Hasbro Addresses Transformers Prime First Editions
Tuesday, February 7th, 2012 2:41PM CST
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Hasbro wrote:
As we greatly value our TRANSFORMERS fans and consumers, we appreciate the opportunity to clarify and explain the current situation with TRANSFORMERS PRIME First Edition figure availability in the U.S.
We very much apologize for the miscommunication with our great retailers in the U.S. Regrettably, as a result, the TRANSFORMERS PRIME First Edition Wave 2 Deluxe, Wave 1 Voyager and Entertainment Pack figures were posted for pre-sale in error. Final product was not produced for these figures to ship within the U.S. As such, any consumer who placed a pre-sale order with Big Bad Toy Store or Entertainment Earth in the U.S. received a note that their order had been cancelled and these orders will not be fulfilled. While it is common for Hasbro to cancel production and/or shipment of collectible figures prior to being listed for pre-sale, this particular situation was unique. We deeply regret this circumstance and understand your frustration.
We would also like to express that we hear the fan community in the U.S. loud and clear – you want these specific TRANSFORMERS PRIME First Edition figures. While we can’t confirm anything at this time, and the format in which these figures are packaged and distributed may change, the team is looking into ways to make these available at a later date in the U.S. and will keep the fan community and our retailers posted as opportunities develop. We want to make this right, and making these figures available to the U.S. fans is a top priority for the team. We greatly appreciate your understanding and ongoing enthusiasm for the brand and hope in the mean time, you enjoy the TRANSFORMERS PRIME figures that are hitting shelves now and in the coming weeks.
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Posted by DrLegend on February 7th, 2012 @ 2:45pm CST
Wait... That was for FoC Bruticus. This? Well, I'll believe it when I see it.
Like FoC Bruticus.
Posted by Autobot_Benz on February 7th, 2012 @ 2:45pm CST
Posted by BeastProwl on February 7th, 2012 @ 2:46pm CST
Your listening. More availability? A Combiner? Am I Dreaming? Come on guys, pinch me please!
Posted by funeralthirst7 on February 7th, 2012 @ 2:50pm CST
Posted by DISCHARGE on February 7th, 2012 @ 2:52pm CST
funeralthirst7 wrote:What would make them not produce these toys for America?
That was my thought. Kind of strange.
Posted by Omnicron2200 on February 7th, 2012 @ 2:53pm CST
Posted by NicholasPrime on February 7th, 2012 @ 3:03pm CST
So what Hasbro really said was, "WalMart told us to stick our collector friendly toyline up our exhaust pipe, in favor of a more gimicky, kid friendly toyline (Robots in Disguise) that will sell to soccer moms and minivan dads throughout America. And we had to listen because if you want to sell toys in the US you have to blow WalMart's crankshaft pretty hard."
And that is the sad reality of toy retail. All of the other toy outlets don't even come close to Walmart's purchasing power, and it's only made worse in this economy. They will continue to dictate what makes it to production as long as there is no serious competition. And there may never be again. Toys R Us did it for a long time in the late 80's and 90's, until the government stepped in and broke up some of their shadier dealings. Not that that should/could happen in this case, but...
It kills me that larger toy manufacturers only see that bigger picture, and don't work with smaller retailers on some level to produce content and projects through alternative channels. Not putting all their eggs in one basket, as it were. Something more along the lines of DC Direct in partnership with comic/specialty shops. Somehow, the collector market is able to support itself in Japan so much that they get an endless array of repaints, variants, and all around better paint jobs at higher price points. Things like eHobby seemingly flourish.
Why is it that these things sell in foreign markets but not here?
Posted by Xephon0930 on February 7th, 2012 @ 3:08pm CST
Posted by 1111111222233333 on February 7th, 2012 @ 3:12pm CST
Posted by Ominous Prime-Evil on February 7th, 2012 @ 3:13pm CST
Posted by AutobotTrainer on February 7th, 2012 @ 3:19pm CST
Now, you want to color me satisfied? I need dates and locations. Thanks.
Posted by AutobotCliffjumper on February 7th, 2012 @ 3:22pm CST
Edit: Still lame though because I already paid for a FE CJ.
Posted by necr0blivion on February 7th, 2012 @ 3:24pm CST
Hasbro, the United States fans are here, and we are waiting... to buy these 1st edition figures!
Arcee, Bumblebee, and Starscream flew off the shelves at my TRU. Well, both TRUs in my area. I'm sure the rest of these figures would do the same if you keep the volume lower than DOTM volumes. Otherwise, fill those preorders from Entertainment Earth and Big Bad, sell the rest on the HTS site.
Posted by Doubledealer93 on February 7th, 2012 @ 3:24pm CST
Posted by craggy on February 7th, 2012 @ 3:28pm CST
Posted by Rodimus Prime on February 7th, 2012 @ 3:29pm CST
Hasbro wrote:We would also like to express that we hear the fan community in the U.S. loud and clear
That was a good one...
Posted by cannonfodder4000 on February 7th, 2012 @ 3:36pm CST
craggy wrote:I eagerly await news of the FE molds being repainted into g2 colours.
I'd kill a man for a bright purple TFP Megatron, seriously.
Posted by Sideswipe501 on February 7th, 2012 @ 3:39pm CST
Posted by Sideswipe501 on February 7th, 2012 @ 3:39pm CST
Posted by hpfabe on February 7th, 2012 @ 3:40pm CST
Posted by Godzillabot Primal on February 7th, 2012 @ 3:41pm CST
Posted by Pontimax 01 on February 7th, 2012 @ 3:42pm CST
That's if anything were to ever come of it. Which I'm less than sure of.
Ah hell, if they released him again, I'm sure I'd even be willing to spring for 2 Primes.
Posted by GuyIncognito on February 7th, 2012 @ 3:52pm CST
Posted by Counterpunch on February 7th, 2012 @ 3:59pm CST
GuyIncognito wrote:This explanation doesn't quite cut it. It's not a straight answer. Still smells like BS to me.
Agreed.
Posted by necr0blivion on February 7th, 2012 @ 4:00pm CST
Sideswipe501 wrote:Oh, I see how it is Hasbro, you bring back first editions and DOTM toys such as Soundwave havent even hit shelves yet! OK, Oh, and BTW, wer still waiting for mirage and Shockwave..................
I'm sure we'll hear more about the availability of those two soon, to coincide with the release of DOTM Voyager Prime w/Trailer. So, under the "Movie Trilogy" banner...?
Posted by Autobot032 on February 7th, 2012 @ 4:03pm CST
Translation wrote:
Okay, okay, okay. We get it, you think First Edition is the bomb and that Robots In Disguise sucks. WE GET IT! ALRIGHT? GAWDSAKES!
Look, we didn't make these for you because we were just screwin' around and love blowing our money and your's. Could we make it right? Sure. Will we? Probably not. However, to make you happy, we'll give a BIG load of bull, we'll smooth your ruffled feathers, for now. We'll keep you at bay for the time being until you finally calm down and say "screw it, you win Hasbro"
We will take your money, we will smile while doing it and we will throw you what bones we feel like giving.
Look, you got some awesome stuff. You're not going to get all of it. This is how life is. Can't deal with it? Tough.
Remember, we take cash, credit or debit! Hell, give us your wallets! Thanks!
Posted by StryderPrime on February 7th, 2012 @ 4:04pm CST
Hasbro is known to repaint a figure 4 million times right?
All they had to do was to release the FE figure as wave 1 and any figures after that, (Axe Club CJ, B.M.F Gun Arcee, Back Heavy Voyager Prime) as repaints.
Easy Fix.
I cant believe they are letting the rest of the world sell us figure for 4 times amount of it and letting them profit off of them even tho that could have been money in the company pockets instead.
Posted by Va'al on February 7th, 2012 @ 4:07pm CST
Could they be on the road to redemption?
Posted by kirbenvost on February 7th, 2012 @ 4:18pm CST
Posted by Requiem Prime on February 7th, 2012 @ 4:24pm CST
Upon consideration: The very fact Hasbro is making a statement and acknowledging that this was not seen in the best light is novel. I've often stated that the stronger the fandom, the more it's like an abusive relationship because they don't have to care about you; you're dollars are a given. Even if it took every american transfan to jump up and shout "WTF Hasbro!", the fact they did notice and made a response with the intent (I'll believe when I see it) to make good is huge.
Posted by Pontimax 01 on February 7th, 2012 @ 4:24pm CST
Posted by timcourtois on February 7th, 2012 @ 4:25pm CST
It does seem clear that the new molds (Cliffjumper, Bumblebee) are geared towards being easier to transform.
Not saying Hasbro handled the whole thing well. Just saying I can understand that they may be stuck between a rock and a hard place here.
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on February 7th, 2012 @ 4:29pm CST
Posted by 1111111222233333 on February 7th, 2012 @ 4:36pm CST
Posted by Megatron Wolf on February 7th, 2012 @ 4:42pm CST
Posted by 1111111222233333 on February 7th, 2012 @ 4:48pm CST
we all know what this means kiddies, they're never coming back. That was almost word for word what they said back when we bitched about RTS & the last wave of PCCs never being released. Only thing you can hope for is that they use the mold you want in a half assed repaint like they did with wreckgar. Its been over a year now and still no re-release of the RTS guys we all wanted.
Agreed. They have literally told us nothing. Import them or forget them, those are really your only two options.
I chose to import them because I really love these figures. Are we supposed to just hold out and risk the very high possibility of never seeing them? With that said, I have already dished out way more than I was planning to for these figures. Damage done Hasbro, a corporate "maybe" is not helping anyone.
Posted by Stumpybot on February 7th, 2012 @ 4:50pm CST
StryderPrime wrote:I cant believe they are letting the rest of the world sell us figure for 4 times amount of it and letting them profit off of them even tho that could have been money in the company pockets instead.
Yeah, its not like the Americans and most of the planet have been doing the same thing to each other, the UK and pretty much anybody with a pulse for the last decade. oh wait..... *checks ebay*, yup its definitely not just the 'rest of the world' doing it with transformers figures, its everybody. And im pretty sure thats not a new thing
I'll admit i bought a spare voyager rid megatron and ebayed him. it offset the cost of travelling around trying to find the figures, and i now have all the RID line. Am i a scalper? i guess i am if some dumbass is willing to keep bidding on a £25 toy instead of being patient. Sold mine for £45, bet he's kicking himself now. If scalpers are that bad, heres an idea for everybody, wait. because if hasbro are releasing statements to news sites then its obvious they know theyre missing a chance to make money, theyre obviously paying attention. They arent the devil, theyre a company that knows we exist and does try to cater for us (the vocal minority). If we want them, they may find a way to make more, or BETTER figures. and when that happens, the scalpers will end up getting screwed, which is always a good thing. it just wont happen overnight.
Once again (as stated SO many times before) US and Canada at least got a patchy release (blame the retailer there!), the UK got jacksh*t. I had to go to an online retailer and im pleased to say i have all the FE figures and i paid precisely retail value for them. They were up for preorder on all the major sites, and quite honestly im wondering how the more vocal section of the fandom seems to have utterly missed the boat on that??? Ive heard on various TF podcasts where people say how they drove an hour or more just to visit a store that sells TF'S and quite honestly i find that insane, if youre gonna waste petrol to go find stores outside your town, just buy the thing on ebay and calm yourself down, you dont even have to leave your house to do it
Posted by Heavy B on February 7th, 2012 @ 4:51pm CST
Posted by StryderPrime on February 7th, 2012 @ 4:59pm CST
Stumpybot wrote:StryderPrime wrote:I cant believe they are letting the rest of the world sell us figure for 4 times amount of it and letting them profit off of them even tho that could have been money in the company pockets instead.
Yeah, its not like the Americans and most of the planet have been doing the same thing to each other, the UK and pretty much anybody with a pulse for the last decade. oh wait..... *checks ebay*, yup its definitely not just the 'rest of the world' doing it with transformers figures, its everybody. And im pretty sure thats not a new thing
I'll admit i bought a spare voyager rid megatron and ebayed him. it offset the cost of travelling around trying to find the figures, and i now have all the RID line. Am i a scalper? i guess i am if some dumbass is willing to keep bidding on a £25 toy instead of being patient. Sold mine for £45, bet he's kicking himself now. If scalpers are that bad, heres an idea for everybody, wait. because if hasbro are releasing statements to news sites then its obvious they know theyre missing a chance to make money, theyre obviously paying attention. They arent the devil, theyre a company that knows we exist and does try to cater for us (the vocal minority). If we want them, they may find a way to make more, or BETTER figures. and when that happens, the scalpers will end up getting screwed, which is always a good thing. it just wont happen overnight.
Once again (as stated SO many times before) US and Canada at least got a patchy release (blame the retailer there!), the UK got jacksh*t. I had to go to an online retailer and im pleased to say i have all the FE figures and i paid precisely retail value for them. They were up for preorder on all the major sites, and quite honestly im wondering how the more vocal section of the fandom seems to have utterly missed the boat on that??? Ive heard on various TF podcasts where people say how they drove an hour or more just to visit a store that sells TF'S and quite honestly i find that insane, if youre gonna waste petrol to go find stores outside your town, just buy the thing on ebay and calm yourself down, you dont even have to leave your house to do it
I understand ya pain now since this is one of the few times since the early 90's where hasbro gave us americans the shaft like this compared to other countries.I dont understand from a business point why Hasbro just didnt make the FE figures wave 1 and the other version we getting in R.I.D as repaints instead since they famous for repainted figures anyway.
Its a waste of money to me to make the mold for FE and dont plan on making that many figures
Posted by Stumpybot on February 7th, 2012 @ 5:04pm CST
Posted by BATTOUSAIXD on February 7th, 2012 @ 5:56pm CST
Posted by Sodan-1 on February 7th, 2012 @ 6:04pm CST
Va'al wrote:Hm. It is "nice" of Hasbro to reply to fandom is some way, even if they don't really care or plan to do anything about it.
Could they be on the road to redemption?
Those would be my sentiments as well.
Posted by Tyrannotaur on February 7th, 2012 @ 6:09pm CST
I'd also love to know what Hasbro is doing with DOTM wave 6 and HA Soundwave here in America. I'm not paying $80 or more for a HA Soundwave. Please don't make him another Mudflap Hasbro..please..
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on February 7th, 2012 @ 6:12pm CST
Tyrannotaur wrote:Great that Hasbro responded on this issue. I don't see why they can't just sell all the FEs on HTS. Makes sense to me. I guess they want to make sure the more "kid friendly" RID line sells with collectors. Don't get me wrong, some of the RID figures look awesome.
I'd also love to know what Hasbro is doing with DOTM wave 6 and HA Soundwave here in America. I'm not paying $80 or more for a HA Soundwave. Please don't make him another Mudflap Hasbro..please..
HTS is a separate entity onto its self and has no connection to Hasbro outside of selling their toys exclusively.
Posted by Sabrblade on February 7th, 2012 @ 6:38pm CST
And where might those be.
Posted by Stumpybot on February 7th, 2012 @ 7:07pm CST
imagine takara style shiney paint and ultra high quality paint apps, limited edition, numbered sets, all the core cast and a few RID figures (Ratchet, Wheeljack, Soundwave) done in a special collectors series. Appeal to the collectors and make it clear what their intent is from the DAY its announced. No distribution bullcrap, no whining about other countries getting the figures first... or at all, just start with a strict plan and give the fans something special that leaves no area for ambiguity (and no sympathy for everybody that misses the boat)
id buy each and every one of them all over again in a heartbeat
will never happen but its good to dream
Posted by Counterpunch on February 7th, 2012 @ 7:20pm CST
However, I will be purchasing Takara products when and where ever possible before buying Hasbro versions of this line. Sorry. It's worth paying for more paint apps and zero hassle collecting.
Posted by --B-- on February 7th, 2012 @ 7:51pm CST
Posted by Sabrblade on February 7th, 2012 @ 8:02pm CST
Posted by Erailea on February 7th, 2012 @ 8:10pm CST
Funny that you posted that Bee-ship one. I just saw it in a Japanese toy store the other day. Obviously not Hasbro though.