settle for only 1 Arcee figure in 32 years of Transformers? Plus, that one was tail end charlie to the line, so a lot of stores never got her. I only got her cause I found her still at BBTS with chromia in a 2-pack.

But what if I get her in the Autobot Heroes set? I like how the old toy looked anyhow.

There is that, It's just going to be somewhere near $200, and your UW Devastator is still gonna be cheaper than that

But I prefer new molds. If a character gets a few different molds, that also means that more people can have that character and also they can choose if one better fits their style